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* MoralEventHorizon: The parents of the school bus kids went past the point of deserving sympathy the moment they hired the school bus driver to kill their children. The bus driver also proved to have gone beyond the pale for agreeing to do it.

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* MoralEventHorizon: The parents of the school bus kids went past the point of deserving sympathy the moment they hired the school bus driver to kill their children. The bus driver [[spoiler:Mr. Kreeg]] also proved to have gone beyond the pale for agreeing to do it.
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** Having Anna Paquin [[spoiler:fight off a vampire (albeit a pretend one) and being revealed as a werewolf]] seems like an obvious CastingGag to her role in ''Series/TrueBlood''. But the film was made a full year before the first season even premiered! It did get released after the show was on the air, though.
** Britt [=McKillip=] stars as a seemingly nice girl revealed as a BitchInSheepsClothing. She's introduced in ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' in the exact opposite way — seemingly a villain but [[spoiler: being impersonated by said villain and actually a benevolent figure]]. What's more is that Twilight Sparkle is a ShrinkingViolet and lover of specific knowledge, and Cadance is a CoolBigSis to her. [[spoiler:The exact opposite of how Macy treats Ronda.]] Mr Kreeg is also briefly watching ''WesternAnimation/ScoobyDooOnZombieIsland'', in which Creator/TaraStrong also provides the voice for [[spoiler:a BitchInSheepsClothing]].

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** Having Anna Paquin Creator/AnnaPaquin [[spoiler:fight off a vampire (albeit a pretend one) and being revealed as a werewolf]] seems like an obvious CastingGag to her role in ''Series/TrueBlood''. But the film was made a full year before the first season even premiered! It did get released after the show was on the air, though.
** Britt [=McKillip=] stars as a seemingly nice girl revealed as a BitchInSheepsClothing. She's introduced in ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' in the exact opposite way — seemingly a villain but [[spoiler: being impersonated by said villain and actually a benevolent figure]]. What's more is that Twilight Sparkle is a ShrinkingViolet and lover of specific knowledge, and Cadance is a CoolBigSis to her. [[spoiler:The exact opposite of how Macy treats Ronda.Rhonda.]] Mr Mr. Kreeg is also briefly watching ''WesternAnimation/ScoobyDooOnZombieIsland'', in which Creator/TaraStrong also provides the voice for [[spoiler:a BitchInSheepsClothing]].



*** The Film was also in a DuelingWorks situation with ''Film/SawIV'', but now an actor from that film (Athena Karkanis) is also in the My Little Pony Franchise

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*** The Film film was also in a DuelingWorks situation with ''Film/SawIV'', but now an actor from that film (Athena Karkanis) (Creator/AthenaKarkanis) is also in the My ''My Little Pony Franchise Pony'' [[Franchise/MyLittlePonyGeneration5 franchise]].

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** In the flashback only the vampire speaks, and his speech is muffled and awkward. At the end of the movie [[spoiler: he says "trick or treat" perfectly.]] Was this a case or UnreliableNarrator, since Macy was telling the story? Was he able to communicate better when he was undead? Or was this a hint that the school's kids were all drugged into compliance, and he could think and behave much more clearly now that he wasn't doped up?


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*** In the flashback only the vampire speaks, and his speech is muffled and awkward. At the end of the movie [[spoiler: he says "trick or treat" perfectly.]] Was this a case or UnreliableNarrator, since Macy was telling the story? Was he able to communicate better when he was undead? Or was this a hint that the school's kids were all drugged into compliance, and he could think and behave much more clearly now that he wasn't doped up?
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** In the flashback only the vampire speaks, and his speech is muffled and awkward. At the end of the movie [[spoiler: he says "trick or treat" perfectly.]] Was this a case or UnreliableNarrator, since Macy was telling the story? Was he able to communicate better when he was undead? Or was this a hint that the school's kids were all drugged into compliance, and he could think and behave much more clearly now that he wasn't doped up?
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*** The Film was also in a DuelingWorks situation with ''{{Film/SawIV}}'', but now an actor from that film (Athena Karkanis) is also in the My Little Pony Franchise

