History Fridge / KingdomHearts

** Let's also consider the Pixar villains we ''didn't'' see in this game. We have [[WesternAnimation/MonstersInc Mr. Waternoose]], who's willing to [[EttuBrute banish people who respected and trusted him]], and planned to ''[[WouldHurtaChild kidnap who knows how many children against their will, to hook them up to a machine that would suck the screams out of them.]]'' We also have [[Franchise/TheIncredibles Syndrome]], a man [[ThePowerofHate so consumed in his hatred]] that he devoted his life to [[HeroKiller ''superhuman genocide.'']] We also have [[WesternAnimation/ToyStory2 Stinky Pete]], willing to drag others to a FateWorseThanDeath because he [[ChildHater despises the idea of being played with]], or [[WesternAnimation/ToyStory3 Lotso]], a [[TheResenter bitter]], [[BadBoss oppressive]] tyrant who was ''[[UngratefulBastard perfectly fine leaving the toys who just saved him to die in a fire]]''. One can only imagine what Sunnyside must look like in the Kingdom Hearts universe. We also have [[WesternAnimation/{{Coco}} Ernesto de la Cruz]], a man who tried to [[LackofEmpathy condemn his old friend (Who he also killed for his music.)]] to [[CessationofExistence a final death]], and tried [[BrokenPedestal doom a kid who looked up to him to an early death]], all to save his reputation, one he didn't deserve. We've also got [[WesternAnimation/{{Up}} Charles Muntz]], who tried to hunt down a rare bird, [[SanitySlippage even killing any explorers he met out of paranoia]], and like Ernesto, [[MoralEventHorizon tried to kill a kid and someone who looked up to him...]] This also includes [[WesternAnimation/ABugsLife Hopper]], who forced a colony of ants into an oppressive protection-racket, and when he didn't get the amount of food he wanted, took over said colony, tried to take all their food, and ''[[KicktheDog threatened to squash the queen]]''. Not even Pixar's tragic villains are safe, as we have [[WesternAnimation/WallE AUTO]], [[EmptyShell a machine devoted to its programming, even at the expense of humanity's future]], or [[WesternAnimation/{{Brave}} Mordu]], [[TragicMonster a king who wanted power, and wound up turning into a blood-hungry monster.]] Then there's [[WesternAnimation/ToyStory4 Gabby]] [[VillainyFreeVillain Gabby]], a doll who [[IJustWantToBeLoved wants desperately to be loved by a kid.]] Sounds eerily similar to what happened to all those toys in this game, no kids, no connections, only Heartless. And if you think her already being sentient would save her from this, keep in mind what the Heartless did to Buzz...

* Kairi won't be taking the Mark of Mastery Exam, as she isn't as experienced as Sora or Riku yet.
** And given that Ven was playable in BBS even though he wasn't taking the exam, Kairi could still be playable.
** TheStinger now confirms that this was indeed the case, she wasn't experienced enough yet and is now going to go through basic training with Yen Sid in order to reach that level.

* Fridge Humor: Why are all the Xehanorts varying shades of AmbiguouslyBrown? The original Xehanort grew up on a ''tropical island''.

* The marked differences in portrayal of ''Franchise/FinalFantasy'' characters between their original games and ''Franchise/KingdomHearts'', such as altered appearances and personalities, mismatched ages and/or simply being from different games, seems like a strange decision until you take into account that this is a Disney game. Square was simply adapting the Final Fantasy series as a whole in the same loose manner Disney adapts theirs.

* The Sephiroth we see during the series? It's part of Cloud that Sephiroth used to possess and control Cloud through most of Final Fantasy VII. The one that was defeated in the unloseable battle at the end of that game.

* Fridge Humor: Why are all the Xehanorts varying shades of AmbiguouslyBrown? The original Xehanort grew up on a ''tropical island''.

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* Why was Namine the only nobody without an X in her name? Because Xehanort only needed XIII vessel and as a result saw no reason to brand her with the Recusant's Sigil.
** That, and she's a Nobody of a Princess Of Heart - a girl with [[IncorruptiblePurePureness no darkness whatsoever in her being]]. In layman's terms, ''she can't create a Heartless'', but she '''can''' leave behind the empty shell that is a Nobody. On a similar note, the reason that her name isn't an anagram is because she's not a typical Nobody, since she came from [[MindHive Sora's Heart]].

* One of the recurring themes throughout the entire series is that Sora's usage of the PowerOfFriendship creates a bond with others that can be felt in numerous and extreme circumstances. Notably, the fact that even though they'd all forgotten him due to ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsChainOfMemories,'' as soon as Sora started waking up numerous friends began remembering him again. Now look at [[BigBad Xehanort,]] who has been going out of his way to plant the seeds of his research into every facet of his plans, to the point of not only GrandTheftMe but [[spoiler: creating numerous vessels out of both willing and unwitting pawns.]] Xehanort isn't just a MagnificentBastard that stays one step ahead of the heroes, he is by all rights and means a ShadowArchetype to Sora; both have great power and potential that can do things no one thought possible, and yet are on opposite sides of the spectrum as Xehanort forcibly embeds himself into other's lives for his own purposes while Sora creates his connections in a friendly and benign manner. While the series mostly emphasizes his similarities to Riku, Xehanort truly evolved into ''Sora's anti-thesis.''

** This is supported by the fact that Tidus, Wakka, and Selphie were all orphans in their [[Franchise/FinalFantasy own games]]: Selphie grew up in an orphanage, Wakka's parents were killed by Sin, and Tidus's mother and father are dead and [[spoiler: an Eldrich Abomination]], respectively.

* This troper once wondered why after seeing the scene with Namine shattering Repliku's Memories (and thus his heart) and why she didn't try that with the Organization to escape. Then the troper realized, most Nobodies begin as EmptyShell s before they begin regaining their memories. Even if we take into consideration that [[spoiler:Nobodies can regrow their hearts]], they're still extremely small and thus, barely anything there to manipulate or destroy. Ergo, being a Nobody is basically NoSell ing Namine's ability.

* Almost all characters with an X-shape on their outfits or design were potential vessels for Xehanort or were considered instrumental to his plans. Riku had an X-shaped strap on his Kingdom Hearts 1 outfit, Sora had X-shaped straps on his 2 and his 3D outfits and [[spoiler:The Guardian, who turns out to be Terra's Heartless, had an X-shaped strap of bandages across his face]]. It's only when they remove the X-shape from their outfits do they become free of Xehanort's influence.

** Taking this further, [[spoiler: Xemnas's version of the No Heart Keyblade Armor seen in his boss fight involves several Xs applied to the armor via straps leading from shoulder to shoulder, as if to reflect the fact that he is technically Terra's body, restrained and puppeted by Xehanort's will.]]
** [[spoiler: Although the Organization's Recusant's Sigil is the X in their names, Xigbar's is inconsequential because he already has an X in his original name, Luxu.]]

