Created By: Topazan on March 12, 2012 Last Edited By: Topazan on May 15, 2012
Troped

Persistent Musical Cut

A character is singing or playing music, which continues to be heard after a cut to a different scene

Name Space:
Main
Page Type:
Trope
Do We Have This? Probably Needs a Better Name, is there a preexisting term?

Possible launch title: Interscene Diegetic

A technique used mainly in television and film. A character is shown singing a song for in-universe reasons. The camera then cuts to a different scene with different characters in a different place. However, the audience can still hear the first character's song.

Very similar to Diegetic Switch, minus the switch. In this trope, the music that's heard in the second scene is the same that is heard when the singer is on-screen.

Also related: Two Scenes, One Dialogue, Distant Duet, Suspiciously Apropos Music, Transition Track, Left the Background Music On.

Examples:

  • In Muppet Treasure Island during the song 'Love Led Us Here' the camera cuts away from the two lovers to show the triumphant pirates basking in their new wealth. This pirate scene is silent, and only the song is heard when it's playing.
  • In the South Park episode 'Quintuplets 2000', Kenny sings a rendition of Con te partirņ in his room. His song can still be heard after the camera pans over to show a scene at Stan's house.
  • In the Community episode 'Environment Science', Abed starts one of these by singing 'Somewhere Out There' for a reason that Makes Sense In Context. The camera jumps between him and two other scenes, and in one of the other scenes, a band starts playing, resulting in an amazing Distant Duet that continues through all three scenes.
  • In the Stargate Atlantis episode 'Critical Mass' Teyla sings a song called "Beyond The Night" for a funeral. We hear the song while the rest of the base is frantically preparing to evacuate in anticipation of a Wraith attack.
  • In The Fifth Element, the Diva's aria is heard continuously over shots of her singing and of a fight scene happening elsewhere at the same time.
  • This usually happens in Dan BullĀ“s videogame raps. For example, at the beggining of his Mass Effect One and Two Epic Rap, thereĀ“s an image of Sheppard talking, and itĀ“s assumed that he is rapping. However, as we switch to the rest of the video, his raps are still heard.
Community Feedback Replies: 19
  • March 13, 2012
    Aielyn
    I don't have a particular opinion of the trope itself, but the word is "Persistent", not "Persistant".
  • March 13, 2012
    Synchronicity
  • March 13, 2012
    Topazan
    Thanks, fixed.
  • March 13, 2012
    Topazan
    Do you guys at least understand what I mean? Here's the Community clip if it helps.
  • March 13, 2012
    Aielyn
    I think it's fairly straightforward, although I do question the Muppet Treasure Island one (are the muppets singing Love Led Us Here, or is it just a soundtrack behind the scene?). It's where characters start performing a song in one scene, but the song (as performed by them) continues into the next scene anyway.

    It may or may not already exist - if it doesn't, then I'm a little surprised that it doesn't. I know it happens at least once in Scrubs, for instance. I can't see it in Musical Number Index, which is where I'd think it would be if we already had it.
  • March 13, 2012
    Topazan
    There's instrumental accompaniment in the background, but the lyrics are sung by Kermit/Smollet and Ms. Piggy/Benjamina. I don't have the clip handy, so I don't know if the lyrics are heard during the pirate scenes, but I think it counts either way.

    Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if this technique has been named and described before, but I can't seem to find anything about it.
  • March 14, 2012
    Arivne
    Compare Transition Track, where a track of sound that will appear in the next scene starts at the end of the previous scene.
  • March 14, 2012
    IronLion
  • March 14, 2012
    Treblain
    I think this is Diegetic Switch.
  • March 14, 2012
    Topazan
    ^ Hmm. It's very close, but in Diegetic Switch it seems that the music playing in the background is a different version of the diegetic one, hence the switch.

    "Diegetic" is a good word though. Maybe this could be called Interscene Diegetic?
  • March 14, 2012
    Aielyn
    It is very close to Diegetic Switch, but as that one is written, this is slightly different.

    Either this trope needs to be added, or that one needs to be reworded to account for this sort of case. Diegetic Switch currently involves the song switching from "diegetic" to a different version of the same song.
  • March 14, 2012
    Topazan
    What do you guys think, lump or split? Diegetic Switch would need a rename if we lump, since there's no "switch" involved in the trope described here.

    I think they're distinct enough to make two different tropes.
  • March 31, 2012
    Topazan
    Everyone ok with the name Interscene Diegetic?
  • April 1, 2012
    NightNymph
    I think I like it. It would help me out at least. For some reason, every time I see this trope as I go through the list, I read it as "Persistent Musical Cat," and I think to myself very briefly "wow, that's really a thing?" Every. Darn. Time. This is the only potential trope I do that with, too. My brain is strange.
  • April 2, 2012
    Topazan
    Heh, well, I usually wait until launch to change the name of a trope.

    So what should I do with this trope? Should I leave it and wait for more examples, or launch it and let wiki magic handle it?
  • April 3, 2012
    Duncan
    In The Fifth Element, the Diva's aria is heard continuously over shots of her singing and of a fight scene happening elsewhere at the same time.
  • April 3, 2012
    Megadraco
    Web Original:
    • This usually happens in Dan BullĀ“s videogame raps. For example, at the beggining of his Mass Effect One and Two Epic Rap, thereĀ“s an image of Sheppard talking, and itĀ“s assumed that he is rapping. However, as we switch to the rest of the video, his raps are still heard.
  • April 17, 2012
    Topazan
    Any ideas as to how to expand the description?
  • May 15, 2012
    Topazan
    What about just launching with the description as is?

Three days must pass before this YKTTW is Launchworthy or Discardable

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/discussion.php?id=seaei75x0yd5b9ee6cbp8j6p&trope=IntersceneDiegetic