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took out a rather unfair bit. They go in front of the whaling ships with small boat EVERY year. this isn\'t any different.
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** The latest promos indicate that the Sea Shepherds have every intention of doing their very best to force the whalers to kill them this season, including this time ''blatantly'' putting themselves right in the ships' paths (much like they did with their trimaran). That's right... they intend to sacrifice human lives basically for PR purposes to make the whalers look like murderers. Note that the captain talking about this sacrifice seems to have no intention of putting himself or ''his'' boat in their way, though.
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** The latest promos indicate that the Sea Shepherds have every intention of doing their very best to force the whalers to kill them this season, including this time ''blatantly'' putting themselves right in the ships' paths (much like they did with their trimaran). That's right... they intend to sacrifice human lives basically for PR purposes to make the whalers look like murderers. Note that the captain talking about this sacrifice seems to have no intention of putting himself or ''his'' boat in their way, though.
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** And what is more, virtually every episode of season five has them taking increasingly great risks and taking advantage of their government, including putting activists on to Shonan Maru who are somehow not Sea Shepherd despite ''being officially brought in to work for them.'' It does not help that the Whalers have taken a '''huge''' level in badass and cunning this season.
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* RootingForTheEmpire: A somewhat literal case (given the fact that Japan is still technically an Empire), as you won't have to go long to find a few hundred pro-Japanese sites that are practically ([[VocalMinority and occasionally literally]]) screaming for the blood of those on the Steve Irwin.
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* RootingForTheEmpire: A somewhat literal case (given the fact that Japan is still technically an Empire), as you won't have to go long to find a few hundred pro-Japanese sites that are practically ([[VocalMinority and occasionally literally]]) screaming for the blood of those on the Steve Irwin. Even more with the Norse whalers since they are doing subsistence hunting, thus not in for profit or killing whales for Lulz.
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* RootingForTheEmpire: A somewhat literal case (given the fact that Japan is still technically an Empire), as you won't have to go long to find a few hundred pro-Japanese sites that are practically[[VocalMinority ( and occasionally literally)]] screaming for the blood of those on the Steve Irwin.
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* RootingForTheEmpire: A somewhat literal case (given the fact that Japan is still technically an Empire), as you won't have to go long to find a few hundred pro-Japanese sites that are practically[[VocalMinority ( practically ([[VocalMinority and occasionally literally)]] literally]]) screaming for the blood of those on the Steve Irwin.
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Well - alternate ''show'' interpretation, really. Much like shows such as ''My Super Sweet Sixteen'', it's not entirely clear whether the programme was made to glorify the people it stars, or whether it keeps its tongue firmly in its cheek, casts a knowing glance at the audience and mouths, "Look how psychotic these folk are!"
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Well - alternate ''show'' interpretation, really. Much like shows such as ''My Super Sweet Sixteen'', it's not entirely clear whether the programme program was made to glorify the people it stars, or whether it keeps its tongue firmly in its cheek, casts a knowing glance at the audience and mouths, "Look how psychotic these folk are!" are!"
** The ''Viking Shores'' previews even had Nordic whalers angrily asking the crew "Who's going to feed this nation? You?" to point out that some of the whale hunting done is done for reasons people are more likely approve of--namely, ''feeding people.''
** The ''Viking Shores'' previews even had Nordic whalers angrily asking the crew "Who's going to feed this nation? You?" to point out that some of the whale hunting done is done for reasons people are more likely approve of--namely, ''feeding people.''
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** The fact that diplomacy hasnt hasn't done much dosnt doesn't help it's case.
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** The latest promos indicate that the Sea Shepherds have every intention of doing their very best to force the whalers to kill them this season, including this time ''blatantly'' putting themselves right in the ships' paths (much like they did with their trimaran). That's right... they intend to sacrifice human lives basically for PR purposes to make the whalers look like murderers. Note that the captain talking about this sacrifice seems to have no intention of putting himself or ''his'' boat in their way, though.
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* RootingForTheEmpire: A somewhat literal case (given the fact that Japan is still technically an Empire), as you won't have to go long to find a few hundred pro-Japanese sites that practically are screaming for the blood of those on the Steve Irwin.
