Created By: Bisected8 on May 15, 2012 Last Edited By: Bisected8 on June 26, 2012
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Lady Legionnaire Wear

Skirts which resemble Roman leg armour being used to make female characters more tomboyish or badass

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Segmented skirts (skirts which consist of overlapping strips, "petals" or actual plates of armour, which come down from the waistband) are often used as either a way to make a suit of armour more feminine (by adding in an armoured skirt) or conversely, to mark out one of a group of (fabric) skirt wearers as tougher than the rest (without breaking the theme by giving her trousers).

The reason for this trope is fairly obvious; The Mini Dress Of Power is a popular choice of outfit for an Action Girl, however it is rather impractical (and might look a bit too feminine for some characters). This trope is often used as a compromise. In addition to resembling armour (or actually being armour), it also looks more practical (since the segments won't restrict the wearer's movements). As a result it looks less feminine than a typical dress. This trope is also more likely to be combined with Skirt over Slacks or Modesty Shorts compared to other dress related tropes (either to re-enforce the idea that it's part of a suit of armour, or for modesty).

Distaff Counterpart to Man in a Kilt (since both could be considered battle dress which exposes the wearer's legs). Compare Battle Ballgown and Minidress of Power. Contrast the much less practical (but also fanservice-y) Chainmail Bikini.
Examples;

Anime and Manga
  • In Bleach, Halibell gets one in her released form. Her fraccion Leona also wears one in her unreleased form.

Comics

Film

Literature
  • Female members of the watch in Terry Pratchett's Discworld are described as wearing armour with this, cf Captain Angua, although technically male watchmen have the same uniform (this doesn't stop cover and fan artists drawing them differently, though).

Live-Action Television

Video Games
  • In The Legend of Dragoon three of the four main female characters wear a Mini Dress Of Power, however Dark Action Girl Rose sports this trope as part of her armour.
  • Charme the Thief from Recettear wears a black segmented skirt with many belts and pouches holding the top part in place (and a second, purple, example underneath the first). This contrasts the other female adventurers; Nagi and Tielle.
  • In Titan Quest some of the armors will look this way on a female character. Justified by the setting and the fact that all armors in game are pretty much unisex.
  • The Amazon player class from Diablo II wears one.
  • In Persona 4, Chie's Persona, Tomoe Gozen is represented as a female warrior wearing one of these.
  • Aika from Skies of Arcadia wears a dress that follows the non-armour varient of this trope (with a large belt to hold it in place). She's the tomboy to Fina's girly-girl (doing more physical damage but having less powerful magic than her).
  • Leliana from Dragon Age, although the leather straps don't overlap so much....
  • The Amazonian Armor from Drakensang: the upper part is a metallic corset, the lower one is a multi-segmented leather skirt.
Community Feedback Replies: 62
  • May 15, 2012
    chicagomel
    If I'm not mistaken, this was a regular part of ''Xena Warrior Princess' 's outfit, wasn't it?
  • May 15, 2012
    Bisected8
    Ah, how could I have missed that!
  • May 15, 2012
    acrobox
    some versions of Wonder Woman have had these kinds of skirts
  • May 16, 2012
    Tuckerscreator
    Astrid in How To Train Your Dragon wears one. With spikes.
  • May 17, 2012
    Mozgwsloiku
    In Bleach, Halibell gets one in her released form. Her fraccion Leona also wears one.
  • May 18, 2012
    DragonQuestZ
    Any good page picture suggestions?
  • May 18, 2012
    Bisected8
    There's no real shortage. Pretty much any of the characters mentioned in the examples we've got so far would work.

    Although it would work best if they were next to someone (or more than one person) in a "girly" skirt for contrast.
  • May 18, 2012
    DragonQuestZ
    ^ We don't need contrast, since the trope isn't about that. A picture of a woman doesn't something action related, with the skirt clearly visible, would do the trick.
  • May 18, 2012
    Bisected8
    Well, as I noted, the point of the trope is that it either makes the character look more badass or their armour look more feminine. So while a contrast isn't essential, it would help sum up the trope.

    But, yeah. Either them next to someone with a normal dress or doing something action-y would work.
  • May 18, 2012
    DragonQuestZ
    How would a contrast show the trope? The description doesn't state how it's supposed to contrast with a normal skirt, just that it's a way to try to combine armor with femininity.

