History YMMV / X1999

20th May '16 8:25:20 AM Cieloazul
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* EndingAversion: A lot of people otherwise interested on the series avoid reading the manga because it has no conclusion and it probably will never have.


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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: The presence of Nokoru Imonoyama and the former Creator/CLAMPSchoolDetectives in the ''X'' canon would have produced some interesting storylines had CLAMP given them a bigger role than mere one-time benefactors. Nokoru's status as the head of the wealthiest family in Japan (and, perhaps more important, their relation to the Magami clan) could have believably have him involved in the conflict in the Dragons of Heaven's behalf, Suoh Takamura would have been a BadassNormal asset, and Akira Ijyuin's role as the master thief 20 Faces would have come handy during the robbed Sacred Sword arc. Instead, they become glorified cameos, and the anime even directly ignores them.
19th May '16 6:27:34 AM Cieloazul
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* AntiClimaxBoss: Fuuma in the film adaptation is [[spoiler:killed]] rather fast, due to the movie's time constraints.

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* AntiClimaxBoss: Fuuma in In the film adaptation adaptation, [[spoiler:Fuuma]] is [[spoiler:killed]] killed rather fast, due to the movie's time constraints.



** Even although most fans prefer the manga and/or anime over the film adaptation, it has its fans due to its grittier, gorgeous animation (some think it is still better than the often OffModel style of the anime), comprised story and emphasis in action (which eliminated the trouble of the KudzuPlot which was quoted as one of the low points of the series) and rotund ending (especially for those who dislike Fuma).

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** Even although most fans prefer the manga and/or anime over the film adaptation, it has its fans due to its grittier, gorgeous animation (some think it is still better than the often OffModel style of the anime), comprised story and emphasis in action (which eliminated the trouble of the KudzuPlot which was quoted as one of the low points of the series) and rotund ending (especially for those who dislike Fuma).Fuuma).



* DeaderThanDisco: The manga once used to be the ''HUGE'' giant of CLAMP, their flagship in a time in which their fleet was still not so large as it would become later. However, due to CLAMP's inability to give the series an ending, its popularity faded away over the years until it got past the point of no return, and the series was forgotten by creators and fans alike in favour of hotter prospects like ''Manga/TsubasaReservoirChronicle'' and ''Manga/{{Xxxholic}}''. Nowadays, few people would read it in case it finally received a conclusion, and even fewer would want it to happen so after knowing the fate of the aforementioned two series.

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* DeaderThanDisco: The manga once used to be the ''HUGE'' giant of CLAMP, their flagship in a time in which when most of their fleet was still not so large as it would become later. biggest series didn't exist yet. However, due to CLAMP's inability to give the series an ending, its popularity faded started to fade away over the years until it got past the point of no return, and the series was forgotten by creators and fans alike in favour of hotter prospects like ''Manga/TsubasaReservoirChronicle'' and ''Manga/{{Xxxholic}}''. Nowadays, few people would read it in case it finally received a conclusion, and even fewer would want it to happen so after knowing the fate of the aforementioned two series.
21st Apr '16 9:33:03 AM Cieloazul
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** Given that ''X/1999'' had been put on hold several times until its official hiatus in 2003 due to mirroring RealLife incidents, some people find it [[TooSoon understandable]]; however, Nanase Ohkawa originally mentioned that they would continue the manga when they have a magazine that is willing to publish it, yet it's already been more than a decade and CLAMP have four works in their table (''[[Manga/TsubasaReservoirChronicle Tsubasa World Chronicle]]'', ''[[Manga/{{Xxxholic}} xxxHolic Rei]]'' and ''[[Manga/LegalDrug Drug and Drop]]'', as well as the new ''Manga/{{Gate7}}'') without news about the series. And after they only moved the schedule to put three of them on hiatus, leaving ''Tsubasa'' as the only running work, ''X/1999'' fans have given up hope that the manga will never return at this point.

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** Given that ''X/1999'' had been put on hold several times until its official hiatus in 2003 due to mirroring RealLife incidents, some people find it [[TooSoon understandable]]; however, Nanase Ohkawa originally mentioned that they would continue the manga when they have a magazine that is willing to publish it, yet it's already been more than a decade and CLAMP have four works in their table (''[[Manga/TsubasaReservoirChronicle Tsubasa World Chronicle]]'', ''[[Manga/{{Xxxholic}} xxxHolic Rei]]'' and ''[[Manga/LegalDrug Drug and Drop]]'', as well as the new newer ''Manga/{{Gate7}}'') without news about the series. And after they only moved the schedule to put three of them on hiatus, leaving ''Tsubasa'' as the only running work, ''X/1999'' fans have given up hope that the manga will never return at this point.



