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* Troper/{{GamerManDrew}}: The beginning of "Blood and Sauce" has one of my least favorite moments in the entire series. Hank catches Bobby baking a cake with Peggy and responds by becoming ashamed of Bobby for it because it's not manly. Hank then has Bobby give him the oven mitts that he (Bobby) was wearing. Hey, Hank, there's being old-fashioned and uptight, and then there's just being downright ridiculous! Parents are supposed to let their offspring choose their own path. Apparently, Hank, who frequently tried to turn Bobby into Hank Hill 2.0, didn't get the memo.

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* Troper/{{GamerManDrew}}: The beginning of "Blood and Sauce" has one of my least favorite moments in the entire series. Hank catches Bobby baking a cake with Peggy and responds by becoming ashamed of Bobby for it because it's not manly. Hank then has Bobby give him the oven mitts that he (Bobby) was wearing. Hey, Hank, there's being old-fashioned and uptight, and then there's just being downright ridiculous! Parents are supposed to let their offspring choose their own path. Apparently, Hank, who frequently tried tries to turn Bobby into Hank Hill 2.0, didn't get the memo.
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* ''Tropers/{{Capretty}}'': "Husky Bobby". Bobby becomes a male plus-sized kids model and Hank is, of course, embarrassed by this, and he and Bobby are teased for it. Near the end of the episode, Hank pulls Bobby out of a public fashion show. In the middle of the show, a bunch of bullies come up and start chucking doughnuts at the models. We then get this horrible, slow motion montage of these poor young boys being pelted with doughnuts. No one helps them, all the adults and people there just watch and let it happen. When it's over, Bobby turns to Hank and says something like "Wow Dad, you were right!" and Hank is all "I told you so." Except Hank did not pull Bobby out of the show because he knew he would be assaulted; he did it because he himself was embarrassed and for the life of him cannot accept that his son might be into something slightly different. And the end with the doughnuts was such an awful moment that was tacked on just to get a "Gee, thanks Daddy!" ending is a total AssPull to [[DesignatedHero keep Hank likable]]. This episode seriously disturbed me. I was genuinely upset when it was over that no adults felt the need to help these defenseless kids and that all the people just watched.

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* ''Tropers/{{Capretty}}'': "Husky Bobby"."[[Recap/KingOfTheHillS2E6HuskyBobby Husky Bobby]]". Bobby becomes a male plus-sized kids model and Hank is, of course, embarrassed by this, and he and Bobby are teased for it. Near the end of the episode, Hank pulls Bobby out of a public fashion show. In the middle of the show, a bunch of bullies come up and start chucking doughnuts at the models. We then get this horrible, slow motion montage of these poor young boys being pelted with doughnuts. No one helps them, all the adults and people there just watch and let it happen. When it's over, Bobby turns to Hank and says something like "Wow Dad, you were right!" and Hank is all "I told you so." Except Hank did not pull Bobby out of the show because he knew he would be assaulted; he did it because he himself was embarrassed and for the life of him cannot accept that his son might be into something slightly different. And the end with the doughnuts was such an awful moment that was tacked on just to get a "Gee, thanks Daddy!" ending is a total AssPull to [[DesignatedHero keep Hank likable]]. This episode seriously disturbed me. I was genuinely upset when it was over that no adults felt the need to help these defenseless kids and that all the people just watched.
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** Tropers/MelancholyUtopia: What really gets on my ass is Hank's shock at the price of cat food in the cat store. PUH-lease. Stop acting like it's any more expensive than owning a dog; they require just as much, if not more, supplies, food, insurance, love, care etc. As a matter of fact, as a guinea pig owner, I can straight up attest to that rodents are far cheaper pets to own than a dog. So if you wanna drag economy into the equation of which pet is superior, all I gotta say is, don't even go there, KOTH.

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** Tropers/MelancholyUtopia: What really gets on my ass is Hank's shock at the price of cat food in the cat store. PUH-lease. Stop acting like it's any more expensive than owning a dog; they dog food; dogs require just as much, if not more, supplies, food, insurance, love, care etc. As a matter of than cats. In fact, as a guinea pig owner, I can straight up attest to that rodents are far cheaper pets to own than a dog. So if you wanna drag economy into the equation of which pet is superior, all I gotta say is, don't even go there, KOTH.
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** Tropers/MelancholyUtopia: What really gets on my ass is Hank's shock at the price of cat food in the cat store. Pleeesse. Stop acting like it's any more expensive than owning a dog; they require just as much, if not more, supplies, food, insurance, love, care etc. As a matter of fact, as a guinea pig owner, I can straight up attest to that rodents are far cheaper pets to own than a dog. So if you wanna drag economy into the equation of which pet is superior, all I gotta say is, don't even go there, KOTH.

