History YMMV / Tsukihime

16th Jun '16 11:21:32 PM Scraggle
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* CompleteMonster: [[{{HalfHumanHybrid}} Makihisa]] [[{{PosthumousCharacter}} Tohno]] is without a doubt, one of the biggest contenders for this title in the series. He is a career killer who shows no signs of remorse who repeatedly raped Kohaku as a child to gain her bodily fluids (instead of [[MundaneSolution simple taking blood samples]]), [[spoiler:murdered Shiki's entire birth family for [[DisproportionateRetribution his father accidentally wounding him]]]], and engaged his daughter to a [[TheChikan fat sleazy pervert]] to strengthen their alliance.
20th May '16 5:12:37 PM Clannadisawesome
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* CompleteMonster: [[{{HalfHumanHybrid}} Makihisa]] [[{{PosthumousCharacter}} Tohno]] is without a doubt, one of the biggest contenders for this title in the series. He is a career killer who shows no signs of remorse who repeatedly raped Kohaku as a child to gain her bodily fluids (instead of [[MundaneSolution simple taking blood samples]]), [[spoiler:murdered Shiki's entire birth family for [[DisproportionateRetribution his father accidentally wounding him]]]], and engaged his daughter to a [[TheChikan fat sleazy pervert]] to strengthen their alliance.
15th May '16 6:28:10 PM Scraggle
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* CompleteMonster: [[{{HalfHumanHybrid}} Makihisa]] [[{{PosthumousCharacter}} Tohno]] is without a doubt, one of the biggest contenders for this title in the series. He is a career killer who shows no signs of remorse who repeatedly raped Kohaku as a child to gain her bodily fluids (instead of [[MundaneSolution simple taking blood samples]]), [[spoiler:murdered Shiki's entire birth family for [[DisproportionateRetribution his father accidentally wounding him]]]], and engaged his daughter to a [[TheChikan fat sleazy pervert]] to strengthen their alliance.
26th Mar '16 8:47:49 AM Clannadisawesome
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* CompleteMonster: [[{{HalfHumanHybrid}} Makihisa]] [[{{PosthumousCharacter}} Tohno]] is without a doubt, one of the biggest contenders for this title in the series. He is a career killer who shows no signs of remorse who repeatedly raped Kohaku as a child to gain her bodily fluids (instead of [[MundaneSolution simple taking blood samples]]), [[spoiler:murdered Shiki's entire birth family for [[DisproportionateRetribution his father accidentally wounding him]]]], and engaged his daughter to a [[TheChikan fat sleazy pervert]] to strengthen their alliance.
4th Mar '16 1:14:35 PM Scraggle
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* CompleteMonster: [[{{HalfHumanHybrid}} Makihisa]] [[{{PosthumousCharacter}} Tohno]] is without a doubt, one of the biggest contenders for this title in the series. He is a career killer who shows no signs of remorse who repeatedly raped Kohaku as a child to gain her bodily fluids (instead of [[MundaneSolution simple taking blood samples]]), [[spoiler:murdered Shiki's entire birth family for [[DisproportionateRetribution his father accidentally wounding him]]]], and engaged his daughter to a [[TheChikan fat sleazy pervert]] to strengthen their alliance.
15th Feb '16 5:43:22 PM Clannadisawesome
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* CompleteMonster: [[{{HalfHumanHybrid}} Makihisa]] [[{{PosthumousCharacter}}Tohno]] is without a doubt, one of the biggest contenders for this title in the series. He is a career killer who shows no signs of remorse who repeatedly raped Kohaku as a child to gain her bodily fluids (instead of [[MundaneSolution simple taking blood samples]]), [[spoiler:murdered Shiki's entire birth family for [[DisproportionateRetribution his father accidentally wounding him]]]], and engaged his daughter to a [[TheChikan fat sleazy pervert]] to strengthen their alliance.

