History YMMV / Tsukihime

21st Jan '16 4:30:28 AM Scraggle
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* CompleteMonster: Makihisa is without a doubt, one of the biggest contenders for this title in the series. He is a career killer who shows no signs of remorse who repeatedly raped Kohaku as a child to gain her bodily fluids (instead of [[MundaneSolution simple taking blood samples]]), [[spoiler:murdered Shiki's entire birth family for [[DisproportionateRetribution his father accidentally wounding him]]]], and engaged his daughter to a [[TheChikan fat sleazy pervert]] to strengthen their alliance.
1st Dec '15 8:35:26 AM ChaoticNovelist
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** Some Les Yay with Kohaku and Akiha was only made worse(or rather, better) in the anime. Kohaku's back being turned means the scene with [[spoiler:Akiha sucking Kohaku's blood]] [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything looks a]] ''[[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything helluva lot]]'' [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything more questionable]]. *** ... that's pretty much impossible, since the game's CG rather clearly shows [[spoiler:Akiha sucking on one of Kohaku's naked breasts]]. It was actually less explicit in the anime. *** That CG also shows specifically that [[spoiler:Akiha is sucking Kohaku's ''blood''. The anime being less explicit means it looks more like she's suckling]].
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** Some Les Yay with Kohaku and Akiha was only made worse(or rather, better) in the anime. Kohaku's back being turned means the scene with [[spoiler:Akiha sucking Kohaku's blood]] [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything looks a]] ''[[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything helluva lot]]'' [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything more questionable]]. *** ... that's pretty much impossible, since the game's questionable]]. The CG rather clearly shows [[spoiler:Akiha sucking on one of Kohaku's naked breasts]]. It was actually less explicit in the anime. *** That CG also shows specifically that [[spoiler:Akiha is sucking Kohaku's ''blood''. The anime being less explicit means it looks more like she's suckling]].

* {{Moe}}: When she isn't [[spoiler:[[PersonOfMassDestruction ripping people apart]] with [[UnstoppableRage maniacal glee]]]], Arcueid is frankly the sweetest and cutest "girl next door" you'd ever have the good fortune of meeting. ** Taking her on a date, though... that'd be tough. And you actually have to do that at some point in the game. HilarityEnsues.
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* {{Moe}}: {{Moe}}: ** When she isn't [[spoiler:[[PersonOfMassDestruction ripping people apart]] with [[UnstoppableRage maniacal glee]]]], Arcueid is frankly the sweetest and cutest "girl next door" you'd ever have the good fortune of meeting. ** Taking her on a date, though... that'd be tough. And you actually have to do that at some point in the game. HilarityEnsues.meeting.

* NightmareFuel: So, so much Nightmare fuel. [[spoiler:Help me. Help me. helpmehelpmehelpmehelpmehelpmehelpmehelp me. I should just become a doll.]]
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* NightmareFuel: So, so much Nightmare fuel. NightmareFuel: ** [[spoiler:Help me. Help me. helpmehelpmehelpmehelpmehelpmehelpmehelp me. I should just become a doll.]]

*** And the ''very worst'' part of this is when, locked in the throes of madness, you see [[spoiler:Kohaku's [[UncannyValley true smile]]]] for the first time. *** [[spoiler:Which isn't helped by Kohaku masquerading as [[EmotionlessGirl Hisui]] at the time.]]
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*** And the ''very worst'' part of this is when, locked in the throes of madness, you see [[spoiler:Kohaku's [[UncannyValley true smile]]]] for the first time. *** time [[spoiler:Which isn't helped is hurt by Kohaku masquerading as [[EmotionlessGirl Hisui]] at the time.]]

** To be fair, Neco-Arc was probably embellishing a little bit or outright lying - especially on the cannon. But Satsuki does seem to be listed among the heroines in the EnhancedRemake coming out, so the truth might soon be there...

* PlayerPunch: Arcueid's route. [[spoiler:Roa cuts Arcueid in half. The player's response, if they're remotely human, is "'''BURN!!! MAIM!!! KILL!!! ROA MUST FUCKING DIE!!!'''"]] ** [[spoiler:And Shiki is oh so fucking happy to provide. Shiki snaps like a twig in a hurricane. The rest? [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome Is history.]]]]
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* PlayerPunch: Arcueid's PlayerPunch: **Arcueid's route. [[spoiler:Roa cuts Arcueid in half. The player's response, if they're remotely human, is "'''BURN!!! MAIM!!! KILL!!! ROA MUST FUCKING DIE!!!'''"]] ** [[spoiler:And Shiki DIE!!!'''"]] [[spoiler:Shiki is oh so fucking happy to provide. Shiki snaps like a twig in a hurricane. The rest? [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome Is history.]]]]