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** Tropers/MelancholyUtopia: What really gets on my ass is Hank's shock at the price of cat food in the cat store. Pleeesse.PUH-lease. Stop acting like it's any more expensive than owning a dog; they require just as much, if not more, supplies, food, insurance, love, care etc. As a matter of fact, as a guinea pig owner, I can straight up attest to that rodents are far cheaper pets to own than a dog. So if you wanna drag economy into the equation of which pet is superior, all I gotta say is, don't even go there, KOTH.
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** Tropers/MelancholyUtopia: What really gets on my ass is Hank's shock at the price of cat food in the cat store. Pleeesse. Stop acting like it's any more expensive than owning a dog; they require just as much, if not more, supplies, food, insurance, love, care etc. As a matter of fact, as a guinea pig owner, I can straight up attest to that rodents are far cheaper pets to own than a dog. So if you wanna drag economy into the equation of which pet is superior, all I gotta say is, don't even go there, KOTH.
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* TheOreSama: "Full Metal Dust Jacket". The episode where Bobby get's into fantasy books but Hank continuously yells at him for it and tries to get him into more "manly" adventure books. Like other examples on this page, it makes Hank look like a controlling dip shit.



* Kittens: My [=DMoS=] has to be the episode "A Rover Runs Through It" where the Hills go to Montana to see Peggy's parents. At first, I thought Peggy's mom was just going to be one of those moms that embarrass their kids but love them dearly and was a bit fussy. Boy, was I wrong! Throughout the whole episode, Peggy's mom was nothing but a cynical cold-hearted witch. She kept criticizing Peggy and treated her like crap even when she was helping her around the farm. She was nothing but hateful to her and it's all because Peggy didn't marry a freakin' farmer! Can't she just realize that Peggy's happy with Hank? No wonder why Peggy always felt like crap because that horrible excuse of a mother raised her that way! I never liked her mother, but her mother did make her grow up with confidence. And there were times she kind of did help her out, but still, why can't she just drop that and let her daughter be happy?
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* Troper/{{GamerManDrew}}: The beginning of “Blood and Sauce” has one of my least favorite moments in the entire series. Hank catches Bobby baking a cake with Peggy and and responds by becoming ashamed of Bobby for it because it’s not manly. Hank then has Bobby give him the oven mitts that he (Bobby) was wearing. Hey, Hank, there’s being old-fashioned and uptight, and then there’s just being downright ridiculous! Parents are supposed to let their offspring choose their own path. Apparently, Hank, who frequently tried to turn Bobby into Hank Hill 2.0, didn’t get the memo.

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* Troper/{{GamerManDrew}}: The beginning of “Blood and Sauce” has one of my least favorite moments in the entire series. Hank catches Bobby baking a cake with Peggy and and responds by becoming ashamed of Bobby for it because it’s not manly. Hank then has Bobby give him the oven mitts that he (Bobby) was wearing. Hey, Hank, there’s being old-fashioned and uptight, and then there’s just being downright ridiculous! Parents are supposed to let their offspring choose their own path. Apparently, Hank, who frequently tried to turn Bobby into Hank Hill 2.0, didn’t get the memo.
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* Troper/GamerManDrew: The beginning of “Blood and Sauce” has one of my least favorite moments in the entire series. Hank catches Bobby baking a cake with Peggy and and responds by becoming ashamed of Bobby for it because it’s not manly. Hank then has Bobby give him the oven mitts that he (Bobby) was wearing. Hey, Hank, there’s being old-fashioned and uptight, and then there’s just being downright ridiculous! Parents are supposed to let their offspring choose their own path. Apparently, Hank, who frequently tried to turn Bobby into Hank Hill 2.0, didn’t get the memo.

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* Troper/GamerManDrew: Troper/{{GamerManDrew}}: The beginning of “Blood and Sauce” has one of my least favorite moments in the entire series. Hank catches Bobby baking a cake with Peggy and and responds by becoming ashamed of Bobby for it because it’s not manly. Hank then has Bobby give him the oven mitts that he (Bobby) was wearing. Hey, Hank, there’s being old-fashioned and uptight, and then there’s just being downright ridiculous! Parents are supposed to let their offspring choose their own path. Apparently, Hank, who frequently tried to turn Bobby into Hank Hill 2.0, didn’t get the memo.
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*Troper/GamerManDrew: The beginning of “Blood and Sauce” has one of my least favorite moments in the entire series. Hank catches Bobby baking a cake with Peggy and and responds by becoming ashamed of Bobby for it because it’s not manly. Hank then has Bobby give him the oven mitts that he (Bobby) was wearing. Hey, Hank, there’s being old-fashioned and uptight, and then there’s just being downright ridiculous! Parents are supposed to let their offspring choose their own path. Apparently, Hank, who frequently tried to turn Bobby into Hank Hill 2.0, didn’t get the memo.
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"Dang it writers!" Even shows that are grounded in realism can make a few [[DarthWiki/DethroningMomentOfSuck jarring mistakes]] now and then.