** Marvel also crossed over with ''[[ComicBook/ArchieMeetsThePunisher Archie]]'' and ''Franchise/{{Godzilla}}'' as well. Likewise, DC crossed over with ''ComicBook/{{Spawn}}'', ''Franchise/StarTrek'', and ''[[ComicBook/TandyComputerWhizKids the Tandy Computer]] [[TheLastOfTheseIsNotLikeTheOthers Whiz Kids]]'' The Archie connection also ties in ''ComicBook/SabrinaTheTeenageWitch'' and ''ComicBook/JosieAndThePussycats'', putting the many adaptations of all those franchises on the radar.

** Puyo Puyo also crossed over with some anime like ''Bleach'', which endangers a [[VideoGame/JumpForce LOT]] of worlds, and ''[[Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion EVANGELION]]'', plus ''[[VideoGame/Persona4 Persona 4]]'', and we know how depraved the villains in Persona can be (Again, Kamoshida, along with [[SerialKiller Tohru Adachi]], [[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder Goro Akechi]], [[ThoseWackyNazis Fuh]][[TheLastOfTheseIsNotLikeTheOthers rer]]), plus Persona 5 having a thing about stealing hearts, and the Shadows have yellow eyes, then again, so do the Hollows in ''Bleach'', and Rukia said they [[WhamLine lose their hearts]]...

** Plus Disney's own villains we have yet to see, like the [[VileVillainSaccharineShow Horned King]], [[DealwiththeDevil Dr. Faciliar]], [[ManipulativeBastard King Candy]] AKA [[TheSociopath Turbo]], [[BadPeopleAbuseAnimals Cruella de Vil]], [[TheStarscream Yzma]], [[CardCarryingVillain Hamsterveil]], [[MadScientist Hans Reinhardt]], [[MaskofSanity Ratigan]], [[BoomerangBigot Judge Doom]], [[TheDreaded Shere Khan]], [[SatanicArchetype the Coachman]], [[SoftSpokenSadist Bill Sykes]], [[EvilCounterpart Negaduck]], [[GreenEyedMonster Flintheart Glumgold]], [[RedBaron the Phantom Blot]], [[TilMurderDoUsPart Constance Hatchaway]], [[PsychopathicWomanchild Madame Medusa]], [[EvilPoacher Percival C. McLeach]], [[AbusiveParents Zira]], [[SeaMonster Tamatoa]], [[WickedWitch Madame Mim]], [[BitchinSheepsClothing Dawn Bellweather]], [[AIIsaCrapshoot DOR-15]], [[RevengeBeforeReason Robert Callaghan]], [[TheCaligula Prince John]], [[SuperPersistentPredator the Big Bad Wolf]], [[EldritchAbomination Bill Cipher]], [[TheBaroness Shego]], [[TheCorrupter Toffee]], [[GalacticConqueror Lord Hater]], [[EvilerThanThou Lord Dominator]], and [[TheLastofTheseIsNotLiketheOthers Dr.]] [[TheChewToy Heinz]] [[IneffectualSympatheticVillain Doofenshmirtz]], to name a few. You don't even have to be evil to turn into a Heartless, you just gotta give in to the Darkness in your Heart. Remember all the [[TheChewToy chew toys]] or [[WellIntentionedExtremist well-intentioned extremists]] that these two companies have in their rosters, and what the Darkness could do to them... [[ParanoiaFuel No world is truly immune to the Darkness]], all we can do is hope the hearts on those worlds are made of stronger stuff...

** No Earth- Xehanort's Heartless [[spoiler: due to having much more influence from the Original and none from Terra, maybe even no Terra at all given certain implications through the series]]

** On Earth- [[spoiler: Terra-Xehanort, the first known case of Xehanort's heart encroaching upon another's]]
** On Heart- Apprentice Xehanort [[spoiler: due to obsession with darkness of heart as well as having the hearts of Terra and Xehanort locked away within this identity near metaphorically stands on heart]]
** Another- [[spoiler: Young Xehanort because he truly is another Xehanort]]

** In Kingdom Hearts 3d, Xemnas reveals that [[spoiler: he was technically lying all along about the whole "nobodies don't have hearts or emotions" thing, wich means that nobodies CAN have hearts and emotions. This means that the quirks and personnalities given to the nobodies in the games and manga are basically foreshadowing this revelation by making them appear more human, thus making ourselves ask: "are these guys really as apathetic and hollow as their reputation makes them out to be?" Seriously, if it wasn't for the black coats, the stock superpowers and you knowing otherwise, you would've definitely mistaken most of them for regular humans.]]

*** ''Dream Drop Distance'' seems to give some support to this theory with the revelation that [[spoiler: Nobodies naturally develop a new heart over time, though it varies from individual to individual. Xemnas's true intention was to keep them ignorant of their own returning hearts until he could use Kingdom Hearts to make them all empty vessels for Xehanort's will]]. That's right. His entire plan was to use Kingdom Hearts [[spoiler: not to give them hearts, but to STRIP them of the hearts they didn't realize they were regaining]].
*** The above revelation makes a certain individual case either [[HilariousInHindsight Hilarious]] or HarsherInHindsight, depending on how you look at it: [[spoiler: Demyx's claim of "Aw, we do too have hearts!". It's very possible that he ''thought'' he was lying to Sora and co., not knowing that he was telling the AccidentalTruth. Or maybe he really believed that he and the other Nobodies ''did'' have hearts, turning his line into a CassandraTruth moment.]]
*** Oh, it gets better than that. The reveal in ''Dream Drop Distance'' about [[spoiler: Nobodies actually having hearts?]] It was already revealed in ''Chain of Memories''. Think about it. [[spoiler: Where did CoM say memories were located? And, before the big reveal what did the Nobodies that weren't definitely in the know about Xemnas' plans say in regards to them feeling anything? They had MEMORIES of those emotions! (mind you I always thought that they either had fragments/false hearts, but still hearts nonetheless)]]

* Namine in ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsChainOfMemories'' was hated by portion of the fandom as a CanonSue trying to usurp Kairi's position. Further in, we learn that's not entirely accurate; Namine IS trying to make Sora forget Kairi by literally supplanting memories of Kairi with memories of herself[[spoiler:, but the only reason she's able to mess with Sora's memories and the memories of those who interact with him is because she is actually Kairi's Nobody thanks to having her heart temporarily separated from her body in the first game]].

* Why do you use cards in Castle Oblivion? Because [[spoiler: Aqua created Castle Oblivion from the ruins of the Land of Departure as a means to protect Ventus's body. As an attempt to restrict access and mobility, she ordained that no one could act inside Castle Oblivion without the use of cards similar to the command slots she had trained with.]]
** ...Only they're purposefully more annoying! That is brilliant!
** Hold on, if she does know about the command slots, does that mean that she can break the fourth wall? I mean, sure, she wouldn't be be the first Kingdom Hearts character to do so, but still...

