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* ArcFatigue: Many felt that the ''Double Trouble'' Doc Ock/Kraven the Hunter arc ran too long. For newer readers, this can be applied to the entire series: Creator/BrianBendis's SignatureStyle of decompressed storytelling, while new and groundbreaking when the series debuted (to the point of being copied and imitated by just about everyone in the following decade), has since come under greater scrutiny from the comic reading public, if not [[OnceOriginalNowOverdone fallen out of favor completely]]. As such, many of the storylines can come off as slow or padded by modern standards.

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* ArcFatigue: Many felt that the ''Double Trouble'' Doc Ock/Kraven the Hunter arc ran too long. For newer readers, this can be applied to the entire series: Creator/BrianBendis's SignatureStyle of decompressed storytelling, while new and groundbreaking when the series debuted (to the point of being copied and imitated by just about everyone in the following decade), has since come under greater scrutiny from the comic reading public, if not [[OnceOriginalNowOverdone [[OnceOriginalNowCommon fallen out of favor completely]].completely by how common it was]]. As such, many of the storylines can come off as slow or padded by modern standards.

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** In issue #40, Peter calls the event company he used to wrestle for and poses as an executive from Hasbro offering to make action figures based on their wrestlers, only to be told the company already has a merchandising deal with Toy Biz. About three years after the issue was published, Toy Biz itself would go belly-up, leading to the famed Marvel Legends action figure line jumping ship... to Hasbro.



** In one of the first issues, a photo can be seen that shows a young Peter with his aunt and uncle at Disney World. This was ''many years'' before Disney actually purchased Creator/MarvelComics.
** In the ''Spider-Man and his Amazing Friends'' arc, Johnny Storm tries to make small talk and asks the others if they've seen the movie ''Film/BillyMadison'' and Peter [[PopculturalOsmosisFailure asks]] [[Film/BillyElliot "About the boy who dances?"]] [[DontExplainTheJoke (he confused it with Billy Elliot)]] Guess [[Creator/TomHolland who ended up playing Spider-Man in the]] Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse?

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** In one of the first issues, a photo can be seen that shows a young Peter with his aunt and uncle at Disney World. This was ''many years'' years before Disney actually purchased Creator/MarvelComics.
** In the ''Spider-Man and his Amazing Friends'' arc, Johnny Storm tries to make small talk and asks the others if they've seen the movie ''Film/BillyMadison'' and Peter [[PopculturalOsmosisFailure asks]] [[Film/BillyElliot "About the boy who dances?"]] The joke being [[DontExplainTheJoke (he Peter confused it with Billy Elliot)]] Guess Elliot.]] About a year later, one of the replacements for the title role of the West End musical production of ''Billy Elliot'' would be a young boy by the name of [[Creator/TomHolland who ended up playing Spider-Man in the]] Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse?Tom]] [[Film/SpiderManHomeTrilogy Holland]].
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** Doctor Octopus getting turned into Mageto-lite, by giving him magnetic powers was another divisive change.



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* ArcFatigue: Many felt that the ''Double Trouble'' Doc Ock/Kraven the Hunter arc ran too long. For newer readers, this can be applied to the entire series: Creator/BrianBendis's SignatureStyle of decompressed storytelling, while new and groundbreaking when the series debuted (to the point of being copied and imitated by just about everyone in the following decade), has since come under greater scrutiny from the comic reading public, if not [[SeinfeldIsUnfunny fallen out of favor completely]]. As such, many of the storylines can come off as slow or padded by modern standards.

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* ArcFatigue: Many felt that the ''Double Trouble'' Doc Ock/Kraven the Hunter arc ran too long. For newer readers, this can be applied to the entire series: Creator/BrianBendis's SignatureStyle of decompressed storytelling, while new and groundbreaking when the series debuted (to the point of being copied and imitated by just about everyone in the following decade), has since come under greater scrutiny from the comic reading public, if not [[SeinfeldIsUnfunny [[OnceOriginalNowOverdone fallen out of favor completely]]. As such, many of the storylines can come off as slow or padded by modern standards.
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** In issue #88, Kitty Pryde tells Peter that it's not the time to tell the big secret to aunt May. He asks "When will it be time? When a SWAT team comes baring through my ceiling and arrest me?". Let's fast forward and check what was going on when did May discovered the truth... OhCrap.