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"Dang it writers!" Even [[WesternAnimation/KingOfTheHill shows that are grounded in realism realism]] can make a few [[DarthWiki/DethroningMomentOfSuck jarring mistakes]] now and then.
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* JadeEyes1: "Après Hank, le Deluge" is positively infuriating Arlin is experiencing flash flooding, and everyone has to evacuate to the middle school; Hank, who would normally be in charge at the shelter, is busy helping with the evacuations, so when Bill (who has backslid into suicidal depression) shows up in his old military uniform, he's mistaken for a government worker and put in charge. Meanwhile, Hank goes to the dam to check the flood gates, and finds the station abandoned. Since he's the only one there, he has to make the snap decision to open the flood gates (which have cracks in them). This prevents the dam from bursting (which would have wiped out the entire town), but floods South Arlin, destroying a number of homes and a strip mall. When Hank gets to the shelter and tells everyone what happened, they all turn on him, including Everett, the maintenance man who abandoned his post at the dam (who is [[KarmaHoudini defended by the crowd]] and [[{{Hypocrite}} proceeds to mock Hank, making chicken sounds]]), while Bill stands by and does nothing. Later, when Hank calls out Bill on being a poor manager (playing with walkie talkies, wasting supplies), Bill turns on Hank and has his underlings (including Everett) lock Hank up in a cage -- then boasts to the crowd that he, [[DrunkOnPower their almighty leader]], has locked up "The Arlin Flooder". [[PunctuatedForEmphasis What. The. Hell.]] Yes, Bill has severe depression, and it's rare that he's afforded any respect, but that's no excuse for him to treat Hank like that -- specially when Hank is one of the few people who treats him with any respect to start with! To make things even more infuriating, it's revealed at the end of the episode that the all clear was given days ago, and Bill deliberately hid the information from everyone so he could hold onto his leadership position -- a leadership position that shouldn't have been his to start with! In the end, no one involved in the fiasco learns anything or suffers any consequences. (Despite Hank having solid evidence that Everett, a county employee, was indirectly responsible for destroying part of the town -- way to grab the IdiotBall there, Hank.) This episode was so bad that even when I re-watched it years later, it made my blood boil. The stupid B Plot (Peggy, acting completely out of character, becomes obsessed that Bobby is developing "shelter shock" and interprets his every action as a "symptom", driving herself insane with worry) doesn't help matters.

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* JadeEyes1: "Après Hank, le Deluge" is positively infuriating infuriating. Arlin is experiencing flash flooding, and everyone has to evacuate to the middle school; Hank, who would normally be in charge at the shelter, is busy helping with the evacuations, so when Bill (who has backslid into suicidal depression) shows up in his old military uniform, he's mistaken for a government worker and put in charge. Meanwhile, Hank goes to the dam to check the flood gates, and finds the station abandoned. Since he's the only one there, he has to make the snap decision to open the flood gates (which have cracks in them). This prevents the dam from bursting (which would have wiped out the entire town), but floods South Arlin, destroying a number of homes and a strip mall. When Hank gets to the shelter and tells everyone what happened, they all turn on him, including Everett, the maintenance man who abandoned his post at the dam (who is [[KarmaHoudini defended by the crowd]] and [[{{Hypocrite}} proceeds to mock Hank, making chicken sounds]]), while Bill stands by and does nothing. Later, when Hank calls out Bill on being a poor manager (playing with walkie talkies, wasting supplies), Bill turns on Hank and has his underlings (including Everett) lock Hank up in a cage -- then boasts to the crowd that he, [[DrunkOnPower their almighty leader]], has locked up "The Arlin Flooder". [[PunctuatedForEmphasis What. The. Hell.]] Yes, Bill has severe depression, and it's rare that he's afforded any respect, but that's no excuse for him to treat Hank like that -- specially when Hank is one of the few people who treats him with any respect to start with! To make things even more infuriating, it's revealed at the end of the episode that the all clear was given days ago, and Bill deliberately hid the information from everyone so he could hold onto his leadership position -- a leadership position that shouldn't have been his to start with! In the end, no one involved in the fiasco learns anything or suffers any consequences. (Despite Hank having solid evidence that Everett, a county employee, was indirectly responsible for destroying part of the town -- way to grab the IdiotBall there, Hank.) This episode was so bad that even when I re-watched it years later, it made my blood boil. The stupid B Plot (Peggy, acting completely out of character, becomes obsessed that Bobby is developing "shelter shock" and interprets his every action as a "symptom", driving herself insane with worry) doesn't help matters.
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* Troper/AllenbysEyes: Many later episodes push it, but "Suite Smells of Excess" may be the Dethroning Moment. It's set up as a Bobby-Hank bonding episode, with Bobby finally getting into college football. Instead we focus on Hank and Co.'s wacky adventures at the Big XII Championship in a forced and unfunny storyline, with Bobby just along for the ride. At this point the series goes from a subdued slice-of-life show to a Texas-skewed ''TheSimpsons''.

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* Troper/AllenbysEyes: Many later episodes push it, but "Suite Smells of Excess" may be the Dethroning Moment. It's set up as a Bobby-Hank bonding episode, with Bobby finally getting into college football. Instead we focus on Hank and Co.'s wacky adventures at the Big XII Championship in a forced and unfunny storyline, with Bobby just along for the ride. At this point the series goes from a subdued slice-of-life show to a Texas-skewed ''TheSimpsons''.''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons''.

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*** Regulas314: You all couldn't have said it better, this episode made Hank downright MONSTROUS! Hank wouldn't have stopped until those parents were pretty much AMISH! That's [[WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy Brian Griffin]] level selfishness and ignorance! Though if those two met, Hank would definitely be disgusted with him, not just because he's a democrat AND an atheist but because he's a talking dog he'd immediately consider him a demon! Not to mention [[HypocriticalHumor how he'd probably call him a stuck up ass who won't stop until everything's perfect and he gets his way!]] My point is this is what made me despise Hank and lose any respect I had for the man. I'd expect that kind of cruelty and stupidity from Peter Griffin or Lois or even worse, but Hank? Seriously, dude, you deserved it when you got kicked in the nuts! Bobby should've done that again!


