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** The overworld theme "Lone Bird in the Shire" - made twice as cool after realizing that its also a ShoutOut to Film/TheGoodTheBadAndTheUgly (specifically, the very suitably epic "The Ecstasy of Gold" by none other than ''EnnioMorricone'').

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** The overworld theme "Lone Bird in the Shire" - made twice as cool after realizing that its also a ShoutOut to Film/TheGoodTheBadAndTheUgly (specifically, the very suitably epic "The Ecstasy of Gold" by none other than ''EnnioMorricone'').''Music/EnnioMorricone'').
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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: The remake has too many to list, but three that stand out are "War Demon" (Boomerang's theme), "Destruction of All Creation" (Mother's theme) and "Windward Birds" ([[spoiler:Zeik Tuvai]]'s theme)

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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: The remake has too many to list, but three that stand out are "War Demon" (Boomerang's theme), "Destruction of All Creation" (Mother's theme) theme), and "Windward Birds" ([[spoiler:Zeik Tuvai]]'s theme)



* IronWoobie: Bartholomew. In both versions he survives a plane crash that he was forced into flying against his will and also survives a shipwreck. The latter is much worse in the remake.

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* IronWoobie: Bartholomew. In both versions versions, he survives a plane crash that he was forced into flying against his will and also survives a shipwreck. The latter is much worse in the remake.
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** the overworld theme "Lone Bird in the Shire" - made twice as cool after realizing that its also a ShoutOut to Film/TheGoodTheBadAndTheUgly (specifically, the very suitably epic "The Ecstasy of Gold" by none other than ''EnnioMorricone'')

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** the The overworld theme "Lone Bird in the Shire" - made twice as cool after realizing that its also a ShoutOut to Film/TheGoodTheBadAndTheUgly (specifically, the very suitably epic "The Ecstasy of Gold" by none other than ''EnnioMorricone'')''EnnioMorricone'').



** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vv1y8DIXEKM&hd=1 Adlehyde Castle]] from the original

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** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vv1y8DIXEKM&hd=1 Adlehyde Castle]] from the originaloriginal.
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* CompleteMonster: Let's be honest here, Alhazad is the most depraved villain in the game besides Mother.

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* CompleteMonster: Let's be honest here, Alhazad is arranged several inhabitants of a town to be abducted so he could test his parasite that [[BodyHorror horrifically mutates any living thing into a mindless monster]] then sends the most depraved villain mutated citizens back to their town so they could slaughter everyone except a young, blind girl (who only survived because [[PetTheDog Zed protected her and took her under his wing]]. He then threatened to let the same parasite, which he now affectionately calls the "Demon Seed", loose on a village almost entirely inhabited by ''orphaned children'' unless the party hands over a MacGuffin. He also manages to infect both a young Wanderer and a puppy with the Demon Seed, forcing the party to kill them both. Finally, [[spoiler:it turns out that he's the one who turned Lady Harkan into a Demon. Not because he was ordered to, but because he had a [[{{Squick}} fondness]] for her]]. Even the resident [[OmnicidalManiac omnicidal]] EldritchAbomination was less vile then Alhazad in that at least she did what she did because [[BecauseDestinySaysSo she believed destroying stuff was her destined role in the game besides Mother.cosmos]]. Alhazad did all those atrocities [[ForTheEvulz for the lulz]].
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* BittersweetEnding: [[spoiler:The demons are defeated, but Asgard sacrifices himself to save the party from the destruction of TheVeryDefinitelyFinalDungeon. Also, while it's stated Filgaia will eventually recover, it'll definitely be a long, slow process. Oh, and Arctica is still in shambles.]]



