History YMMV / WorldOfTanks

1st Dec '16 9:35:00 PM YoshimitsuMaster
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** When a Type 98 Ke-Ni (Japanese Tier III light tank) dies: "Oh my god, [[WesternAnimation/SouthPark They]] [[TheyKilledKennyAgain killed]] [[JustForPun Ke-Ni]]!

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** When a Type 98 Ke-Ni (Japanese Tier III light tank) dies: "Oh my god, [[WesternAnimation/SouthPark They]] [[TheyKilledKennyAgain killed]] [[JustForPun Ke-Ni]]!Ke-Ni]]!"
1st Dec '16 9:33:47 PM YoshimitsuMaster
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** The extremely rare BT-SV and Panzer II J ''Mammut'' light tanks. Both were only available as part of a limited edition Russian boxset release, which means anyone who wants them now will need to pay an exorbitant amount of real money, which is why they are rare. Another reason they are rare is because they are ridiculously good: the BT-SV is one of the fastest tanks in the game, and has ridiculously well-angled armour all round. The Pz II J is one of the slowest tanks in the game, but has ''more frontal armour than some Tier V heavies''. Both are more than capable of pulling One-Tank Armies; the Pz II J is sometimes known as "the Cockroach" because [[PunctuatedForEmphasis It. Will. Not. Die.]] [[TheJuggernaut Even ''artillery'' can barely scratch it.]] The one weakness of the Pz II J is that its gun is terrible...which means that if both teams have one the only way to win is by capping, since a Pz II J absolutely cannot penetrate its own armour, not even with premium ammo.
** The Waffentrager auf E-100. Has a 4 or 5 round autoloader than can 1 clip most tanks in the game, all with perfect accuracy and almost no recoil. It's supposed to be balanced by no camo and [[GlassCannon armor]], but its 2000 HP allows it to tank shots to the face, especially from Tier 8 tanks. It also has a sizable BrokenBase for being completely made up by Wargaming to fill the line. Not to mention it has a turret that would be unusable in RealLife without the crew dismounting every time it turned. Oh, and somehow manages to have 420 view range (tied for the best available in-game) for being open topped, despite its [[http://www.wotinfo.net/en/noobcorner?article=hitzone_waffentragere100 gun shield completely blocking its view.]] Server stats show it to be completely over-performing in both the hands of baddies and experts. Some Unicums have even denounced it as being too easy to drive. Even after repeated nerfed accuracy, magazine size, and health, most people still find it to be overpowered. Eventually (after a three-year reign of terror) Wargaming decided to just give up on tweaking the WT auf E-100 and decided to have it replaced in patch 9.15.

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** The extremely rare BT-SV and Panzer II J ''Mammut'' light tanks. Both were only available as part of a limited edition Russian boxset release, which means anyone who wants them now will need to pay an exorbitant amount of real money, which is why they are rare. Another reason they are rare is because they are ridiculously good: the BT-SV is one of the fastest tanks in the game, and has ridiculously well-angled armour all round. The Pz II J is one of the slowest tanks in the game, but has ''more frontal armour than some Tier V heavies''. Both are more than capable of pulling One-Tank Armies; the Pz II J is sometimes known as "the Cockroach" because [[PunctuatedForEmphasis It. Will. Not. Die.]] [[TheJuggernaut Even ''artillery'' artillery can barely scratch it.]] The one weakness of the Pz II J is that its gun is terrible...which means that if both teams have one the only way to win is by capping, since a Pz II J absolutely cannot penetrate its own armour, not even with premium ammo.
** The Waffentrager auf E-100. Has a 4 or 5 round autoloader than can 1 clip most tanks in the game, all with perfect accuracy and almost no recoil. It's supposed to be balanced by no camo and [[GlassCannon armor]], but its 2000 HP allows it to tank shots to the face, especially from Tier 8 tanks. It also has a sizable BrokenBase for being completely made up by Wargaming to fill the line. Not to mention it has a turret that would be unusable in RealLife without the crew dismounting every time it turned. Oh, and somehow manages to have 420 view range (tied for the best available in-game) for being open topped, despite its [[http://www.wotinfo.net/en/noobcorner?article=hitzone_waffentragere100 gun shield completely blocking its view.]] Server stats show it to be completely over-performing in both the hands of baddies and experts. Some Unicums have even denounced it as being too easy to drive. Even after repeated repeatedly nerfed accuracy, magazine size, and health, most people still find it to be overpowered. Eventually (after a three-year reign of terror) Wargaming decided to just give up on tweaking the WT auf E-100 and decided to have it replaced in patch 9.15.