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*** Regulas314: Thirded! I changed my entry from "Get Your Freak Off" for this. The flashback of Hank basically conditioning Bobby to enjoy beef as much as he does since he was a baby REALLY rubbed me the wrong way. It's as if Hank learned nothing from Cotton trying to shape him "into a man" and views Bobby more as a lawn to be tended than an actual person. Only a handful of episodes have ever really done the whole "Hank was right about Bobby's interest being bad this whole time" plot, but this just felt sickening. Why Bobby didn't bother to mention his team was not only sabotaging their competition, but THREATENING HIM I don’t have a fucking clue!
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* JadeEyes1: "Après Hank, le Deluge" is positively infuriating. To summarize: Arlin is experiencing flash flooding, and everyone has to evacuate to the middle school; Hank, who would normally be in charge at the shelter, is busy helping with the evacuations, so when Bill (who has backslid into suicidal depression) shows up in his old military uniform, he's mistaken for a government worker and put in charge. Meanwhile, Hank goes to the dam to check the flood gates, and finds the station abandoned. Since he's the only one there, he has to make the snap decision to open the flood gates (which have cracks in them). This prevents the dam from bursting (which would have wiped out the entire town), but floods South Arlin, destroying a number of homes and a strip mall. When Hank gets to the shelter and tells everyone what happened, they all turn on him, including Everett, the maintenance man who abandoned his post at the dam (who is [[KarmaHoudini defended by the crowd]] and [[{{Hypocrite}} proceeds to mock Hank, calling him chicken]]), while Bill stands by and does nothing. Later when Hank calls out Bill on being a poor manager (playing with walkie talkies, wasting supplies), Bill turns on Hank and has his underlings (including Everett) lock him up in a cage -- then boasts to the crowd that he, [[DrunkOnPower their almighty leader]], has locked up "The Arlin Flooder". [[PunctuatedForEmphasis What. The. Hell.]] Yes, Bill has severe depression, and it's rare that he's afforded any respect, but that's no excuse for him to treat Hank like that -- specially when Hank is one of the few people who treats him with any respect to start with! To make things even more infuriating, it's revealed at the end of the episode that the all clear was given days ago, and Bill deliberately hid the information from everyone so he could hold onto his leadership position -- a leadership position that shouldn't have even been his to start with. In the end, no one involved in the fiasco learns anything or suffers any consequences. (Despite Hank having solid evidence that Everett, a county employee, was indirectly responsible for destroying part of the town -- way to grab the IdiotBall there, Hank.) This episode was so bad that even when I re-watched it years later, it made my blood boil. The stupid B Plot (Peggy, acting completely out of character, becomes obsessed that Bobby is developing "shelter shock" and interprets his every action as a "symptom", driving herself insane with worry) doesn't help matters.