** Yuzuriha, as she basically never wins a battle on-screen.



** Subaru was a Woobie before X even started, having lost his twin sister [[spoiler: at the hands of their best friend / mutual love interest, Seishiro. Yes, HoYay and FoeYay in a single package.]]

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** Subaru was a Woobie before X even started, having lost his twin sister [[spoiler: at the hands of their best friend / mutual love interest, Seishiro. Yes, HoYay and FoeYay in a single package.]]]]
* WTHCastingAgency: In the Spanish dub of the movie, Aleix Estadella as Nataku and Kusanagi was considered an incredibly bizarre cast choice, especially in the second case, as he is known for playing funny bumbling guys and neither of the two is two miles in range to fit this description. He later voiced Sorata in the anime, a much more fitting character, but ''then'' some critized it for supposedly making him sound too silly.
21st Apr '16 9:24:07 AM Cieloazul
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* BaseBreaker: Even although most fans prefer the manga and/or anime over the film adaptation, it has its fans due to its gorgeous animation (it was quite elaborated for its time, and some think it is still better than the often OffModel style of the anime), comprised story and emphasis in action (which eliminated the trouble of the KudzuPlot which was quoted as one of the low points of the series) and rotund ending (especially for those who dislike Fuma).
* BrokenBase: About whether the manga will ever continue or not. Given that the manga had been put on hold several times until its official hiatus in 2003 due to mirroring RealLife incidents, some people find it [[TooSoon understandable]]. Nanase Ohkawa mentioned that they'll continue the manga when they'll have a magazine that is willing to publish it. But it's already been more than a decade and CLAMP have four works in their table ([[Manga/TsubasaReservoirChronicle two]] [[Manga/{{Xxxholic}} previous]] returned after their poorly received endings, [[Manga/LegalDrug one]] returned from a hiatus and [[Manga/{{Gate7}} a new one]] which went into a hiatus again). And since they currently working on ''Tsubasa World Chronicle'' while putting the three works on hiatus, ''X/1999'' fans have given up hope that the manga will never return at this point. And considering some of the negative reception towards some of [[Manga/XxxHolic their]] [[Manga/TsubasaReservoirChronicle newer]] [[Anime/BloodC works]], you have some fans who don't want CLAMP to finish ''X/1999'', thinking that they would only ruin it by following their signature finish style.
* TheChrisCarterEffect: ''Manga/{{X1999}}'' remains on hold since 2003. Nanase Ohkawa, the lead writer of CLAMP, mentioned that they're still looking for a magazine willing to publish the remaining chapters. However, a decade had already passed and CLAMP put [[Manga/{{Gate7}} two]] [[Manga/LegalDrug more]] works on hold to work on ''Tsubasa World Chronicle'', which is a continuation of ''Manga/TsubasaReservoirChronicle'' and ''xxxHolic:Rei'' which is also a semi-continuation of ''Manga/{{Xxxholic}}''. Fans of ''X/1999'' are not pleased with this and doubt that the manga will ever continue at this point.