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* RootingForTheEmpire: A somewhat literal case (given the fact that Japan is still technically an Empire), as you won't have to go long to find a few hundred pro-Japanese sites that practically are practically[[VocalMinority ( and occasionally literally)]] screaming for the blood of those on the Steve Irwin.
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Objective trope, not YMMV
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* ThereAreNoRules: Both the Sea Shepherds, and the whalers they hunt, are in international waters. While both sides do things that are against international law (hunting whales vs. endangering whaling ships), neither side can be held accountable, because there is no law enforcement in international waters apart from "gunboat diplomacy".
** Anyone can hunt pirates though, and many of the Sea Shepards' tactics are at best borderline piracy.
** Anyone can hunt pirates though, and many of the Sea Shepards' tactics are at best borderline piracy.
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* SnarkBait: Another interpretation of the show, attracting viewers amused by the crews' bungling and MoralMyopia.
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* SnarkBait: Another interpretation of the show, attracting viewers amused by the crews' bungling and MoralMyopia.bungling.
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* CompleteMonster: A frequent accusation. Whether it is accurate- and if so, to whom- is a major YMMV.
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* MoralEventHorizon: Both sides have it -- Paul Watson exploiting the search for a man who fell overboard in the Whaling Fleet by attempting to hunt down the vessels and actively hinder their recovery attempts. And recently, the Fleet ''may'' have crossed the MEH with the (possibly, see EpicFail above) intentional ramming of the ''Ady Gil'', which if weren't for the prompting by the ''Bob Barker'', would have turned tail and ''ran''.
** Completely intentional on the part of Sea Shepherd. On that note, the water cannons and siren seem more like a "GET AWAY YOU ARE GOING TO HIT US" than a malicious act.
*** Also, after the "collision", they blast the inside with a water canon. whichever side your on, you know that was malicious. And [[MagnificentBastard delicious]].
** A crewman has since admitted that the Andy Gil was deliberately wrecked against the whaler to garner sympathy and make the whalers look worse. Though, that particular crewman had just been kicked out of Sea Shepherd for bringing a weapon on the campaing, and he's the only one to have said anything, so that's dubious.
** Completely intentional on the part of Sea Shepherd. On that note, the water cannons and siren seem more like a "GET AWAY YOU ARE GOING TO HIT US" than a malicious act.
*** Also, after the "collision", they blast the inside with a water canon. whichever side your on, you know that was malicious. And [[MagnificentBastard delicious]].
** A crewman has since admitted that the Andy Gil was deliberately wrecked against the whaler to garner sympathy and make the whalers look worse. Though, that particular crewman had just been kicked out of Sea Shepherd for bringing a weapon on the campaing, and he's the only one to have said anything, so that's dubious.
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* MoralEventHorizon: Both sides have it-Paul Watson exploiting the search for a man who fell overboard in the Whaling Fleet by attempting to hunt down the vessels and actively hinder their recovery attempts. And recently, the Fleet ''may'' have crossed the MEH with the (possibly, see EpicFail above) intentional ramming of the ''Ady Gil'', which if weren't for the prompting by the ''Bob Barker'', would have turned tail and ''ran''.
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* MoralEventHorizon: Both sides have it-Paul it -- Paul Watson exploiting the search for a man who fell overboard in the Whaling Fleet by attempting to hunt down the vessels and actively hinder their recovery attempts. And recently, the Fleet ''may'' have crossed the MEH with the (possibly, see EpicFail above) intentional ramming of the ''Ady Gil'', which if weren't for the prompting by the ''Bob Barker'', would have turned tail and ''ran''.
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*** Also, after the "collision", they blast the inside with a water canon. whichever side your on, you know that was malicious.
**** And [[MagnificentBastard delicious]].
** A crewman has since admitted that the Andy Gil was deliberately wrecked against the whaler to garner sympathy and make the whalers look worse.
*** That particular crewman had just been kicked out of Sea Shepherd for bringing an Weapon on the campaing, and he's the only one to have said anything. so YMMV how trustyworthy he is.