    Also, the description should start with the definition, rather than note how it relates to another trope. That kind of paragraph should be further down. Plus it should be noted this often overlaps with Battle Ballgown, or might even be a Sub Trope.
  • May 18, 2012
    Bisected8
    I wouldn't call it a subtrope, but they're definatly both related somehow.

    EDIT: Merged the third paragraph and the first.
  • May 18, 2012
    DragonQuestZ
    ^ So they are Sister Tropes.

    But the line should just say they compare. There aren't any contrasting elements, since they are all essentially dresses for action.
  • May 18, 2012
    Bisected8
    They're feminine dresses for action. The point of this trope is that it's less so by comparison so there's some contrasting elements.

    EDIT: How are these for page images by the way (cropping and resizing aside), ladies and gents?;

    I tried looking for pictures of Halibel (a bit too much skin, not that this bothers me but it might be best to avoid it), Wonder Woman (I couldn't find a decent action picture of any of her outfits which fit this trope) and Charme (all I could find was her default character portrait and that doesn't show her dress) but I couldn't find anything useable.
  • May 18, 2012
    DragonQuestZ
    ^ This trope is about keeping armored feminine by making it still a skirt. So it's not a contrast. It's just a differing form.
  • May 18, 2012
    Bisected8
    Not necessarily, as I said above and in the description; it can be used from the other direction for a none Action Girl and non-armour related purposes to mark her as more tomboyish than her peers.

    Any thoughts on the page image by the way? Or the name for that matter.
  • May 18, 2012
    DragonQuestZ
    Even then, it's still a skirt, meaning it's still meant to be like a dress.
  • May 18, 2012
    Bisected8
    I think I understand what you mean...well, I'll remove the contrast for now.
  • May 20, 2012
    Bisected8
    So, has anyone got any thoughts on the page image?
  • May 21, 2012
    DragonQuestZ
    Those suggestions are okay, but we should look for more.

    Also, the name needs work. It could imply any sort of segmentation, for one thing.
  • May 21, 2012
    Bisected8
    That's odd, I though I put the Better Name tag on it yesterday....
  • May 21, 2012
    DragonQuestZ
    ^ Yeah, glitches tend to take those off. That's why I still leave the messages on top of the ones I make.
  • May 22, 2012
    captainpat
    Simply saying a character where's the outfit is not enough context for these examples. Make sure all of the example mention that these characters are action girls.
  • May 22, 2012
    Bisected8
    ...where has that occured exactly? Of the examples collected so far, Rose and Charme have explainations (both contrasting other characters and describing theirs), Xena's self explanitory (it's in the title of her series), Wonder Woman's well known enough that little explaination's needed (plus, once again, her name gives it away anyway) and the Bleach example notes that the character in question is in a Super Mode. The only one where there's not much explaination, looking at them, is Astrid (and 5/6 isn't bad).
  • May 22, 2012
    captainpat
    Nowhere except for the last example, it's just there for a reminder.
  • May 22, 2012
    Ryuuma
    In Titan Quest some of the armors will have this effect on a female character. Justified by the setting and the fact that all armors in game are pretty much unisex.
  • May 28, 2012
    Bisected8
    So, any thoughts on the name at all?
  • May 31, 2012
    AgProv
    Watchwomen in Terry Pratchett's Discworld are described as wearing armour like this, cf Captain Angua.
  • May 31, 2012
    randomsurfer
    In Hercules The Legendary Journeys Atalanta has a very very brief skirt like this. As in, most of her (thong-covered) ass hangs out the back of it.
  • June 1, 2012
    raven2785
    Tried to wrap my brain around this for a few names but I could only come up with Medieval Mini
  • June 2, 2012
    Bisected8
    Well, it sounds better than the placeholder, but I don't think it really gets the idea across....
  • June 7, 2012
    Bisected8
    Any other ideas for a name?
  • June 7, 2012
    BearyScary
    Medieval Mini sounds okay...

    Lady Legionaire Wear? Too stupid?
  • June 8, 2012
    Bisected8
    Well, it flows OK (it sounds silly, but in a good way IMO). Definatly my favorite so far.
  • June 8, 2012
    JoeG
    • Another vote for Lady Legionaire Wear. Medieval Mini makes it sound FanServicey, and it isn't always.
  • June 8, 2012
    raven2785
    Yup. Lady Legionaire Wear sounds a hell of a lot better than what I suggested.
  • June 8, 2012
    Bisected8
    Well, that's three tropers agreeing on a title at least.

    Does anyone have any thoughts on any other parts of the trope?
  • June 9, 2012
    LittleLizard
    Lady Legionnare. It's with two N. I vote for that as well, though i would like to propose another: Amazon Skirt.

