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[[caption-width-right:347:Just one of ''SMT''[='=]s many [[OurAngelsAreDifferent angels]];[[note]]Which is, incidentally, not far off from ''biblical'' angels.[[/note]] "holy" doesn't mean "easy on the eyes".]]

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[[caption-width-right:347:Just one of ''SMT''[='=]s many [[OurAngelsAreDifferent angels]];[[note]]Which is, incidentally, not far off from ''biblical'' angels.[[/note]] physical proof that "holy" doesn't mean "easy on the eyes".]]
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** Law's goals are often either iron-fist theocratic dictatorship or brainwashing everyone into submission; see the above YHVH example for what happens when The Almighty directly gets involved.

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** Law's goals are often either iron-fist theocratic dictatorship or brainwashing everyone into submission; see the above YHVH example for what happens when The Almighty directly gets involved.submission.
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* [[BothOrderAndChaosAreDangerous Both the Law and Chaos sides have pretty shady ways of changing the world]], especially for humanity, and the alternatives are generally not much better(;

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** While the Neutral paths of many games [[GoldenMeanFallacy aren't much better]] since they just regress back into the [[ViciousCycle never-ending war]] between Law and Chaos as the introduction of ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiII'' sadly illustrates, they're popular choices for many players simply because Neutral is often presented as a reasonable balance and its endings are generally considered [[ALighterShadeOfBlack less immediately-terrifying than those of the Law and Chaos factions]].

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** While the The Neutral paths of many games [[GoldenMeanFallacy aren't much better]] since they just regress back into the [[ViciousCycle never-ending war]] between Law and Chaos as the introduction of ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiII'' sadly illustrates, being a HappyEndingOverride of ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiI''[='=] where its protaognist attempts to establish a world of balance only for ''SMT II''[='=]s intro to point out that that plan went ''horribly'' wrong. Yet they're popular choices for many players simply because Neutral is often presented as a reasonable balance and its endings are generally considered [[ALighterShadeOfBlack less immediately-terrifying than those of the Law and Chaos factions]].

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* [[BothOrderAndChaosAreDangerous Both the Law and Chaos sides have pretty shady ways of changing the world]], especially for humanity. Law's goals are often either iron-fist theocratic dictatorship or brainwashing everyone into submission; see the above YHVH example for what happens when The Almighty directly gets involved. Chaos's goals range from MightMakesRight anarchy to [[MindRape purging out any and all civilized thought from humanity]]. While the Neutral paths of many games [[GoldenMeanFallacy aren't much better]] since they just regress back into the [[ViciousCycle never-ending war]] between Law and Chaos as the introduction of ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiII'' sadly illustrates, they're popular choices for many players simply because Neutral is often presented as a reasonable balance and its endings are generally considered [[ALighterShadeOfBlack less immediately-terrifying than those of the Law and Chaos factions]]. The White from ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIV'' introduce a [[TakeAThirdOption fourth option]] that may or may not be better than any of those three: Because they just don't care anymore, they come up with the idea of using a black hole generator to return the entire universe to nothing, which they believe is the only way to end the eternal, bitter struggle once and for all. And then there's the Divine Powers' ''fifth'' option in ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIVApocalypse'', which consists of harvesting human souls ''en masse'' whether humanity wants it or not to create a new universe free of YHVH's rule, which most of the humans in Tokyo agree isn't much better than what Lucifer and Merkabah are doing. And then if you reject the Law and Chaos paths, it turns out that both Merkabah ''and'' Lucifer are creations of YHVH whose jobs are to uphold a massive farce disguised as a genuine OrderVersusChaos conflict just to make the Almighty look better.

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* [[BothOrderAndChaosAreDangerous Both the Law and Chaos sides have pretty shady ways of changing the world]], especially for humanity. humanity, and the alternatives are generally not much better(;
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Law's goals are often either iron-fist theocratic dictatorship or brainwashing everyone into submission; see the above YHVH example for what happens when The Almighty directly gets involved. involved.
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Chaos's goals range from MightMakesRight anarchy to [[MindRape purging out any and all civilized thought from humanity]]. humanity]].
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While the Neutral paths of many games [[GoldenMeanFallacy aren't much better]] since they just regress back into the [[ViciousCycle never-ending war]] between Law and Chaos as the introduction of ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiII'' sadly illustrates, they're popular choices for many players simply because Neutral is often presented as a reasonable balance and its endings are generally considered [[ALighterShadeOfBlack less immediately-terrifying than those of the Law and Chaos factions]]. factions]].
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The White from ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIV'' introduce a [[TakeAThirdOption fourth option]] that may or may not be better than any of those three: Because they just don't care anymore, they come up with the idea of using a black hole generator to return the entire universe to nothing, which they believe is the only way to end the eternal, bitter struggle once and for all. all.
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And then there's the Divine Powers' ''fifth'' option in ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIVApocalypse'', which consists of harvesting human souls ''en masse'' whether humanity wants it or not to create a new universe free of YHVH's rule, which most of the humans in Tokyo agree isn't much better than what Lucifer and Merkabah are doing. And then if you reject the Law and Chaos paths, it turns out that both Merkabah ''and'' Lucifer are creations of YHVH whose jobs are to uphold a massive farce disguised as a genuine OrderVersusChaos conflict just to make the Almighty look better. Krishna and his Divine Powers cronies may certainly be malevolent, but he's ''right'' about how YHVH has twisted Law and Chaos for His own benefit.
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** NightmareFuel/Persona5ScrambleThePhantomStrikers

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* On a more meta example, and with some FridgeHorror for good measure: the fact most of the top-tier angels (Metatron, Sandalphon, Melchizedek, Ophanim, and most likely others) are portrayed as robots. Think about what it implies what YHVH [[CyberneticsEatYourSoul wants from his closest servants for a sec.]]
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** Don't forget when Joker summons her in the ''Persona 5 Animation'', she manages to evade Shadow Shido's fists, twists her head 180 degrees and makes a SlasherSmile with [[RedEyesTakeWarning red, glowing eyes]] while behind Shido, then fires a Megidolaon that instantly damages him enough to turn him into his next form.

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** Don't forget when When Joker summons her in the ''Persona 5 Animation'', she manages to evade evades Shadow Shido's fists, twists her head 180 degrees and makes a SlasherSmile with [[RedEyesTakeWarning red, glowing eyes]] while behind Shido, then fires a Megidolaon that instantly damages him enough to turn him into his next form.

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