**** And [[MagnificentBastard delicious]].
** A crewman has since admitted that the Andy Gil was deliberately wrecked against the whaler to garner sympathy and make the whalers look worse.
*** That particular crewman had just been kicked out of Sea Shepherd for bringing an Weapon on the campaing, and he's the only one to have said anything. so YMMV how trustyworthy he is.
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*** Also, after the "collision", they blast the inside with a water canon. whichever side your on, you know that was malicious.
****malicious. And [[MagnificentBastard delicious]].
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* UnfortunateImplications: Due to the fact that the last 2 seasons of Whale Wars shows the SSCS harassing the Japanese whalers, it would probably lead, or has led, to a fair amount of people seeing the SSCS as a group of anti-Japanese racists. But on the other side of the same coin, it could also lead, or has led, people to think that the Japanese are underhanded sneaks using [[PaperThinDisguise science]] as an excuse to harvest whales in a wildlife sanctuary.
** And let's not forget the interesting fact that they're going only after Japanese whaling craft, instead of, say, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aboriginal_whaling the Aboriginal fleets.]]
** Lending weight to the side viewing the SSCS as being anti-Japanese, apparently the SSCS at one point wanted to shift their attention to boats doing a lot of fishing of non-endangered fish... said fishing trawlers were also "coincidentally" Japanese. This was apparently discarded, most likely because [[WhatMeasureIsANonCute people like whales but don't care about fish]] and [[VillainWithGoodPublicity not as many people would watch a show called "Fish Wars"]].
*** You've got that mixxed up my fellow troper. Those were European and african trawlers that sold there catch to Japan. They also fight the Canadian Sealers. The main reason they fight Japan so much is Japan as a whole [[Understatement likes seafood]] Sea shepherd is a sea-based Enviornmental protection...group. Its like Fire monsters and Ice monsters living near each other. Also, they DO go after aboriginal fleets. but They have to choose between saving 3 whales from natives and several thousands from an entire fleet.
* YourMileageMayVary: Either this show is a brilliant and exciting show that promotes the protection of whales, or it's a pretentious environmentalist series that glorifies ecoterrorism and any AnimalWrongsGroup. Or shows how ''not'' to go about it by depicting said AnimalWrongsGroup as blundering morons, [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation as mentioned above]]. Or, according to ''SouthPark'', is just a publicity vehicle for Paul Watson.
** And let's not forget the interesting fact that they're going only after Japanese whaling craft, instead of, say, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aboriginal_whaling the Aboriginal fleets.]]
** Lending weight to the side viewing the SSCS as being anti-Japanese, apparently the SSCS at one point wanted to shift their attention to boats doing a lot of fishing of non-endangered fish... said fishing trawlers were also "coincidentally" Japanese. This was apparently discarded, most likely because [[WhatMeasureIsANonCute people like whales but don't care about fish]] and [[VillainWithGoodPublicity not as many people would watch a show called "Fish Wars"]].
*** You've got that mixxed up my fellow troper. Those were European and african trawlers that sold there catch to Japan. They also fight the Canadian Sealers. The main reason they fight Japan so much is Japan as a whole [[Understatement likes seafood]] Sea shepherd is a sea-based Enviornmental protection...group. Its like Fire monsters and Ice monsters living near each other. Also, they DO go after aboriginal fleets. but They have to choose between saving 3 whales from natives and several thousands from an entire fleet.
* YourMileageMayVary: Either this show is a brilliant and exciting show that promotes the protection of whales, or it's a pretentious environmentalist series that glorifies ecoterrorism and any AnimalWrongsGroup. Or shows how ''not'' to go about it by depicting said AnimalWrongsGroup as blundering morons, [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation as mentioned above]]. Or, according to ''SouthPark'', is just a publicity vehicle for Paul Watson.
