History YMMV / XMenOriginsWolverine

13th Jun '16 6:45:15 AM Phoenixion
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* FandomBerserkButton: Fans does ''not'' like calling post-transformed Wade Wilson as Deadpool, they prefer call him "Weapon XI".

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* FandomBerserkButton: Fans does Do ''not'' like calling refer post-transformed Wade Wilson as Deadpool, they prefer call him "Weapon XI".SelfDemonstrating/{{Deadpool}}, his official codename is '''Weapon XI'''.



* TheWoobie: [[spoiler:Teenaged Cyclops]]. Poor little guy. Awwwwwwww.

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* TheWoobie: [[spoiler:Teenaged Cyclops]]. Poor little guy. Awwwwwwww.Awwwwwwww.
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13th Jun '16 6:42:34 AM Phoenixion
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* FandomBerserkButton: Fans does ''not'' like calling post-transformed Wade Wilson as Deadpool, they prefer call him "Weapon XI".
4th Jun '16 5:54:08 PM Phoenixion
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** At one point, Wade Wilson said "Thank you, sir. You look really nice today. It's the green. It brings out the seriousness in your eyes." Ryan Reynold would later portrayed ''[[Film/GreenLantern Green]]'' [[Film/GreenLantern Lantern]], the role that he would happily mocked [[SelfDeprecation (along with this portrayal of Wade Wilson (well, post-transformation, anyway))]] in [[Film/{{Deadpool 2016}} his next appearance as Wade Wilson]].
19th Apr '16 4:10:48 PM SunriseWarrior
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* TookTheBadFilmSeriously: Just about everyone did this. Creator/RyanReynolds and will.i.am in particular stand out, making the most of their roles as Wade Wilson and Kestral respectively.

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* TookTheBadFilmSeriously: Just about everyone did this. Creator/RyanReynolds and will.i.am in particular stand out, making the most of their roles as Wade Wilson and Kestral John Wraith respectively.
16th Apr '16 10:44:18 AM HeraldAlberich
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Could the whole film just be a fake memory implanted in Wolverine's mind to hide his true memories? It would explain a number of continuity snarls.
* AwesomeMusic: See [[AwesomeMusic/XMen this page]].
* CharacterRerailment: In the comics, Comicbook/{{Gambit}}'s characterization had been changed to a [[{{Angst}} Self-loathing]] [[TheAtoner Atoner]] desperate to punish himself for his (morally blameless) role in the Morlock Massacre. This movie, however, reached back to the character's roots and showed him as competent, charming, handsome and relatively low-angst [[TheGambler card-sharp]] who won a CoolPlane in a poker game.
* ContestedSequel: For many, it is a Narm-fest which flies in the face of the other movies' continuity (particularly rewriting a lot of back story from ''Film/X2XMenUnited'', the franchise's peak until ''Film/XMenDaysOfFuturePast''), ruins both Comicbook/{{Gambit}} and SelfDemonstrating/{{Deadpool}} among other characters, allows a lot of characters to make stupid decisions in the name of advancing the plot, and all for the sake of making another movie centered on Wolverine when the first three were essentially his show, anyway. For others, the continuity wasn't all that important, Sabretooth was finally given his due with some decent character development, the incorporation of some new mutants was interesting, and the whole thing is a fun action film.
** There are also a number of fans who felt that the film was simply a poor rendering of Wolverine's origins that did not capture the true horror and brutality of what the Weapon X program did to him.