** When a Type 98 Ke-Ni (Japanese Tier III light tank) dies: "Oh my god, [[WesternAnimation/SouthPark They]] [[TheyKilledKennyAgain killed]] [[JustForPun Ke-Ni}}!

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** When a Type 98 Ke-Ni (Japanese Tier III light tank) dies: "Oh my god, [[WesternAnimation/SouthPark They]] [[TheyKilledKennyAgain killed]] [[JustForPun Ke-Ni}}!Ke-Ni]]!
1st Dec '16 5:56:55 AM YoshimitsuMaster
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** The American T18, prior to its reclassificastion as an SPG. Simply put, it was a Tier 2 Tank destroyer tank that [[LightningBruiser could hit up to 40+kph]], OneHitKill tanks ABOVE its tier with the 76mm howitzer ''and'' had armour equal to the ''Tier 4'' Tank destroyers.

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** The American T18, prior to its reclassificastion reclassification as an SPG. Simply put, it was a Tier 2 Tank destroyer tank that [[LightningBruiser could hit up to 40+kph]], OneHitKill tanks ABOVE its tier with the 76mm howitzer ''and'' had armour equal to the ''Tier 4'' Tank destroyers.



** The E-25 German premium tank destroyer. Low, fast, with an excellent camo rating and the same [=L/70=] main gun as the [=StuG=] III but which fires a round every three seconds. It's only key weaknesses are low alpha damage and poor penetration, which are largely negated by the insane rate of fire it has. Oh, and did we mention it gets Premium matchmaking too? This only got worse after it was revealed that the E-25 was accidentally modeled to be slightly smaller than it was intended to be in real life. Unfortunately, WG can't increase its size out of fear of community backlash, as doing so would effectively nerf the vehicle..

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** The E-25 German premium tank destroyer. Low, fast, with an excellent camo rating and the same [=L/70=] main gun as the [=StuG=] III but which fires a round every three seconds. It's only key weaknesses are low alpha damage and poor penetration, which are largely negated by the insane rate of fire it has. Oh, and did we mention it gets Premium matchmaking too? This only got worse after it was revealed that the E-25 was accidentally modeled to be slightly smaller than it was intended to be in real life. Unfortunately, WG can't increase its size out of fear of community backlash, as doing so would effectively nerf the vehicle.. They finally gave up on trying to tweak it, and it was removed from the Premium store and in-game store. Only players who had purchased it in the first place can keep it.



** The extremely rare BT-SV and Panzer II J ''Mammut'' light tanks. Both were only available as part of a limited edition Russian boxset release, which means anyone who wants them now will need to pay an exorbitant amount of real money, which is why they are rare. Another reason they are rare is because they are ridiculously good: the BT-SV is one of the fastest tanks in the game, and has ridiculously well-angled armour all round. The Pz II J is one of the slowest tanks in the game, but has ''more frontal armour than some Tier V heavies''. Both are more than capable of pulling One-Tank Armies; the Pz II J is sometimes known as "the Cockroach" because it. Will. Not. Die. Even artillery can barely scratch it. The one weakness of the Pz II J is that its gun is terrible...which means that if both teams have one the only way to win is by capping, since a Pz II J absolutely cannot penetrate its own armour, not even with premium ammo.
** The Waffentrager auf E-100. Has a 4 or 5 round autoloader than can 1 clip most tanks in the game, all with perfect accuracy and almost no recoil. It's supposed to be balanced by no camo and [[GlassCannon armor]], but its 2000 HP allows it to tank shots to the face, especially from Tier 8 tanks. It also has a sizable BrokenBase for being completely made up by Wargaming to fill the line. Not to mention it has a turret that would be unusable in RealLife without the crew dismounting every time it turned. Oh, and somehow manages to have 420 view range (tied for the best available in-game) for being open topped, despite its [[http://www.wotinfo.net/en/noobcorner?article=hitzone_waffentragere100 gun shield completely blocking its view.]] Server stats show it to be completely over-performing in both the hands of baddies and experts. Some Unicums have even denounced it as being too easy mode. Even after repeated nerfed accuracy, magazine size, and health, most people still find it to be overpowered. Eventually (after a three-year reign of terror) Wargaming decided to just give up on tweaking the WT auf E-100 and decided to have replaced in patch 9.15.