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* JadeEyes1: "Après Hank, le Deluge" is positively infuriating. To summarize: infuriating Arlin is experiencing flash flooding, and everyone has to evacuate to the middle school; Hank, who would normally be in charge at the shelter, is busy helping with the evacuations, so when Bill (who has backslid into suicidal depression) shows up in his old military uniform, he's mistaken for a government worker and put in charge. Meanwhile, Hank goes to the dam to check the flood gates, and finds the station abandoned. Since he's the only one there, he has to make the snap decision to open the flood gates (which have cracks in them). This prevents the dam from bursting (which would have wiped out the entire town), but floods South Arlin, destroying a number of homes and a strip mall. When Hank gets to the shelter and tells everyone what happened, they all turn on him, including Everett, the maintenance man who abandoned his post at the dam (who is [[KarmaHoudini defended by the crowd]] and [[{{Hypocrite}} proceeds to mock Hank, calling him chicken]]), making chicken sounds]]), while Bill stands by and does nothing. Later Later, when Hank calls out Bill on being a poor manager (playing with walkie talkies, wasting supplies), Bill turns on Hank and has his underlings (including Everett) lock him Hank up in a cage -- then boasts to the crowd that he, [[DrunkOnPower their almighty leader]], has locked up "The Arlin Flooder". [[PunctuatedForEmphasis What. The. Hell.]] Yes, Bill has severe depression, and it's rare that he's afforded any respect, but that's no excuse for him to treat Hank like that -- specially when Hank is one of the few people who treats him with any respect to start with! To make things even more infuriating, it's revealed at the end of the episode that the all clear was given days ago, and Bill deliberately hid the information from everyone so he could hold onto his leadership position -- a leadership position that shouldn't have even been his to start with. with! In the end, no one involved in the fiasco learns anything or suffers any consequences. (Despite Hank having solid evidence that Everett, a county employee, was indirectly responsible for destroying part of the town -- way to grab the IdiotBall there, Hank.) This episode was so bad that even when I re-watched it years later, it made my blood boil. The stupid B Plot (Peggy, acting completely out of character, becomes obsessed that Bobby is developing "shelter shock" and interprets his every action as a "symptom", driving herself insane with worry) doesn't help matters.
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* Troper/{{LSBK}}:I'm surprised nobody mentioned "Three Coaches and Bobby", basically Bobby joins a kid's football team and Hank is so ecstatic (for Hank), but Bobby is terrible and while on the field he sees some kids practicing soccer and wants to join, Hank is, of course, mortified. Long story short Bobby stops enjoying himself when soccer turns out to be more about having one than crushing your opponent in the dirt, and quits. The Deathroning moments for me is the fact that soccer, played by twelve year-olds is equivocated to the sport in general (Hank specifically doesn't it call it a "real sport" several times even to Bobby's coach. But also the fact that 12 year-olds could play a game just for the sake of fun and not winning pisses me off. Yes, the rules for the team were ridiculous, and no, I'm not the kind of person to agree that all kids should get trophies for trying or something like that, but the lesson here is "Any sport that isn't football and people play to just enjoy and not necessarily win and humiliate the other team is obviously isn't a real sport and a complete joke". And note, I HATE soccer with a passion, it doesn't mean a like the terribly stereotypical and over simplified version portrayed here.
* Tropers/{{Collectionchange}}:''Escape from Party Island'' was a mistake as bad as ''Sleight of Hank'', the plot is that Hank takes his mother and her friends to an island to get little glass " miniature" glass figures, which they seem to have an uncomfortably strong affinity to, which then hosts a rowdy Spring Break which causes Hank to worry about their safety and want to leave. The reason this was a [=DMoS=] for me is that Hank is basically treated like trash the whole episode by the old women he goes out of his way to protect and accomodate. Also, Tilly (Hank's mother) keeps excusing her friends actions, and doesn't ever defend him once (which makes the episode where she wishes Hank to defend her seem deeply myopic). A particularly bad moment early on is when they have cucumber sandwiches, and offer some to Hank, and when he refuses because he doesn't like cucumbers, Tilly " apologizes" for him and then seems to agree with her friends that there is something wrong with Hank not liking something they do. We also find out that during Cotton and her marriage, for a period of years, she [[AbusiveParents abandoned Hank to his crazy father]] just so she could save herself mentally with her little glass miniatures. But the worst is the ending, when Hank risks them missing the boat at her request for a miniature they forgot, and gets the Aesop that [[BrokenAesop he should be more considerate of his mother's fragile sanity!?]] [[FlatWhat What]]. This episode calls into question whether Hank really is wrong in trying to connect more with Cotton, since this episode shows her to be an even more selfish and unreasonable parent then him.

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* Troper/{{LSBK}}:I'm surprised nobody mentioned "Three Coaches and Bobby", basically Bobby joins a kid's football team and Hank is so ecstatic (for Hank), but Bobby is terrible and while on the field he sees some kids practicing soccer and wants to join, Hank is, of course, mortified. Long story short Bobby stops enjoying himself when soccer turns out to be more about having one than crushing your opponent in the dirt, and quits. The Deathroning Dethroning moments for me is the fact that soccer, played by twelve year-olds is equivocated to the sport in general (Hank specifically doesn't it call it a "real sport" several times even to Bobby's coach. But also the fact that 12 year-olds could play a game just for the sake of fun and not winning pisses me off. Yes, the rules for the team were ridiculous, and no, I'm not the kind of person to agree that all kids should get trophies for trying or something like that, but the lesson here is "Any sport that isn't football and people play to just enjoy and not necessarily win and humiliate the other team is obviously isn't a real sport and a complete joke". And note, I HATE soccer with a passion, it doesn't mean a I like the terribly stereotypical and over simplified version portrayed here.
* Tropers/{{Collectionchange}}:''Escape from Party Island'' was a mistake as bad as ''Sleight of Hank'', the plot is that Hank takes his mother and her friends to an island to get little glass " miniature" "miniature" glass figures, which they seem to have an uncomfortably strong affinity to, which then hosts a rowdy Spring Break which causes Hank to worry about their safety and want to leave. The reason this was a [=DMoS=] for me is that Hank is basically treated like trash the whole episode by the old women he goes out of his way to protect and accomodate. Also, Tilly (Hank's mother) keeps excusing her friends actions, and doesn't ever defend him once (which makes the episode where she wishes Hank to defend her seem deeply myopic). A particularly bad moment early on is when they have cucumber sandwiches, and offer some to Hank, and when he refuses because he doesn't like cucumbers, Tilly " apologizes" for him and then seems to agree with her friends that there is something wrong with Hank not liking something they do. We also find out that during Cotton and her marriage, for a period of years, she [[AbusiveParents abandoned Hank to his crazy father]] just so she could save herself mentally with her little glass miniatures. But the worst is the ending, when Hank risks them missing the boat at her request for a miniature they forgot, and gets the Aesop that [[BrokenAesop he should be more considerate of his mother's fragile sanity!?]] [[FlatWhat What]]. This episode calls into question whether Hank really is wrong in trying to connect more with Cotton, since this episode shows her to be an even more selfish and unreasonable parent then him.
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* Tropers/MsDevin92: "Just Another Manic Kahn-Day". The episode where it turns out Kahn has manic-depressive disorder. Basically, Hank and Kahn find out [[NotSoDifferent that they both love grilling]] and work together to make a "super-duper grill" or something for a show. However, it turns out [[ContinuityNod Kahn is on medication]]; Hank dismisses the importance of the pills, convinces Kahn to stop taking them, and then puts off getting new ones since the energy exuded by Kahn's manic side is speeding their grill-building along. However, it's obviously not long before Kahn becomes depressed and suicidal, and Hank has to scramble to get him new pills. There's a very loosely-interpreted FriendOrIdolDecision where Kahn "has to" choose whether he's going to take the medicine and become crabby again for the day, or hope he swings back to manic to help Hank finish the grill. He turns out manic, and Kahn says everything he went through was worth it in the end. Excuse me?! There was a very real threat he was going to kill himself! The entire episode reeked of this patronizing attitude towards people with disorders, especially when medicine is required, like it's not a horrible experience in real life. Hank was exploiting someone with severe emotional problems for the sake of a grill! What if Kahn had gone back to being depressive and killed himself, huh writers? Would the precious grill be worth it then?