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* CompleteMonster: [[{{HalfHumanHybrid}} Makihisa]] [[{{PosthumousCharacter}}Tohno]] [[{{PosthumousCharacter}} Tohno]] is without a doubt, one of the biggest contenders for this title in the series. He is a career killer who shows no signs of remorse who repeatedly raped Kohaku as a child to gain her bodily fluids (instead of [[MundaneSolution simple taking blood samples]]), [[spoiler:murdered Shiki's entire birth family for [[DisproportionateRetribution his father accidentally wounding him]]]], and engaged his daughter to a [[TheChikan fat sleazy pervert]] to strengthen their alliance.
15th Feb '16 5:42:15 PM Clannadisawesome
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* CompleteMonster: [[{{HalfHumanHybrid}} Makihisa]] [[{{PosthumousCharacter}}Tohno]] is without a doubt, one of the biggest contenders for this title in the series. He is a career killer who shows no signs of remorse who repeatedly raped Kohaku as a child to gain her bodily fluids (instead of [[MundaneSolution simple taking blood samples]]), [[spoiler:murdered Shiki's entire birth family for [[DisproportionateRetribution his father accidentally wounding him]]]], and engaged his daughter to a [[TheChikan fat sleazy pervert]] to strengthen their alliance.
21st Jan '16 4:30:28 AM Scraggle
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* CompleteMonster: Makihisa is without a doubt, one of the biggest contenders for this title in the series. He is a career killer who shows no signs of remorse who repeatedly raped Kohaku as a child to gain her bodily fluids (instead of [[MundaneSolution simple taking blood samples]]), [[spoiler:murdered Shiki's entire birth family for [[DisproportionateRetribution his father accidentally wounding him]]]], and engaged his daughter to a [[TheChikan fat sleazy pervert]] to strengthen their alliance.
1st Dec '15 8:35:26 AM ChaoticNovelist
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** Some Les Yay with Kohaku and Akiha was only made worse(or rather, better) in the anime. Kohaku's back being turned means the scene with [[spoiler:Akiha sucking Kohaku's blood]] [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything looks a]] ''[[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything helluva lot]]'' [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything more questionable]].
*** ... that's pretty much impossible, since the game's CG rather clearly shows [[spoiler:Akiha sucking on one of Kohaku's naked breasts]]. It was actually less explicit in the anime.
*** That CG also shows specifically that [[spoiler:Akiha is sucking Kohaku's ''blood''. The anime being less explicit means it looks more like she's suckling]].

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** Some Les Yay with Kohaku and Akiha was only made worse(or rather, better) in the anime. Kohaku's back being turned means the scene with [[spoiler:Akiha sucking Kohaku's blood]] [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything looks a]] ''[[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything helluva lot]]'' [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything more questionable]].
*** ... that's pretty much impossible, since the game's
questionable]]. The CG rather clearly shows [[spoiler:Akiha sucking on one of Kohaku's naked breasts]]. It was actually less explicit in the anime.
*** That CG also
shows specifically that [[spoiler:Akiha is sucking Kohaku's ''blood''. The anime being less explicit means it looks more like she's suckling]].



* {{Moe}}: When she isn't [[spoiler:[[PersonOfMassDestruction ripping people apart]] with [[UnstoppableRage maniacal glee]]]], Arcueid is frankly the sweetest and cutest "girl next door" you'd ever have the good fortune of meeting.
** Taking her on a date, though... that'd be tough. And you actually have to do that at some point in the game. HilarityEnsues.

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* {{Moe}}: {{Moe}}:
**
When she isn't [[spoiler:[[PersonOfMassDestruction ripping people apart]] with [[UnstoppableRage maniacal glee]]]], Arcueid is frankly the sweetest and cutest "girl next door" you'd ever have the good fortune of meeting.
** Taking her on a date, though... that'd be tough. And you actually have to do that at some point in the game. HilarityEnsues.
meeting.



* NightmareFuel: So, so much Nightmare fuel. [[spoiler:Help me. Help me. helpmehelpmehelpmehelpmehelpmehelpmehelp me. I should just become a doll.]]

