History NightmareFuel / ShinMegamiTensei

16th Jul '16 12:22:12 PM nombretomado
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* While all of these vague references to other games is really cool, it has a horrifying implication that all of these games take place in a loosely-connected multiverse where ''[[CrapsackWorld any of these apocalyptic scenarios are possible]]''. Even {{Catherine}} has an obscure reference to earlier SMT games, so while it lacks any apocalyptic themes, it still has [[spoiler: particularly evil and meddlesome]] examples of AllMythsAreTrue.

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* While all of these vague references to other games is really cool, it has a horrifying implication that all of these games take place in a loosely-connected multiverse where ''[[CrapsackWorld any of these apocalyptic scenarios are possible]]''. Even {{Catherine}} ''VideoGame/{{Catherine}}'' has an obscure reference to earlier SMT games, so while it lacks any apocalyptic themes, it still has [[spoiler: particularly evil and meddlesome]] examples of AllMythsAreTrue.
3rd Mar '16 12:43:21 PM Paireon
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** The SMT universe is broken. God's insanity is just a symptom of a fundamental horror in the fabric of the universe. ''And it might not always have been that way''.

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** [[CosmicHorrorStory The SMT universe is broken. God's insanity is just a symptom of a fundamental horror in the fabric of the universe. ]] ''And it might not always have been that way''.
4th Jan '16 5:44:37 AM SeptimusHeap
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** Atlus seems bent into making her the worst possible monster possible. As of ''DevilSurvivor2'', she's now a monstruous VampiricDrainer.

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** Atlus seems bent into making her the worst possible monster possible. As of ''DevilSurvivor2'', ''VideoGame/DevilSurvivor2'', she's now a monstruous VampiricDrainer.
8th Sep '15 11:16:47 AM WanderingBrowser
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18th Jun '15 9:50:53 PM LucaEarlgrey
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* [[http://images.wikia.com/megamitensei/images/d/de/LegionSMT.jpg Legion]], a mass of fleshy heads welded together.

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* [[http://images.wikia.com/megamitensei/images/d/de/LegionSMT.jpg Legion]], a mass of fleshy heads welded together. Some may notice that its design is a tad similar to ''Franchise/{{Castlevania}}''[='=]s take on Legion.
18th Jun '15 8:36:48 PM LucaEarlgrey
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* [[GreyAndGreyMorality Both the Law and Chaos sides have pretty shady ways of changing the world]], especially for humanity. Law's goals are often either iron-fist theocratic dictatorship or brainwashing everyone into submission; see the above YHVH example for what happens when The Almighty directly gets involved. Chaos's goals range from MightMakesRight anarchy to [[MindRape purging out any and all civilized thought from humanity]]. While the Neutral paths of many games [[GoldenMeanFallacy aren't much better]] since they just regress back into the [[ViciousCycle never-ending]] [[ForeverWar war]] between Law and Chaos as the introduction of ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiII'' sadly illustrates, they're popular choices for many players simply because Neutral is often presented as a reasonable balance and its endings are generally considered [[ALighterShadeOfBlack less immediately-terrifying than those of the Law and Chaos factions]]. [[spoiler:The White]] from ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIV'' introduce a [[TakeAThirdOption fourth option]] that may or may not be better than any of those three: [[spoiler:Because [[DarknessInducedAudienceApathy they just don't care anymore]], they come up with the idea of using a black hole generator to return the entire universe to nothing, which they believe is the only way to end the eternal, biter struggle once and for all.]]

