YMMV: Ultimate Spider-Man
This page is for the comic and video game. For the western animated series, see here
Ultimate Spider-Man, comic series
- Anticlimax Boss: Kraven the Hunter. He's built up as a highly skilled warrior who decided to take down Spider-Man. Peter isn't even remotely interested in fighting him (he'd just beaten Doctor Octopus at the time) but when Kraven insists, Peter simply dodges a few times then knocks him out with a single blow. Instantly lampshaded by Spider-Man.
Peter: Huh. I thought he had super powers or something. Showbiz phony.
- Arc Fatigue: Many felt that the Double Trouble Doc Ock/Kraven the Hunter arc ran too long.
- Base Breaker
- Kitty Pryde, who is either considered a welcome addition to the cast, or Bendis' own personal Mary Sue.
- Again, with the real death of Peter and the start of a new series featuring a different character under the mask thus turning Ultimate Spidey into a Legacy Character.
- Spider-Men, the crossover between the 616 & Ultimate universes to celebrate the fiftieth anniversary of Spider-Man's first appearance — is it a great idea, or yet another case of Quesada dropping the ball, given his previous comments on the matter of a 616/Ultimate universe crossover. Is it too soon to have Miles meet 616!Peter since the former is still finding his feet as a superhero, or just a wasted idea since it comes the year after Ultimate Peter was killed and shortly before 616!Peter is as well? The latter in particular, as it completely dropped the plotline going through the end of "Men".
- The handling of Katie Bishop, due to being In Name Only compared to her comic counterpart.
- Broken Base
- For some, it's when Mark Bagley left the series. His Spider-Man design is iconic (Marvel used to use it for merchandising all the time) and Mark Bagley basically defined Ultimate Spider-Man and its world. Not to mention Bagley had been on the comic for so long and for so many consecutive issues that changing the artist was bound to be jarring no matter who they got.
- For others, it's when Ultimate Spider-Man got relaunched as Ultimate Comics: Spider-Man
- For even more it's when Ultimate Comics: Spider-Man was again relaunched with Miles Morales as Spider-Man.
- The apparent resurrection of Peter Parker in MM:USM.
- Creator's Pet: Kitty Pryde became Peter Parker's girlfriend in and, after they broke up, remained a part of the cast and was fit into as many plotlines as possible. Brian Michael Bendis has gone on the record to state that he's always liked Kitty Pryde from back when he was a kid and that he enjoys using her... combine that with a statement he made about Peter "being him" and the conclusion to come to is pretty easy. Some don't mind the attention paid to her... but others do.
- Ensemble Darkhorse
- Gwen Stacy. So much so they eventually brought her back.
- Jessica Drew is easily one of these, having minimal screen-time but a huge fanbase.
- Miles' supporting cast is getting popular, such as Ganke and Rio Morales.
- Foe Yay: During the "Return of the Green Goblin" arc, we get to look at things through Norman's eyes during a conversation with Spider-Man. The voices in his head tell him things like "kill him" "skin him" "burn him" and "kiss him".
- Growing the Beard
- For Ultimate Comics: Spider-Man it is issue 9 and 10.
- For Ultimate Comics: All-New Spider-man it is issue 12.
- Harsher in Hindsight
- Back in the early nineties, one of the most famous songs by Italian band 883note was titled "Hanno Ucciso L'Uomo Ragno", which is Italian for "They Killed Spider-Man". Fast-forward by twenty-years-or-so.
- In "Cats and Queens", the focus of MJ's story was her wanting to run away from home so she and peter could be married, with him saying he'll always be there for her. Also in the same arc, Black Cat tells him he'll have seven years bad luck. This was in 2004...
- Similarly, every time the subject of sex came up between Peter and MJ, they resolve to "wait until they're older".
- At July 2005's San Diego Comic Con, in response to the question the Ultimate & 616 universes crossing over, Joe Quesada stated that he'd rather close down one universe than have them cross over because it meant they were officially out of ideas. Fast forward to 2012, and Marvel announced that they will be having 616!Peter crossing over to the Ultimate universe to meet Miles.