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* Tropers/MsDevin92: "Just Another Manic Kahn-Day". The episode where it turns out Kahn has manic-depressive disorder. Basically, Hank and Kahn find out [[NotSoDifferent that they both love grilling]] grilling and work together to make a "super-duper grill" or something for a show. However, it turns out [[ContinuityNod Kahn is on medication]]; Hank dismisses the importance of the pills, convinces Kahn to stop taking them, and then puts off getting new ones since the energy exuded by Kahn's manic side is speeding their grill-building along. However, it's obviously not long before Kahn becomes depressed and suicidal, and Hank has to scramble to get him new pills. There's a very loosely-interpreted FriendOrIdolDecision where Kahn "has to" choose whether he's going to take the medicine and become crabby again for the day, or hope he swings back to manic to help Hank finish the grill. He turns out manic, and Kahn says everything he went through was worth it in the end. Excuse me?! There was a very real threat he was going to kill himself! The entire episode reeked of this patronizing attitude towards people with disorders, especially when medicine is required, like it's not a horrible experience in real life. Hank was exploiting someone with severe emotional problems for the sake of a grill! What if Kahn had gone back to being depressive and killed himself, huh writers? Would the precious grill be worth it then?

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** CapriciousSalmon: I thought people were over-exaggerating this episode's message. They were right, it's awful! This was the first in a long line of episodes that convinced me KOTH had no idea about mental health. As somebody who has struggled with mental illness, it was criminal what they did here. They treat Bill like a total baby and a basket case, especially Hank of all people, who yells at the poor guy for having what amounts to a psychological meltdown and gets mad he has to take off work for him. Forget suicide prevention hotlines or psychologists, they should've called 911. I would've added a DMOS for "Just Another Manic Kahn-Day" but the writers made the point Hank was in the wrong ([[BrokenAesop at first, at least]]). I did laugh occasionally, but I expected better from KOTH.


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* CapriciousSalmon: I removed my DMOS for "Pretty, Pretty Dresses" for a later addition. People dislike the Lucky/Luanne story because Luanne is in the same spot as her mother by the end of the show: married to a loser, broke, and with an infant daughter, the only difference being Luanne has a loving support network. People blame Lucky for this, but they should get mad at Peggy! In "Edu-macating Lucky" Lucky decides to propose to Luanne, but wants to get his GED first. He asks Peggy to help him study and Peggy gives him the wrong answers to ensure he fails, thinking he'll break up with Luanne. Too bad Luanne is pregnant, but now, Lucky won't wed her unless it's a ShotgunWedding. So, the proposal goes ahead, because nobody realizes you can take most standardized tests as many times as you want until you pass, as long as you adhere to the waiting periods. If you didn't get it, Peggy was so focused on trying to get Luanne to reach her potential, that she doomed Luanne (and by extension, Lucky and Gracie) to a life of squalor, just out of pride. Lucky was actually serious about improving himself, could've gotten gainfully employed so he could afford more than just a truck and a trailer, and Peggy messed it up for them. And she receives no karma for it, takes no responsibility, and gets to kick Lucky in the stomach! Gracie doesn't deserve to be named after her!
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** CapriciousSalmon: I thought people were over-exaggerating this episode's message. They were right, it's awful! This was the first in a long line of episodes that convinced me KOTH had no idea about mental health. As somebody who has struggled with mental illness, it was criminal what they did here. They treat Bill like a total baby and a basket case, especially Hank of all people, who yells at the poor guy for having what amounts to a psychological meltdown and gets mad he has to take off work for him. Forget suicide prevention hotlines or psychologists, they should've called 911. I would've added a DMOS for "Just Another Manic Kahn-Day" but the writers made the point Hank was in the wrong ([[BrokenAesop at first, at least]]). I did laugh occasionally, but I expected better from KOTH.
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** Ayumuj: To be fair, it was mainly Kahn being an unlikable douche canoe in this episode. Although Minh was essentially taking advantage of Dale and his group to help her train for a skeet shooting competition for Nine Rivers she and Kahn would finally be accepted into the club, Minh started a nice bond with Dale and his friends from the gun club and she has to tell them that she's not going to be going to their gun club anymore after being accepted by Nine Rivers, she's shown (especially the next morning) to be genuinely sad and even disgusted at herself for taking advantage of their trust (Although Khan just makes thing worse for Minh in the background, claiming that they'll get over it since they don't have feelings). Thankfully, it all works out at the end with Minh and Dale's gun club buddies.