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** In issue #88, Kitty Pryde tells Peter that it's not the time to tell the big secret to aunt May. He asks "When will it be time? When a SWAT team comes baring through my ceiling and arrest me?". Let's fast forward and check what was going on when May finally did May discovered discover the truth... OhCrap.

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* TheScrappy: Ultimate Deadpool had one appearance as a mutant-hating cyborg that tries to kill Spider-Man and the X-Men on live TV. Not only is this ''nothing at all'' like the mainstream Deadpool, the total lack of fourth-wall jokes and a snarkier attitude had fans dismiss this interpretation as a one-note, generic version of the popular anti-hero.



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* {{Anvilicious}}: Rather than showing the GenderBentAlternateUniverse has a reverse dynamic through more subtle methods, the show opts for using very overt person-to-person sexism to demonstrate this is a matriarchal world. Whether they had some fairly outdated misunderstandings about how descrimination in general, thought they had to speak in overly reductive terms to reach a younger audience, or were just strapped for time works in unclear. ...Very Weird Episode.
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* Anvilicious: Rather than showing the GenderBentAlternateUniverse has a reverse dynamic through more subtle methods, the show opts for using very overt person-to-person sexism to demonstrate this is a matriarchal world. Whether they had some fairly outdated misunderstandings about how descrimination in general, thought they had to speak in overly reductive terms to reach a younger audience, or were just strapped for time works in unclear. ...Very Weird Episode.

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* Anvilicious: {{Anvilicious}}: Rather than showing the GenderBentAlternateUniverse has a reverse dynamic through more subtle methods, the show opts for using very overt person-to-person sexism to demonstrate this is a matriarchal world. Whether they had some fairly outdated misunderstandings about how descrimination in general, thought they had to speak in overly reductive terms to reach a younger audience, or were just strapped for time works in unclear. ...Very Weird Episode.
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Seriously, wtf was that nonsense? It felt like I took a time machine back to my childhood. Yeesh.

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* Anvilicious: Rather than showing the GenderBentAlternateUniverse has a reverse dynamic through more subtle methods, the show opts for using very overt person-to-person sexism to demonstrate this is a matriarchal world. Whether they had some fairly outdated misunderstandings about how descrimination in general, thought they had to speak in overly reductive terms to reach a younger audience, or were just strapped for time works in unclear. ...Very Weird Episode.

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* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: Averted, considering the one involved is ''the title character''. Though eventually [[spoiler:both Gwen Stacy and Peter came BackFromTheDead anyway]].



** Played straight with the transition from ''Ultimate Spider-Man'' to ''Ultimate Comics: Spider-Man''. The change of artist and the shake-up of the status quo has resulted in a more BrokenBase. The second transition to an ''entirely new main character'' was less so.

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** Played straight with the The transition from ''Ultimate Spider-Man'' to ''Ultimate Comics: Spider-Man''. The change of artist and the shake-up of the status quo has resulted in a more BrokenBase. The second transition to an ''entirely new main character'' was less so.
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* HoYay: Apparently Miles and Ganke gave this off to Miles' parents...not that they mind. Doubles as MistakenForGay.
-->'''Jefferson''' [after talking with Miles about his relationship with [[spoiler:Kate Bishop]]]: Good to hear. For a while there I thought you and the Gankster had a thing going. \\
'''Miles''': What?! \\
'''Jefferson''': Frankly, your mother thought that years before--\\
'''Miles''': Mom thought that Ganke and I were...'''together'''?\\
'''Jefferson''': Nothing wrong with--\\
'''Miles''': Ew.



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* FanficFuel: In the first issue, Parker tosses away the spider after being bitten... and it lands on the chest of Mary Jane. Just one more second, and it could have bitten her as well.