* At first it bugged me that Kairi [[spoiler: won't be taking the Mark of Mastery Exam]], but then I realized: She isn't as experienced as Sora or Riku yet.

* About character themes: Ventus [[spoiler: and Vanitas']] themes are medleys and remixes of Sora's and Roxas' themes, right? However, remember that this game is a ''prequel''. Ventus' theme isn't an expanded remix of Roxas' theme, Roxas' theme ''is'' Ventus' theme, [[RuleOfSymbolism stripped of several of it's instruments and notes.]] Likewise, Ventus' and [[spoiler: Vanitas's]] themes aren't using riffs from Sora's theme, [[FridgeHorror Sora's theme is the '' union'' of their themes.]] [[OhCrap You know what]] [[SealedEvilInACan this implies]] [[EnemyWithin for Sora, guys.]] Pretty ironic, considering that the part which comes from [[spoiler: Vanitas]] is the ''cheerful'' one in Sora's theme.

* Ever notice how, in VideoGame/KingdomHeartsII, you primarily fight Emblem Heartless (the more colorful ones branded with the Hearless emblem that release hearts when killed) and only fight Purebloods (the ones that don't have either of those like Shadows, Neoshadows, Darkballs etc) in large numbers in The World That Never Was? Simple: the Purebloods can't easily get to you! Yen Sid specifically states that the actions in the first game prevented a vast number from pouring into the Realm of Light from the Dark Realm, but he never goes into detail about why there's still so many Heartless in general (heck, you fight an army of them halfway through the game). The Emblem Heartless are running around stealing Hearts and being manufacuted, but the Purebloods have to find a way through from the Dark Realm now! That's why you only fight lots of them in TWTNW: it's easier for them to get through because TWTNW sits on the darker side of the Realm of In-Between (the same applies to Castle Oblivion and possibly [[spoiler: The Keyblade Graveyard]] in Birth by Sleep).

** You know what else means emptiness? [[spoiler: Vanitas.]]

** Speaking of the ending of RE:coded: [[spoiler: It's said that Xehanort is back because both his Nobody and Heartless have been killed. That means Organization XIII can come back in future installments. Let TheWildHunt for your favorite sociopath's Heartless commence! Otherwise, if Nomura wants an easy solution (NEVER. EVER.), the bosses from the first game were left unidentified...]]

* If [[spoiler:Sora is holding onto Ven's heart]], perhaps [[spoiler:Anti-Sora is actually Vanitas?]]
** Or heck, even [[spoiler:Darkside. It's a good assumption that Vanitas is lodged ''somewhere'' in Sora's heart.]]

* In Days, we find that Xemnas wants to find the room of Castle Oblivion that [[spoiler:Ven is in.]] In the first game, "Ansem" wanted to get into the Dark Realm. Could he have been trying to [[spoiler:find Aqua? Terra still has a presense in Xehanort's Heartless.]]
** So wait Ansem/ Xehanort's Heartless while trying to get Kingdom Hearts that was in the realm of darkness was also trying to find [[spoiler: Aqua.]] The heck Xemnas is excusable trying to find the room in Castle Oblivion because he seems to be carry more influence from Terra but Xehanort's Heartless would carry more influence from Master Xehanort.

*** Master Xehanort [[spoiler: is coming back for sure]], all three parts of his person (his heart, his body, and his soul) [[spoiler: have been released.]] Now think about [[spoiler: Terra]] a moment. His heart was with Xehanort's Heartless, his body was with Xemnas, and his soul was with the Lingering Sentiment. All three have been defeated/released. [[spoiler: Doesn't that mean he will come back too?]]

*** There's something that kind of puzzles me though. [[spoiler: When Lea reawakened as a whole person again, he was in Radiant Garden, the lab where it was implied that his heart was removed. Axel died quite a ways away from there, though. If we go by that logic, perhaps when a person is put back together, it'll happen wherever they were first separated in the first place, and the Lingering Sentiment is still in the same place where Terra lost his body. Perhaps with the defeat of "Ansem" and Xemnas, thus freeing Terra's heart and body, they'll return to where the Lingering Sentiment is and Terra will become whole again, armor and all?]]

** Something I realized after playing [[VideoGame/KingdomHearts3DDreamDropDistance DDD]]: For all their similarities, [[spoiler:Riku]] did what [[spoiler:Terra]] could not. He became a [[spoiler:Keyblade Master]] in spite of (or [[DarkIsNotEvil perhaps because of]]) the darkness in his heart. The difference between them is [[spoiler:Riku]] accepted his inner darkness and learned to work ''with'' it instead of constantly trying to fight it. [[spoiler: Riku's]] attitude is also completely different. Instead of being angry and lashing out with darkness like Terra, [[spoiler: Riku]] is actively trying to make amends for what he did when he gave into darkness and humbly agreeing to the Mark of Mastery exam precisely because he feels unworthy. With the above theory in mind, [[spoiler: Terra]] is starting to fulfill his promise to [[spoiler: make things right]] working through [[spoiler: Riku]].

** Fragmentary Passage reveals that while Riku didn't find Aqua, [[spoiler: ''Mickey did'']]. Specifically when he was [[spoiler: closing the Door to Kingdom Hearts]] (at the end of the first game). It's highly possible that [[spoiler: Aqua gave it to Mickey]] who handed it off to Riku to pass on to Kairi.
* This one is fairly simple, but hard to notice due to mislabeling. Axel's chakrams are actually more like Chinese Wind and Fire Wheels. Axel's power is fire, and is friends with Roxas, the nobody of Sora[[spoiler: /Ventus]], who would most accurately be represented by Wind.
** Actually, Roxas' attribute is Light, not Wind. That's Xaldin.
*** Focus on the names, not the powers.

* In BbS, the Unknown battle is, according to WordOfGod, canonical. It doesn't make a lot of sense, since the first time around you ''can't'' fight the Unknown, only on your subsequent playthroughs. [[spoiler: It does make sense if you consider a possible time travel]].