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* UnfortunateImplications: Due to the fact that the last 2 seasons of Whale Wars shows the SSCS harassing the Japanese whalers, it would probably lead, or has led, to a fair amount of people seeing the SSCS as a group of anti-Japanese racists. But on the other side of the same coin, it could also lead, or has led, people to think that the Japanese are underhanded sneaks using [[PaperThinDisguise science]] as an excuse to harvest whales in a wildlife sanctuary.
** And let's not forget the interesting fact that they're going only after Japanese whaling craft, instead of, say, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aboriginal_whaling the Aboriginal fleets.]]
** Lending weight to the side viewing the SSCS as being anti-Japanese, apparently the SSCS at one point wanted to shift their attention to boats doing a lot of fishing of non-endangered fish... said fishing trawlers were also "coincidentally" Japanese. This was apparently discarded, most likely because [[WhatMeasureIsANonCute people like whales but don't care about fish]] and [[VillainWithGoodPublicity not as many people would watch a show called "Fish Wars"]].
*** You've got that mixxed up my fellow troper. Those were European and african trawlers that sold there catch to Japan. They also fight the Canadian Sealers.sanctuary. The main reason they why the SSCS fight Japan so much compared to other countries is that Japan as a whole [[Understatement likes seafood]] Sea shepherd is seafood, which kind of goes against the SSCS's status as a sea-based Enviornmental protection...group. Its like Fire monsters and Ice monsters living near each other. Also, they DO go after aboriginal fleets. but They have to choose between saving 3 whales from natives and several thousands from an entire fleet.Sea-based environmental group.
* YourMileageMayVary: Either this show is a brilliant and exciting show that promotes the protection of whales, or it's a pretentious environmentalist series that glorifies ecoterrorism and any AnimalWrongsGroup. Or shows how ''not'' to go about it by depicting said AnimalWrongsGroup as blundering morons, [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation as mentioned above]]. Or, according to ''SouthPark'', is just a publicity vehicle for Paul Watson.----
** And let's not forget the interesting fact that they're going only after Japanese whaling craft, instead of, say, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aboriginal_whaling the Aboriginal fleets.]]
** Lending weight to the side viewing the SSCS as being anti-Japanese, apparently the SSCS at one point wanted to shift their attention to boats doing a lot of fishing of non-endangered fish... said fishing trawlers were also "coincidentally" Japanese. This was apparently discarded, most likely because [[WhatMeasureIsANonCute people like whales but don't care about fish]] and [[VillainWithGoodPublicity not as many people would watch a show called "Fish Wars"]].
*** You've got that mixxed up my fellow troper. Those were European and african trawlers that sold there catch to Japan. They also fight the Canadian Sealers.
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*** You've got that mixxed up my fellow troper. Those were European and african trawlers that sold there catch to Japan. They also fight the Canadian Sealers. The main reason they fight Japan so much is Japan as a whole [[Understatement likes seafood]] Sea shepherd is a sea-based Enviornmental protection...group. Its like Fire monsters and Ice monsters living near each other.
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*** You've got that mixxed up my fellow troper. Those were European and african trawlers that sold there catch to Japan. They also fight the Canadian Sealers. The main reason they fight Japan so much is Japan as a whole [[Understatement likes seafood]] Sea shepherd is a sea-based Enviornmental protection...group. Its like Fire monsters and Ice monsters living near each other. Also, they DO go after aboriginal fleets. but They have to choose between saving 3 whales from natives and several thousands from an entire fleet.
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*** You've got that mixxed up my fellow troper. Those were European and african trawlers that sold there catch to Japan. They also fight the Canadian Sealers. The main reason they fight Japan so much is Japan as a whole [[Understatement likes seafood]] Sea shepherd is a sea-based Enviornmental protection...group. Its like Fire monsters and Ice monsters living near each other.
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**Anyone can hunt pirates though, and many of the Sea Shepards' tactics are at best borderline piracy.
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* MoralEventHorizon: Both sides have it-Paul Watson exploiting the search for a man who fell overboard in the Whaling Fleet by attempting to hunt down the vessels.vessels and actively hinder their recovery attempts. And recently, the Fleet ''may'' have crossed the MEH with the (possibly, see EpicFail above) intentional ramming of the ''Ady Gil'', which if weren't for the prompting by the ''Bob Barker'', would have turned tail and ''ran''. Given how they tried to blow crewmembers off the tiny vessel with water cannons both before ''and'' after, it was completely intentional.