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* [[GreyAndGreyMorality Both the Law and Chaos sides have pretty shady ways of changing the world]], especially for humanity. Law's goals are often either iron-fist theocratic dictatorship or brainwashing everyone into submission; see the above YHVH example for what happens when The Almighty directly gets involved. Chaos's goals range from MightMakesRight anarchy to [[MindRape purging out any and all civilized thought from humanity]]. While the Neutral paths of many games [[GoldenMeanFallacy aren't much better]] since they just regress back into the [[ViciousCycle never-ending]] [[ForeverWar war]] between Law and Chaos as the introduction of ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiII'' sadly illustrates, they're popular choices for many players simply because Neutral is often presented as a reasonable balance and its endings are generally considered [[ALighterShadeOfBlack less immediately-terrifying than those of the Law and Chaos factions]]. [[spoiler:The White]] from ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIV'' introduce a [[TakeAThirdOption fourth option]] that may or may not be better than any of those three: [[spoiler:Because [[DarknessInducedAudienceApathy they just don't care anymore]], they come up with the idea of using a black hole generator to return the entire universe to nothing, which they believe is the only way to end the eternal, biter bitter struggle once and for all.]]
15th Jun '15 12:21:09 AM LucaEarlgrey
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* [[GreyAndGreyMorality Both the Law and Chaos sides have pretty shady ways of changing the world]], especially for humanity. Law's goals are often either iron-fist theocratic dictatorship or brainwashing everyone into submission; see the above YHVH example for what happens when The Almighty directly gets involved. Chaos's goals range from MightMakesRight anarchy to [[MindRape purging out any and all civilized thought from humanity]]. While the Neutral paths of many games [[GoldenMeanFallacy aren't much better]] since they just regress back into the [[ViciousCycle never-ending]] [[ForeverWar war]] between Law and Chaos as the introduction of ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiII'' sadly illustrates, they're popular choices for many players simply because Neutral is often presented as a reasonable balance and its endings are generally considered [[ALighterShadeOfBlack less immediately-terrifying than those of the Law and Chaos factions]]. Because there is no long-term solution out of this eternal conflict, [[spoiler:the White]] from ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIV'' introduce a [[TakeAThirdOption fourth option]] that may or may not be better than any of those three: [[spoiler:Because [[DarknessInducedAudienceApathy they just don't care anymore]], they come up with the idea of using a black hole generator to return the entire universe to nothing.]]

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* [[GreyAndGreyMorality Both the Law and Chaos sides have pretty shady ways of changing the world]], especially for humanity. Law's goals are often either iron-fist theocratic dictatorship or brainwashing everyone into submission; see the above YHVH example for what happens when The Almighty directly gets involved. Chaos's goals range from MightMakesRight anarchy to [[MindRape purging out any and all civilized thought from humanity]]. While the Neutral paths of many games [[GoldenMeanFallacy aren't much better]] since they just regress back into the [[ViciousCycle never-ending]] [[ForeverWar war]] between Law and Chaos as the introduction of ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiII'' sadly illustrates, they're popular choices for many players simply because Neutral is often presented as a reasonable balance and its endings are generally considered [[ALighterShadeOfBlack less immediately-terrifying than those of the Law and Chaos factions]]. Because there is no long-term solution out of this eternal conflict, [[spoiler:the [[spoiler:The White]] from ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIV'' introduce a [[TakeAThirdOption fourth option]] that may or may not be better than any of those three: [[spoiler:Because [[DarknessInducedAudienceApathy they just don't care anymore]], they come up with the idea of using a black hole generator to return the entire universe to nothing.nothing, which they believe is the only way to end the eternal, biter struggle once and for all.]]
13th Jun '15 12:46:10 PM LucaEarlgrey
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* [[GreyAndGreyMorality Both the Law and Chaos sides have pretty shady ways of changing the world]], especially for humanity. Law's goals are often either iron-fist theocratic dictatorship or brainwashing everyone into submission; see the above YHVH example for what happens when The Almighty directly gets involved. Chaos's goals range from MightMakesRight anarchy to [[MindRape purging out any and all civilized thought from humanity]]. While the Neutral paths of many games [[GoldenMeanFallacy aren't much better]] since they just regress back into the [[ViciousCycle never-ending]] [[ForeverWar war]] between Law and Chaos as the introduction of ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiII'' sadly illustrates, they're popular choices for many players simply because Neutral is often presented as a reasonable balance and its endings are generally considered [[ALighterShadeOfBlack less immediately-terrifying than those of the Law and Chaos factions]]. Because there is no solution out of this eternal conflict, [[spoiler:the White]] from ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIV'' introduce a [[TakeAThirdOption fourth option]] that may or may not be better than any of those three: [[spoiler:Because [[DarknessInducedAudienceApathy they just don't care anymore]], they come up with the idea of using a black hole generator to return the entire universe to nothing.]]