* {{Expy}}: This might be a bit of a stretch, but it's something to think about. Jane is a {{Badass}} ActionGirl adventurer with a male [[BodyguardingABadass guardian]] who wields a sword. She's brash, foul-tempered, and comes off as a little selfish, [[FriendToAllChildren but has a soft spot for kids]]. She also has an older sister who is said to be even more Badass than she is, but we never actually meet her. Sounds a little like [[{{Slayers}} Lina Inverse]], does she not?
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* ScrappyMechanic: Instead of learning Fast Draw techniques right away, Jack instead learns Fast Draw "hints" in the original game. He then has to use the technique repeatedly until he actually learns it (using an unlearned technique causes him to just use a normal attack.) This unfortunately leads to a lot of grinding, as learning a Fast Draw can take dozens upon dozens of usages of the unlearned technique. Fortunately, the system for learning Fast Draws was changed in the remake.
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* {{Expy}}: This might be a bit of a stretch, but it's something to think about. Jane is a {{Badass}} ActionGirl adventurer with a male [[BodyguardingABadass guardian]]. She's brash, foul-tempered, and comes off as a little selfish, [[FriendToAllChildren but has a soft spot for kids]]. She also has an older sister who is said to be even more Badass than she is, but we never actually meet her. Sounds a little like [[{{Slayers}} Lina Inverse]], does she not?

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* {{Expy}}: This might be a bit of a stretch, but it's something to think about. Jane is a {{Badass}} ActionGirl adventurer with a male [[BodyguardingABadass guardian]].guardian]] who wields a sword. She's brash, foul-tempered, and comes off as a little selfish, [[FriendToAllChildren but has a soft spot for kids]]. She also has an older sister who is said to be even more Badass than she is, but we never actually meet her. Sounds a little like [[{{Slayers}} Lina Inverse]], does she not?
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* {{Expy}}: This might be a bit of a stretch, but it's something to think about. Jane is a {{Badass}} ActionGirl adventurer with a male [[BodyguardingABadass guardian]]. She's brash, foul-tempered, and comes off as a little selfish, [[FriendToAllChildren but has a soft spot for kids]]. She also has an older sister who is said to be even more Badass than she is, but we never actually meet her. Sounds a little like [[{{Slayers}} Lina Inverse]], does she not?
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* AlasPoorVillain: [[spoiler:Lady Harken]]
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* DemonicSpiders: Raidbusters. Normally, they'd be easy to take care of, only having lots of HP and an above-average strength on their side. But they attack at a point in the game when the party is split up, and always attack in pairs (plus sometimes they'll arrive with a Gremlin who can lower your defense. Jack will have less trouble, since he can just one-shot one of them with Meteor Dive, but Rudy and Cecilia will be in for a world of hurt.
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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: The remake has too many to list, but three that stand out are "War Demon" (Boomerang's theme), "Destruction of All Creation" (Mother's theme) and "Windward Birds" ([[spoiler:Zeik Tuvai's]] theme)
** the overworld theme "Lone Bird in the Shire" - made twice as cool after realizing that its also a ShoutOut to TheGoodTheBadAndTheUgly (specifically, the very suitably epic "The Ecstasy of Gold" by none other than ''EnnioMorricone'')

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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: The remake has too many to list, but three that stand out are "War Demon" (Boomerang's theme), "Destruction of All Creation" (Mother's theme) and "Windward Birds" ([[spoiler:Zeik Tuvai's]] Tuvai]]'s theme)
** ** the overworld theme "Lone Bird in the Shire" - made twice as cool after realizing that its also a ShoutOut to TheGoodTheBadAndTheUgly Film/TheGoodTheBadAndTheUgly (specifically, the very suitably epic "The Ecstasy of Gold" by none other than ''EnnioMorricone'')



* NightmareFuel: Pretty much anything involving Mother. A fleshy pulsating thing, she's an OmnicidalManiac who wanders the cosmos consuming countless star systems (making her a proto-[[FinalFantasyVII Jenova]]). By far the creepiest scene with her is when [[spoiler: Zeikfried is teleported to the destroyed Photosphere as the result of falling into a black hole. only to find the ''veiny, slug-like remnance of Mother'' that proceeds to '''''rear up and consume him'' while cooing about how much she loves him, accompanied by sickening crunching noises.''']]

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* NightmareFuel: Pretty much anything involving Mother. A fleshy pulsating thing, she's an OmnicidalManiac who wanders the cosmos consuming countless star systems (making her a proto-[[FinalFantasyVII proto-[[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII Jenova]]). By far the creepiest scene with her is when [[spoiler: Zeikfried is teleported to the destroyed Photosphere as the result of falling into a black hole. only to find the ''veiny, slug-like remnance of Mother'' that proceeds to '''''rear up and consume him'' while cooing about how much she loves him, accompanied by sickening crunching noises.''']] ''']]



* TheyJustDidntCare: Many have accused the localization of the remake to be an example.