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** The extremely rare BT-SV and Panzer II J ''Mammut'' light tanks. Both were only available as part of a limited edition Russian boxset release, which means anyone who wants them now will need to pay an exorbitant amount of real money, which is why they are rare. Another reason they are rare is because they are ridiculously good: the BT-SV is one of the fastest tanks in the game, and has ridiculously well-angled armour all round. The Pz II J is one of the slowest tanks in the game, but has ''more frontal armour than some Tier V heavies''. Both are more than capable of pulling One-Tank Armies; the Pz II J is sometimes known as "the Cockroach" because it.[[PunctuatedForEmphasis It. Will. Not. Die. ]] [[TheJuggernaut Even artillery ''artillery'' can barely scratch it. it.]] The one weakness of the Pz II J is that its gun is terrible...which means that if both teams have one the only way to win is by capping, since a Pz II J absolutely cannot penetrate its own armour, not even with premium ammo.
** The Waffentrager auf E-100. Has a 4 or 5 round autoloader than can 1 clip most tanks in the game, all with perfect accuracy and almost no recoil. It's supposed to be balanced by no camo and [[GlassCannon armor]], but its 2000 HP allows it to tank shots to the face, especially from Tier 8 tanks. It also has a sizable BrokenBase for being completely made up by Wargaming to fill the line. Not to mention it has a turret that would be unusable in RealLife without the crew dismounting every time it turned. Oh, and somehow manages to have 420 view range (tied for the best available in-game) for being open topped, despite its [[http://www.wotinfo.net/en/noobcorner?article=hitzone_waffentragere100 gun shield completely blocking its view.]] Server stats show it to be completely over-performing in both the hands of baddies and experts. Some Unicums have even denounced it as being too easy mode.to drive. Even after repeated nerfed accuracy, magazine size, and health, most people still find it to be overpowered. Eventually (after a three-year reign of terror) Wargaming decided to just give up on tweaking the WT auf E-100 and decided to have it replaced in patch 9.15.
1st Dec '16 5:38:51 AM YoshimitsuMaster
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*** The T18 and the T82 American tank destroyers used to be excellent vehicles; the former is a heavily-armored (For it's tier) vehicle that moves at a decent clip and is armed with a 75mm howitzer that, aside from the terrible reload time, is an absolutely ''monstrous'' weapon that can one-shot many tanks of it's tier; all these combine to make it ''the'' definitive tank for [[MemeticMutation stet pedding]] players (or, as the community puts it, seal-clubbing players). The latter, meanwhile, has absolutely no armor..... but is [[FragileSpeedster extremely fast (owing to it's M3 Stuart chassis)]] [[GlassCannon and has extremely powerful weapons to boot]]; a giant {{BFG 105mm howitzer}} that can overmatch the armor of most of the tanks it faces (or plain one-shotting with powerful HE shells) or a 57mm AT gun that has a high rate of fire, penetration and accuracy, making a well-driven T82 a dangerous opponent. Sadly, they are both now unremarkable Tier 3 and 4 SPG's respectively.