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** Jessica Drew is easily one of these, having minimal screen-time but a huge fanbase.
** Kong.
** Miles' supporting cast is getting popular, such as Ganke and Rio Morales.

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** Jessica Drew is easily one of these, having has minimal screen-time but a huge fanbase.
** Kong.
** Miles' supporting cast is getting popular, such as Ganke and Rio Morales.
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* SignatureScene: Quite a bit:
** As always, [[spoiler:Uncle Ben's death]].
** Spider-Man's first confrontation and victory over Kingpin particularly when he figures out how to bust him, and when he claims victory by making fat jokes at him by literally reading it off a list.
** Issue 13, "Confessions", where Peter tells MJ his identity and they immediately become a couple is considered the single best issue of the entire run.
** The Ultimate Clone Saga, especially when Spider-Woman unmasks to reveal Jessica Drew as Peter's female clone making it awkward for both of them.
** In the final issues of the "Ultimatum" tie in, where Manhattan has flooded many multi-story buildings and entire high-windowed offices become aquariums, the scene where Jonah gazes out the window to see Spider-Man dive in underwater and save people is quite memorable.
** The Death of Spider-Man of course has many scenes, but special ones include Peter TakingTheBullet for Captain America with Steve cradling him and insisting that he will be "the best one of us all" and [[spoiler:the ShoutOut to ''ComicBook/TheDeathOfSuperman'' where MJ holds Peter's dead body]].
** From "Ultimate Fallout", Miles Morales' grand debut, complete with many people saying his outfit is "in bad taste" and then unmasking to reveal his face, confirming that yes a new star is born.
* TearJerker: The first ''Fallout'' issue is this for pretty much every page.



* TooCoolToLive:
** Uncle Ben
** [[spoiler:Peter Parker]]
** [[spoiler:Rio Morales]]
*** Though [[spoiler:in the latter two cases, they actually did come back.]]

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** [[spoiler:Peter Parker]]
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*** Though [[spoiler:in the latter two cases, they actually did come back.]]
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* TheWoobie:
** Shadowcat in ''Ultimate Comics: Spider-Man''.
** And, as always, Peter. By the end of the Ultimate Clone Saga arc, everyone wanted to give that kid a hug.
** Mary-Jane Watson on a regular basis, especially with her crazy father interfering with her and Peter's relationship in "Cats and Queens"
** Miles Morales is no slouch either having the usual chaos of being Spider-Man to deal with along with trying to live up to the world's expectations of him as the second Spider-Man of Earth 1610. [[spoiler: His uncle dying while trying to turn Miles into a crook and later Miles mother Rio getting killed by Venom traumatizes Miles so much he quits being Spider-Man for a full year!]]

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TheWoobie: Miles Morales has the usual chaos of being Spider-Man while also trying to live up to the world's expectations of him as the second Spider-Man of Earth 1610. [[spoiler: His uncle dying while trying to turn Miles into a crook and later Miles' mother Rio getting killed by Venom traumatizes Miles so much he quits being Spider-Man for a full year!]]
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** And, as always, %%** Peter. By the end of the Ultimate Clone Saga arc, everyone wanted to give that kid a hug.
** %%** Mary-Jane Watson on a regular basis, especially with her crazy father interfering with her and Peter's relationship in "Cats and Queens"
** Miles Morales is no slouch either having the usual chaos of being Spider-Man to deal with along with trying to live up to the world's expectations of him as the second Spider-Man of Earth 1610. [[spoiler: His uncle dying while trying to turn Miles into a crook and later Miles mother Rio getting killed by Venom traumatizes Miles so much he quits being Spider-Man for a full year!]]
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** This was actually the second attempt by Marvel to reboot Spider-Man after the DorkAge of ComicBook/TheCloneSaga. The first one was ''ComicBook/SpiderManChapterOne'' (in 1998-1999, about a year before this one) but it was poorly received and was nowhere near the success of Ultimate Spider-Man, mostly because it was a remake of [[ComicBook/TheAmazingSpiderManLeeAndDitko The Amazing Spider-Man]] with the same plots and designs which many saw as an attempt [[OrwellianRetcon to replace the imperishable classics]] whereas Ultimate Spider-Man really was a SettingUpdate and retelling with new takes on the classic characters. Many of the plot ideas and concepts from ''Chapter One'' were reused however such as Norman Osborn and Green Goblin being the GreaterScopeVillain connected to all the villains.