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*** The Film was also in a DuelingWorks situation with ''{{Film/SawIV}}'', ''Film/SawIV'', but now an actor from that film (Athena Karkanis) is also in the My Little Pony Franchise
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* VindicatedByHistory: This film's ScrewedByTheNetwork status is legendary. It was dumped on DVD two years after its intended release, apparently never to be heard from again. The combination of Dougherty's persistence in marketing his pet project, and the film's absolutely rabid fanbase, turned that around. At this point, every critic on the internet with even a passing interest in horror films has reviewed it, and every Halloween, the number of people aware of it continues to balloon. Among many horror fans, it's now seen as the standard by which all other horror-comedies, anthologies, or Halloween-related movies in general are judged.

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* VindicatedByHistory: This film's ScrewedByTheNetwork status is legendary. It was dumped on DVD two years after its intended release, apparently never to be heard from again. The combination of Dougherty's persistence in marketing his pet project, and the film's absolutely rabid fanbase, turned that around. At this point, every critic on the internet with even a passing interest in horror films has reviewed it, and every Halloween, the number of people aware of it continues to balloon. Among It's a mainstay in Spirit Hallloween stores, and among many horror fans, it's now seen as the standard by which all other horror-comedies, anthologies, or Halloween-related movies in general are judged.
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*** The Film was also in a DuelingWorks situation with ''{{Film/SawIV}}'', but now an actor from that film (Athena Karkanis) is also in the My Little Pony Franchise
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Ambiguous Disorder is now Diagnosed By The Audience, an audience reaction and an YMMV item;


*** As another layer, Rhonda is implied to have some sort of AmbiguousDisorder, which is further implied to be why she's being picked on in the first place. [[spoiler:The bus kids were killed for being Special Needs students. If they were saving her, was their motivation to defend her from being bullied for similar reasons to why they themselves were killed, in a way sticking up for her because nobody stuck up for them?]]

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*** As another layer, Rhonda [[DiagnosedByTheAudience is implied to have some sort of AmbiguousDisorder, mental disorder]], which is further implied to be why she's being picked on in the first place. [[spoiler:The bus kids were killed for being Special Needs students. If they were saving her, was their motivation to defend her from being bullied for similar reasons to why they themselves were killed, in a way sticking up for her because nobody stuck up for them?]]
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* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids: If all you saw of the film was a picture of Sam, you'd be forgiven for thinking it was a fun, mildly spooky Halloween movie suited for kids.
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* RealismInducedHorror: The circumstances surrounding the School Bus Massacre. A group of mentally disabled kids -- being raised in a time before whatever they were afflicted with would be more widely recognized, if not accepted -- were treated with scorn by their parents, who eventually paid a man to kill them all. It especially stands out in a film where most of the scares are the result of supernatural sources.
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*** It's possible that since they were so busy [[spoiler:eating]] they just didn't see him.
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* DiagnosedByTheAudience: It's not stated exactly what made the school bus kids mentally disturbed, though the implication is that they were all simply neurodivergent children stuck with terrible parents in a time before the general public was more aware of what autism and similar conditions were.
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* FanNickname: For the film itself, it's "a more Halloween-y movie than Film/{{Halloween|1978}}", and for Sam it's "Film/{{Pumpkinhead}}".
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** Even funnier when Britt does the BitchInSheepsClothing role once again in ''{{WesternAnimation/Ninjago}}''.