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*** The T18 and the T82 American tank destroyers used to be excellent vehicles; the former is a heavily-armored (For it's tier) vehicle that moves at a decent clip and is armed with a 75mm howitzer that, aside from the terrible reload time, is an absolutely ''monstrous'' weapon that can one-shot many tanks of it's tier; all these combine to make it ''the'' definitive tank for [[MemeticMutation stet pedding]] players (or, as the community puts it, seal-clubbing players). The latter, meanwhile, has absolutely no armor..... but is [[FragileSpeedster extremely fast (owing to it's M3 Stuart chassis)]] [[GlassCannon and has extremely powerful weapons to boot]]; a giant {{BFG [[{{BFG}} 105mm howitzer}} howitzer]] that can overmatch the armor of most of the tanks it faces (or plain one-shotting with powerful HE shells) or a 57mm AT gun that has a high rate of fire, penetration and accuracy, making a well-driven T82 a dangerous opponent. Sadly, they are both now unremarkable Tier 3 and 4 SPG's respectively.
1st Dec '16 5:37:56 AM YoshimitsuMaster
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*** The T18 and the T82 American tank destroyers used to be excellent vehicles; the former is a heavily-armored (For it's tier) vehicle that moves at a decent clip and is armed with a 75mm howitzer that, aside from the terrible reload time, is an absolutely ''monstrous'' weapon that can one-shot many tanks of it's tier; all these combine to make it ''the'' definitive tank for [[MemeticMutation stet pedding]] players (or, as the community puts it, seal-clubbing players). The latter, meanwhile, has absolutely no armor..... but is [[FragileSpeedster extremely fast (owing to it's M3 Stuart chassis)]] [[GlassCannon and has extremely powerful weapons to boot]]; a giant [[BFG 105mm howitzer]] that can overmatch the armor of most of the tanks it faces (or plain one-shotting with powerful HE shells) or a 57mm AT gun that has a high rate of fire, penetration and accuracy, making a well-driven T82 a dangerous opponent. Sadly, they are both now unremarkable Tier 3 and 4 SPG's respectively.
* The American M5 Stuart was well liked for it's 75mm Howitzer, which basically made the tank into an [=M8A1=] GMC. However this was removed, leaving it with a pitiful 37mm autocannon with terrible penetration.

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*** The T18 and the T82 American tank destroyers used to be excellent vehicles; the former is a heavily-armored (For it's tier) vehicle that moves at a decent clip and is armed with a 75mm howitzer that, aside from the terrible reload time, is an absolutely ''monstrous'' weapon that can one-shot many tanks of it's tier; all these combine to make it ''the'' definitive tank for [[MemeticMutation stet pedding]] players (or, as the community puts it, seal-clubbing players). The latter, meanwhile, has absolutely no armor..... but is [[FragileSpeedster extremely fast (owing to it's M3 Stuart chassis)]] [[GlassCannon and has extremely powerful weapons to boot]]; a giant [[BFG {{BFG 105mm howitzer]] howitzer}} that can overmatch the armor of most of the tanks it faces (or plain one-shotting with powerful HE shells) or a 57mm AT gun that has a high rate of fire, penetration and accuracy, making a well-driven T82 a dangerous opponent. Sadly, they are both now unremarkable Tier 3 and 4 SPG's respectively.
* *** The American M5 Stuart was well liked for it's 75mm Howitzer, which basically made the tank into an [=M8A1=] GMC. However this was removed, leaving it with a pitiful 37mm autocannon with terrible penetration.
1st Dec '16 5:36:46 AM YoshimitsuMaster
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** The M18 Hellcat got hit with major nerfs to [[DoNotRunWithAGun firing-on-the-move accuracy]], acceleration, and reverse speed. Make no mistake, it is still a formidable tank destroyer, but it's now unable to act as a pseudo-medium tank.

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** * The American M5 Stuart was well liked for it's 75mm Howitzer, which basically made the tank into an [=M8A1=] GMC. However this was removed, leaving it with a pitiful 37mm autocannon with terrible penetration.
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The M18 Hellcat got hit with major nerfs to [[DoNotRunWithAGun firing-on-the-move accuracy]], acceleration, and reverse speed. Make no mistake, it is still a formidable tank destroyer, but it's now unable to act as a pseudo-medium tank.
1st Dec '16 5:32:13 AM YoshimitsuMaster
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*** The T18 and the T82 American tank destroyers used to be excellent vehicles; the former is a heavily-armored (For it's tier) vehicle that moves at a decent clip and is armed with a 75mm howitzer that, aside from the terrible reload time, is an absolutely ''monstrous'' weapon that can one-shot many tanks of it's tier; all these combine to make it ''the'' definitive tank for [[MemeticMutation stet pedding]] players (or, as the community puts it, seal-clubbing players). The latter, meanwhile, has absolutely no armor..... but is [[FragileSpeedster extremely fast (owing to it's M3 Stuart chassis)]] [[GlassCannon and has extremely powerful weapons to boot; a [[BFG giant 105mm howitzer]] that can overmatch the armor of most of the tanks it faces (or plain one-shotting with powerful HE shells) or a 57mm AT gun that has a high rate of fire, penetration and accuracy, making a well-driven T82 a dangerous opponent. Sadly, they are both now unremarkable Tier 3 and 4 SPG's respectively.