* You know that scene in [=BbS=] where Lea picks up Ventus' wooden keyblade and gives it a few swings? [[spoiler: Well, twelve years and a whole lot of crap later, he gets a keyblade for real. Nicely foreshadowed, Nomura.]]
* So why is it that [[spoiler: Data-Roxas]] is torturing Data-Sora about losing memories in [[spoiler: Castle Oblivion]]? It's because [[spoiler: Roxas lost his memory of Xion.]] Even in the ending of [[spoiler: 358/2 Days]] we can clearly see that [[spoiler: Roxas remembers Xion to some extent, and Riku mocks him for it,]] so it's very likely that he wanted Sora to feel the absolute pain of remembering that there was someone so close to you but not being able to remember their face, name, or why they were so close to you.
* In the White Room of the Old Mansion in Twilight Town (during KHII), one of Namine's drawings depicts four figures: two of them are obviously Roxas and Axel, but who are the other two? Perhaps Riku and Xion, [[spoiler:drawn before the RetGone]]?
* Has any of you seen how Roxas and Naminé get on at both the prologue and the ending of Kingdom Hearts II? It´s almost like they are in love. But then, I realized that they actually are in love. Roxas got Sora´s memories, ALL of them. So, who could say that he didn´t get the memories from COM in which [[spoiler: Sora´s memories get wiped and he starts believing that he loves Naminé]]? We all know how the subconscious plays tricks on us, right? Well, Roxas has memories of [[spoiler: Sora falling in love with Naminé]], but he can´t remember them. However as Naminé puts it, the memories don´t dissappear, they are just disconnected. This way, when he meets Naminé, he is actually remembering [[spoiler: loving her,]] and that is how he falls in love so quickly.
** Actually, no. 358/2 Days takes place before, concurrently with, and after CoM. At first Roxas can't emote because he has no memories with which to base them on (or, going with 3D's 'Nobodies have hearts' thing, he wasn't used to his heart, or whatever.) Sora went through Castle Oblivion around 358/2 Days's midpoint time-wise, as Marluxia, Larxene, Zexion, Lexaeus, and Vexen show up in Days (You get trained by Lexaeus, and Vexen [[spoiler: created Xion]]), before they get sent to Castle Oblivion. After CoM happens, Axel does mention his 'cleanup' there in Days. The first time Roxas and Naminé could ever meet was in the White Room in data-Twilight Town, and even then, Roxas might not even feel anything at all towards her, because he never got Sora's memories (remember, Sora had all his memories once he got unShadowed in 1). Unless it was deep memory of Xion, there is no way Roxas or Naminé could be in love in II's prologue.
* Let's look at the Magic systems throughout the [=KH=] series. [=KH1=] Sora has to use large amounts of mana to do anything powerful with his Keyblade. The only way to replenish this power is through direct contact either from or against the enemy. Mana is stored through his rage and frustration, which is something an inexperienced fighter would do to gain power (even somewhat [[LampshadeHanging lampshaded]] by the MP Rage ability). [=KH2=] Sora still uses mana to perform spells, but when depleted, Sora's magic recharges by itself. Being more skilled with the Keyblade, Sora is more experienced with his magic as well, being able to concentrate to recover his mana. Then Birth by Sleep comes along with our three formally trained Keyblade Warriors. Having way more experience than Sora in his [=KH2=] state, TAV can use techniques with more freedom than Sora, only needing to recharge the mana for that particular attack. When fighting Xehanort [[spoiler:and Eraqus]], actual masters, they use magic and special techniques without restraint. Later on, in Re:Coded, Data Sora's system is like BBS. Its brilliant since he's a program and is constantly reloading his moves. And in DDD, Sora and Riku are more or less on the same bar as Terra, Aqua, and Ventus, so of course they can use their attacks with more freedom.

** The reason Nobody magic works differently from everyone else's is also simple: let's assume that the spells that most of the cast use is "flavored" light, with particularly pure (like Minnie, Ventus, or any of the Princesses of Heart) or strong (like Mickey and Eraqus) magic users capable of [[LightEmUp manipulating light directly]], and a handful of people (i.e. Xehanort, Terra, and Riku) [[CastingAShadow using darkness as a substitute]]. Nobodies don't have hearts [[spoiler:(or rather, don't have strong enough hearts)]] to replenish that light or darkness when it's used, forcing them to store the energy for their spells separately.

* Isa and Lea were friends before the became nobodies. In Days, the friendship between Axel and Saix fades, until they utterly hate each other in KHII. Well, that sort of thing just happens, but once you consider the revelations in DDD it becomes an utterly horrible Tear Jerker. [[spoiler: It is confirmed that Xehanort possessed Saix, and turned him into another Xehanort clone, of sorts. Saix has yellow eyes, which indicates the presence of strong darkness, which implies he was already becoming increasingly Xehanort-like, while ''entirely unaware'' that his identity is being overwritten, all through Days and KHII]] And that's why they stopped being friends. If you look at the secret reports in Days [[spoiler: Axel's reason for them drifting apart was "you've changed, not me.", in reply to Saix saying he was different. And it turns out he was ''absolutely right...'']]
** Even further tearjerker when you realize Xemnas probably made Saix second-in-command even though he is only number 7 because it's revealed in DDD that [[spoiler: Nobodies can regenerate new hearts after the person has lost theirs.]] What's a heart made of? Memories and the people you share them with. Saix and Axel being the only known former-friends in the Organization, Xemnas kept him so close to his side and gave him so many duties to keep him away from Axel in fear of him [[spoiler: regaining his heart through bonding with his old friend]]. Further demonstrated by making him number II (although Xigbar kept the title), as opposed to number VII, next to Axel, number VIII.

** You know who else has power over time? [[spoiler: Young Xehanort.]] And he [[ThatOneBoss does not play fair with it at all.]] [[spoiler: That his existence also explains where Luxord's time powers ''come from'' is even more worrying.]]

* Chernobog is always associated with Xehanort whenever he appears, [[spoiler:fighting SDG in The End of the World and being summoned by his younger version to fight Riku]], and one wonders why. Then you realize that Chernobog is the Slavic God of '''''[[RunningGag DARKNESS!]]''''', so of course he'd be associated with the man who brought darkness across the multiverse.

* Axel has two teardrop-shaped tattoos under his eyes. In RealLife, in the American prison system teardrop tattoos on your face mean that you have murdered somebody, one tattoo for each person you've killed. [[spoiler: Now let's remember what happened to Vexen and Zexion...]]

** Going along with this, remember what happens in 3D when [[spoiler: Lea wakes up and the tattoos are no longer on his face. Axel's crimes have been forgiven.]]
*** Not only that, but [[spoiler: killing Vexen and Zexion merely brought them back as their original selves, Even and Ienzo, as well as sparing them from becoming Xehanort hosts like how Saix and Xigbar ended up. All things considered, Axel did them a favor.]]