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Could the whole film just be a fake memory implanted in Wolverine's mind to hide his true memories? It would explain a number of continuity snarls.{{Continuity Snarl}}s.
* AwesomeMusic: See [[AwesomeMusic/XMen this page]].
* CharacterRerailment: In the comics, Comicbook/{{Gambit}}'s characterization had been changed to a [[{{Angst}} Self-loathing]] self-loathing]] [[TheAtoner Atoner]] desperate to punish himself for his (morally blameless) role in the Morlock Massacre. This movie, however, reached reaches back to the character's roots and showed shows him as a competent, charming, handsome handsome, and relatively low-angst [[TheGambler card-sharp]] who won a CoolPlane in a poker game.
* ContestedSequel: For many, it is a Narm-fest {{Narm}}-fest which flies in the face of the other movies' continuity (particularly rewriting a lot of back story from ''Film/X2XMenUnited'', the franchise's peak until ''Film/XMenDaysOfFuturePast''), ruins both Comicbook/{{Gambit}} and SelfDemonstrating/{{Deadpool}} among other characters, allows a lot of characters to make stupid decisions in the name of advancing the plot, and all for the sake of making another movie centered on Wolverine when the first three were essentially his show, anyway. There are also a number of fans who felt that the film was simply a poor rendering of Wolverine's origins that did not capture the true horror and brutality of what the Weapon X program did to him. For others, the continuity wasn't all that important, Sabretooth was finally given his due with some decent character development, the incorporation of some new mutants was interesting, and the whole thing is a fun action film.
** There are also a number of fans who felt that the film was simply a poor rendering of Wolverine's origins that did not capture the true horror and brutality of what the Weapon X program did to him.
film.



** Wade Wilson. Not Deadpool, oh no, but Wilson. Critics and fans pretty much unanimously praised Ryan Reynolds as pre-experimented Wade, and it was what gained Reynolds a shoot in the character's solo film.
** Despite his short amount of screentime and differences with the character, Taylor Kitsch's portrayal of Gambit was well received. Kitsch himself requested in countless occasions to be cast again in any other ''X-Men'' film, but he wasn't brought back for the oncoming movies, which will feature Channing Tatum.
** Liev Schreiber's take on Sabretooth has also been received well, mainly due to [[AxCrazy having the personality down]] and being [[HeReallyCanAct genuinely terrifying.]]

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** Wade Wilson. Not Deadpool, oh no, but Wilson. Critics and fans pretty much unanimously praised Ryan Reynolds as pre-experimented Wade, and it was what gained Reynolds a shoot shot in [[Film/{{Deadpool 2016}} the character's solo film.
film]].
** Despite his short amount of screentime and differences with the character, Taylor Kitsch's portrayal of Gambit was well received. Kitsch himself requested in on countless occasions to be cast again in any other ''X-Men'' film, but he wasn't brought back for the oncoming movies, which will feature Channing Tatum.
** Liev Schreiber's take on Sabretooth has also been received well, mainly due to [[AxCrazy having the personality down]] and being [[HeReallyCanAct genuinely terrifying.]]terrifying]].



** Real world instance: Fans had been clamoring for Gambit to appear in X-Men films since the first one. The public response from the directors and writers was, "If we include him, we want to make him integral to the story. We're not going to just throw him in there because he's popular." Come this film, Gambit is in, fulfilling a minor role which could be handled by any character. It really seems like the studio executives just thought, "Who's a popular character we haven't used yet?"

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** Real world instance: Fans had been clamoring for Gambit to appear in X-Men ''X-Men'' films since the first one. The public response from the directors and writers was, "If we include him, we want to make him integral to the story. We're not going to just throw him in there because he's popular." Come this film, Gambit is in, fulfilling a minor role which could be handled by any character. It really seems like the studio executives just thought, "Who's a popular character we haven't used yet?"



* MemeticMutation: [[Franchise/MortalKombat Barakapool]]
** "Revenge Painting", referring to an incident involving former Fox CEO Tom Rothman re-painting a set behind director Gavin Hood's back is a term used to describe the copious amounts of ExecutiveMeddling that went into the film.

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* MemeticMutation: MemeticMutation:
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[[Franchise/MortalKombat Barakapool]]
Barakapool]], referring to Deadpool's enormous [[BladeBelowTheShoulder retractable arm-mounted adamantium katanas]].
** "Revenge Painting", referring to an incident involving former Fox CEO Tom Rothman re-painting a set behind director Gavin Hood's back back, is a term used to describe the copious amounts of ExecutiveMeddling that went into the film.