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** This was actually the second attempt by Marvel to reboot Spider-Man after the DorkAge AudienceAlienatingEra of ComicBook/TheCloneSaga. The first one was ''ComicBook/SpiderManChapterOne'' (in 1998-1999, about a year before this one) but it was poorly received and was nowhere near the success of Ultimate Spider-Man, mostly because it was a remake of [[ComicBook/TheAmazingSpiderManLeeAndDitko The Amazing Spider-Man]] with the same plots and designs which many saw as an attempt [[OrwellianRetcon to replace the imperishable classics]] whereas Ultimate Spider-Man really was a SettingUpdate and retelling with new takes on the classic characters. Many of the plot ideas and concepts from ''Chapter One'' were reused however such as Norman Osborn and Green Goblin being the GreaterScopeVillain connected to all the villains.
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* FoeYay: During the "Return of the Green Goblin" arc, we get to look at things [[ThroughTheEyesOfMadness through Norman's eyes]] during a conversation with Spider-Man. The voices in his head tell him things like "kill him" "skin him" "burn him" and "'''''kiss''' him''".

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* FoeYay: FoeYayShipping: During the "Return of the Green Goblin" arc, we get to look at things [[ThroughTheEyesOfMadness through Norman's eyes]] during a conversation with Spider-Man. The voices in his head tell him things like "kill him" "skin him" "burn him" and "'''''kiss''' him''".
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* UnintentionalPeriodPiece:
** The choice to make Kraven the Hunter a reality TV star is an obvious artifact from a time when reality shows were the biggest thing on television.
** The dialogue of the young characters features a lot of casual usage of terms that, at the time, were seen as "casual swears" or the kind of "edgy" things teens would say, but now are regarded as very hurtful slurs against homosexuals, people with disabilities, women, and some other groups. This was actually quite common among Marvel's teen-aimed books around this time, making it a distinctly early-2000s feature.

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This page is for the comic and video game. For the western animated series, see [[YMMV/UltimateSpiderMan2012 here]]