*** Okay, but how would Hook know that [[spoiler:Ventus' heart was within Sora]]?

* In [[VideoGame/KingdomHeartsCoded KH re:coded]], the final level, [[spoiler:Castle Oblivion]], is sligthly different than its first appearance, namely [[spoiler:it doesn't fully replicate the worlds it imitates, instead displaying characters and random images in its white halls]]. But think about it: [[spoiler:nobody but Naminé remembers what Castle Oblivion is supposed to look like, and Naminé hid it inside Jiminy's journal]]. It's a watered-down version.
* Nobodies are treated in the games as non existant beings.... Who was the one who started this notion? Xehanort! His reasons? It was because of a belief that a person can't exist in 2 different places at the same time. This seems hypocritical considering that Vanitas is [[spoiler:a second Ven made from half of his Darkness until you listen to Xehanort's words when creating Vanitas("Empty creature from Ventus riven... to you, the name Vanitas shall be given.")]] He's declaring Vanitas to be made of Nothingness just as he does the Nobodies! With this in mind it should be obvious that Nobodies exist just as much as Heartless and Vanitas does and that everyone including Xehanort's enemies have bought into his bias of them not existing and in all likelyhood they would most likely question that bias if they knew that it extended to a being made of Darkness rather than Twilight like the more powerful Nobodies are composed of or the mysterious energy ''lesser'' Nobodies are composed of that Xemnas uses that everyone calls ''Nothingness''. With this in mind it leads one to question what that "Nothingness" energy considered stronger than Darkness by the Princesses of Hearts ''really'' is...

* Here's abit of FridgeBrilliance, FridgeLogic mixed in with FridgeHorror and WildMassGuessing. In Kingdom Hearts 1, [[spoiler: the Keyblade of People's Hearts was made from the Hearts of the Princesses of Heart.]] In DDD, we learn that [[spoiler: the 7 shards of light from the X-Blade became the Princesses's Hearts.]] Ergo, [[spoiler: the Keyblade of People's Hearts is actually the light half of the X-Blade]]. The part where the FridgeLogic, FridgeHorror and finally WildMassGuessing takes place is that [[spoiler: the 13 shards of Darkness from the X-Blade isn't mentioned. What if there's 13 people in the Kingdom Hearts worlds with hearts of [[DarkIsEvil pure Darkness]]? Furthermore, if they exist, could there be a SequelHook outside of the Xehanort saga of them going to their full potential?]]
* Here's something I noticed, though it's probably nothing. Sora's hair color in KH1 is a light/normal brown, while in KH2, it seems to be between brown and blonde, before turning dark brown in [=KH3=] (as I've seen so far). We know that in KH1 and 2 Sora's holding [[spoiler: Ventus's]] heart, and in 2 he's also holding [[spoiler: Roxas's]] heart. As it's been shown that hearts affect hair color (one of the telltale signs of a Xehanort vessel is this), could it be that his hair color turns blonde/brown in 2 [[spoiler: BECAUSE he's holding both Ventus's and Roxas's hearts (they're both blonde), and the reason his hair is dark brown in 3 is that they are no longer within his heart?]].
* Fridge Humor: Why are all the Xehanorts varying shades of AmbiguouslyBrown? [[spoiler: The original Xehanort grew up on a ''tropical island''.]]

*** Oh, it gets better than that. The reveal in ''Dream Drop Distance'' about [[spoiler: Nobodies actually having hearts?]] It was already revealed in ''Chain of Memories''. Think about it. [[spoiler: Where did CoM say memories were located? And, before the big reveal what did the Nobodies that weren't definitely in the know about Xamnas' plans say in regards to them feeling anything? They had MEMORIES of those emotions! (mind you I always thought that they either had fragments/false hearts, but still hearts nonetheless)]]

** Sony's mascot franchises are tied through ''VideoGame/PlayStationAllStarsBattleRoyale'' linked via both Kratos as well as ''Franchise/MetalGear''. [[TheSociopath Penelope]] from the ''VideoGame/SlyCooper'' franchise has so much in common with [[WesternAnimation/Frozen2013 Hans]], that she's pratically his DistaffCounterpart, so her vendetta against Sly could result in another Sköll. And then we have [[VideoGame/JakAndDaxter Dark Makers]], which are pretty much another form of Heartless, and commanded by a cyberized maniac no different from Ansem, Seeker of Darkness.

* In the ''Kingdom Hearts'' manga, one of the changes made to the story is to give the Organization XIII members quirky little habits; things they do when they're not engaging Sora. Lexaeus fiddles with puzzle rings, Zexion cooks, Larxene reads Marquis De Sade, some of them play ''Twister'', etc. The first time I read it, I thought it was simply an attempt to give them a funny quirk; an amusing, but frankly unnecessary way to make the Organization more like a QuirkyMinibossSquad. Then I played ''358/2 Days'', and I realized that this ''totally makes sense!'' The Organization members don't have hearts; emotions and such are very hard for them, and they don't understand a lot of concepts that we humans take for granted. The "vacation" day brings this into sharp relief. Without any missions to do, Roxas finds it hard to fill a single day without work. He ends up wandering around town before doing the only thing he's ever done to pass time; ice-cream. Axel too; he pretty much just sleeps the whole day away, and Roxas is quoted as saying that he has no idea how humans can remain sane over a ''month'' of summer vacation. But back to the manga. In light of that little revelation, it makes sense that the Organization members would have these little habits; they're things that they do simply to kill time. They're probably all things they remember doing as a human, so it's all they really know how to ''do'' to pass time.--Enlong
** In Kingdom Hearts 3d, Xemnas reveals that [[spoiler: he was technically lying all along about the whole "nobodies don't have hearts or emotions" thing, wich means that nobodies CAN have hearts and emotions. This means that the quirks and personnalities given to the nobodies in the games and manga are basically foreshadowing this revelation by making them appear more human, thus making ourselves ask: "are these guys really as apathetic and hollow as their reputation makes them out to be?" Seriously, if it wasn't for the black coats, the stock superpowers and you knowing otherwise, you would've definitely mistaken most of them for regular humans.]]
* I'd recently finished ''358/2 Days'', and was thinking about Organization XIII's {{Sigil Spam}} of the Nobody symbol. Jokingly I thought that it was because [[LaserGuidedAmnesia they kept forgetting]], and kept needing to be reminded that they're Nobodies in Org XIII. Then it hit me. ''That that's basically what they're doing''. Being [[TheHeartless Nobodies]], they have so little identity left, that they're clinging to the scraps they do have (as evidenced with things like catchphrases in ''Days''). Thus posting the Nobody symbol everywhere is just another way of clinging to their present identity (and to a lesser extent their goal of getting a heart). Brilliant!