** Becoming the monster he is now can be blamed on at least three things beyond his control, [[spoiler:a combination of his particularly strong awakening of the Tohno's demon blood, being the 18th reincarnation of Roa, AND being locked in a basement for years while Kohaku drugged him and generally fucked with his mind]]. He didn't really have much of a chance. *** The side-story game ''Kagetsu Tohya'' gives a small amount of closure to this with the final, hidden TearJerker bonus story "Drinking, Dreaming Moon" where [[spoiler:Shiki and SHIKI finally meet on friendly terms in a [[OrWasItADream dream]].]]
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** Becoming the monster he is now can be blamed on at least three things beyond his control, [[spoiler:a combination of his particularly strong awakening of the Tohno's demon blood, being the 18th reincarnation of Roa, AND being locked in a basement for years while Kohaku drugged him and generally fucked screwed with his mind]]. He didn't really have much of a chance. *** chance. The side-story game ''Kagetsu Tohya'' gives a small amount of closure to this with the final, hidden TearJerker bonus story "Drinking, Dreaming Moon" where [[spoiler:Shiki and SHIKI finally meet on friendly terms in a [[OrWasItADream dream]].]]
1st Dec '15 8:31:50 AM ChaoticNovelist
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* AnticlimaxBoss: [[spoiler:Roa / SHIKI.]] The game made you think that he is a truly BadAss enemy that [[spoiler:even Arcueid knows isn't an easy opponent]] or [[spoiler:made Akiha increase her powers in order to destroy him]]. When we have the Shiki vs. BigBad fight, what happens? [[spoiler:Shiki kills him with very little effort]]. I know that Shiki's eyes are the killing weapons, but still...
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* AnticlimaxBoss: [[spoiler:Roa / SHIKI.]] The game made you think that he is a truly BadAss enemy that [[spoiler:even Arcueid knows isn't an easy opponent]] or [[spoiler:made Akiha increase her powers in order to destroy him]]. When we have the Shiki vs. BigBad fight, what happens? [[spoiler:Shiki kills him with very little effort]]. I know that Shiki's eyes are the killing weapons, but still...
11th Oct '15 3:01:12 PM Andrzej
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* AnticlimaxBoss: [[spoiler:Roa / SHIKI.]] The game made you think that he is a truly BadAss enemy that [[spoiler:even Arcueid knows isn't an easy opponent]] or [[spoiler:made Akiha increase her powers in order to destroy him]]. When we have the Shiki vs. BigBad fight, what happens? [[spoiler: Shiki kills him with very little effort]]. I know that Shiki's eyes are the killing weapons, but still... ** Justified in Hisui's route since[[spoiler: SHIKI was undergoing a VillainousBreakdown from killing his blood sister Akiha and had been severely weakened in his earlier fight with her. After the death of his only close relative by his own hands, its possible that at that point SHIKI was hoping to die.]] * CompleteMonster: Makihisa is without a doubt, one of the biggest contenders for this title in the series. He is a career killer who shows no signs of remorse who repeatedly raped Kohaku as a child to gain her bodily fluids (instead of [[{{Mundane Solution}}simple taking blood samples]]), [[spoiler: murdered Shiki's entire birth family family for [[{{Disproportionate Retribution}} his father accidentally wounding him]]]], and engaged his daughter to a [[{{theChikan}} fat sleazy pervert]] to strengthen their alliance.
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* AnticlimaxBoss: [[spoiler:Roa / SHIKI.]] The game made you think that he is a truly BadAss enemy that [[spoiler:even Arcueid knows isn't an easy opponent]] or [[spoiler:made Akiha increase her powers in order to destroy him]]. When we have the Shiki vs. BigBad fight, what happens? [[spoiler: Shiki [[spoiler:Shiki kills him with very little effort]]. I know that Shiki's eyes are the killing weapons, but still... ** Justified in Hisui's route since[[spoiler: SHIKI since [[spoiler:SHIKI was undergoing a VillainousBreakdown from killing his blood sister Akiha and had been severely weakened in his earlier fight with her. After the death of his only close relative by his own hands, its possible that at that point SHIKI was hoping to die.]] ]] * CompleteMonster: Makihisa is without a doubt, one of the biggest contenders for this title in the series. He is a career killer who shows no signs of remorse who repeatedly raped Kohaku as a child to gain her bodily fluids (instead of [[{{Mundane Solution}}simple [[MundaneSolution simple taking blood samples]]), [[spoiler: murdered [[spoiler:murdered Shiki's entire birth family family for [[{{Disproportionate Retribution}} [[DisproportionateRetribution his father accidentally wounding him]]]], and engaged his daughter to a [[{{theChikan}} [[TheChikan fat sleazy pervert]] to strengthen their alliance.