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** Ayumuj: Ayumujel: To be fair, it was mainly Kahn being an unlikable douche canoe jerk in this episode. Although Minh was essentially initially taking advantage of fact that Dale and his group were able to help her train for a skeet shooting competition for Nine Rivers so she and Kahn would finally be accepted into the club, Minh started developed a nice bond with Dale and his friends from the gun club and she has to tell them that she's not going to be going to their gun club anymore after being accepted by Nine Rivers, she's shown (especially the next morning) to be genuinely sad and even disgusted at herself for taking advantage of their trust (Although (although Khan just makes thing worse for Minh in the background, claiming claims that they'll get over it since they don't have feelings). Thankfully, it all works out at the end with Minh and Dale's gun club buddies.
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* JadeEyes1: "Après Hank, le Deluge" is positively infuriating. To summarize: Arlin is experiencing flash flooding, and everyone has to evacuate to the middle school; Hank, who would normally be in charge at the shelter, is busy helping with the evacuations, so when Bill (who has backslid into suicidal depression) shows up in his old military uniform, he's mistaken for a government worker and put in charge. Meanwhile, Hank goes to the dam to check the flood gates, and finds the station abandoned. Since he's the only one there, he has to make the snap decision to open the flood gates (which have cracks in them). This prevents the dam from bursting (which would have wiped out the entire town), but floods South Arlin, destroying a number of homes and a strip mall. When Hank gets to the shelter and tells everyone what happened, they all turn on him -- including Everett, the maintenance man who abandoned his post at the dam. (KarmaHoudini Who is defended by the crowd [[{{Hypocrite}} and proceeds to mock Hank, calling him a chicken]], while Bill stands by and does nothing.) Later when Hank calls out Bill on being a poor leader (playing with walkie talkies, wasting supplies), Bill turns on him and has his underlings (including Everett) lock Hank up in a cage -- then boasts to the crowd that he, [[DrunkOnPower their almighty leader]], has locked up "The Arlin Flooder". [[PunctuatedForEmphasis What. The. Hell.]] Yes, Bill has severe depression, and it's rare that he's afforded any respect, but that's no excuse for him to treat Hank like that -- specially when Hank is one of the few people who treats Bill with any respect! To make things even more infuriating, it's revealed at the end of the episode that the all clear was given days ago, and Bill deliberately hid the information from everyone so he could hold onto his leadership position. In the end, no one involved in the fiasco learns anything or suffers any consequences. (Despite Hank having solid evidence that the negligence of [[KarmaHoudini Everett]], a county employee, was indirectly responsible for destroying part of the town -- way to grab the IdiotBall there, Hank.) This episode was so bad that even when I re-watched it years later, it made my blood boil. The stupid B Plot (Peggy, acting completely out of character, becomes obsessed that Bobby is developing "shelter shock" and interprets his every action as a "symptom", driving herself insane with worry) doesn't help matters.