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* NightmareFuel: So, so much Nightmare fuel. NightmareFuel:
**
[[spoiler:Help me. Help me. helpmehelpmehelpmehelpmehelpmehelpmehelp me. I should just become a doll.]]



*** And the ''very worst'' part of this is when, locked in the throes of madness, you see [[spoiler:Kohaku's [[UncannyValley true smile]]]] for the first time.
*** [[spoiler:Which isn't helped by Kohaku masquerading as [[EmotionlessGirl Hisui]] at the time.]]

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*** And the ''very worst'' part of this is when, locked in the throes of madness, you see [[spoiler:Kohaku's [[UncannyValley true smile]]]] for the first time.
***
time [[spoiler:Which isn't helped is hurt by Kohaku masquerading as [[EmotionlessGirl Hisui]] at the time.]]



** To be fair, Neco-Arc was probably embellishing a little bit or outright lying - especially on the cannon. But Satsuki does seem to be listed among the heroines in the EnhancedRemake coming out, so the truth might soon be there...



* PlayerPunch: Arcueid's route. [[spoiler:Roa cuts Arcueid in half. The player's response, if they're remotely human, is "'''BURN!!! MAIM!!! KILL!!! ROA MUST FUCKING DIE!!!'''"]]
** [[spoiler:And Shiki is oh so fucking happy to provide. Shiki snaps like a twig in a hurricane. The rest? [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome Is history.]]]]

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* PlayerPunch: Arcueid's PlayerPunch:
**Arcueid's
route. [[spoiler:Roa cuts Arcueid in half. The player's response, if they're remotely human, is "'''BURN!!! MAIM!!! KILL!!! ROA MUST FUCKING DIE!!!'''"]]
** [[spoiler:And Shiki
DIE!!!'''"]] [[spoiler:Shiki is oh so fucking happy to provide. Shiki snaps like a twig in a hurricane. The rest? [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome Is history.]]]]



** Becoming the monster he is now can be blamed on at least three things beyond his control, [[spoiler:a combination of his particularly strong awakening of the Tohno's demon blood, being the 18th reincarnation of Roa, AND being locked in a basement for years while Kohaku drugged him and generally fucked with his mind]]. He didn't really have much of a chance.
*** The side-story game ''Kagetsu Tohya'' gives a small amount of closure to this with the final, hidden TearJerker bonus story "Drinking, Dreaming Moon" where [[spoiler:Shiki and SHIKI finally meet on friendly terms in a [[OrWasItADream dream]].]]

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** Becoming the monster he is now can be blamed on at least three things beyond his control, [[spoiler:a combination of his particularly strong awakening of the Tohno's demon blood, being the 18th reincarnation of Roa, AND being locked in a basement for years while Kohaku drugged him and generally fucked screwed with his mind]]. He didn't really have much of a chance.
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chance. The side-story game ''Kagetsu Tohya'' gives a small amount of closure to this with the final, hidden TearJerker bonus story "Drinking, Dreaming Moon" where [[spoiler:Shiki and SHIKI finally meet on friendly terms in a [[OrWasItADream dream]].]]
1st Dec '15 8:31:50 AM ChaoticNovelist
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* AnticlimaxBoss: [[spoiler:Roa / SHIKI.]] The game made you think that he is a truly BadAss enemy that [[spoiler:even Arcueid knows isn't an easy opponent]] or [[spoiler:made Akiha increase her powers in order to destroy him]]. When we have the Shiki vs. BigBad fight, what happens? [[spoiler:Shiki kills him with very little effort]]. I know that Shiki's eyes are the killing weapons, but still...

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* AnticlimaxBoss: [[spoiler:Roa / SHIKI.]] The game made you think that he is a truly BadAss enemy that [[spoiler:even Arcueid knows isn't an easy opponent]] or [[spoiler:made Akiha increase her powers in order to destroy him]]. When we have the Shiki vs. BigBad fight, what happens? [[spoiler:Shiki kills him with very little effort]]. I know that Shiki's eyes are the killing weapons, but still...
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