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YMMV: Ultimate Spider-Man

Ultimate Spider-Man, comic series

  • Anticlimax Boss: Kraven the Hunter. He's built up as a highly skilled warrior who decided to take down Spider-Man. Peter isn't even remotely interested in fighting him (he'd just beaten Doctor Octopus at the time) but when Kraven insists, Peter simply dodges a few times then knocks him out with a single blow.
    Peter: Huh. I thought he had super powers or something. Showbiz phony.
  • Arc Fatigue: Many felt that the Double Trouble Doc Ock/Kraven the Hunter arc ran too long.
  • Base Breaker
    • Kitty Pryde, who is either considered a welcome addition to the cast, or Bendis' own personal Mary Sue.
    • Chances are that another one is on the horizon with the real death of Peter and the start of a new series featuring a different character under the mask thus turning Ultimate Spidey into a Legacy Character. Can you spell Flame Bait?
    • Spider-Men, the crossover between the 616 & Ultimate universes to celebrate the fiftieth anniversary of Spider-Man's first appearance — is it a great idea, or yet another case of Quesada dropping the ball, given his previous comments on the matter of a 616/Ultimate universe crossover. Is it too soon to have Miles meet 616!Peter since the former is still finding his feet as a superhero, or just a wasted idea since it comes the year after Ultimate Peter was killed?
  • Broken Base
    • For some, it's when Mark Bagley left the series. His Spider-Man design is iconic (Marvel used to use it for merchandising all the time) and Mark Bagley basically defined Ultimate Spider-Man and its world.
    • For others, it's when Ultimate Spider-Man got relaunched as Ultimate Comics: Spider-Man
    • For even more it's when Ultimate Comics: Spider-Man was again relaunched with Miles Morales as Spider-Man.
  • Complaining about Shows You Don't Watch: It is truly amazing when people sum up Miles' origin as exactly the same as Peter's except that he is black and complain that he is too young despite Ultimate Peter just being two years older and the original being just a year older. Or go beyond being petty and say that we need an older Spider-man despite the fact that 616 is that older Spider-man and every other comic adaptation of the character has always been grown up.
  • Complete Monster
    • Norman Osborn and Doctor Octopus were in a race for quite a while to see who was the bigger bastard. Norman threatened Peter's family, brainwashed his own son and nearly killed Mary Jane, while Otto flat-out tortured Peter at one point and cloned him while clearly reveling in how what he was doing was destroying Peter's own life. Norman finally won when Doc Ock had a Heel Face Turn and said that he didn't want to go after Peter any more, and Norman responded by brutally murdering him.
    • Ultimate Deadpool, for being a mutant-hating bastard who replaced most of his body with cybernetics just so he could kill mutants better. His only appearance so far has him kidnapping Spider-Man and the X-Men and taking them to an island so they can be hunted down and killed.
  • Dying Moment of Awesome: You can debate endlessly about whether or not killing Peter was a good idea but you can't say that they didn't have him go down facing off against the Sinister Six by himself with a bullet in his gut and fading fast.
  • Ensemble Darkhorse
    • Gwen Stacy. So much so they eventually brought her back.
    • Jessica Drew is easily one of these, having minimal screen-time but a huge fanbase.
    • Kong. He's become popular enough to become a Canon Immigrant in The Spectacular Spider-Man.
  • Fan Preferred Couple: Peter/Kitty has gained a large following, especially after they were broken up.
  • Growing the Beard
    • For Ultimate Comics: Spider-Man it is issue 9 and 10.
    • For Ultimate Comics: All-New Spider-man it is issue 12.
  • Harsher in Hindsight
    • Back in the early nineties, one of the most famous songs by Italian band 883 was titled "Hanno Ucciso L'Uomo Ragno", which is Italian for "They Killed Spider-Man". Fast-forward by twenty-years-or-so.
    • In "Cats and Queens", the focus of MJ's story was her wanting to run away from home so she and peter could be married, with him saying he'll always be there for her. Also in the same arc, Black Cat tells him he'll have seven years bad luck. This was in 2004...
    • At July 2005's San Diego Comic Con, in response to the question the Ultimate & 616 universes crossing over, Joe Quesada stated that he'd rather close down one universe than have them cross over because it meant they were officially out of ideas. Fast forward to 2012, and Marvel announced that they will be having 616!Peter crossing over to the Ultimate universe to meet Miles.
  • Ho Yay: Apparently Miles and Ganke gave this off to Miles' parents...not that they mind. Doubles as Mistaken for Gay.
    Jefferson [after talking with Miles about his relationship with Kate Bishop ]: Good to hear. For a while there I thought you and the Gankster had a thing going.
    Miles: What?!
    Jefferson: Frankly, your mother thought that years before—
    Miles: Mom thought that Ganke and I were...together?
    Jefferson: Nothing wrong with—