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* BaseBreaker: BaseBreaker:
** Kamui at first due to being a {{Jerkass}} who avoids contact with anybody. It should be noted that Yuzuriha and Sorata actually understand why he acts like that and Hinoto even reveals that he could actually destroy mankind depending on his development despite her visions of Kamui as messiah figure. Kamui finally becomes more likable when opening up to Kotori.
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Even although most fans prefer the manga and/or anime over the film adaptation, it has its fans due to its grittier, gorgeous animation (it was quite elaborated for its time, and some (some think it is still better than the often OffModel style of the anime), comprised story and emphasis in action (which eliminated the trouble of the KudzuPlot which was quoted as one of the low points of the series) and rotund ending (especially for those who dislike Fuma).
* BrokenBase: About whether the manga will (or should) ever continue or not. not.
**
Given that the manga ''X/1999'' had been put on hold several times until its official hiatus in 2003 due to mirroring RealLife incidents, some people find it [[TooSoon understandable]]. understandable]]; however, Nanase Ohkawa originally mentioned that they'll they would continue the manga when they'll they have a magazine that is willing to publish it. But it, yet it's already been more than a decade and CLAMP have four works in their table ([[Manga/TsubasaReservoirChronicle two]] [[Manga/{{Xxxholic}} previous]] returned (''[[Manga/TsubasaReservoirChronicle Tsubasa World Chronicle]]'', ''[[Manga/{{Xxxholic}} xxxHolic Rei]]'' and ''[[Manga/LegalDrug Drug and Drop]]'', as well as the new ''Manga/{{Gate7}}'') without news about the series. And after their poorly received endings, [[Manga/LegalDrug one]] returned from a hiatus and [[Manga/{{Gate7}} a new one]] which went into a hiatus again). And since they currently working on ''Tsubasa World Chronicle'' while putting only moved the schedule to put three works of them on hiatus, leaving ''Tsubasa'' as the only running work, ''X/1999'' fans have given up hope that the manga will never return at this point. And point.
** The situation is especially unpleasant having in consideration that most fans of ''X/1999'' were unsatisfied enough with the run of the originals ''Tsubasa'' and ''xxxHolic'' to believe that they don't deserve to receive priority for sequels before ''X'' get a freaking conclusion once for all. However, conversely,
considering some of the negative mixed reception towards some of [[Manga/XxxHolic their]] [[Manga/TsubasaReservoirChronicle newer]] [[Anime/BloodC works]], the endings of ''Tsubasa'' and ''xxxHolic'', you have some fans who don't do ''not'' want CLAMP to finish ''X/1999'', thinking that they would only ruin it by following their signature finish style.
* TheChrisCarterEffect: ''Manga/{{X1999}}'' remains on hold since 2003. Nanase Ohkawa,
the lead writer of CLAMP, mentioned that they're still looking for a magazine willing to publish the remaining chapters. However, a decade had already passed and CLAMP put [[Manga/{{Gate7}} two]] [[Manga/LegalDrug more]] works on hold to work on ''Tsubasa World Chronicle'', which is a continuation of ''Manga/TsubasaReservoirChronicle'' and ''xxxHolic:Rei'' which is also a semi-continuation of ''Manga/{{Xxxholic}}''. Fans of ''X/1999'' are not pleased with this and doubt that the manga will ever continue at this point. same ending style.



* DeaderThanDisco: Once used to be the ''HUGE'' giant of CLAMP. However, due to CLAMP's inability to give the series an ending, its hype faded away with the years until it got past the point of no return, and the series was forgotten in favour of hotter prospects like ''Manga/TsubasaReservoirChronicle'' and ''Manga/{{Xxxholic}}''. Nowadays, few people would read it in case it finally received a conclusion, and even fewer would want it to happen so after knowing the fate of the aforementioned two series.
* DesignatedHero: Kamui at first due to being a JerkAss who avoids contact with anybody. It should be noted that Yuzuriha and Sorata actually understand why he acts like that and Hinoto even reveals that he could actually destroy mankind depending on his development despite her visions of Kamui as messiah figure. Kamui finally becomes more likable when opening up to Kotori.

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* DeaderThanDisco: Once The manga once used to be the ''HUGE'' giant of CLAMP. CLAMP, their flagship in a time in which their fleet was still not so large as it would become later. However, due to CLAMP's inability to give the series an ending, its hype popularity faded away with over the years until it got past the point of no return, and the series was forgotten by creators and fans alike in favour of hotter prospects like ''Manga/TsubasaReservoirChronicle'' and ''Manga/{{Xxxholic}}''. Nowadays, few people would read it in case it finally received a conclusion, and even fewer would want it to happen so after knowing the fate of the aforementioned two series.
* DesignatedHero: Kamui at first due to being a JerkAss who avoids contact with anybody. It should be noted that Yuzuriha and Sorata actually understand why he acts like that and Hinoto even reveals that he could actually destroy mankind depending on his development despite her visions of Kamui as messiah figure. Kamui finally becomes more likable when opening up to Kotori.
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** Though they are fanfics of Kamui visiting Yuuko's shop, CLAMP made a short comic of it in ''Clamp in Wonderland EX'' and Mokona jokingly said that the price of Kamui's wish will be the fate of the world and Watanuki scolded him for making Kamui cried. Fuuma appeared later on and declared that he's the only one who can grant his wish. Cue the two fighting again much to Watanuki's chagrin.

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** Though they are fanfics of Kamui visiting Yuuko's shop, CLAMP made a short comic of it in ''Clamp in Wonderland EX'' and in which Mokona jokingly said says that the price of Kamui's wish will be the fate of the world and Watanuki scolded scolds him for making Kamui cried. cry. Fuuma appeared appeares later on and declared declares that he's the only one who can grant his wish. Cue wish; cue the two fighting again much to Watanuki's chagrin.



* LateArrivalSpoiler: Can you guess who will be the main antagonist by checking the cover of a DVD?

