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** Alice is extremely ''high-class'' and everyone only stays quiet ''in public.'' Actually confronting her would mean severe [[ScrewTheRulesIMakeThem retaliation from her]] or [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveConnections her family.]] Alternately, [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveMoney she's constantly seen paying her servants to keep quiet.]]
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** Alice is extremely ''high-class'' and everyone only stays quiet ''in public.'' Actually her reputation is the ElephantInTheLivingRoom. While people are seen [[GossipyHens gossiping about it]] behind her back, actually confronting her would mean severe [[ScrewTheRulesIMakeThem retaliation from her]] either herself]] or [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveConnections her family.]] Alternately, [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveMoney she's constantly seen paying her servants to keep quiet.]]
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* '''Conversed''': ???"Isn't it a bit unrealistic that she doesn't face any consequences for sleeping around before marriage? Doesn't the movie take place in, like, the Middle Ages?"
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* '''Exaggerated''': Alice openly carries on a relationship with [[LesYay another woman,]] and no one blinks.
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* '''Exaggerated''': Alice openly carries on a lesbian relationship with [[LesYay another woman,]] Christine and no one blinks.
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** In a story that takes place TwentyMinutesIntoTheFuture, in the BigApplesauce, Alice is facing the possibility of execution [[DisproportionateRetribution for having engaged in premarital sex]].
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** In a story that takes place TwentyMinutesIntoTheFuture, in the BigApplesauce, ''A Story from America TwentyMinutesIntoTheFuture'', Alice is facing the possibility of execution [[DisproportionateRetribution execution for having engaged in premarital sex]].
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** The story begins with a depiction of Alice and her wife Christine participating in normal society. However, this was just a DreamSequence from Alice, and the Alice. The story then shows how she and Christine must hide keep their relationship from everyone hidden for fear of ostracism or worse.
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* '''Lampshaded''': When Alice marries another woman the couple has Christine, they have their wedding in a Church and it's officiated by a Bishop. The narrator ends the scene by stating "this is so historically accurate!"
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** This part of the past really did lack sexual qualms.
** This part of the past really did lack sexual qualms.
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** The culture ''talks'' a lot about staying "pure" and religious, but it's mostly lip-service and [[{{Hypocrisy}} everyone just does what they want outside of the actual church.]]
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** Thispart of the past particular time and place in history really did lack sexual qualms.have such attitudes about sex.
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** Alice is a prostitute, that being the only way she can earn a living after having been divorced.
** AliceAndBob have a ShotgunWedding, and Bob makes restitution for the bride price Alice's father would have received if Alice was married off as a virgin.
** Alice is a prostitute, that being the only way she can earn a living after having been divorced.
** AliceAndBob have a ShotgunWedding, and Bob makes restitution for the bride price Alice's father would have received if Alice was married off as a virgin.
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** But soon enough, they forget about it, and the issue is rarely, if ever, mentioned again.
** Alice has an abortion or a ConvenientMiscarriage, or simply has a ShotgunWedding, and life goes on.
** Or, Alice is able to win back the respect of the community somehow.
** Alice brings back the culture of sexual freedom to her time, and no one protests.
** But she is a HighClassCallGirl, and widely respected.
** Alice uses this as a way to be able to pick and choose her marriage partner, in a setting where ArrangedMarriage is the norm.
* '''Parodied''': In ''A Story from the MiddleAges'', Alice is chosen as the first pansexual popess, and celebrates with a ten-day orgy. No one even bats an eye to this.
** Alice has an abortion or a ConvenientMiscarriage, or simply has a ShotgunWedding, and life goes on.
** Or, Alice is able to win back the respect of the community somehow.
** Alice brings back the culture of sexual freedom to her time, and no one protests.
** But she is a HighClassCallGirl, and widely respected.
** Alice uses this as a way to be able to pick and choose her marriage partner, in a setting where ArrangedMarriage is the norm.
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** But she is a HighClassCallGirl, and widely respected.
** Alice uses this as a way to be able to pick and choose her marriage partner, in a setting
* '''Parodied''': In ''A Story from the
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* '''Exploited''': Alice becomes TheMistress to KingBobTheNth, King Robert, and increases her status in society.
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** In this setting, [[FantasyContraception some kind of reliable birth control]] exists, even if it did not exist in RealLife. Therefore, Alice does not have to worry about getting pregnant. (And either there's STDImmunity, or some way of preventing {{=STI=}}s other than abstinence or monogamy, so Alice doesn't have to worry about that, either.)