* Why are all of Organization XIII (& Nobodies in general) so mean & nasty, when not having a heart should mean that they are as incapable of Negative Emotions as they are of Positive Ones? It's because the void where their heart was is being filled by the Darkness, creating a Heart made of Darkness in the same way as the Heartless have bodies made of Darkness. It therefore takes a great effort for the being to overcome the negative emotions that the Darkness brings with it (Fear, Anger, Hate) [[ThenLetMeBeEvil which based on how everyone views them they may not see the point in]] or [[EvilFeelsGood even want to do]] if they were evil to begin with.
** Nobodies do not have hearts of any sort, darkness or light. They are incapable of any kind of emotion, positive or negative. Some of them act "mean & nasty" because they ''do'' have memories of their previous lives, which they can use to act on, as a force of habit. Xemnas and Saix don't even bother with the act. Nobodies cannot be being filled with darkness, because the darkness rejected them just as the light did.
*** ''Dream Drop Distance'' seems to give some support to this theory with the revelation that [[spoiler: Nobodies naturally develop a new heart over time, though it varies from individual to individual. Xemnas's true intention was to keep them ignorant of their own returning hearts until he could use Kingdom Hearts to make them all empty vessels for Xehanort's will]]. That's right. His entire plan was to use Kingdom Hearts [[spoiler: not to give them hearts, but to STRIP them of the hearts they didn't realize they were regaining]].
*** The above revelation makes a certain individual case either [[HilariousInHindsight Hilarious]] or HarsherInHindsight, depending on how you look at it: [[spoiler: Demyx's claim of "Aw, we do too have hearts!". It's very possible that he ''thought'' he was lying to Sora and co., not knowing that he was telling the AccidentalTruth. Or maybe he really believed that he and the other Nobodies ''did'' have hearts, turning his line into a CassandraTruth moment.]]
*** Oh, it gets better than that. The reveal in ''Dream Drop Distance'' about [[spoiler: Nobodies actually having hearts?]] It was already revealed in ''Chain of Memories''. Think about it. [[spoiler: Where did CoM say memories were located? And, before the big reveal what did the Nobodies that weren't definitely in the know about Xamnas' plans say in regards to them feeling anything? They had MEMORIES of those emotions! (mind you I always thought that they either had fragments/false hearts, but still hearts nonetheless)]]

* I started to think about Xehanort and his various main incarnations, and the anagrams formed when you remove the X in his name and I realized each Xehanort embodies a specific anagram to some degree.
** No Earth- Xehanort's Heartless [[spoiler: due to having much more influence from the Original and none from Terra, maybe even no Terra at all given certain implications through the series]]
** No Heart- Xemnas for obvious reasons.
** On Earth- [[spoiler: Terra-Xehanort, the first known case of Xehanort's heart encroaching upon another's]]
** On Heart- Apprentice Xehanort [[spoiler: due to obsession with darkness of heart as well as having the hearts of Terra and Xehanort locked away within this identity near metaphorically stands on heart]]
** Another- [[spoiler: Young Xehanort because he truly is another Xehanort]]
** A Throne- Master Xehanort himself as it is his plans that push the plot forward and our heroes into action, A Throne fits because Master Xehanort is the biggest bad in his saga.

* A Fridge Brilliance argument for Luxord: His ability is "[[TimeMaster Time]]", which, in all regards, be it [[SuperSpeed Hasting things up]], [[BulletTime Slowing them down]] or [[TimeStandsStill Stopping them]] alltogether, is a pretty damn overpowered ability, as has been demonstrated [[JustForPun time and time again]]. Yet Luxord himself is really no big deal in battle, only using his power to turn himself into a TimeLimitBoss... Keep in mind now that Luxord is a gambler, and he isn't the cheating kind, either; even when he and his Nobodies are putting their lives on the line they actually play by the rules they set up. Go ahead and ask yourself now: Would a proper gambler like Luxord really bring a [[GameBreaker game breaking]] power into the [[StealthPun fold]]?

** For starters, they didn't keep their usual appearances, so Scar, who [[SiblingMurder murdered his older brother]] to [[TheUsurper steal the throne]], gaslight his young nephew into self-exile, and tried to caniblize another boy for trespassing, is more evil than [[TheSociopath a guy]] who [[BlackSheep hates his family]], [[DidYouActuallyBelieve left a woman who loved him]] to [[MurderByInaction freeze to death]], and tried to kill said girl's [[LackOfEmpathy emotionally broken sister]] for her throne, along with a woman who kidnapped a baby, kept her isolated for years, and manipulated her just to use her magic hair. Let that sink in for a moment. This is actually a particularly disconcerting bit of FridgeBrilliance when you remember [[ANaziByAnyOtherName who exactly Scar is in his debut film]], and it becomes frighteningly clear why he's so much more evil than them.

*** Okay, but how would Hook know that ((spoiler:Ventus' heart was within sora))?

** Let's also consider the Pixar villains we ''didn't'' see in this game. We have [[WesternAnimation/MonstersInc Mr. Waternoose]], who's willing to [[EttuBrute banish people who respected and trusted him]], and planned to ''[[WouldHurtaChild kidnap who knows how many children against their will, to hook them up to a machine that would suck the screams out of them.]]'' We also have [[WesternAnimation/TheIncredibles Syndrome]], a man [[ThePowerofHate so consumed in his hatred]] that he devoted his life to [[HeroKiller ''superhuman genocide.'']] We also have [[WesternAnimation/ToyStory2 Stinky Pete]], willing to drag others to a FateWorseThanDeath because he [[ChildHater despises the idea of being played with]], or [[WesternAnimation/ToyStory3 Lotso]], a [[TheResenter bitter]], [[BadBoss oppressive]] tyrant who was ''[[UngratefulBastard perfectly fine leaving the toys who just saved him to die in a fire]]''. One can only imagine what Sunnyside must look like in the Kingdom Hearts universe. We also have [[WesternAnimation/{{Coco}} Ernesto de la Cruz]], a man who tried to [[LackofEmpathy condemn his old friend (Who he also killed for his music.)]] to [[CessationofExistence a final death]], and tried [[BrokenPedestal doom a kid who looked up to him to an early death]], all to save his reputation, one he didn't deserve. We've also got [[WesternAnimation/{{Up}} Charles Muntz]], who tried to hunt down a rare bird, [[SanitySlippage even killing any explorers he met out of paranoia]], and like Ernesto, [[MoralEventHorizon tried to kill a kid and someone who looked up to him...]] This also includes [[WesternAnimation/ABugsLife Hopper]], who forced a colony of ants into an oppressive protection-racket, and when he didn't get the amount of food he wanted, took over said colony, tried to take all their food, and ''[[KicktheDog threatened to squash the queen]]''. Not even Pixar's tragic villains are safe, as we have [[WesternAnimation/WallE AUTO]], [[EmptyShell a machine devoted to its programming, even at the expense of humanity's future]], or [[WesternAnimation/{{Brave}} Mordu]], [[TragicMonster a king who wanted power, and wound up turning into a blood-hungry monster.]] Then there's [[WesternAnimation/ToyStory4 Gabby]] [[VillainyFreeVillain Gabby]], a doll who [[IJustWantToBeLoved wants desperately to be loved by a kid.]] Sounds eerily similar to what happened to all those toys in this game, no kids, no connections, only Heartless. And if you think her already being sentient would save her from this, keep in mind what the Heartless did to Buzz...