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* LateArrivalSpoiler: Can you guess who will be ItWasHisSled: Fuuma becoming the main antagonist is the first thing you will know upon knowing the work. Even worse, you [[LateArrivalSpoiler can actually discover it by simply checking the cover of a DVD?DVD.]]



* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotSymbolic: This is essentially the Gospel According to Ageha. The major alteration from Judeo-Christian eschatology is the dualism, with the two sides evenly matched and only a slim moral advantage on the part of the Dragons of Heaven.

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* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotSymbolic: This is essentially the Gospel According to Ageha.Nanase Ohkawa. The major alteration from Judeo-Christian eschatology is the dualism, with the two sides evenly matched and only a slim moral advantage on the part of the Dragons of Heaven.



** Kamui was HOTLY bashed and loathed by fans for daring to cry and angst over his shitty destiny and [[spoiler: the terrible breaking of his, Kotori and Fuuma's bonds]].

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** Kamui was HOTLY bashed and loathed by fans for daring to cry and angst over his shitty destiny and [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the terrible breaking of his, Kotori and Fuuma's bonds]].
19th Apr '16 9:22:35 AM Cieloazul
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* AntiClimaxBoss: Fuuma in the film adaptation.
* BrokenBase: Whether the manga will ever continue or not. Given that the manga had been put on hold several times until its official hiatus in 2003 due to mirroring RealLife incidents, some people find it [[TooSoon understandable]]. Nanase Ohkawa mentioned that they'll continue the manga when they'll have a magazine that is willing to publish it. But it's already been a decade and CLAMP have four works in their table ([[Manga/TsubasaReservoirChronicle two]] [[Manga/{{Xxxholic}} previous]] returned after their poor endings, [[Manga/LegalDrug one]] returned from a hiatus and [[Manga/{{Gate7}} a new one]] which went into a hiatus again). And since they currently working on ''Tsubasa World Chronicle'' while putting the three works on hiatus, ''X/1999'' fans have given up hope that the manga will never return at this point. And considering some of the negative reception towards some of [[Manga/XxxHolic their]] [[Manga/TsubasaReservoirChronicle newer]] [[Anime/BloodC works]], you have some fans who don't want CLAMP to finish ''X/1999'', thinking that their writing skills have declined and would only ruin it.

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* AntiClimaxBoss: Fuuma in the film adaptation.
adaptation is [[spoiler:killed]] rather fast, due to the movie's time constraints.
* BaseBreaker: Even although most fans prefer the manga and/or anime over the film adaptation, it has its fans due to its gorgeous animation (it was quite elaborated for its time, and some think it is still better than the often OffModel style of the anime), comprised story and emphasis in action (which eliminated the trouble of the KudzuPlot which was quoted as one of the low points of the series) and rotund ending (especially for those who dislike Fuma).
* BrokenBase: Whether About whether the manga will ever continue or not. Given that the manga had been put on hold several times until its official hiatus in 2003 due to mirroring RealLife incidents, some people find it [[TooSoon understandable]]. Nanase Ohkawa mentioned that they'll continue the manga when they'll have a magazine that is willing to publish it. But it's already been more than a decade and CLAMP have four works in their table ([[Manga/TsubasaReservoirChronicle two]] [[Manga/{{Xxxholic}} previous]] returned after their poor poorly received endings, [[Manga/LegalDrug one]] returned from a hiatus and [[Manga/{{Gate7}} a new one]] which went into a hiatus again). And since they currently working on ''Tsubasa World Chronicle'' while putting the three works on hiatus, ''X/1999'' fans have given up hope that the manga will never return at this point. And considering some of the negative reception towards some of [[Manga/XxxHolic their]] [[Manga/TsubasaReservoirChronicle newer]] [[Anime/BloodC works]], you have some fans who don't want CLAMP to finish ''X/1999'', thinking that their writing skills have declined and they would only ruin it.it by following their signature finish style.



** Wow, no mention of [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_W-eEilKDM8 the TV series opening theme]], "ex Dream" by Myuji?

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** Wow, no mention of [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_W-eEilKDM8 the TV series opening theme]], "ex Dream" by Myuji?Myuji.
** Hinoto's theme from the anime.



** The movie version of ''X/1999'' can be this since this was released while the manga was ongoing. The world is about to end as usual but both ended killing each other and dying at the same time. The Dragons of Earth are portrayed as mass murdering assholes which includes Kusanagi, who is known to be TokenGoodTeammate and a FriendToAllLivingThings. The Dragons of Heaven are still the good guys but they are slowly decimated along with the barriers they're protecting, which resulted to entire city completely destroyed with Tokyo Tower left standing. And in the end, [[spoiler:Kamui is forced to kill Fuuma by beheading him which leaves him the only survivor in the cast]]. No wonder most people prefer the TV series and the manga.