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!! ''VideoGame/UltimateSpiderMan'', video game
* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: This game had Kevin Manthei, one of the people who did the music for ''WesternAnimation/InvaderZim'', as the composer of the game; as a direct result, the whole soundtrack could quality as absolute gold.
** Venom's {{Leitmotif}}. The first [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRklzkKKKq0 rendition]] is dark and primal, while the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcXD6RETN24 other version]] is downright epic and intense, to the point where it can be considered a [[BossRemix Boss Remix]] of it.
** The music when [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEa0yYMkxuI Venom fights Silver Sable's mercs]] is almost as dark and intense, incorporating techno and orchestra even better than other tracks, managing to be dramatically catchy.
** The track that plays during [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMiDyDVlFlU Spider-Man and Venom's first and final battles in the game]] is probably the best in the whole soundtrack, and perhaps one of the best tracks in a ''Spider-Man'' game. It just starts UpToEleven, goes even higher from there, and just. ''Never. Stops''.
* BrokenBase: Whether this game or ''VideoGame/SpiderMan2'' is superior. ''Spider-Man 2'' is considered to one of the best superhero games ever made and was really innovative back in the day, which nobody denies, but its graphics[[note]]They look ok for [=PS2=] open world standards, but depending on who you ask, they haven't necessarily aged well; Character textures are noticeably mirrored from the middle, and non-cutscene [=NPCs=] don't move their mouths when talking, for example[[/note]] and the fact that only the console versions avoid TheProblemWithLicensedGames are points of contention. Whether or not the better graphics, larger map, [[JustHereForGodzilla Venom]], the original story, the slight gameplay changes, and the PC release make ''Ultimate'' an EvenBetterSequel is up on the air. Pretty much nobody considers it a ContestedSequel, however, and both games are still loved by many.
* HilariousInHindsight: The ''Marvel Database'' (that is, [[TheWikiRule the Marvel wiki]]) is usually pretty damn reliable, so you can take the fact that the ComicBook/UltimateMarvel Universe and its version from [[VideoGame/UltimateSpiderMan the videogame]] aren't the same universe as borderline WordOfGod (which got confirmed anyway, as the VideoGame/UltimateSpiderMan videogame fell into CanonDiscontinuity). Flash-forward to the latest events and to Peter's death. Once you think about it, you realize that thanks to the videogame version of the VideoGame/UltimateSpiderMan we still have an alive-and-well Ultimate Peter Parker - [[MoodWhiplash and an active and uncaptured Ultimate Eddie Brock.]]
** Doubles as HeartwarmingInHindsight. Not just for Spidey, but for the Fantastic 4 and most of the X-Men, since there's a chance ComicBook/{{Ultimatum}} didn't happen.
** Venom's wanted level you unlock post-game is clearly inspired by VideoGame/GrandTheftAuto's. However, unlike ''GTA'', Venom's wanted level only has 5 stages to it rather than 6. And then VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoV did the exact same thing, with only five wanted levels.
* SugarWiki/MostWonderfulSound: Venom's voice is an ''awesomely'' terrifying GutturalGrowler courtesy of Arthur Burghardt, even if he does not have a great amount of dialogue throughout the game.
--->'''''KILL...you...KILLLL! YOUUUU!'''''
* {{Narm}}: Spidey's game over screen is pretty melodramatic, with the web-slinger exaggeratedly falling to his knees as the ashamed faces of his loved ones look on in the background. It becomes even more hilarious if you failed something as simple as catching up to the Rhino after you exposed his weak spot, making it seem as though Peter had absolutely failed everyone by not being able to stay close enough despite the villain only traveling to a parking lot not far from where they started.
** Venom's game over screen (apart from the chaotic music which can serve as a JumpScare) could also count for the same reasons - he looks like he's throwing a complete temper tantrum. Justified, since this Venom is feral [[spoiler:up until the end]], but one could easily interpret him as a [[SoreLoser sore loser]] instead, completely losing his mind over failing to catch Electro who would probably goad him to come back anyway.
* TakeThatScrappy: In the video game, Venom's tutorial presents you with your first task of absorbing people so that you don't lose health, your first target? A child holding a balloon. In ''VideoGame/SpiderMan2'', everyone ''hated'' the missions of helping kids who constantly lose their balloons.
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* WhatAnIdiot
** Eddie Brock Junior gets major points here. After being told by Peter that their father's life's work is actually dangerous in the extreme and that Peter, a guy with superpowers, barely survived using it for a few hours at most, Eddie decides the best thing to do is get the other sample he had hidden and stick his fingers in it. And as a result, he ends up stuck in a living nightmare, hunted by a megacorp with an unrelenting hunger driving him to eat people.
** Kraven, who does not have any powers, taunted Spider-Man for a fight, insisted after his initial refusal, and that [[BrokeYourArmPunchingOutCthulhu ended just as you would expect]]. So he gets an illegal treatment to get actual super strength and announces in a TV interview that he'll hunt Spider-Man again. He had barely ended the interview, that the Ultimates are already there to detain him for illegally mutating himself.
** Harry Osborn saw his father experiment on himself and blew up Oscorp. His house was blown up by a flying monster, that he knows it's his father, who kills his mother with a fireblast and tries to kill him as well. And when he notices that he's still alive, he will go after him again.
::'''You'd expect:''' That he goes straight to the police, explains what happened, and asks for protection. Perhaps there's little they can do, but they are the best-suited force for that (at least, that he can reach, SHIELD may be difficult to be reached by a mere teenager on his own).
::'''Instead:''' Harry... goes to the school? Wait, what?

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