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* [[GreyAndGreyMorality Both the Law and Chaos sides have pretty shady ways of changing the world]], especially for humanity. Law's goals are often either iron-fist theocratic dictatorship or brainwashing everyone into submission; see the above YHVH example for what happens when The Almighty directly gets involved. Chaos's goals range from MightMakesRight anarchy to [[MindRape purging out any and all civilized thought from humanity]]. While the Neutral paths of many games [[GoldenMeanFallacy aren't much better]] since they just regress back into the [[ViciousCycle never-ending]] [[ForeverWar war]] between Law and Chaos as the introduction of ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiII'' sadly illustrates, they're popular choices for many players simply because Neutral is often presented as a reasonable balance and its endings are generally considered [[ALighterShadeOfBlack less immediately-terrifying than those of the Law and Chaos factions]]. Because there is no long-term solution out of this eternal conflict, [[spoiler:the White]] from ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIV'' introduce a [[TakeAThirdOption fourth option]] that may or may not be better than any of those three: [[spoiler:Because [[DarknessInducedAudienceApathy they just don't care anymore]], they come up with the idea of using a black hole generator to return the entire universe to nothing.]]
13th Jun '15 12:46:00 PM LucaEarlgrey
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* [[GreyAndGreyMorality Both the Law and Chaos sides have pretty shady ways of changing the world]], especially for humanity. Law's goals are often either iron-fist theocratic dictatorship or brainwashing everyone into submission; see the above YHVH example for what happens when The Almighty directly gets involved. Chaos's goals range from MightMakesRight anarchy to [[MindRape purging out any and all civilized thought from humanity]]. While the Neutral paths of many games [[GoldenMeanFallacy aren't much better]] since they just regress back into the [[ViciousCycle never-ending]] [[ForeverWar war]] between Law and Chaos as the introduction of ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiII'' sadly illustrates, they're popular choices for many players simply because Neutral is often presented as a reasonable balance and its endings are generally considered [[ALighterShadeOfBlack less immediately-terrifying than those of the Law and Chaos factions]].

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* [[GreyAndGreyMorality Both the Law and Chaos sides have pretty shady ways of changing the world]], especially for humanity. Law's goals are often either iron-fist theocratic dictatorship or brainwashing everyone into submission; see the above YHVH example for what happens when The Almighty directly gets involved. Chaos's goals range from MightMakesRight anarchy to [[MindRape purging out any and all civilized thought from humanity]]. While the Neutral paths of many games [[GoldenMeanFallacy aren't much better]] since they just regress back into the [[ViciousCycle never-ending]] [[ForeverWar war]] between Law and Chaos as the introduction of ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiII'' sadly illustrates, they're popular choices for many players simply because Neutral is often presented as a reasonable balance and its endings are generally considered [[ALighterShadeOfBlack less immediately-terrifying than those of the Law and Chaos factions]]. Because there is no solution out of this eternal conflict, [[spoiler:the White]] from ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIV'' introduce a [[TakeAThirdOption fourth option]] that may or may not be better than any of those three: [[spoiler:Because [[DarknessInducedAudienceApathy they just don't care anymore]], they come up with the idea of using a black hole generator to return the entire universe to nothing.]]
11th Jun '15 12:30:03 AM LucaEarlgrey
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* [[GreyAndGreyMorality Both the Law and Chaos sides have pretty shady ways of changing the world]], especially for humanity. Law's goals are often either iron-fist theocratic dictatorship or brainwashing everyone into submission. Chaos's goals range from MightMakesRight anarchy to [[MindRape purging out any and all civilized thought from humanity]]. While the Neutral paths of many games [[GoldenMeanFallacy aren't much better]] since they just regress back into the [[ViciousCycle never-ending]] [[ForeverWar war]] between Law and Chaos as the introduction of ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiII'' sadly illustrates, they're popular choices for many players simply because Neutral seems more reasonable than the two extremes and its endings are generally considered [[ALighterShadeOfBlack less immediately-terrifying than those of the Law and Chaos factions]].

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* [[GreyAndGreyMorality Both the Law and Chaos sides have pretty shady ways of changing the world]], especially for humanity. Law's goals are often either iron-fist theocratic dictatorship or brainwashing everyone into submission.submission; see the above YHVH example for what happens when The Almighty directly gets involved. Chaos's goals range from MightMakesRight anarchy to [[MindRape purging out any and all civilized thought from humanity]]. While the Neutral paths of many games [[GoldenMeanFallacy aren't much better]] since they just regress back into the [[ViciousCycle never-ending]] [[ForeverWar war]] between Law and Chaos as the introduction of ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiII'' sadly illustrates, they're popular choices for many players simply because Neutral seems more is often presented as a reasonable than the two extremes balance and its endings are generally considered [[ALighterShadeOfBlack less immediately-terrifying than those of the Law and Chaos factions]].
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