    As for examples, if my memory isn't messed up, the Amazon from Diablo II uses one.
  • June 9, 2012
    Bisected8
    It is indeed, thanks for the correction.
  • June 9, 2012
    LittleLizard
    Another example i just remembered: In Persona 4, Chie's Persona, Tomoe Gozen is represented as a female warrior wearing one of these.
  • June 14, 2012
    Bisected8
    Well, any thoughts on a page image?
  • June 14, 2012
    LittleLizard
    I imagine some of Xena would be good as is the most known example.
  • June 16, 2012
    Bisected8
    I've added a picture of Xena as a provisional image, but it seems a bit blurred (and doesn't show the trope as clearly as I'd like, because of the way the straps that make it up are packed together). If anyone can find a better one of any character (or suggest a better caption), then go ahead.

    EDIT: I found a picture of Fina from Skies Of Arcadia which I think works better (since you can see the skirt's made of segments more clearly). Same still applies.

    Old image;

    [[quoteright:152:http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/Segmented_Skirt_Image_8147.jpg]] [[caption-width-right:152:Adding a touch of femininity to armour, or adding a touch of armour to femininity.]]
  • June 16, 2012
    Jordan
    RE the Discworld example, everyone on the City Watch wears Roman-looking armor (assuming no cases of Non Uniform Uniform).
  • June 16, 2012
    LittleLizard
    If you're not still satisfied with that picture, im quite sure that there is at least some appropiate in Magic The Gathering. No, im waaaaaay to sleepy to search right know. Or on elfwood.com
  • June 17, 2012
    Bisected8
    Someone edited the YKTTW and removed the right aligned formatting and NABN text tag for some reason....
  • June 18, 2012
    Bisected8
    Well, anymore examples or thoughts on the image?

    I don't suppose anyone can think of a page quote?
  • June 18, 2012
    LittleLizard
    What do you mean by a page quote?
  • June 18, 2012
    Bisected8
    Original post by Little Lizard, edited because it was breaking the page.

    --- or --- or --- (Last one from Deviantart)
  • June 18, 2012
    Bisected8
    Page quotes are quotes at the top of a page (as in the Quotes Wiki).

    Of those images, the first and last don't appear to be this trope (the first just has a coat either side, the last just has a couple of leather straps at the front of her skirt) and the second is a bit hard to make out.
  • June 18, 2012
    Ghilz
    The new image is pretty terrible. There's nothing medieval about it. Heck, it's not even a skirt, it's a tube dress!
  • June 18, 2012
    Bisected8
    ...when did anyone say it had to be medieval (part of the reason I chose the image was because people only seemed to be suggesting armour-like examples)? Also "skirt" can refer to a seperate garment, or the part of a dress which covers the same area (I think, anyway).
  • June 18, 2012
    LittleLizard
    this or this (though the second has a watermark). I also found a good one from the Smallvile show, though i don't know if a real person would do the job.
  • June 19, 2012
    JoeG
    I think the one of Astrid from How To Train Your Dragon above illustrates the concept nicely.
  • June 19, 2012
    Bisected8
    I'll try uploading it and see how that looks then...

    Any ideas for captions?
  • June 19, 2012
    raven2785
    Leliana from Dragon Age, here's an Image Also she could be added to the videogame examples.
  • June 19, 2012
    LittleLizard
    ^ That image is perfect!!

    On the other hand, another example (live action tv): Lois uses one in a quite fanservice-ish costume during an episode of Small Ville. (will look later for the image)
  • June 20, 2012
    Bisected8
    @Raven2785: While it fits the trope, I'm not sure you can actually tell it looks like a skirt (I thought it was a very elaborate belt for a moment).
  • June 24, 2012
    kjnoren
    I like the Astrid image: it fits the trope and shows that it's not all about fan service (compared to the more, ah, glamorous examples).
  • June 25, 2012
    Bisected8
    Sorry I disappeared for a while guys, my router broke and I had to wait for my ISP to send out a new one.

    Anyway, if there aren't any objections I'll launch this tommorow?
  • June 26, 2012
    Bisected8
    Launching this evening...let's say 22:00 GMT.
  • June 26, 2012
    Ryuuma
    The Amazonian Armor from Drakensang: the upper part is a metallic corset, the lower one is a multi-segmented leather skirt.
  • June 26, 2012
    Bisected8
    OK, 10 more minutes and I'm launching.
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