* NeverLiveItDown: The movie's treatment of Deadpool by infamously throwing out nearly everything that made the character what he is. Though a [[Film/{{Deadpool}} far more accurate solo film]] was later released, some people are still shooting daggers at Fox for treating him the way they did here in the first place. In fact, several of those daggers [[BitingTheHandHumor come from the Deadpool movie itself]] (particularly the advertising).
* NoProblemWithLicensedGames: While not a ''brilliant'' game, the video game of the movie is a fun, gory, hack-and-slash with well-working gameplay mechanics, plenty of fanservice, and expanded plot points. In fact, the game seems to be more well-received than the movie it's based off of! (As the developers worked on the also-very-well-received ''XMenLegends'', ''VideoGame/MarvelUltimateAlliance'', the two most recent titles in the Star Wars ''VideoGame/DarkForcesSaga'' and ''Franchise/StarTrek: Elite Force'', this may not actually be surprising.). Ironically, the story of the game works rather well when it's ''not'' trying to follow the plot of the movie.
** Interestingly, it also ends on a cliffhanger/possible sequel hook that is completely unrelated to the film's plot. Ironically, though, it sets up ''Film/XMenDaysOfFuturePast'' fairly well except for the future ContinuitySnarl that is Trask.
* OneSceneWonder: [[spoiler:Patrick Stewart’s cameo]] near the end elicited applause from some theater audiences.

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* NeverLiveItDown: The movie's treatment of Deadpool by infamously throwing out nearly everything that made the character what he is. Though a [[Film/{{Deadpool}} [[Film/{{Deadpool 2016}} far more accurate solo film]] was later released, some people are still shooting daggers at Fox for treating him the way they did here in the first place. In fact, several of those daggers [[BitingTheHandHumor come from the Deadpool movie itself]] (particularly the advertising).
* NoProblemWithLicensedGames: While not a ''brilliant'' game, the video game of the movie is a fun, gory, gory hack-and-slash with well-working gameplay mechanics, plenty of fanservice, and expanded plot points. In fact, the game seems to be more well-received than the movie it's based off of! (As the developers worked on the also-very-well-received ''XMenLegends'', ''VideoGame/XMenLegends'', ''VideoGame/MarvelUltimateAlliance'', the two most recent titles in the Star ''Star Wars ''VideoGame/DarkForcesSaga'' VideoGame/DarkForcesSaga'' and ''Franchise/StarTrek: Elite Force'', this may not actually be surprising.). ) Ironically, the story of the game works rather well when it's ''not'' trying to follow the plot of the movie.
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movie. Interestingly, it also ends on a cliffhanger/possible sequel hook that is completely unrelated to the film's plot. Ironically, though, it sets up ''Film/XMenDaysOfFuturePast'' fairly well except for the future ContinuitySnarl that is Trask.
* OneSceneWonder: [[spoiler:Patrick Stewart’s [[spoiler:Creator/PatrickStewart’s cameo]] near the end elicited applause from some theater audiences.



* SpecialEffectFailure: The effect used to depict Emma Frost's [[TakenForGranite diamond form]] pops out for its low quality. Also, though Wolverine's bone claws were well done, his adamantium claws, particularly in the bathroom scene, inspired much derisive audience laughter. You'd think in a movie explicitly about a mutant with metallic claws, that would get more CGI attention than anything, especially when incarnations in previous films (by the same FX studio, even!) were pretty good quality.

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* SpecialEffectFailure: The effect used to depict Emma Frost's [[TakenForGranite diamond form]] pops out for its low quality. Also, though Wolverine's bone claws were are well done, his adamantium claws, particularly in the bathroom scene, inspired much derisive audience laughter. You'd think in a movie explicitly about a mutant with metallic claws, that would get more CGI attention than anything, especially when incarnations in previous films (by the same FX studio, even!) were pretty good quality.