*** ... that's pretty much impossible, since the game's CG rather clearly shows [[spoiler: Akiha sucking on one of Kohaku's naked breasts]]. It was actually less explicit in the anime.
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*** ... that's pretty much impossible, since the game's CG rather clearly shows [[spoiler: Akiha [[spoiler:Akiha sucking on one of Kohaku's naked breasts]]. It was actually less explicit in the anime.

* MemeticMutation: ''Many.'' It comes with [[{{Memes/Nasuverse}} the territory]].
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* MemeticMutation: ''Many.'' It comes with [[{{Memes/Nasuverse}} [[Memes/{{Nasuverse}} the territory]].

* {{Moe}}: When she isn't [[spoiler: [[PersonOfMassDestruction ripping people apart]] with [[UnstoppableRage maniacal glee]]]], Arcueid is frankly the sweetest and cutest "girl next door" you'd ever have the good fortune of meeting.
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* {{Moe}}: When she isn't [[spoiler: [[PersonOfMassDestruction [[spoiler:[[PersonOfMassDestruction ripping people apart]] with [[UnstoppableRage maniacal glee]]]], Arcueid is frankly the sweetest and cutest "girl next door" you'd ever have the good fortune of meeting.

* NightmareFuel: So, so much Nightmare fuel. [[spoiler: Help me. Help me. helpmehelpmehelpmehelpmehelpmehelpmehelp me. I should just become a doll.]]
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* NightmareFuel: So, so much Nightmare fuel. [[spoiler: Help [[spoiler:Help me. Help me. helpmehelpmehelpmehelpmehelpmehelpmehelp me. I should just become a doll.]]

*** [[spoiler: Which isn't helped by Kohaku masquerading as [[EmotionlessGirl Hisui]] at the time.]]
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*** [[spoiler: Which [[spoiler:Which isn't helped by Kohaku masquerading as [[EmotionlessGirl Hisui]] at the time.]]

* PlayerPunch: Arcueid's route. [[spoiler: Roa cuts Arcueid in half. The player's response, if they're remotely human, is "'''BURN!!! MAIM!!! KILL!!! ROA MUST FUCKING DIE!!!'''"]] ** [[spoiler: And Shiki is oh so fucking happy to provide. Shiki snaps like a twig in a hurricane. The rest? [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome Is history.]]]]
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* PlayerPunch: Arcueid's route. [[spoiler: Roa [[spoiler:Roa cuts Arcueid in half. The player's response, if they're remotely human, is "'''BURN!!! MAIM!!! KILL!!! ROA MUST FUCKING DIE!!!'''"]] ** [[spoiler: And [[spoiler:And Shiki is oh so fucking happy to provide. Shiki snaps like a twig in a hurricane. The rest? [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome Is history.]]]]