** And to show that it can always get worse, Cloud and Sephiroth also showed up as guests in ''VideoGame/YoKaiWatch'', which throws in works like ''Manga/InuYasha'', ''Manga/Ranma12'', ''Manga/UruseiYatsura'', the former alone having a slew of dangerous demons that could command Heartless.

* Listed under the GreenLanternRing trope, Keyblades could turn to many forms, depending on the wielder. Now think back to when you got your first house; your parents probably had a skeleton key, allowing them to open any door in the house. In a sense, the Keyblade itself is a skeleton key, able to open many doors to become stronger. Plus, the Kingdom Key is a skeleton-type, so it's kinda alluded.

** Plus Disney's own villains we have yet to see, like the [[VileVillainSaccharineShow Horned King]], [[DealwiththeDevil Dr. Faciliar]], [[ManipulativeBastard King Candy]] AKA [[TheSociopath Turbo]], [[BadPeopleAbuseAnimals Cruella de Vil]], [[TheStarscream Yzma]], [[CardCarryingVillain Hamsterveil]], [[MadScientist Hans Reinhardt]], [[MaskofSanity Ratigan]], [[BoomerangBigot Judge Doom]], [[TheDreaded Shere Khan]], [[SatanicArchetype the Coachman]], [[SoftSpokenSadist Bill Sykes]], [[EvilCounterpart Negaduck]], [[GreenEyedMonster Flintheart Glumgold]], [[TheRedBaron the Phantom Blot]], [[TilMurderDoUsPart Constance Hatchaway]], [[PsychopathicWomanchild Madame Medusa]], [[EvilPoacher Percival C. McLeach]], [[AbusiveParents Zira]], [[SeaMonster Tamatoa]], [[WickedWitch Madame Mim]], [[BitchinSheepsClothing Dawn Bellweather]], [[AIIsaCrapshoot DOR-15]], [[RevengeBeforeReason Robert Callaghan]], [[TheCaligula Prince John]], [[SuperPersistentPredator the Big Bad Wolf]], [[EldritchAbomination Bill Cipher]], [[TheBaroness Shego]], [[TheCorrupter Toffee]], [[GalacticConqueror Lord Hater]], [[EvilerThanThou Lord Dominator]], and [[TheLastofTheseIsNotLiketheOthers Dr.]] [[TheChewToy Heinz]] [[IneffectualSympatheticVillain Doofenshmirtz]], to name a few. You don't even have to be evil to turn into a Heartless, you just gotta give in to the Darkness in your Heart. Remember all the [[TheChewToy chew toys]] or [[WellIntentionedExtremist well-intentioned extremists]] that these two companies have in their rosters, and what the Darkness could do to them... [[ParanoiaFuel No world is truly immune to the Darkness]], all we can do is hope the hearts on those worlds are made of stronger stuff...

** ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' has a world of people who could turn into Heartless, like say [[WouldHurtAChild Sideshow]] [[MaskOfSanity Bob]], [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Mr.]] [[ThePowerOfHate Burns]], or [[DrunkWithPower Russ]] [[KillEmAll Cargill]] to say nothing of the fact that a majority of the town is willing to kill a child or drive said child to suicide over something like losing a baseball game or try to hang a guy's family for something he did. Which means a good chunk of Springfield could turn into powerful Heartless...

** Let's not forget that this could reach as far as the crossovers these franchises have had over the years. Marvel has crossed with the ''Franchise/DCUniverse'', which crossed with ''Franchise/MortalKombat'', which means people like [[TheConqueror Shao Kahn]], [[YourSoulIsMine Shang Tsung]], [[GodOfEvil Shinnok]], [[AGodAmI Darkseid]], [[KillEmAll the Anti-Moniter]], [[UndeadAbomination Black Hand]], or the [[MonsterClown Joker]] could command Heartless. Then you remember that ''VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs'' exists, which could pretty much be a ''[[CrapsackWorld breeding ground for Heartless.]]'' There's also the amount of guest characters that show up in MK and Injustice, meaning people like [[IAmaHumanitarian Leatherface]], [[AlwaysChaoticEvil Xenomorphs]], [[RoaringRampageofRevenge Kratos]], and [[OhCrap Freddy Krueger]] can be added to this list. Then you remember Leatherface and Freddy showing up in ''VideoGame/DeadByDaylight'' and Kratos showing up in ''VideoGame/PlaystationAllStarsBattleRoyale'', and you realize how many worlds the Heartless could ravage. Going back to the ''Injustice'' thing, it had a crossover with [[Franchise/MastersOfTheUniverse He-Man]], which puts the ''Masters of the Universe'' on the pile. Considering the amount of [[CardCarryingVillain villains]] that franchise features, that's already distressing, but then you remember ''WesternAnimation/SheRaAndThePrincessesOfPower''. Yeah, it gives almost all the villains more [[AdaptationalNiceGuy redeemable]] [[AdaptationalHeroism traits]] than their older incarnations, but it also has quite a few potential targets like Catra, who, for most of the series, has had feelings of anger and betrayal that didn't really do wonders for her mental state, and she's even been corrupted before. Who's to say the Heartless wouldn't go after that? The Playstation All-Stars tie-in gets even worse when you consider they have ''Tekken'', which crossed over with ''Series/TheWalkingDead'', which means all the [[CompleteMonster complete monsters]] in that world could become Heartless too. To make the All-Stars tie-in even [[SarcasmMode better]], the game also puts such delightful worlds as [[VideoGame/BioShock1 Rapture]], [[VideoGame/BioShockInfinite Columbia]] (by assocation) and (had the DLC not been cancelled) VideoGame/{{Oddworld}} on the table. Considering all three worlds are utterly corrupt and amoral hellholes packed to the brim with horrible greedy monsters in their source materials, the Heartless would have a field day.

** Adding more fuel to the fire, Kairi, Namine, Yuna, Rikku, and Tifa went [[WebAnimation/DeadFantasy toe-to-toe]] with ''VideoGame/DeadOrAlive'' and ''VideoGame/NinjaGaiden'' characters. And if we want to give the same ''"Every franchise these companies own"'' treatment, Creator/RoosterTeeth on its own has ''Machinima/RedVsBlue'' and ''WebAnimation/CampCamp'' as well.

** ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' has a world of people who could turn into Heartless, like say [[WouldHurtAChild Sideshow]] [[MaskOfSanity Bob]], [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Mr.]] [[PowerOfHate Burns]], or [[DrunkWithPower Russ]] [[KillEmAll Cargill]] to say nothing of the fact that a majority of the town is willing to kill a child or drive said child to suicide over something like losing a baseball game or try to hang a guy's family for something he did. Which means a good chunk of Springfield could turn into powerful Heartless...

** ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' doesn't fare much better, seeing as they crossed over with ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy''(Which Disney also owns now, [[MortonsFork so it's part of this either way]]), ''WesternAnimation/RickAndMorty'', and ''VideoGame/LegoDimensions'', which means '''three whole multiverses with numerous villains''' are in danger too. Keep in mind that the former two have plenty of evil characters, but the latter gives the Heartless access to people like [[RapeisaSpecialKindofEvil Biff Tannen]], [[OmnicidalManiac Gozer]], [[WickedWitch the Wicked Witch of the West]], [[PowerofHate the Daleks]], [[TheCorruptor Sauron]], [[DarkIsEvil Voldemort]], [[SatanicArchetype the Lich]], and so much more.

** Then there's the Square Enix side of things, and while Sephiroth may not be a Heartless in KH, we have yet to see if [[AliensAreBastards Jenova]], [[MadScientist Professor Hojo]], [[CorruptCorporateExecutive President Shinra]], [[OmnicidalManiac Kefka]], [[FallenHero Garland]], [[HellHasNewManagement the Emperor]], [[MadeOfEvil The Cloud of Darkness]], or even ''[[EldritchAbomination Lavos]]'' are as lucky. [[SarcasmMode But wait, it gets better.]] Square Enix has published quite a few anime and manga unrelated to their games or Disney, like ''Manga/FullmetalAlchemist'', ''Manga/SoulEater'', and ''Manga/AkameGaKill'', which means we can throw [[{{Sadist}} Envy]], [[BeautyIsBad Lust]], [[AbusiveParents Shou Tucker]], [[AGodAmI Father]], [[SnakesAreSinister Medusa]], [[TheSociopath Kishin Asura]], [[EntitledToHaveYou Esdeath]], and [[DirtyCoward Prime Minister Honest]], among others, on the pile. It gets worse with ''Anime/SoulEater'' when you remember they had a whole thing about souls succumbing to madness and turning into monsters. [[TheHeartless Sound familiar?]] Also, Cloud and Sephiroth appeared in ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros'', which brings in a whole bunch of potential Heartless. Yeah, we have villains like [[FriendlyEnemy King Dedede]] or [[GoKartingWithBowser Bowser]], but we also have people like [[AdaptationalVillainy Wario]], [[PsychopathicManchild K. Rool]], [[PowerOfHate Ganondorf]], [[TragicMonster Mewtwo]], [[AxCrazy Ridley]], [[TragicVillain Kazuya Mishima]], [[GalacticConqueror Dark Samus]], [[RealityWarper Tabuu]], [[LightIsNotGood Galeem]] and [[DarkIsEvil Dharkon.]] That’s not even getting into all the other villains in each of the associated franchises. And now any ambiguity of this is out the window, seeing as Sora himself is in the game. Smash Bros. also features ''VideoGame/ShovelKnight'', who crossed over with ''VideoGame/RivalsOfAether'', and ''VideoGame/BladeStrangers'', which features ''VideoGame/CaveStory'' and, more distressingly, the ''VideoGame/TheBindingOfIsaac''. You know, '''[[TraumaCongaLine that]]''' [[DeathWorld Binding]] [[LovecraftLite of]] [[TheChewToy Isaac]]. And Shovel Knight also appeared in ''VideoGame/CreepyCastle'', which crosses over with ''VideoGame/SuperMeatBoy'' and ''VideoGame/FiveNightsAtFreddys''. One of these has a fetus who's willing to kidnap, torture, and kill, and the other has a bunch of animatronics and children with [[DysfunctionJunction a huge amount of issues]], as well as a child-murderer.

** Then there's the Square Enix side of things, and while Sephiroth may not be a Heartless in KH, we have yet to see if [[AliensAreBastards Jenova]], [[MadScientist Professor Hojo]], [[CorruptCorporateExecutive President Shinra]], [[OmnicidalManiac Kefka]], [[FallenHero Garland]], [[HellHasNewManagement the Emperor]], [[MadeOfEvil The Cloud of Darkness]], or even ''[[EldritchAbomination Lavos]]'' are as lucky. [[SarcasmMode But wait, it gets better.]] Square Enix has published quite a few anime and manga unrelated to their games or Disney, like ''Manga/FullmetalAlchemist'', ''Manga/SoulEater'', and ''Manga/AkameGaKill'', which means we can throw [[{{Sadist}} Envy]], [[BeautyIsBad Lust]], [[AbusiveParents Shou Tucker]], [[AGodAmI Father]], [[SnakesAreSinister Medusa]], [[TheSociopath Kishin Asura]], [[EntitledToHaveYou Esdeath]], and [[DirtyCoward Prime Minister Honest]], among others, on the pile. It gets worse with ''Anime/SoulEater'' when you remember they had a whole thing about souls succumbing to madness and turning into monsters. [[TheHeartless Sound familiar?]] Also, Cloud and Sephiroth appeared in ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros'', which brings in a whole bunch of potential Heartless. Yeah, we have villains like [[FriendlyEnemy King Dedede]] or [[GoKartingWithBowser Bowser]], but we also have people like [[AdaptationalVillainy Wario]], [[PsychopathicManchild K. Rool]], [[PowerOfHate Ganondorf]], [[TragicMonster Mewtwo]], [[AxCrazy Ridley]], [[TragicVillain Kazuya Mishima]], [[GalacticConqueror Dark Samus]], [[RealityWarper Tabuu]], [[LightIsNotGood Galeem]] and [[DarkIsEvil Dharkon.]] And now any ambiguity of this is out the window, seeing as Sora himself is in the game. Smash Bros. also features ''VideoGame/ShovelKnight'', who crossed over with ''VideoGame/RivalsOfAether'', and ''VideoGame/BladeStrangers'', which features ''VideoGame/CaveStory'' and, more distressingly, the ''VideoGame/TheBindingOfIsaac''. You know, '''[[TraumaCongaLine that]]''' [[DeathWorld Binding]] [[LovecraftLite of]] [[TheChewToy Isaac]]. And Shovel Knight also appeared in ''VideoGame/CreepyCastle'', which crosses over with ''VideoGame/SuperMeatBoy'' and ''VideoGame/FiveNightsAtFreddys''. One of these has a fetus who's willing to kidnap, torture, and kill, and the other has a bunch of animatronics and children with [[DysfunctionJunction a huge amount of issues]], as well as a child-murderer.

* I'd recently finished ''358/2 Days'', and was thinking about Organization XIII's {{Sigil Spam}} of the Nobody symbol. Jokingly I thought that it was because [[LaserGuidedAmnesia they kept forgetting]], and kept needing to be reminded that they're Nobodies in Org XIII. Then it hit me. ''That that's basically what they're doing''. Being [[TheHeartless Nobodies]], they have so little identity left, that they're clinging to the scraps they do have (as evidenced with things like catchphrases in ''Days''). Thus posting the Nobody symbol everywhere is just another way of clinging to their present identity (and to a lesser extent their goal of getting a heart). Brilliant! - {{Tropers/KingSonnDeeDoo}}