    Miles: Ew.
  • "Funny Aneurysm" Moment / Harsher in Hindsight: Every discussion anyone ever has about Peter's future now that we know his eventual fate...
  • Hilarious in Hindsight
    • A small detail, but in the 2004 "Hollywood" arc, when Peter fights Doc Ock on the set of a new Spider-Man movie, a black stuntman in a Spidey outfit hits Doc Ock with a camera. When he tells Spidey that he's just a stuntman, not the actor playing him, Peter says "I thought I got revamped there for a second..."
  • Like You Would Really Do It: Averted, considering the one involved is the title character.
  • Magnificent Bastard: Kingpin. He makes Lex Luthor look like a chump.
  • Magnum Opus: Arguably a contender for Brian Michael Bendis'.
  • Nightmare Fuel
    • In issue 13 of the relaunch, both the original Peter and Jameson are tied up after being caught by the Chameleon siblings. While the brother was robbing a bank as Spider-Man, the sister took on the face of J. Jonah Jameson (but with a scantily clad female body) proceeded to shoot the original Jameson in the head. Right in front of Peter. Ugh.
    • The storyline in which Deadpool and the mercenaries take Spider-man and the X-Men to face "justice" on that game show. Starts with a school full of unsuspecting people getting knocked out and kidnapped and ends with them having to rescue Xavier, who is stripped, chained up, and has his eyes pried open ala Clockwork Orange, so he is forced to watch his students be killed.
  • No Yay: Bendis played up the Like Brother and Sister angle with Peter and Gwen so much that this was the reaction when they finally did hook up.
  • Replacement Scrappy: Miles Morales, for fans of Ultimate Peter. He's otherwise well-received, though.
  • The Scrappy
    • Again, Ultimate Deadpool. It's not that hard to see why people disliked the character.
      • Not everyone though, since some were OK with it since Ultimate characters are suppose to be different to their mainstream counterpart.
      • This might take a little explanation, but the mainline Deadpool is a fairly popular character, mostly because of a sense of humor and lightheartedness. Ultimate Deadpool, by comparison, is thought of as a generic villain who hates mutants. The two versions share very little in common (until his re-tool courtesy of Spider Man Shattered Dimensions, although it is probably non-canon).
  • They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot: Having Spider-Man undergo training from the Ultimates to become a better hero was an interesing idea...that was introduced just before volume three...
    • For what it's worth, that ended up being the basis of the otherwise unrelated cartoon. So presumably someone in development agreed.
  • Take That, Scrappy!: The first time Miles comes across any of Peter's True Companions in costume, he's promptly kicked in the head and asked "Who the Precision F-Strike do you think you are?". Bonus points for it coming from Spider-Woman, or if you prefer Peter's gender flipped clone.
  • Tear Jerker: The first Fallout issue is this for pretty much every page.
  • They Changed It, Now It Sucks
    • Some fans feel this way about the series. 'Tis a retelling though, so you can't win 'em all.
    • Played straight with the transition from Ultimate Spider-Man to Ultimate Comics: Spider-Man. The change of artist and shake up of status quo has resulted in a more Broken Base.
    • The second transition to an entirely new main character just begs for this.
  • Too Cool to Live
    • Uncle Ben
    • Peter Parker
    • Rio Morales
  • What an Idiot
    • Carol Danvers qualifies over and over again. She refused to just put Norman down, instead, every single time she chose to keep him alive in a prison he's proven capable of breaking out of at will. This reaches critical mass at the start of The Death of Spider-Man - not just Norman, but five other dangerous superpowered criminals break out of the Triskelion, all of whom are enemies of Spider-Man, and the last time five of the six teamed up, it required the Ultimates to stop them. So she not only sends the Ultimates off to fight Nick Fury's Avengers to cover her own ass, but she doesn't even tell Spider-Man that six of his enemies have all escaped from incarceration, all so that she can keep the breakout a secret. And the kicker? Because she inadvertently caused the death of Spider-Man, this wound up being the straw that broke the camel's back and got her fired from her position as Director of S.H.I.E.L.D.
      • Though how much of that is due to Nick Fury's planning is very much debatable. At least 2 characters have voiced the idea that he directly caused the events leading up to Spidey's death. Though to be fair neither is entirely neutral in the matter. One being MJ and the other being Fury's ex wife Black Widow 2. And even Nick Fury himself admits that he's to blame.
  • The Woobie
    • Shadowcat in Ultimate Comics: Spider-Man.
    • And, as always, Peter. By the end of the Ultimate Clone Saga arc, everyone wanted to give that kid a hug.
    • Mary-Jane Watson on a regular basis, especially with her crazy father interfering with her and Peter's relationship in "Cats and Queens"

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