- Ho Yay: Apparently Miles and Ganke gave this off to Miles' parents...not that they mind. Doubles as Mistaken for Gay.
Jefferson [after talking with Miles about his relationship with Kate Bishop ]: Good to hear. For a while there I thought you and the Gankster had a thing going.
Jefferson: Frankly, your mother thought that years before—
Miles: Mom thought that Ganke and I were...together?
Jefferson: Nothing wrong with—
- "Funny Aneurysm" Moment / Harsher in Hindsight: Every discussion anyone ever has about Peter's future now that we know his eventual fate.
- Hilarious in Hindsight
- A small detail, but in the 2004 "Hollywood" arc, when Peter fights Doc Ock on the set of a new Spider-Man movie, a black stuntman in a Spidey outfit hits Doc Ock with a camera. When he tells Spidey that he's just a stuntman, not the actor playing him, Peter says "I thought I got revamped there for a second..."
- In one of the first issues, a photo can be seen that shows a young Peter with his aunt and uncle at Disney World. This was many years before Disney actually purchased the company.
- I Knew It:
- Liz Allan turning out to be a mutant, after it was swiftly established that she hated mutants. After the solicitations revealed that Ultimate Firestar was going to debut in the "And his Amazing Friends" arc, most people guessed that it would turn out to be Liz.
- Peter Parker being brought back to life thanks to the OZ formula that gave him spider powers in the first place, since OZ gave Norman Osborn his powers, and he'd already come back from the dead at that point.
- Like You Would Really Do It: Averted, considering the one involved is the title character.
- Magnificent Bastard: Kingpin, he makes Lex Luthor look like a chump. For example - he bought out the wrestling company that Spider-Man made his first few public appearances for prior to becoming a superhero, purely so that he could make money over Spider-Man's likeness & knowing that Spidey's choices were A) quit being Spider-Man, allowing his profile to fall & kill off the demand for Spidey merchandise so Fisk couldn't profit from him, but at the cost of being unable to stop his operations; B) publicly unmask to claim ownership of the Spider-Man likeness & stop Fisk from merchandising it, but making his loved ones targets for Kingpin; or C) let him get away with it. Fisk even points out that if Peter quits, he'll just hire a new Spider-Man to make sure that people still want to pay for Spidey merch.
- Magnum Opus: Arguably a contender for Brian Michael Bendis' and it's widely considered to be the very best series in the Ultimate Marvel line.
- Some even consider it the best version of Spider-Man, period.
- Narm: In the middle of his long rant at Miles and Spider-Woman, Roxxon randomly yells "childcare" for no readily apparent reason.
- Nightmare Fuel
- In issue 13 of the relaunch, both the original Peter and Jameson are tied up after being caught by the Chameleon siblings. While the brother was robbing a bank as Spider-Man, the sister took on the face of J. Jonah Jameson (but with a scantily clad female body) proceeded to shoot the original Jameson in the head. Right in front of Peter. Ugh.
- The storyline in which Deadpool and the mercenaries take Spider-man and the X-Men to face "justice" on that game show. Starts with a school full of unsuspecting people getting knocked out and kidnapped and ends with them having to rescue Xavier, who is stripped, chained up, and has his eyes pried open ala A Clockwork Orange, so he is forced to watch his students be killed.
- Venom's portrayal in this series is absolutely nightmarish. The suit, rather than simply making you more aggressive like in the mainstream verse, seemingly drives its wearer to near insanity even giving them delusions to make them attack people (Peter ditches it after it makes him see a random burglar as Uncle Ben's killer before driving him into a murderous rage). Also it apparently feeds off its hosts like a parasite, driving them to try and consume people to stabilize itself. And it gets even worse after getting attached to Conrad Marcus; he becomes a hulking Implacable Man monster that Miles can barely hurt and unlike Eddie Brock, he goes hunting after Spidey's family and friends, ending with him tearing through a hospital trying to kill Rio. And he succeeds.
- No Yay: Bendis played up the Like Brother and Sister angle with Peter and Gwen so much that this was the reaction when they finally did hook up.