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**** And [[MagnificentBastard delicious]].
** A crewman has since admitted that the Andy Gil was deliberately wrecked against the whaler to garner sympathy and make the whalers look worse.
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** Lending weight to the side viewing the SSCS as being anti-Japanese, apparently the SSCS at one point wanted to shift their attention to boats doing a lot of fishing of non-endangered fish... said fishing trawlers were also "coincidentally" Japanese. This was apparently discarded, most likely because [[WhatMeasureIsANonCute people like whales but don't care about fish]] and [[VillainWithGoodPublicity not as many people would watch a show called "Fish Wars"]].
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*** [[Sarcasm mode]] RIIIIIGGGGHHHHHTTTT]] I will take it upon myself to invite you both to look at there Other Campaigns. Like the galapagos(not Japanese), Iceland(not Japanese) Aboriginals(not Japanese), mnay of whch arnt even anti wahling campaigns. http://www.seashepherd.org/campaigns/ and also http://www.seashepherd.org/whales/whaling-around-the-world.html
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** The fact that diplomacy hasnt done much dosnt help it's case.
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** Completely intentional on the part of Sea Shepherd. On that note, the water cannons and siren seem more like a "GET AWAY YOU ARE GOING TO HIT US" than a malicious act.
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*** [[Sarcasm mode]] RIIIIIGGGGHHHHHTTTT]] I will take it upon myself to invite you both to look at there Other Campaigns. Like the galapagos(not Japanese), Iceland(not Japanese) Aboriginals(not Japanese), mnay of whch arnt even anti wahling campaigns. http://www.seashepherd.org/campaigns/ and also http://www.seashepherd.org/whales/whaling-around-the-world.html
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** Completely intentional on the part of Sea Shepherd. On that note, the water cannons and siren seem more like a "GET AWAY YOU ARE GOING TO HIT US" than a malicious act.
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Well - alternate ''show'' interpretation, really. Much like shows such as ''My Super Sweet Sixteen'', it's not entirely clear whether the programme was made to glorify the people it stars, or whether it keeps its tongue firmly in its cheek, casts a knowing glance at the audience and mouths, "Look how crazy these folk are!"
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Well - alternate ''show'' interpretation, really. Much like shows such as ''My Super Sweet Sixteen'', it's not entirely clear whether the programme was made to glorify the people it stars, or whether it keeps its tongue firmly in its cheek, casts a knowing glance at the audience and mouths, "Look how crazy psychotic these folk are!"
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** And let's not forget the interesting fact that they're going only after Japanese whaling craft, instead of, say, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aboriginal_whaling the Aboriginal fleets.]]
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* FamilyUnfriendlyAesop / WarpedAesop: This show seems to give the message that, instead of using diplomacy and enforcing regulations on whale hunting, having a hack team of environmentalists using violent and controversial means is more effective.
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** Actually, Pete Bethune, captain of the ''Ady Gil'', admitted that Watson instructed him to take one for the team and get rammed by the ship. Then afterward, Watson forced him to leave the ship behind, simply because it would be more dramatic if the ''Ady Gil'' sank in action.
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* YourMileageMayVary: Either this show is a brilliant and exciting show that promotes the protection of whales, or it's a pretentious environmentalist series that glorifies ecoterrorism and any AnimalWrongsGroup. Or shows how ''not'' to go about it by depicting said AnimalWrongsGroup as blundering morons, [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation as mentioned above]].
** Or, according to ''SouthPark'', is just a publicity vehicle for Paul Watson.
** Or, according to ''SouthPark'', is just a publicity vehicle for Paul Watson.
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** Actually, Pete Bethune, captain of the ''Ady Gil'', admitted that Watson instructed him to take one for the team and get rammed by the ship. Then afterward, Watson forced him to leave the ship behind, simply because it would be more dramatic if the ''Ady Gil'' sank in action.