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* JadeEyes1: "Après Hank, le Deluge" is positively infuriating. To summarize: Arlin is experiencing flash flooding, and everyone has to evacuate to the middle school; Hank, who would normally be in charge at the shelter, is busy helping with the evacuations, so when Bill (who has backslid into suicidal depression) shows up in his old military uniform, he's mistaken for a government worker and put in charge. Meanwhile, Hank goes to the dam to check the flood gates, and finds the station abandoned. Since he's the only one there, he has to make the snap decision to open the flood gates (which have cracks in them). This prevents the dam from bursting (which would have wiped out the entire town), but floods South Arlin, destroying a number of homes and a strip mall. When Hank gets to the shelter and tells everyone what happened, they all turn on him -- him, including Everett, the maintenance man who abandoned his post at the dam. (KarmaHoudini Who dam (who is [[KarmaHoudini defended by the crowd crowd]] and [[{{Hypocrite}} and proceeds to mock Hank, calling him a chicken]], chicken]]), while Bill stands by and does nothing.) nothing. Later when Hank calls out Bill on being a poor leader manager (playing with walkie talkies, wasting supplies), Bill turns on him Hank and has his underlings (including Everett) lock Hank him up in a cage -- then boasts to the crowd that he, [[DrunkOnPower their almighty leader]], has locked up "The Arlin Flooder". [[PunctuatedForEmphasis What. The. Hell.]] Yes, Bill has severe depression, and it's rare that he's afforded any respect, but that's no excuse for him to treat Hank like that -- specially when Hank is one of the few people who treats Bill him with any respect! respect to start with! To make things even more infuriating, it's revealed at the end of the episode that the all clear was given days ago, and Bill deliberately hid the information from everyone so he could hold onto his leadership position.position -- a leadership position that shouldn't have even been his to start with. In the end, no one involved in the fiasco learns anything or suffers any consequences. (Despite Hank having solid evidence that the negligence of [[KarmaHoudini Everett]], Everett, a county employee, was indirectly responsible for destroying part of the town -- way to grab the IdiotBall there, Hank.) This episode was so bad that even when I re-watched it years later, it made my blood boil. The stupid B Plot (Peggy, acting completely out of character, becomes obsessed that Bobby is developing "shelter shock" and interprets his every action as a "symptom", driving herself insane with worry) doesn't help matters.
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* Nebagram: "Bwah My Nose" does it for me. The episode has a good, albeit clichéd setup: a rematch of a high school football game against a rival team to avenge a defeat that had haunted Hank and the guys ever since, and Hank having to get over a fear of playing and reinjuring his nose. But what made my blood boil was right at the end when the guys went to torment the opposing captain at his business and cost him potential clients... All for losing a game of flag football. A troper above wrote that Hank mentally never left high school, and this episode proves them 100% correct.
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* JadeEyes1: "Après Hank, le Deluge" is positively infuriating. To summarize: Arlin is experiencing flash flooding, and everyone has to evacuate to the middle school; Hank, who would normally be in charge at the shelter, is busy helping with the evacuations, so when Bill (who backslid into suicidal depression) shows up in his old military uniform, he ends up being mistaken for a government worker and is put in charge. Meanwhile, Hank goes to the dam to check the flood gates, and finds the station abandoned. Since he's the only one there, he has to make a snap decision to open the flood gates (which have cracks in them). This prevents the dam from bursting (which would have destroyed the entire town), but floods South Arlin, instead destroying a number of homes and a strip mall. When Hank gets to the shelter and tells them what happened, everyone turns on him -- including Everett, the maintenance man who abandoned his post at the dam ([[KarmaHoudini who is defended by the crowd]] [[{{Hypocrite}} and then mocks Hank, calling him a chicken, while Bill stands by and does nothing)]]. Later when Hank calls out Bill on being a poor leader (playing with walkie talkies, wasting supplies), Bill turns on him and has his "underlings" (including Everett) lock Hank up in a cage. And then boasts to the crowd that he, [[DrunkOnPower their almighty leader]], has locked up "The Arlin Flooder". [[PunctuatedForEmphasis What. The. Hell.]] Yes, Bill has severe depression, and it's rare that he's afforded any respect, but that's no excuse for him to treat Hank like this! Esspecially since Hank is one of the few people who has treated Bill with respect! To make things even more infuriating, it's revealed at the end of the episode that the all clear was given days ago, and Bill deliberately lied to everyone so that he could hold onto his leadership position. In the end, no one involved in the fiasco learns anything or suffers any consequences (despite Hank having solid evidence that [[KarmaHoudini Everett]], a county employee, was indirectly responsible for destroying part of the town). This episode was so bad that even when I re-watched it years later, it made my blood boil. The stupid B Plot (Peggy, acting completely out of character, becomes obsessed that Bobby is developing "shelter shock", interprets his every action as a "symptom", and drives herself insane with worry) doesn't help matters.

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* JadeEyes1: "Après Hank, le Deluge" is positively infuriating. To summarize: Arlin is experiencing flash flooding, and everyone has to evacuate to the middle school; Hank, who would normally be in charge at the shelter, is busy helping with the evacuations, so when Bill (who has backslid into suicidal depression) shows up in his old military uniform, he ends up being he's mistaken for a government worker and is put in charge. Meanwhile, Hank goes to the dam to check the flood gates, and finds the station abandoned. Since he's the only one there, he has to make a the snap decision to open the flood gates (which have cracks in them). This prevents the dam from bursting (which would have destroyed wiped out the entire town), but floods South Arlin, instead destroying a number of homes and a strip mall. When Hank gets to the shelter and tells them everyone what happened, everyone turns they all turn on him -- including Everett, the maintenance man who abandoned his post at the dam ([[KarmaHoudini who dam. (KarmaHoudini Who is defended by the crowd]] crowd [[{{Hypocrite}} and then mocks proceeds to mock Hank, calling him a chicken, chicken]], while Bill stands by and does nothing)]]. nothing.) Later when Hank calls out Bill on being a poor leader (playing with walkie talkies, wasting supplies), Bill turns on him and has his "underlings" underlings (including Everett) lock Hank up in a cage. And cage -- then boasts to the crowd that he, [[DrunkOnPower their almighty leader]], has locked up "The Arlin Flooder". [[PunctuatedForEmphasis What. The. Hell.]] Yes, Bill has severe depression, and it's rare that he's afforded any respect, but that's no excuse for him to treat Hank like this! Esspecially since that -- specially when Hank is one of the few people who has treated treats Bill with any respect! To make things even more infuriating, it's revealed at the end of the episode that the all clear was given days ago, and Bill deliberately lied to hid the information from everyone so that he could hold onto his leadership position. In the end, no one involved in the fiasco learns anything or suffers any consequences (despite consequences. (Despite Hank having solid evidence that the negligence of [[KarmaHoudini Everett]], a county employee, was indirectly responsible for destroying part of the town). town -- way to grab the IdiotBall there, Hank.) This episode was so bad that even when I re-watched it years later, it made my blood boil. The stupid B Plot (Peggy, acting completely out of character, becomes obsessed that Bobby is developing "shelter shock", shock" and interprets his every action as a "symptom", and drives driving herself insane with worry) doesn't help matters.

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