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** In this setting, [[FantasyContraception some kind of reliable birth control]] exists, even if it did not exist in RealLife. Therefore, Alice does not have to worry about getting pregnant. (And either there's STDImmunity, or some way of preventing {{=STI=}}s [=STI=]s other than abstinence or monogamy, so Alice doesn't have to worry about that, either.)
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** The culture does not worry too much about [[MamasBabyPapasMaybe whose children are whose]]; every man who could even ''potentially'' be a father takes responsibility for the kids, and inheritance is through the mother's lineage, not the father's.
*** Or, perhaps marriage as we know it doesn't exist, and couples go their separate ways after doing the deed.
*** Or, maybe there's a way to find out exactly who a given child's father is.
** In this setting, [[FantasyContraception some kind of reliable birth control]] exists, even if it did not exist in RealLife. Therefore, Alice does not have to worry about getting pregnant. (And either there's STDImmunity, or some way of preventing {{=STI=}}s other than abstinence or monogamy, so Alice doesn't have to worry about that, either.)
*** Or, perhaps marriage as we know it doesn't exist, and couples go their separate ways after doing the deed.
*** Or, maybe there's a way to find out exactly who a given child's father is.
** In this setting, [[FantasyContraception some kind of reliable birth control]] exists, even if it did not exist in RealLife. Therefore, Alice does not have to worry about getting pregnant. (And either there's STDImmunity, or some way of preventing {{=STI=}}s other than abstinence or monogamy, so Alice doesn't have to worry about that, either.)
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** Alice is extremely ''high-class'' and everyone only stays quiet ''in public.'' Actually confronting her would mean severe [[ScrewTheRulesIMakeThem retaliation from her]] or [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveConnections her family.]] Alternately, [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveMoney she's constantly seen paying her servants to keep quiet.]]
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** Alternately, Alice is extremely ''high-class'' and everyone only stays quiet ''in public.'' Actually confronting her would mean severe [[ScrewTheRulesIMakeThem retaliation from her]] or [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveConnections her family.]]
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** Alternately, Alice is extremely ''high-class'' and everyone only stays quiet ''in public.'' Actually confronting her would mean severe [[ScrewTheRulesIMakeThem retaliation from her]] or [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveConnections her family.]]]] Alternately, [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveMoney she's constantly paying her servants to keep quiet.]]
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* '''Deconstructed''': Sure, there may be more sexual freedom in this portrayal of the Middle Ages, but they still lack the effective contraceptives and STI treatments of the modern day.
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* '''Justified''': Alice is lower-class, and [[BeneathNotice nobody cares about some random farmer/townswoman as long as she does her job.]]
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* '''Justified''': '''Justified''':
** Alice is lower-class, and [[BeneathNotice nobody cares about some random farmer/townswoman as long as she does her job.]]
** Alice is lower-class, and [[BeneathNotice nobody cares about some random farmer/townswoman as long as she does her job.]]
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* '''Lampshaded''': ???When Alice marries another woman the couple has their wedding in a Church and it's officiated by a Bishop. The narrator ends the scene by stating "this is so historically accurate!"
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* '''Discussed''': ???"You know Alice, when you traveled back in time I thought for sure you'd get arrested by the inquisition or thrown in prison. But it seems like nobody minds."
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* '''Justified''': Alice is lower-class, and [[BeneathNotice nobody cares too much about some random farmer/townswoman as long as she does her job.]]
** Alternately, Alice is extremely ''high-ranking'' and it's clear that everyone only stays quiet about it ''in public.'' Actually confronting her would mean severe [[ScrewTheRulesIMakeThem retaliation from her]] or [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveConnections her family.]]
** Alternately, Alice is extremely ''high-ranking'' and it's clear that everyone only stays quiet about it ''in public.'' Actually confronting her would mean severe [[ScrewTheRulesIMakeThem retaliation from her]] or [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveConnections her family.]]
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* '''Justified''': Alice is lower-class, and [[BeneathNotice nobody cares too much about some random farmer/townswoman as long as she does her job.]]
** Alternately, Alice is extremely''high-ranking'' ''high-class'' and it's clear that everyone only stays quiet about it ''in public.'' Actually confronting her would mean severe [[ScrewTheRulesIMakeThem retaliation from her]] or [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveConnections her family.]]
** Alternately, Alice is extremely
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** This part of the past really did lack sexual qualms.
** The culture had a sexual BlueAndOrangeMorality compared to today.
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* '''Invoked''':???The Libertine Towns were founded by malcontents and exiles from more sexually repressive neighbors.
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* '''Exaggerated''': Alice openly carries on a relationship with [[LesYay another woman, woman,]] and no one blinks.
