History YMMV / UnderSiege

23rd Sep '16 12:34:23 AM Michael_McManus
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* ValuesResonance: Krill calling Ryback a faggot in 1992 was s pretty standard affront to the latter's masculinity. Today it makes Krill into a full-blown PoliticallyIncorrectVillain.
20th Sep '16 10:36:39 PM Michael_McManus
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Jordan. Not just for the FanService, but also for being a GenreSavvy ActionSurvior who [[TookALevelInBadass takes a level in badass]].
* EvilIsCool: William Strannix and Commander Krill, primarily because of Creator/TommyLeeJones and Creator/GaryBusey [[EvilIsHammy hamming it up like beasts]], but also for providing a competent challenge for Ryback.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Jordan. Not just for the FanService, but also for being a GenreSavvy ActionSurvior who [[TookALevelInBadass takes a level in badass]].
* EvilIsCool: William Strannix and Commander Krill, primarily because of Creator/TommyLeeJones and Creator/GaryBusey [[EvilIsHammy hamming it up like beasts]], but also for providing a competent challenge for Ryback. Leonard Maltin hilariously described them as [[StealthInsult "better villains than the film deserves."]]
20th Sep '16 10:16:04 PM Michael_McManus
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* BestKnownForTheFanservice: Quite literally in this case. The scene where Erika Eleniak pops out of a giant cake while topless is one of the most-remembered scenes from the first film.

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* BestKnownForTheFanservice: Quite literally in this case. The scene where Erika Eleniak pops out of a giant cake while topless is one of the most-remembered scenes from the first film.



* EnsembleDarkhorse: Jordan. Not just for the FanService, but also for being a GenreSavvy DeadpanSnarker who [[TookALevelInBadass takes a level in badass]].

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Jordan. Not just for the FanService, but also for being a GenreSavvy DeadpanSnarker ActionSurvior who [[TookALevelInBadass takes a level in badass]].



* GodModeSue: At ''no'' point does it ever look like Ryback is in trouble, and yet it's still remarkably subdued compared to Seagal's usual characters - Ryback is far less respected than the standard Seagal protagonist, for starters. The hostages are supporting cast are usually in a lot more danger, so the movies still manage to have some tension.
11th Sep '16 6:50:58 AM Michael_McManus
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Jordan. Not just for the FanService, but also for getting some of the film's best lines and growing from TheLoad to ActionGirl.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Jordan. Not just for the FanService, but also for getting some of the film's best lines and growing from TheLoad to ActionGirl.being a GenreSavvy DeadpanSnarker who [[TookALevelInBadass takes a level in badass]].
11th Sep '16 6:48:47 AM Michael_McManus
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Jordan. Not just for the FanService, but also for getting some of the film's best lines and growing from TheLoad to ActionGirl.
4th Feb '16 10:11:12 PM HarryLovesHermione
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* SpecialEffectsFailure: It's pretty obvious [[spoiler: Strannix's]] body when he is killed is a dummy.
3rd Sep '15 4:15:07 PM TellAll111
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** Krill drowning his crew his both [[MoralEventHorizon despicable]] and [[EvilIsPetty petty]] given that his reasoning is "They never liked me anyway." But the moment is made hilarious when Daumer replies:
--> I bet they fucking love you now, eh?
* EvilIsCool: William Strannix and Commander Krill, primarily because of Creator/TommyLeeJones and Creator/GaryBusey [[EvilIsHammy hamming it up like beasts]], but also for providing a competent challenge for Ryback.
24th Mar '15 5:44:23 PM Tyk5919
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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: Many of Casey Ryback's improvised actions count as these, including but not limited to blowing up a Chinook using paint thinner and blowing up the submarine with a little help from his friends. Also Ryback kissing Jordan when he's asked to "show us some moves" by his crew.
* CrowningMomentOfFunny: Krill in a dress and makeup, asking Strannix if he needs psychological help, to which Strannix shakes his head.
* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: Ryback working with his mates, and their sadness over the deaths of some of their number. Also Ryback's DueToTheDead moment, taking a few moments to cover the captain's body in a show of respect to his murdered friend even with the situation around him still dire.


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* {{Squick}}: Ryback [[spoiler:crushing Strannix's eye with his thumb, complete with oozing sludge]].
24th Mar '15 10:24:37 AM Morgenthaler
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* BoringInvincibleHero: A common complaint for the films is that, unlike Bruce Willis in ''DieHard'', Seagal's Ryback disposes of everyone -- mooks, TheDragon, TheBigBad -- without breaking a sweat or losing the cool facade, which tends to suck out some of the potential drama or excitement.
24th Mar '15 10:04:32 AM Morgenthaler
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* CrowningMomentOfFunny:
** Krill in a dress and makeup, asking Strannix if he needs psychological help, to which Strannix shakes his head.
** And in the second film, Travis Dane using the backdrop of the Eiffel Tower for his threat video.

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* CrowningMomentOfFunny:
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CrowningMomentOfFunny: Krill in a dress and makeup, asking Strannix if he needs psychological help, to which Strannix shakes his head.
** And in the second film, Travis Dane using the backdrop of the Eiffel Tower for his threat video.
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* {{Narm}}: Penn's SayMyName in the second film: "'''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyXAk_M0LsQ RAAAAH RYBACK!!!]]'''"
** Now used in {{Website/Botchamania}} to introduce some good ol' {{Ryback}} botching.
* RetroactiveRecognition: A young [[GreysAnatomy Katherine Heigl]] as Ryback's niece (and DistressedDamsel) in the sequel.



* VisualEffectsOfAwesome: Just like BestKnownForTheFanservice above, the spectacular train crash is '''THE''' most-remembered scene from the second film.
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