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* HighOctaneNightmareFuel: Pretty much anything involving Mother. A fleshy pulsating thing, she's an OmnicidalManiac who wanders the cosmos consuming countless star systems (making her a proto-[[FinalFantasyVII Jenova]]). By far the creepiest scene with her is when [[spoiler: Zeikfried is teleported to the destroyed Photosphere as the result of falling into a black hole. only to find the ''veiny, slug-like remnance of Mother'' that proceeds to '''''rear up and consume him'' while cooing about how much she loves him, accompanied by sickening crunching noises.''']]
** Not to mention [[spoiler:Alhazad's true form. Or his special "Demon Seed" parasite that ''painfully turns living things into monsters.'']] Made ''worse'' in ''Alter Code F''. In the original, [[spoiler:we only see a dog transform from the Demon Seed, and its instantaneous.]] Here though, [[spoiler:we get to see the Wanderer who was helping Jane's town scream and convulse in pain before finally transforming.]] Brr...


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* NightmareFuel: Pretty much anything involving Mother. A fleshy pulsating thing, she's an OmnicidalManiac who wanders the cosmos consuming countless star systems (making her a proto-[[FinalFantasyVII Jenova]]). By far the creepiest scene with her is when [[spoiler: Zeikfried is teleported to the destroyed Photosphere as the result of falling into a black hole. only to find the ''veiny, slug-like remnance of Mother'' that proceeds to '''''rear up and consume him'' while cooing about how much she loves him, accompanied by sickening crunching noises.''']]
** Not to mention [[spoiler:Alhazad's true form. Or his special "Demon Seed" parasite that ''painfully turns living things into monsters.'']] Made ''worse'' in ''Alter Code F''. In the original, [[spoiler:we only see a dog transform from the Demon Seed, and its instantaneous.]] Here though, [[spoiler:we get to see the Wanderer who was helping Jane's town scream and convulse in pain before finally transforming.]] Brr...
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** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vv1y8DIXEKM&hd=1 Adlehyde Castle]] from the original
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* LauncherOfAThousandShips: Rudy! ''WildArms5'' even pokes fun at this by having a sidequest where you resolve a love quadrilateral between him, Jane, Cecilia, and Mariel.

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* LauncherOfAThousandShips: Rudy! ''WildArms5'' ''VideoGame/WildArms5'' even pokes fun at this by having a sidequest where you resolve a love quadrilateral between him, Jane, Cecilia, and Mariel.
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** For some [[{{YourMileageMayVary}} YMMV]], but the overworld theme "Lone Bird in the Shire" - made twice as cool after realizing that its also a ShoutOut to TheGoodTheBadAndTheUgly (specifically, the very suitably epic "The Ecstasy of Gold" by none other than ''EnnioMorricone'')

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** For some [[{{YourMileageMayVary}} YMMV]], but ** the overworld theme "Lone Bird in the Shire" - made twice as cool after realizing that its also a ShoutOut to TheGoodTheBadAndTheUgly (specifically, the very suitably epic "The Ecstasy of Gold" by none other than ''EnnioMorricone'')



* TheyJustDidntCare: Many have accused the localization of the remake to be an example. Whether or not it is is [[YourMileageMayVary a matter of debate]].

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* TheUntwist: It becomes obvious that [[spoiler:Jack is Garrett]] ''long'' before the "big reveal" actually happens.


* ChaoticEvil: ''Mother''
* ChaoticGood: Jack and Jane.
* ChaoticNeutral: Boomerang and Lucied



* LawfulEvil: Ziekfried, Alhazad and Lady Harken
* LawfulGood: Cecilia
* LawfulNeutral: Jack in the beginning.



* NeutralGood: Rudy. Jack becomes this after his CharacterDevelopment.
* NeutralEvil: Berserk and Zed.
** Of course, thanks to the remake, [[spoiler:the latter could easily fall under ChaoticGood by the game's end]].
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** The Opening theme: [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hlv8I4g7TWs&fmt=18 Into the Wilderness]] is one of this troper's favorite songs of ALL TIME. So Amazing.
** The Remake Alter Code F has some awesome songs as well. [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKrS9Tp0zj8&fmt=18 Adlehyde Castle Town]] and [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHEniRCsAu0&fmt=18 Puzzle]] are two of the best.