- Protagonist Centred Morality: The handling of the Adaptational Villainy given to Katie Bishop, particularly since they're a 15 year old girl who's only villainous due to being raised by dedicated Hydra fanatics, who gets treated like she's worse than Hitler for, you know, being loyal to her parents (who are shown to, at best, be emotionally manipulative). It crosses into PCM however when Miles basically gives Bombshell consent to beat the crap out of her, even though Bombshell herself is Not So Different from Katie, being she too was once an active criminal due to following her mother's lead.
- Replacement Scrappy: Miles Morales, for many fans of Ultimate Peter. He's otherwise well-received, though.
- Some characters In-Universe (especially friends of Peter) see him as this.
- Ship-to-Ship Combat: Who made a better girlfriend for Peter; Mary Jane, Gwen Stacy, or Kitty Pryde. Have a lot of fun with that conversation.
- They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot: Having Spider-Man undergo training from the Ultimates to become a better hero was an interesing idea...that was introduced just before volume three...
- For what it's worth, that ended up being the basis of the otherwise unrelated cartoon. So presumably someone in development agreed.
- Take That, Scrappy!: The first time Miles comes across any of Peter's True Companions in costume, he's promptly kicked in the head and asked "Who the Precision F-Strike do you think you are?". Bonus points for it coming from Spider-Woman, or if you prefer Peter's gender flipped clone.
- Tear Jerker: The first Fallout issue is this for pretty much every page.
- They Changed It, Now It Sucks
- Some fans feel this way about the series. 'Tis a retelling though, so you can't win 'em all.
- Played straight with the transition from Ultimate Spider-Man to Ultimate Comics: Spider-Man. The change of artist and shake up of status quo has resulted in a more Broken Base.
- The second transition to an entirely new main character just begs for this.
- Too Cool to Live
- Uncle Ben
- Peter Parker
- Rio Morales
- Unnecessary Makeover: Mary Jane was on the receiving end of one via Liz Allen in one story, which involves wearing incredibly skimpy clothing and dying her hair black.Said arc wasn't very popular. MJ herself even hates it, and quickly ditches it the first chance she gets.
- What an Idiot
- Carol Danvers qualifies over and over again. She refused to just put Norman down, instead, every single time she chose to keep him alive in a prison he's proven capable of breaking out of at will. This reaches critical mass at the start of The Death of Spider-Man - not just Norman, but five other dangerous superpowered criminals break out of the Triskelion, all of whom are enemies of Spider-Man, and the last time five of the six teamed up, it required the Ultimates to stop them. So she not only sends the Ultimates off to fight Nick Fury's Avengers to cover her own ass, but she doesn't even tell Spider-Man that six of his enemies have all escaped from incarceration, all so that she can keep the breakout a secret. And the kicker? Because she inadvertently caused the death of Spider-Man, this wound up being the straw that broke the camel's back and got her fired from her position as Director of S.H.I.E.L.D.
- The Woobie
- Shadowcat in Ultimate Comics: Spider-Man.
- And, as always, Peter. By the end of the Ultimate Clone Saga arc, everyone wanted to give that kid a hug.
- Mary-Jane Watson on a regular basis, especially with her crazy father interfering with her and Peter's relationship in "Cats and Queens"
Ultimate Spider-Man, video game
- Hilarious in Hindsight: The Marvel Database (that is, the Marvel wiki) is usually pretty damn reliable, so you can take the fact that the Ultimate Marvel Universe and its version from the videogame aren't the same universe as borderline Word of God (which got confirmed anyway, as the Ultimate Spider-Man videogame fell into Canon Discontinuity). Flash-forward to the latest events and to Peter's death. Once you think about it, you realise that thanks to the videogame version of the Ultimate Spider-Man we still have an alive-and-well Ultimate Peter Parker.
- Nightmare Fuel: Eddie hunts Trask down to his "golfcourse prison" ready to get revenge. When Trask stammers about the guards, Eddie becomes Venom and says in a terrifying tone "They are not nearly well armed enough." His victim doesn't last long.
- Take That, Scrappy!: The first person that Venom kills in the game is an obnoxious little kid with a balloon, in a nod to the Scrappy Mechanic balloon missions from the Spider-Man 2 game.