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** *** Even funnier when Britt does the BitchInSheepsClothing role once again in ''{{WesternAnimation/Ninjago}}''.
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** Even funnier when Britt does the BitchInSheepsClothing role once again in ''{{WesternAnimation/Ninjago}}''.
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* MagnificentBastard:
** Sam, the spirit of Halloween itself, is a diminutive being in a burlap sack who enforces the holiday rules ruthlessly. Calling up the supernatural wherever he goes, Sam is all too happy to utilize them to ensure people follow the Halloween traditions. Sam personally plays a visit to spiteful old Mr. Kreeg, terrorizing him into playing into the proper role of Halloween and handing out candy while also leaving him to the mercy of the undead children he murdered years ago, just before Sam murders a woman for blowing out a Jack O' Lantern early and leaves her body as a warning to follow the rules next time.
** "Surprise Party":
*** Laurie is an innocent-seeming young woman dressed as Red-Riding Hood, pressured by her sister Danielle and their friends to have her "first time" in town. Far from a hapless maiden, Laurie is instead attempting to lure in a victim to the "party" with her fellow werewolves to be devoured. Luring in one such man who turns out to be the serial killing Steve Wilkins, Laurie turns the tables and brings him to be her first ever kill while happily using the time to bond further with her sister.
*** Danielle is the immensely pleasant older sister of Laurie, who serves as the primary organizer of a brutal, annual ritual for Halloween. Honoring long-time tradition, Danielle leads her friends and sister in dressing up as fairy tale characters and seducing dozens of men to meet up for a "party" in the woods, Danielle offering advice to Laurie at every chance, genuinely hopeful her sister succeeds. Revealed to be a werewolf alongside her friends, Danielle leads the pack in tearing apart their "dates", Danielle personally howling in joy as Laurie consummates her status as a vicious wolf.
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*CompleteMonster: ''Days of the Dead'' comic's "Corn Maiden": Alvin Bledsoe is a [[RailroadBaron railroad executive]] seeking to expand his way west. Traveling with his daughter Sarah and subordinates, Bledsoe is frustrated by a group of Natives who refuse to move their village for his railroad. When negotiations fail, Bledsoe simply poisons the whole village to [[FinalSolution exterminate the lot of them]], using Sarah to do so and remarking that if she eats the [[RazorApples poison candy]] he sends, then "great progress requires great sacrifice."
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* HarsherInHindsight: [[spoiler: The werewolf-murder-orgy]], while cathartic, becomes this in light of Marilyn Manson, whose music is used in the scene, being met with allegations of numerous sexual crimes.
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** Even Henry can be considered one due to the fact that he found his wife's corpse and will most likely go to jail for something he didn't even do.

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** Even Henry can be considered one due to the fact that he found his wife's corpse and will most likely go to jail for something he didn't even do.

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* {{Adorkable}}: Ronda has NoSocialSkills and weirds the other children out with her encyclopedic knowledge of Halloween, and it endears her to the audience - especially her MeetCute with Schraeder.

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* {{Adorkable}}: Ronda Rhonda has NoSocialSkills and weirds the other children out with her encyclopedic knowledge of Halloween, and it endears her to the audience - especially her MeetCute with Schraeder.



** Did Rhonda think Macey and her friends were still pulling a joke on her, or did she know that the [[spoiler: ghosts of the dead school bus kids were real and just left them to die?]]
*** Alternatively, did she [[spoiler: remember Macy saying that the elevator would only hold three people safely, and thus assume that they'd throw her out and leave her to die?]]
*** Another possibility: the other children [[spoiler: had already presented themselves to Rhonda as being dead. It's possible she simply ''believed'' them...]]

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** Did Rhonda think Macey Macy and her friends were still pulling a joke on her, or did she know that the [[spoiler: ghosts [[spoiler:ghosts of the dead school bus kids were real and just left them to die?]]
*** Alternatively, did she [[spoiler: remember [[spoiler:remember Macy saying that the elevator would only hold three people safely, and thus assume that they'd throw her out and leave her to die?]]
*** Another possibility: the other children [[spoiler: had [[spoiler:had already presented themselves to Rhonda as being dead. It's possible she simply ''believed'' them...]]



*** And yet another possibility: her choice of costume, encyclopedic knowledge of Halloween, and oddly calm reaction upon seeing Sam could mean that Rhonda actually IS a young witch. Take into account that when she explains Samhain to Chip, she specifically mentions [[spoiler: human sacrifice as being an ancient tradition, and what does her leaving the others to die start to look like?]]
** Did the School Bus Kids [[spoiler: kill the other children to help Rhonda]]? Alternatively, however, jack o'lanterns seem to have a protective power in this universe, so its possible that [[spoiler: once they were smashed, the kids just unleashed their rage on whoever happened to be there]]...
*** As another layer, Rhonda is implied to have some sort of AmbiguousDisorder which is further implied to be why she's being picked on in the first place. [[spoiler: The bus kids were killed for being Special Needs students. If they were saving her, was their motivation to defend her from being bullied for similar reasons to why they themselves were killed, in a way sticking up for her because nobody stuck up for them]]?
** It's clear the [[spoiler: werewolves]] must know what Sam is if they tolerate his presence without comment. Does this mean they're friendly to him? Or just terrified of him? Or possibly be subservient to him. Alternatively, since none of the [[spoiler: werewolves]] acknowledge Sam's presence, or even glimpse at him, it is possible that he's invisible to them.