* TookTheBadFilmSeriously: Just about everyone did this. RyanReynolds and will.i.am in particular stand out, who make the most of their roles as Wade Wilson and Kestral respectively.
* UncannyValley: The film features a cameo of [[spoiler:Professor Xavier]], which uses CGI to de-age him. The problem is, it was less-than-spectacular CGI and it just succeeds in making him look ''really creepy'' -- kinda like Humpty Dumpty.
** The same effect was used in ''X3'' to de-age [[spoiler:both Xavier and Magneto]], but was much better-looking and a lot more convincing.

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* TookTheBadFilmSeriously: Just about everyone did this. RyanReynolds Creator/RyanReynolds and will.i.am in particular stand out, who make making the most of their roles as Wade Wilson and Kestral respectively.
* UncannyValley: The film features a cameo of [[spoiler:Professor Xavier]], which uses CGI to de-age him. The problem is, it was it's less-than-spectacular CGI and it just succeeds in making him look ''really creepy'' -- kinda creepy''--kinda like Humpty Dumpty.
**
Dumpty. The same effect was used in ''X3'' ''Film/XMenTheLastStand'' to de-age [[spoiler:both Xavier and Magneto]], but was much better-looking and a lot more convincing.



* TheWoobie: [[spoiler:Teenaged Cyclops]]. Poor little guy. Awwwwwwww.
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* TheWoobie: [[spoiler:Teenaged Cyclops]]. Poor little guy. Awwwwwwww.
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Awwwwwwww.
16th Mar '16 9:04:16 AM ObsidianFire
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* TheyJustDidntCare: The film's treatment of Deadpool. He's primarily known for his [[DeadpanSnarker snarky attitude]] and general [[GenreSavvy savviness to the world around him]]. Removing BOTH of those traits is so perplexing that one wonders what the filmmakers were thinking in even including him.

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* TheyJustDidntCare: The film's treatment of Deadpool. He's primarily known for his [[DeadpanSnarker snarky attitude]] and general [[GenreSavvy savviness to the world around him]].him. Removing BOTH of those traits is so perplexing that one wonders what the filmmakers were thinking in even including him.
11th Mar '16 10:55:21 AM Cieloazul
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* ContestedSequel: For many, it is a Narm-fest which flies in the face of the other movies' continuity (particularly rewriting a lot of back story from ''Film/X2XMenUnited'', the franchise's peak until ''Film/XMenDaysOfFuturePast''), ruins both Comicbook/{{Gambit}} and SelfDemonstrating/{{Deadpool}}, allows a lot of characters to make stupid decisions in the name of advancing the plot, and all for the sake of making another movie centered on Wolverine when the first three were essentially his show, anyway. For others, the continuity wasn't all that important, Sabretooth was finally given his due with some decent character development, the incorporation of some new mutants was interesting, and the whole thing is a fun action film.

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* ContestedSequel: For many, it is a Narm-fest which flies in the face of the other movies' continuity (particularly rewriting a lot of back story from ''Film/X2XMenUnited'', the franchise's peak until ''Film/XMenDaysOfFuturePast''), ruins both Comicbook/{{Gambit}} and SelfDemonstrating/{{Deadpool}}, SelfDemonstrating/{{Deadpool}} among other characters, allows a lot of characters to make stupid decisions in the name of advancing the plot, and all for the sake of making another movie centered on Wolverine when the first three were essentially his show, anyway. For others, the continuity wasn't all that important, Sabretooth was finally given his due with some decent character development, the incorporation of some new mutants was interesting, and the whole thing is a fun action film.