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*** The T18 and the T82 American tank destroyers used to be excellent vehicles; the former is a heavily-armored (For it's tier) vehicle that moves at a decent clip and is armed with a 75mm howitzer that, aside from the terrible reload time, is an absolutely ''monstrous'' weapon that can one-shot many tanks of it's tier; all these combine to make it ''the'' definitive tank for [[MemeticMutation stet pedding]] players (or, as the community puts it, seal-clubbing players). The latter, meanwhile, has absolutely no armor..... but is [[FragileSpeedster extremely fast (owing to it's M3 Stuart chassis)]] [[GlassCannon and has extremely powerful weapons to boot; boot]]; a giant [[BFG giant 105mm howitzer]] that can overmatch the armor of most of the tanks it faces (or plain one-shotting with powerful HE shells) or a 57mm AT gun that has a high rate of fire, penetration and accuracy, making a well-driven T82 a dangerous opponent. Sadly, they are both now unremarkable Tier 3 and 4 SPG's respectively.
1st Dec '16 5:25:03 AM YoshimitsuMaster
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** Even in-game ''tanks'' aren't immune from this:
*** The Marder III tier III German tank destroyer used to be ''the'' dominant Tier III tank destroyer, before receiving repeated nerfs to it's accuracy, gun handling, and ultimately losing the top gun. Now, it's quite unremarkable- aside from being the linchpin for both the Waffentrager line and the case-mate line of German TDs.
*** The T18 and the T82 American tank destroyers used to be excellent vehicles; the former is a heavily-armored (For it's tier) vehicle that moves at a decent clip and is armed with a 75mm howitzer that, aside from the terrible reload time, is an absolutely ''monstrous'' weapon that can one-shot many tanks of it's tier; all these combine to make it ''the'' definitive tank for [[MemeticMutation stet pedding]] players (or, as the community puts it, seal-clubbing players). The latter, meanwhile, has absolutely no armor..... but is [[FragileSpeedster extremely fast (owing to it's M3 Stuart chassis)]] [[GlassCannon and has extremely powerful weapons to boot; a [[BFG giant 105mm howitzer]] that can overmatch the armor of most of the tanks it faces (or plain one-shotting with powerful HE shells) or a 57mm AT gun that has a high rate of fire, penetration and accuracy, making a well-driven T82 a dangerous opponent. Sadly, they are both now unremarkable Tier 3 and 4 SPG's respectively.
** The M18 Hellcat got hit with major nerfs to [[DoNotRunWithAGun firing-on-the-move accuracy]], acceleration, and reverse speed. Make no mistake, it is still a formidable tank destroyer, but it's now unable to act as a pseudo-medium tank.


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** The Churchill Gun Carrier is a very unpopular tank (in terms of opinion and numbers encountered in battle), and for good reason. Apart from it's gun (also one of the guns available on the AT 15 tank destroyer), it is a slow poorly-armored (somehow having less armor than it's parent vehicle, the Churchill I) tank destroyer with terrible gun arc and camo values. To add insult to injury, the crew members are all in the front, making them prone to being injured in battle.
1st Dec '16 4:57:55 AM YoshimitsuMaster
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** The M4 Sherman (and its MovesetClone in the British tree) is very much this trope thanks to being the JackOfAllStats. It can handle many tasks adequately--scouting, flanking, brawling, defending, and sniping--just not as well as tanks better dedicated to those roles. This is both its weakness and its strength: most of the time, it will beat a more specialized vehicle in every way ''except'' for the role that the enemy vehicle specializes in. The challenge of driving the Sherman is not letting enemy vehicles arrange the encounter in such a way that they can employ their specializaton.