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** The Opening theme: [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hlv8I4g7TWs&fmt=18 com/watch?v=Hlv8I4g7TWs&hd=1 Into the Wilderness]] is one of this troper's favorite songs of ALL TIME. So Amazing.
** The Remake Alter Code F has some awesome songs as well. [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKrS9Tp0zj8&fmt=18 com/watch?v=J6Djkbb8N_A&hd=1 Adlehyde Castle Town]] and [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHEniRCsAu0&fmt=18 com/watch?v=sHEniRCsAu0&hd=1 Puzzle]] are two of the best.
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** The Remake Alter Code F has some awesome songs as well. [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKrS9Tp0zj8&fmt=18 Adlehyde Castle Town]] and [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHEniRCsAu0&fmt=18 Puzzle]] are two of the best.
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** The Opening theme: [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hlv8I4g7TWs&fmt=18 Into the Wilderness]] is one of this troper's favorite songs of ALL TIME. So Amazing.
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** Play through the game until the Volcannon Trap mission, which is when Jane joins you. Go fight Rat Monkeys at the beginning areas and have her steal MP Repair skills from them. Not only do they sell for a whopping 999,999 gella (ONE will pretty much take care of your money problems for the whole game, even including the 600,000 gella required to completely rebuild Adlehyde), but the skill itself restores MP as you walk, which is insanely helpful for characters like Jack, who has very little MP and very expensive special attacks (until they're leveled up anyway).

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** Play through the game until the Volcannon Trap mission, which is when Jane temporarily joins you. Go fight Rat Monkeys at the beginning areas and have her steal MP Repair skills from them. Not only do they sell for a whopping 999,999 gella (ONE will pretty much take care of your money problems for the whole game, even including the 600,000 gella required to completely rebuild Adlehyde), but the skill itself restores MP as you walk, which is insanely helpful for characters like Jack, who has very little MP and very expensive special attacks (until they're leveled up anyway).
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** Play through the game until the Volcannon Trap mission, which is when Jane joins you. Go fight Rat Monkeys at the beginning areas and have her steal MP Repair skills from them. Not only do they sell for a whopping 999,999 gella (ONE will pretty much take care of your money problems for the whole game, even including the 600,000 gella required to completely rebuild Adlehyde), but the skill itself restores MP as you walk, which is insanely helpful for characters like Jack, who has very little MP and very expensive special attacks (until they're leveled up anyway).
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* {{Narm}}: This one line by Lady Harken to Jack in the original, which was removed in the remake:
-->''You use Fast Draw? Ha! Looks more like '''Fat''' Draw to me.''
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* GameBreaker: Rudy gets his Gatling Raid cartridge a little more than 1/3 into the game. Use with 18 bullets and every non-optional boss in the game goes down in one turn. Combine with Lock-On Active and its auto reload for pure bullet spam.

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* GameBreaker: In the remake, Rudy gets his Gatling Raid cartridge a little more than 1/3 into the game. Use with 18 bullets and every non-optional boss in the game goes down in one turn. Combine with Lock-On Active and its auto reload for pure bullet spam.
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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: The remake has too many to list, but three that stand out are "War Demon" (Boomerang's theme), "Destruction of All Creation" (Mother's theme) and "Windward Birds" ([[spoiler:Zeik Tuvai's]] theme)
** For some [[{{YourMileageMayVary}} YMMV]], but the overworld theme "Lone Bird in the Shire" - made twice as cool after realizing that its also a ShoutOut to TheGoodTheBadAndTheUgly (specifically, the very suitably epic "The Ecstasy of Gold" by none other than ''EnnioMorricone'')
* EnsembleDarkHorse: Boomerang. So much.


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* IronWoobie: Bartholomew. In both versions he survives a plane crash that he was forced into flying against his will and also survives a shipwreck. The latter is much worse in the remake.


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* LawfulEvil: Ziekfried, Alhazad and Lady Harken
* LawfulGood: Cecilia
* LawfulNeutral: Jack in the beginning.


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* NeutralGood: Rudy. Jack becomes this after his CharacterDevelopment.
* NeutralEvil: Berserk and Zed.
** Of course, thanks to the remake, [[spoiler:the latter could easily fall under ChaoticGood by the game's end]].
* PlayerPunch: [[spoiler:The revelation of Lady Harken's true identity.]]