** Wade Wilson. Not Deadpool, oh no, but critics and fans pretty much unanimously praised Ryan Reynolds as pre-experimented Wade Wilson.
** Despite his short amount of screentime, Gambit has been well-received.

to:

** Wade Wilson. Not Deadpool, oh no, but critics Wilson. Critics and fans pretty much unanimously praised Ryan Reynolds as pre-experimented Wade Wilson.
Wade, and it was what gained Reynolds a shoot in the character's solo film.
** Despite his short amount of screentime, screentime and differences with the character, Taylor Kitsch's portrayal of Gambit has been well-received. was well received. Kitsch himself requested in countless occasions to be cast again in any other ''X-Men'' film, but he wasn't brought back for the oncoming movies, which will feature Channing Tatum.
16th Feb '16 6:54:53 AM SunriseWarrior
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* ContestedSequel[=/=]{{Sequelitis}}: For many, it is a Narm-fest which flies in the face of the other movies' continuity (particularly rewriting a lot of back story from ''Film/X2XMenUnited'', the franchise's peak until ''Film/XMenDaysOfFuturePast''), ruins both Comicbook/{{Gambit}} and SelfDemonstrating/{{Deadpool}}, allows a lot of characters to make stupid decisions in the name of advancing the plot, and all for the sake of making another movie centered on Wolverine when the first 3 were essentially his show, anyway. For others, the continuity wasn't all that important, Sabretooth was finally given his due with some decent character development, the incorporation of some new mutants was interesting, and the whole thing is a fun action film.
** There are also a number of fans who felt that the film was simply a poor rendering of Wolverine's origins that did not capture the true horror and brutality of what the Weapon X program did to him.

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* ContestedSequel[=/=]{{Sequelitis}}: ContestedSequel: For many, it is a Narm-fest which flies in the face of the other movies' continuity (particularly rewriting a lot of back story from ''Film/X2XMenUnited'', the franchise's peak until ''Film/XMenDaysOfFuturePast''), ruins both Comicbook/{{Gambit}} and SelfDemonstrating/{{Deadpool}}, allows a lot of characters to make stupid decisions in the name of advancing the plot, and all for the sake of making another movie centered on Wolverine when the first 3 three were essentially his show, anyway. For others, the continuity wasn't all that important, Sabretooth was finally given his due with some decent character development, the incorporation of some new mutants was interesting, and the whole thing is a fun action film.
** There are also a number of fans who felt that the film was simply a poor rendering of Wolverine's origins that did not capture the true horror and brutality of what the Weapon X program did to him.



* FanonDiscontinuity: There are some that prefer to ignore this movie because it was poorly executed and has a lot of continuity errors with the main series. The two movies that followed even ignored it (although ''Film/TheWolverine'' briefly includes a scene of ''Origins'' in a flashback).



* JustHereForGodzilla: One [[http://www.fisheye.co.il/wolverine/ review]] (sorry folks, it's in Hebrew) claimed that basically, the only reason to watch the film is because it has [[WolverinePublicity Wolverine]] kicking ass--and not even particularly well.

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* JustHereForGodzilla: One [[http://www.fisheye.co.il/wolverine/ review]] (sorry folks, it's in Hebrew) claimed that basically, the only reason to watch the film is because it has [[WolverinePublicity Wolverine]] kicking ass--and not even particularly well.ass.



* OneSceneWonder: [[spoiler:Patrick Stewart’s cameo near the end elicited applause from some theater audiences.]]

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* OneSceneWonder: [[spoiler:Patrick Stewart’s cameo cameo]] near the end elicited applause from some theater audiences.]]



* TheyJustDidntCare: The film's treatment of Deadpool. It honestly does feel like they were ''trying'' to piss the fans off.
** It's made all the more egregious because Deadpool is primarily known for his [[DeadpanSnarker snarky attitude]] and general [[GenreSavvy savviness to the world around him]]. Removing BOTH of those traits is so perplexing that one wonders what the filmmakers were thinking in even including him.
** To call the film's rendering of Wolverine's origin half-hearted would be an understatement.