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** The movie version of ''X/1999'' can be this since this was released while the manga was ongoing. The world is about to end as usual but both ended killing each other and dying at the same time. The Dragons of Earth are portrayed as mass murdering assholes which includes Kusanagi, who is known to be TokenGoodTeammate and a FriendToAllLivingThings. The Dragons of Heaven are still the good guys but they are slowly decimated along with the barriers they're protecting, which resulted to entire city completely destroyed with Tokyo Tower left standing. And in the end, [[spoiler:Kamui is forced to kill Fuuma by beheading him which leaves him the only survivor in the cast]]. No wonder most people prefer the TV series and the manga.



* DeaderThanDisco: Once used to be the ''HUGE'' giant of CLAMP. However, with the failure of CLAMP's recent works has caused fans to completely abandon the series, fearing that the same would happen to this.

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* DeaderThanDisco: Once used to be the ''HUGE'' giant of CLAMP. However, with the failure of due to CLAMP's recent works has caused fans inability to completely abandon give the series, fearing that series an ending, its hype faded away with the same years until it got past the point of no return, and the series was forgotten in favour of hotter prospects like ''Manga/TsubasaReservoirChronicle'' and ''Manga/{{Xxxholic}}''. Nowadays, few people would read it in case it finally received a conclusion, and even fewer would want it to happen to this.so after knowing the fate of the aforementioned two series.



* {{Wangst}}: Kakyou
30th Jan '16 8:31:45 PM embala
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** [[spoiler:The scene in the anime in which Fuuma carries Kakyou to the Dragons of Earth headquarters]] has, in some circles, become the launcher of a thousand slash fics.
16th Nov '15 7:19:32 PM sayaleviathan
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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: A lot of piano players know about Naoki Sato's sublime LonelyPianoPiece [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhkxSHsb0xM Sadame]] which is Japanese for "Destiny" which is omnipresent in the anime [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NX6qZlQnb1M in its symphonic version.]]

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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: CrowningMusicOfAwesome:
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A lot of piano players know about Naoki Sato's sublime LonelyPianoPiece [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhkxSHsb0xM Sadame]] which is Japanese for "Destiny" which is omnipresent in the anime [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NX6qZlQnb1M in its symphonic version.]]]]
** Wow, no mention of [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_W-eEilKDM8 the TV series opening theme]], "ex Dream" by Myuji?
30th Oct '15 9:47:11 PM vermp12334
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* DeaderThanDisco: Once used to be the ''HUGE'' giant of CLAMP. However, with the failure of CLAMP's recent works has caused fans to completely abandon the series, fearing that the same would happen to this.
24th Oct '15 1:49:25 PM MachRider1985
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** It fits pretty well in shoujo standards, however, considering the storyline's strong focus on emotions and drama. That's very proper of shoujo mangas.



* WhatMeasureIsANonBadass: A lot of fans just ''love'' to bash Kotori for being not only an IllGirl YamatoNadeshiko, but for daring to be emotionally and psychologically damaged after [[spoiler:seeing the birth of the second Shinken]].
** Also, Kamui was [[Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion Shinji Ikari]] before Shinji ever really existed. He was HOTLY bashed and loathed by fans for daring to cry and angst over his shitty destiny and [[spoiler: the terrible breaking of his, Kotori and Fuuma's bonds]].

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* WhatMeasureIsANonBadass: WhatMeasureIsANonBadass:
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A lot of fans just ''love'' to bash Kotori for being not only an IllGirl YamatoNadeshiko, but for daring to be emotionally and psychologically damaged after [[spoiler:seeing the birth of the second Shinken]].
** Also, Kamui was [[Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion Shinji Ikari]] before Shinji ever really existed. He was HOTLY bashed and loathed by fans for daring to cry and angst over his shitty destiny and [[spoiler: the terrible breaking of his, Kotori and Fuuma's bonds]].
5th Oct '15 7:29:32 PM sayaleviathan
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* FanficFuel: They are probably a lot of fanfics which had a lot of ''What If?'' scenarios such as, 'what if Kamui joins the Dragons of Earth instead and Fuuma go to the other side vice-versa'
** Though they are fanfics of Kamui visiting Yuuko's shop, CLAMP made a short comic of it in ''Clamp in Wonderland EX'' and Mokona jokingly said that the price of Kamui's wish will be the fate of the world and Watanuki scolded him for making Kamui cried. Fuuma appeared later on and declared that he's the only one who can grant his wish. Cue the two fighting again much to Watanuki's chagrin.
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