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* TheWoobie: You have no soul if you don't want to just give Mariel a hug when she looks out of her door at the party when they first meet her in ACF.
** Same goes for her portrait when she becomes a temporary party member.
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* ChaoticEvil: ''Mother''
* ChaoticGood: Jack and Jane.
* ChaoticNeutral: Boomerang and Lucied

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* HighOctaneNightmareFuel: Pretty much anything involving Mother. A fleshy pulsating thing, she's an OmnicidalManiac who wanders the cosmos consuming countless star systems (making her a proto-[[FinalFantasyVII Jenova]]). By far the creepiest scene with her is when [[spoiler: Zeikfried is teleported to the destroyed Photosphere as the result of falling into a black hole]].
* MoralEventHorizon: [[spoiler:Alhazad turning an entire town's population (save one blind girl) into monsters, and attempting to do the same thing to Jane's town. Keep in mind that the majority of her town's population are ''orphaned children''.]], only to find the ''veiny, slug-like remnance of Mother'' that proceeds to '''''rear up and consume him'' while cooing about how much she loves him, accompanied by sickening crunching noises.''']]

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* HighOctaneNightmareFuel: Pretty much anything involving Mother. A fleshy pulsating thing, she's an OmnicidalManiac who wanders the cosmos consuming countless star systems (making her a proto-[[FinalFantasyVII Jenova]]). By far the creepiest scene with her is when [[spoiler: Zeikfried is teleported to the destroyed Photosphere as the result of falling into a black hole]].
* MoralEventHorizon: [[spoiler:Alhazad turning an entire town's population (save one blind girl) into monsters, and attempting to do the same thing to Jane's town. Keep in mind that the majority of her town's population are ''orphaned children''.]],
hole. only to find the ''veiny, slug-like remnance of Mother'' that proceeds to '''''rear up and consume him'' while cooing about how much she loves him, accompanied by sickening crunching noises.''']]
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* HighOctaneNightmareFuel: Pretty much anything involving Mother. A fleshy pulsating thing, she's an OmnicidalManiac who wanders the cosmos consuming countless star systems (making her a proto-[[FinalFantasyVII Jenova]]). By far the creepiest scene with her is when [[spoiler: Zeikfried is teleported to the destroyed Photosphere as the result of falling into a black hole.

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* HighOctaneNightmareFuel: Pretty much anything involving Mother. A fleshy pulsating thing, she's an OmnicidalManiac who wanders the cosmos consuming countless star systems (making her a proto-[[FinalFantasyVII Jenova]]). By far the creepiest scene with her is when [[spoiler: Zeikfried is teleported to the destroyed Photosphere as the result of falling into a black hole.hole]].

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* HighOctaneNightmareFuel: Pretty much anything involving Mother. A fleshy pulsating thing, she's an OmnicidalManiac who wanders the cosmos consuming countless star systems (making her a proto-[[FinalFantasyVII Jenova]]). By far the creepiest scene with her is when [[spoiler: Zeikfried is teleported to the destroyed Photosphere as the result of falling into a black hol* MoralEventHorizon: [[spoiler:Alhazad turning an entire town's population (save one blind girl) into monsters, and attempting to do the same thing to Jane's town. Keep in mind that the majority of her town's population are ''orphaned children''.]], only to find the ''veiny, slug-like remnance of Mother'' that proceeds to '''''rear up and consume him'' while cooing about how much she loves him, accompanied by sickening crunching noises.''']]

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* HighOctaneNightmareFuel: Pretty much anything involving Mother. A fleshy pulsating thing, she's an OmnicidalManiac who wanders the cosmos consuming countless star systems (making her a proto-[[FinalFantasyVII Jenova]]). By far the creepiest scene with her is when [[spoiler: Zeikfried is teleported to the destroyed Photosphere as the result of falling into a black hol* hole.
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MoralEventHorizon: [[spoiler:Alhazad turning an entire town's population (save one blind girl) into monsters, and attempting to do the same thing to Jane's town. Keep in mind that the majority of her town's population are ''orphaned children''.]], only to find the ''veiny, slug-like remnance of Mother'' that proceeds to '''''rear up and consume him'' while cooing about how much she loves him, accompanied by sickening crunching noises.''']]

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