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* TheyJustDidntCare: The film's treatment of Deadpool. It honestly does feel like they were ''trying'' to piss the fans off.
** It's made all the more egregious because Deadpool is
He's primarily known for his [[DeadpanSnarker snarky attitude]] and general [[GenreSavvy savviness to the world around him]]. Removing BOTH of those traits is so perplexing that one wonders what the filmmakers were thinking in even including him. \n** To call the film's rendering of Wolverine's origin half-hearted would be an understatement.



* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Many fans felt the film did not do justice to Wolverine and the horrors that the Weapon X program inflicted on him.
* TookTheBadFilmSeriously:
** Just about everyone did this, with RyanReynolds and Danny Huston being possible exceptions.
** Reynolds was busy proving that just because you aren't taking the ''film'' seriously, doesn't mean you can't have a blast taking your ''[[{{SelfDemonstrating/Deadpool}} character]]'' [[CrazyAwesome as seriously as he merits]].
** will.i.am as Kestral in particular stands out. His passion for the source material is clear even when though movie is... troubled.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Many fans felt the film did not do justice to Wolverine and the horrors that the Weapon X program inflicted on him.
* TookTheBadFilmSeriously:
**
TookTheBadFilmSeriously: Just about everyone did this, with this. RyanReynolds and Danny Huston being possible exceptions.
** Reynolds was busy proving that just because you aren't taking the ''film'' seriously, doesn't mean you can't have a blast taking your ''[[{{SelfDemonstrating/Deadpool}} character]]'' [[CrazyAwesome as seriously as he merits]].
**
will.i.am as Kestral in particular stands out. His passion for stand out, who make the source material is clear even when though movie is... troubled.most of their roles as Wade Wilson and Kestral respectively.
14th Feb '16 9:24:03 PM Tork
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* NoProblemWithLicensedGames: While not a ''brilliant'' game, the video game of the movie is a fun, gory, hack-and-slash with well-working gameplay mechanics, plenty of fanservice, and expanded plot points. In fact, the game seems to be more well-received than the movie it's based off of! (As the developers worked on the also-very-well-received ''XMenLegends'', ''VideoGame/MarvelUltimateAlliance'', the two most recent titles in the Star Wars ''VideoGame/DarkForcesSaga'' and ''Franchise/StarTrek: Elite Force'', this may not actually be surprising.)
** Interestingly, it also ends on a cliffhanger/possible sequel hook that is completely unrelated to the film's plot.

to:

* NoProblemWithLicensedGames: While not a ''brilliant'' game, the video game of the movie is a fun, gory, hack-and-slash with well-working gameplay mechanics, plenty of fanservice, and expanded plot points. In fact, the game seems to be more well-received than the movie it's based off of! (As the developers worked on the also-very-well-received ''XMenLegends'', ''VideoGame/MarvelUltimateAlliance'', the two most recent titles in the Star Wars ''VideoGame/DarkForcesSaga'' and ''Franchise/StarTrek: Elite Force'', this may not actually be surprising.)
). Ironically, the story of the game works rather well when it's ''not'' trying to follow the plot of the movie.
** Interestingly, it also ends on a cliffhanger/possible sequel hook that is completely unrelated to the film's plot. Ironically, though, it sets up ''Film/XMenDaysOfFuturePast'' fairly well except for the future ContinuitySnarl that is Trask.
13th Feb '16 5:21:17 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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* NeverLiveItDown: The movie's treatment of Deadpool by infamously throwing out nearly everything that made the character what he is. Despite a [[Film/{{Deadpool}} more accurate solo film]] slated to come out, some people are still shooting daggers at Fox for treating him the way they did here in the first place.

to:

* NeverLiveItDown: The movie's treatment of Deadpool by infamously throwing out nearly everything that made the character what he is. Despite Though a [[Film/{{Deadpool}} far more accurate solo film]] slated to come out, was later released, some people are still shooting daggers at Fox for treating him the way they did here in the first place.place. In fact, several of those daggers [[TakeThat come from the Deadpool movie itself]] (particularly the advertising).
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