* TheWoobie: Oh where to start? There's all 5 main heroines to start with. Then there's Len, Sacchin, and Nanako. But above all of those is [[spoiler: the real Tohno SHIKI. Not Roa, SHIKI. Just think about his life for a second, you'll see it.]] ** Becoming the monster he is now can be blamed on at least three things beyond his control, [[spoiler: a combination of his particularly strong awakening of the Tohno's demon blood, being the 18th reincarnation of Roa, AND being locked in a basement for years while Kohaku drugged him and generally fucked with his mind]]. He didn't really have much of a chance. *** The side-story game ''Kagetsu Tohya'' gives a small amount of closure to this with the final, hidden TearJerker bonus story "Drinking, Dreaming Moon" where [[spoiler: Shiki and SHIKI finally meet on friendly terms in a [[OrWasItADream dream]].]] ** Shiki has had more than a few traumatic experiences in his backstory too. Getting kicked out of his home by his father for having a near lethal injury that made him see death everywhere is only the beginning, and that's not even getting into the more spoilerrific elements of his backstory. Though to give an example of one of those bits, [[spoiler: the opening scene, before the hospital? ''That's his entire blood related family being slaughtered right before his eyes.'']] He's remarkably well adjusted in spite of it.
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* TheWoobie: Oh where to start? There's all 5 main heroines to start with. Then there's Len, Sacchin, and Nanako. But above all of those is [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the real Tohno SHIKI. Not Roa, SHIKI. Just think about his life for a second, you'll see it.]] ** Becoming the monster he is now can be blamed on at least three things beyond his control, [[spoiler: a [[spoiler:a combination of his particularly strong awakening of the Tohno's demon blood, being the 18th reincarnation of Roa, AND being locked in a basement for years while Kohaku drugged him and generally fucked with his mind]]. He didn't really have much of a chance. *** The side-story game ''Kagetsu Tohya'' gives a small amount of closure to this with the final, hidden TearJerker bonus story "Drinking, Dreaming Moon" where [[spoiler: Shiki [[spoiler:Shiki and SHIKI finally meet on friendly terms in a [[OrWasItADream dream]].]] ** Shiki has had more than a few traumatic experiences in his backstory too. Getting kicked out of his home by his father for having a near lethal injury that made him see death everywhere is only the beginning, and that's not even getting into the more spoilerrific elements of his backstory. Though to give an example of one of those bits, [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the opening scene, before the hospital? ''That's his entire blood related family being slaughtered right before his eyes.'']] He's remarkably well adjusted in spite of it.
11th Oct '15 12:34:32 PM Clannadisawesome
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* * CompleteMonster: Makihisa is without a doubt, one of the biggest contenders for this title in the series. He is a career killer who shows no signs of remorse who repeatedly raped Kohaku as a child to gain her bodily fluids (instead of [[{{Mundane Solution}}simple taking blood samples]]), [[spoiler: murdered Shiki's entire birth family family for [[{{Disproportionate Retribution}} his father accidentally wounding him]]]], and engaged his daughter to a [[{{theChikan}} fat sleazy pervert]] to strengthen their alliance.
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* * CompleteMonster: Makihisa is without a doubt, one of the biggest contenders for this title in the series. He is a career killer who shows no signs of remorse who repeatedly raped Kohaku as a child to gain her bodily fluids (instead of [[{{Mundane Solution}}simple taking blood samples]]), [[spoiler: murdered Shiki's entire birth family family for [[{{Disproportionate Retribution}} his father accidentally wounding him]]]], and engaged his daughter to a [[{{theChikan}} fat sleazy pervert]] to strengthen their alliance.
11th Oct '15 12:33:53 PM Clannadisawesome
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* * CompleteMonster: Makihisa is without a doubt, one of the biggest contenders for this title in the series. He is a career killer who shows no signs of remorse who repeatedly raped Kohaku as a child to gain her bodily fluids (instead of [[{{Mundane Solution}}simple taking blood samples]]), [[spoiler: murdered Shiki's entire birth family family for [[{{Disproportionate Retribution}} his father accidentally wounding him]]]], and engaged his daughter to a [[{{theChikan}} fat sleazy pervert]] to strengthen their alliance.
6th Aug '15 2:48:32 PM ReiKusanagi
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** Curry+Ass? It's Shit [[note]]A seeming take that at Ciel by a doujin by combining her love of Curry and her noted ass/taste for anal sex[[/note]]
4th Aug '15 5:47:01 PM ReiKusanagi
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** Hisui has her moments, such as when she ends up wearing a sweater.
4th Aug '15 5:40:33 PM ReiKusanagi
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** Curry+Ass? It's Shit [[note]]A seeming take that at Ciel by a doujin by combining her love of Curry and her noted ass/taste for anal sex[[/note]]

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* TheScrappy: Ciel seems to be this in the eyes of some fans and Type-Moon considering the treatment she gets in side materials. The fan side may stem from how her true personality doesn't have much beyond liking Curry and anal sex. ** In side material her treatment is on par with Sakura from Fate/Stay night (which is to say very unkind)
10th May '15 7:01:52 PM nombretomado
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* CrazyAwesome: When Shiki snaps, he snaps awesomely, and in ways that put [[GetterRobo Ryoma Nagare]] to shame.
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* CrazyAwesome: When Shiki snaps, he snaps awesomely, and in ways that put [[GetterRobo [[Manga/GetterRobo Ryoma Nagare]] to shame.
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