Created By: captainsandwich on June 8, 2014 Last Edited By: captainsandwich on June 10, 2014
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Tetrapods Came From The Ocean

The first tetrapod coming onto land from the ocean instead of fresh water.

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This trope is a fish coming onto land on a beach from a large mass of water, presumably from the ocean. This portraying evolution, or a gag based on evolution, incorrectly. Tetrapods probably came from fresh water details  Hence why amphibians, the intermediate evolutionary step between fish and other tetrapods, live in fresh water, for at least part of their life cycle. Of course this trope may have actually been the scientific view, but its not anymore (if so, if someone could give a date that would be great). See Also: Somewhere This Index Is Crying, Artistic License – Biology, Hollywood Evolution, and Theme Park Version

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[[Western Animation]]
  • In the beginning episode The Parasite of Teen Titans Go there is a gag along the lines of this trope.
  • In the "Homer Evolution" couch gag of The Simpsons, Homer as a primitive tetrapod crawls out of the ocean (or at least a body of water with an octopus in it).
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[[Real Life]]:
  • Mudskippers live on brackish water (which is halfway between salt and fresh water) mudflats.
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Community Feedback Replies: 15
  • June 9, 2014
    captainsandwich
    If someone adds a Motion To Discard, it would be nice if that person said why.
  • June 9, 2014
    DAN004
    I'm not the one who put the tag, but I agree: I can hardly see a trope here. So first tetrapods came out of the water... And Then What
  • June 9, 2014
    Arivne
    Concentrating on the fish incorrectly coming from the ocean instead of fresh water makes this a much too specific version of Artistic License Biology and Somewhere A Palaeontologist Is Crying.

    Questions:
    • Is this already a part of any of the tropes under Hollywood Evolution?
    • Could it be added as one of the myths under Common Misconceptions about Evolution on Evolution (UsefulNotes/Evolution)?
  • June 9, 2014
    Snicka
    If this is going to be a trope, then:

    • In the "Homer Evolution" couch gag of The Simpsons, Homer as a primitive tetrapod crawls out of the ocean (or at least a body of water with an octopus in it).
  • June 9, 2014
    captainsandwich
    Also DAN 004, its not fish just coming out of water. Its a fish coming out of the ocean onto land. If it comes out of a river, it doesn't count. Also what happens after it comes out of the water is irrelevant, as long as its portrayed as doing something resembling walking or otherwise presented as something like a proto-tetrapod (perhaps some how clearly demonstrating the ability to breath air). If it just washes up on the beach, flops around till it asphyxiates because it can't breath air and doesn't have enough mobility on land to return to the sanctuary of water, it doesn't count. However if the fish comes out of the ocean, shows considerable mobility for a fish on land, and then some 2 foot long invertebrate rushes in from off screen, paralyzes it with it's venom, and lays eggs in it's corpse, it does count.
  • June 9, 2014
    crazysamaritan
    A Tetrapod isn't a fish, so Non Indicative Name is bad.
  • June 9, 2014
    captainsandwich
    Arivne: I've seen this a few times, I don't think it is to narrow. Somewhere A Palaeontologist Is Crying is specifically dinosaurs for some reason (although it is in the trope repair shop so that might change).
    • I don't think so, but once it is a trope, I'll be sure to add it there
    • Probably, but I'd prefer it to be a trope.
  • June 9, 2014
    captainsandwich
    For the name, how is "Proto-Tetrapods Came From The Ocean" then? I think that doesn't roll off the tongue as nicely and that the current name is fine. The current name is "Tetrapods Came From The Ocean", not "The First Tetrapods Lived In The Ocean". If I get enough complaints I'll add the better name tag. Even if I don't add the tag anyone is free to suggest a better name anyways. Maybe its the laconic that needs work, not the trope name. Lastly I think the first tetrapod being a fish is debatable, evolution is blurry. Some biologists consider green algae a member of the Plantae kingdom (by which I mean they consider green algae a plant).
  • June 9, 2014
    captainsandwich
    Don't discard any YKTTW I make without at least having the decency to tell me you are doing it and why.
  • June 9, 2014
    FastEddie
    It is not a trope. What is the storytelling purpose?
  • June 9, 2014
    captainsandwich
    Its not? Also it doesn't need to have a story telling purpose, it is often just a gag, simply there to entertain. I don't think a trope needs to always contribute in some way to the plot.
  • June 9, 2014
    crazysamaritan
    A trope is a narrative convention. If there is no storytelling purpose, we don't want it.
  • June 9, 2014
    m8e
    The gag is that the fishy creature comes from the ocean and not from frechwater?

    ^How is let's say Fanservice a narrative convention? Gags and jokes can be valid tropes, just check Comedy Tropes and In Joke indexes.
  • June 10, 2014
    DAN004
    Gags are storytelling convention.

    On the other hand, this isn't even a gag, this is a Did Not Do The Research that we don't allow anymore.
  • June 10, 2014
    tryrar
    Agreed with you guys, not a trope, or at least one we want.
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