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** Alice brings back the culture of sexual freedom to her time, and no one protests.
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** Alternately, Alice is extremely high-ranking ''high-ranking'' and it's clear that everyone only stays quiet about it ''in public.'' Saying disapproving remarks to Actually confronting her face would mean severe [[ScrewTheRulesIMakeThem retaliation from her]] or [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveConnections her family.]]
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** Alternately, Alice is extremely ''high-ranking'' and knows that nobody can publicly disapprove of her without severe [[ScrewTheRulesIMakeThem retaliation from her]] or [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveConnections her family.]]
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** Alternately, Alice is extremely ''high-ranking'' high-ranking and knows it's clear that nobody can publicly disapprove of everyone only stays quiet about it ''in public.'' Saying disapproving remarks to her without face would mean severe [[ScrewTheRulesIMakeThem retaliation from her]] or [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveConnections her family.]]
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** Alternately, Alice is extremely ''high-ranking'' and knows that nobody can publicly disapprove of her without severe [[ScrewTheRulesIMakeThem retaliation from her]] or [[ScrewTheRulesIMakeThem her family.]]
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** Alternately, Alice is extremely ''high-ranking'' and knows that nobody can publicly disapprove of her without severe [[ScrewTheRulesIMakeThem retaliation from her]] or [[ScrewTheRulesIMakeThem [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveConnections her family.]]
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** Alternately, Alice is extremely ''high-ranking'' and knows that nobody can disapprove of her (publicly, at least) without severe retaliation from her or her family.
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** Alternately, Alice is extremely ''high-ranking'' and knows that nobody can publicly disapprove of her (publicly, at least) without severe [[ScrewTheRulesIMakeThem retaliation from her her]] or [[ScrewTheRulesIMakeThem her family.]]
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** The culture talks a big game about keeping oneself "pure" and being religious, but [[{{Hypocrisy}} they just do what they want anyway.]]
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** The culture talks ''talks'' a big game lot about keeping oneself staying "pure" and being religious, but it's mostly lip-service and [[{{Hypocrisy}} they everyone just do does what they want anyway.outside of the actual church.]]
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* '''Justified''': It's because she's lower-class, and [[BeneathNotice nobody cares too much about some random farmer/townswoman as long as she does her job.]]
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* '''Justified''': It's because she's Alice is lower-class, and [[BeneathNotice nobody cares too much about some random farmer/townswoman as long as she does her job.]]
** Alternately, Alice is extremely ''high-ranking'' and knows that nobody can disapprove of her (publicly, at least) without severe retaliation from her or her family.
** The culture talks a big game about keeping oneself "pure" and being religious, but [[{{Hypocrisy}} they just do what they want anyway.]]
** Alternately, Alice is extremely ''high-ranking'' and knows that nobody can disapprove of her (publicly, at least) without severe retaliation from her or her family.
** The culture talks a big game about keeping oneself "pure" and being religious, but [[{{Hypocrisy}} they just do what they want anyway.]]
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* '''Justified''': ???It's because she's lower-class, and [[BeneathNotice nobody cares too much about some random farmer/townswoman as long as she does her job.]]
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* '''Downplayed''': Alice's marriage to Bob consists of her moving into his home. (i.e. what we today would call "cohabitation," or perhaps "common-law marriage.")
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* '''Downplayed''': Alice's marriage to Bob consists of her moving into his home.home, with little to no [[WeddingAndEngagementTropes pomp and circumstance]]. (i.e. what we today would call "cohabitation," or perhaps "common-law marriage.")
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* '''Downplayed''': Alice's marriage to Bob consists of her moving into his home. (i.e. what we today would call "cohabitation," or perhaps "common-law marriage.")
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** Alice lives in the year 3000, and it's a FreeLoveFuture.
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* '''Parodied''': ???In ''A Story from the MiddleAges'', Alice is chosen as the first pansexual popess, and celebrates with a ten-day orgy. No one even bats an eye to this.
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* '''Inverted''': In a story that takes place TwentyMinutesIntoTheFuture, in the BigApplesauce, Alice is facing the possibility of execution [[DisproportionateRetribution for having engaged in premarital sex]].
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* '''Inverted''': '''Inverted''':
** In a story that takes place TwentyMinutesIntoTheFuture, in the BigApplesauce, Alice is facing the possibility of execution [[DisproportionateRetribution for having engaged in premarital sex]].
** In a story that takes place TwentyMinutesIntoTheFuture, in the BigApplesauce, Alice is facing the possibility of execution [[DisproportionateRetribution for having engaged in premarital sex]].
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* '''Subverted''': Alice becomes pregnant as a result of her having had sex outside of marriage, and her community begins to scorn her.
