Created By: Sceptre on March 4, 2011 Last Edited By: Sceptre on March 12, 2011
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Sequel Number Snarl

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Subtrope of Numbered Sequels.

Basically, this happens when the numbering of sequels gets really complicated. This often occurs when Sequels and Interquels start filling up the chronology, but can also happen when a sequel has an odd name that doesn't include the number.

This may be why they Stopped Numbering Sequels.

Examples

Film
  • The Rambo series goes First Blood, Rambo: First Blood Part II, Rambo III, John Rambo.

Live-Action TV
  • Doctor Who has reset its numbering twice, the second one quickly forgotten about. Hence why the 2010 series is known as "Series 1/5/31". Steven Moffat gave the joke name "Fnarg" to the series for this very reason. The Five Doctors, the TV movie, and the Specials are considered interquels, with the first and the last of them appended to the end of the series previous. It's on course to happen again, with the split in the 2011 series flip-flopping between "Series 6", "Series 6a/6b", and "Series 6/7"

Software
  • Windows 7. In the software numbering, it's 6.1. Going on major design changes, it is the seventh iteration (NT/95/98/2000/ME being the fourth, XP being the fifth, Vista being the sixth). But as far as major releases go, it's the ninth (NT/95, 98, 2000/ME, etc).

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Video Games
  • Silent Hill had four games, a prequel (Zero), an oddly named sequel (Homecoming), and a remake of the first (Shattered Memories). The next, Downpour, was slated to be released as 8 until someone realised the problem.
  • Super Metroid and Metroid Fusion had the titles "Metroid 3" and "Metroid 4" in their opening titles. Metroid Prime came out the same time as Fusion, and was intended to be just an aside between the original and Return of Samus. But then the Prime series was a runaway success, and then Metroid: Other M, an interquel between Super and Fusion, came out in 2010. This may prompt Nintendo to drop the classic system of numbering if the 2D sequel to Fusion ever comes out.
  • Street Fighter, which was released in the order I-II-Alpha-III-IV. Chronologically, it's I-Alpha-II-IV-III.
  • Final Fantasy IV was originally released in America as II, and VI as III'. Synchronising the sequels as of VII confused Americans briefly, but the numbering has caught on.
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  • March 4, 2011
    FrodoGoofballCoTV
    Would these count?

    Film
    • The Star Trek film series: confusion started with the seventh film was named Star Trek Generations rather than Star Trek VII: Generations and had a different primary cast. As a result, by the time of the second cast change (The 2009 film entitled simply Star Trek), many fans had lost track of how many films there had been (Using the old naming sytem, it would logically have been Star Trek XI: The Future Begins).

    Video Games:
    • Starcraft was initially released on 31 March 1998. By 2009 the franchise included various novels, add - ons, etc., as well as a major Expansion Pack, Brood War. When Starcraft II came out in 2010, there was a noticable Double Take by some fans at the fact that it was "only" the first sequel.
    • Similarly, the Homeworld franchise consists of three major installments, Homeworld (1999), Homeworld: Cataclysm (2000), and Homeworld 2 (2003)
  • March 4, 2011
    ced1106
    Videogames: Final Fantasy. Need We Say More?

    Games: Dungeons and Dragons. Oh, wait -- Advanced Dungeons and Dragons. No, wait. It's Dungeons and Dragons again. Dungeons and Dragons three point five. What's the difference between d20 and OGL again? Then it became 4e and now it's Essentials, which may or may not be Dungeons and Dragons four point five.
  • March 4, 2011
    mack
    • Call Of Duty had it's fourth game named Call Of Duty 4: Modern Warfare. It's sequel is named Modern Warfare 2. Then there's Black Ops, which is arguably a spin-off from Modern Warfare, but isn't given the Modern Warfare tagline.
  • March 4, 2011
    TheChainMan
    For Final Fantasy: When released on America, II, III and V were skipped (For various reasons), so IV was renamed II and VI became III. From VII afterwards they kept the original numbering, and the older games got their right numbers on ports and remakes. This doesn't apply to Japan (Obviously) nor Europe (Since No Export For You meant VII was the first Final Fantasy game there).
  • March 5, 2011
    Arivne
    ^^^ @ced1106: Don't forget several editions of Basic Dungeons and Dragons, plus the Rules Cyclopedia.
  • March 5, 2011
    Worldmaker
    First Blood, Rambo: First Blood Part II, Rambo 3, and lastly, the unnumbered Rambo.
  • March 12, 2011
    Sceptre
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