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** The M4 Sherman (and its MovesetClone in the British tree) is very much this trope thanks to being the JackOfAllStats.''the'' JackOfAllStats . It can handle many tasks adequately--scouting, flanking, brawling, defending, and sniping--just not as well as tanks better dedicated to those roles. This is both its weakness and its strength: most of the time, it will beat a more specialized vehicle in every way ''except'' for the role that the enemy vehicle specializes in. The challenge of driving the Sherman is not letting enemy vehicles arrange the encounter in such a way that they can employ their specializaton.specializaton.
* JunkRare: Some of the rarer Premium tanks are pretty worthless:
** The German Toldi III has awful gun handling, reload time, and mobility. However, it's not as bad as the.....
** .... British Light Mk [=VIc=]. Slow, no armor, terrible gun without option for premium ammo, and pathetic view range. To make things worse, the [[AlwaysSomeoneBetter T7 Combat Car]], which has a similar machine-gun for armament, was given out for free a few months prior to it's introduction, and is superior in just about every way.
** The GroßTraktor-Krupp is only sold on special occasions. Doesn't mean you should buy one though, because it's a terrible tank inferior in every way to the Panzer IV Ausf. A.



** Many of the Tier 4 tanks are excellent in comparison with the mediocrity of the Tier 3 lineup, but the sheer terribad of the stock Hetzer tank destroyer led to a strong loathing towards the vehicle for many up-and-coming German TD players. It has led to the phrase "Hetzers gonna Hetz" (from the "Haters gonna Hate" meme), which in turn has led to players graduating into the "[=StuG=] life" once they unlock the next tier vehicle, the [=StuG=] III. Nowadays, "Hetzers gonna Hetz" usually refers to when a good Hetzer driver [[MagikarpPower completely obliterates a team with a fully upgraded Hetzer]], particularly the [[{{BFG}} "Derp Hetzer"]] variant with the 10.5 cm Howitzer (complete with the Hetzer user going "hezhezhez...")

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** Many of the Tier 4 tanks are excellent in comparison with the mediocrity of the Tier 3 lineup, but the sheer terribad bad performance of the stock Hetzer tank destroyer led to a strong loathing towards the vehicle for many up-and-coming German TD players. It has led to the phrase "Hetzers gonna Hetz" (from the "Haters gonna Hate" meme), which in turn has led to players graduating into the "[=StuG=] life" once they unlock the next tier vehicle, the [=StuG=] III. Nowadays, "Hetzers gonna Hetz" usually refers to when a good Hetzer driver [[MagikarpPower completely obliterates a team with a fully upgraded Hetzer]], particularly the [[{{BFG}} "Derp Hetzer"]] variant with the 10.5 cm Howitzer (complete with the Hetzer user going "hezhezhez...")


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** When a Type 98 Ke-Ni (Japanese Tier III light tank) dies: "Oh my god, [[WesternAnimation/SouthPark They]] [[TheyKilledKennyAgain killed]] [[JustForPun Ke-Ni}}!
24th Oct '16 1:25:07 AM CelPrevXXVI
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** Many of the Tier 4 tanks are excellent in comparison with the mediocrity of the Tier 3 lineup, but the sheer terribad of the stock Hetzer tank destroyer led to a strong loathing towards the vehicle for many up-and-coming German TD players. It has led to the phrase "Hetzers gonna Hetz" (from the "Haters gonna Hate" meme), which in turn has led to players graduating into the "[=StuG=] life" once they unlock the next tier vehicle, the [=StuG=] III. Nowadays, "Hetzers gonna Hetz" usually refers to when a good Hetzer driver [[MagikarpPower completely obliterates a team with a fully upgraded Hetzer]], particularly the [[{{BFG}}"Derp Hetzer"]] variant with the 10.5 cm Howitzer (complete with the Hetzer user going "hezhezhez...")

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** Many of the Tier 4 tanks are excellent in comparison with the mediocrity of the Tier 3 lineup, but the sheer terribad of the stock Hetzer tank destroyer led to a strong loathing towards the vehicle for many up-and-coming German TD players. It has led to the phrase "Hetzers gonna Hetz" (from the "Haters gonna Hate" meme), which in turn has led to players graduating into the "[=StuG=] life" once they unlock the next tier vehicle, the [=StuG=] III. Nowadays, "Hetzers gonna Hetz" usually refers to when a good Hetzer driver [[MagikarpPower completely obliterates a team with a fully upgraded Hetzer]], particularly the [[{{BFG}}"Derp [[{{BFG}} "Derp Hetzer"]] variant with the 10.5 cm Howitzer (complete with the Hetzer user going "hezhezhez...")
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