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** Alice becomes pregnant as a result of her having had sex outside of marriage, and her community begins to scorn her.
** Alice becomes pregnant as a result of her having had sex outside of marriage, and her community begins to scorn her.
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* '''Double Subverted''': But soon enough, they forget about it, and the issue is rarely, if ever, mentioned again.
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** But soon enough, they forget about it, and the issue is rarely, if ever, mentioned again.
** But soon enough, they forget about it, and the issue is rarely, if ever, mentioned again.
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* '''Basic Trope''': A work set in the past, or in a very conservative present-day culture, has very liberal attitudes towards sex and sexuality.
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** Alice has an abortion or a ConvenientMiscarriage, or simply has a ShotgunWedding, and life goes on.
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*'''Basic Trope''': A work set in the past, or in a very conservative present-day culture, has very liberal attitudes towards sex and sexuality.
*'''Straight''': In ''A Story from the MiddleAges'', Alice [[ReallyGetsAround has sex with several different men]], and faces no scorn from other characters for doing so. In RealLife, SlutShaming would have been the ''least'' of her worries.
*'''Exaggerated''': Alice carries on a relationship with another woman, and no one blinks.
*'''Downplayed''': Alice's marriage to Bob consists of her moving into his home.
*'''Justified''': ???
*'''Inverted''': In a story that takes place TwentyMinutesIntoTheFuture, in the BigApplesauce, Alice is facing the possibility of execution [[DisproportionateRetribution for having engaged in premarital sex]].
** In ''A Story from the MiddleAges'', Alice is facing the possibility of execution for having engaged in premarital sex.
*'''Subverted''': Alice becomes pregnant as a result of her having had sex outside of marriage, and her community begins to scorn her.
** Alice, a FishOutOfTemporalWater, visits a very sexually-liberated time and/or place, such as TheSeventies.
** Alice is a prostitute, that being the only way she can earn a living after having been divorced.
*'''Double Subverted''': But soon enough, they forget about it, and the issue is rarely, if ever, mentioned again.
** Or, Alice is able to win back the respect of the community somehow.
** But she is a HighClassCallGirl, and widely respected.
*'''Parodied''': ???
*'''Zig Zagged''': Different cultures in the setting have different sexual mores.
*'''Averted''': ShownTheirWork
*'''Enforced''': PoliticallyCorrectHistory
*'''Lampshaded''': ???
*'''Invoked''': ???
*'''Exploited''': Alice becomes TheMistress to KingBobTheNth, and increases her status in society.
*'''Defied''': When word gets out that Alice has been sleeping around, her village (or [[HonorRelatedAbuse her family]]) has her burned at the stake.
*'''Discussed''': ???
*'''Conversed''': ???
*'''Straight''': In ''A Story from the MiddleAges'', Alice [[ReallyGetsAround has sex with several different men]], and faces no scorn from other characters for doing so. In RealLife, SlutShaming would have been the ''least'' of her worries.
*'''Exaggerated''': Alice carries on a relationship with another woman, and no one blinks.
*'''Downplayed''': Alice's marriage to Bob consists of her moving into his home.
*'''Justified''': ???
*'''Inverted''': In a story that takes place TwentyMinutesIntoTheFuture, in the BigApplesauce, Alice is facing the possibility of execution [[DisproportionateRetribution for having engaged in premarital sex]].
** In ''A Story from the MiddleAges'', Alice is facing the possibility of execution for having engaged in premarital sex.
*'''Subverted''': Alice becomes pregnant as a result of her having had sex outside of marriage, and her community begins to scorn her.
** Alice, a FishOutOfTemporalWater, visits a very sexually-liberated time and/or place, such as TheSeventies.
** Alice is a prostitute, that being the only way she can earn a living after having been divorced.
*'''Double Subverted''': But soon enough, they forget about it, and the issue is rarely, if ever, mentioned again.
** Or, Alice is able to win back the respect of the community somehow.
** But she is a HighClassCallGirl, and widely respected.
*'''Parodied''': ???
*'''Zig Zagged''': Different cultures in the setting have different sexual mores.
*'''Averted''': ShownTheirWork
*'''Enforced''': PoliticallyCorrectHistory
*'''Lampshaded''': ???
*'''Invoked''': ???
*'''Exploited''': Alice becomes TheMistress to KingBobTheNth, and increases her status in society.
*'''Defied''': When word gets out that Alice has been sleeping around, her village (or [[HonorRelatedAbuse her family]]) has her burned at the stake.
*'''Discussed''': ???
*'''Conversed''': ???