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*** And yet another possibility: her choice of costume, encyclopedic knowledge of Halloween, and oddly calm reaction upon seeing Sam could mean that Rhonda actually IS ''is'' a young witch. Take into account that when she explains Samhain to Chip, she specifically mentions [[spoiler: human [[spoiler:human sacrifice as being an ancient tradition, and what does her leaving the others to die start to look like?]]
** Did the School Bus Kids [[spoiler: kill [[spoiler:kill the other children to help Rhonda]]? Alternatively, however, jack o'lanterns seem to have a protective power in this universe, so its it's possible that [[spoiler: once [[spoiler:once they were smashed, the kids just unleashed their rage on whoever happened to be there]]...
*** As another layer, Rhonda is implied to have some sort of AmbiguousDisorder AmbiguousDisorder, which is further implied to be why she's being picked on in the first place. [[spoiler: The [[spoiler:The bus kids were killed for being Special Needs students. If they were saving her, was their motivation to defend her from being bullied for similar reasons to why they themselves were killed, in a way sticking up for her because nobody stuck up for them]]?
them?]]
** It's clear the [[spoiler: werewolves]] [[spoiler:werewolves]] must know what Sam is if they tolerate his presence without comment. Does this mean they're friendly to him? Or just terrified of him? Or possibly be subservient to him. him? Alternatively, since none of the [[spoiler: werewolves]] [[spoiler:werewolves]] acknowledge Sam's presence, or even glimpse at him, it is possible that he's invisible to them.



** While Macy was clearly hostile to Rhonda, the same can't be said for Schrader, Chip, or Sara. Furthermore, we only see those three when they're friendly to Rhonda (early on before the prank is pulled, and after they've seen the results). This leads to some interesting questions about why they did what they did. Obviously, they could just be bullies pulling a joke on an easy victim, because EvenEvilHasStandards. They could be [[PragmaticVillainy Pragmatic Villains]] who realized that Rhonda's head injury would likely get them all in serious trouble with the authorities. They might have also just been going along with Macy. On the other hand, it's possible they saw the entire exercise as a hazing ritual for Rhonda, and thought she would feel more a part of the group afterwards (...obviously they were wrong...).

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** While Macy was clearly hostile to Rhonda, the same can't be said for Schrader, Chip, or Sara. Furthermore, we only see those three when they're friendly to Rhonda (early on before the prank is pulled, and after they've seen the results). This leads to some interesting questions about why they did what they did. Obviously, they could just be bullies pulling a joke on an easy victim, because EvenEvilHasStandards. They could be [[PragmaticVillainy Pragmatic Villains]] who realized that Rhonda's head injury would likely get them all in serious trouble with the authorities. They might have also just been going along with Macy. On the other hand, it's possible they saw the entire exercise as a hazing ritual for Rhonda, and thought she would feel more a part of the group afterwards (...obviously obviously, they were wrong...).



** At the end of his segment did [[spoiler: Mr. Kreeg]] feel any remorse for his miserliness? Or was he just trying to avoid further run-ins with Sam?
* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: "Sweet Dreams" by Music/MarilynManson when [[spoiler: the werewolves transform and kill Wilkins.]]

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** At the end of his segment segment, did [[spoiler: Mr.[[spoiler:Mr. Kreeg]] feel any remorse for his miserliness? Or was he just trying to avoid further run-ins with Sam?
* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: "Sweet Dreams" by Music/MarilynManson when [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the werewolves transform and kill Wilkins.]]Wilkins]].



* CrossesTheLineTwice: Burying a body while trying to avoid detection becomes hilarious when next door's dog starts snooping, and the solution is to break off a piece off the body to distract said dog. A serial killer plays fetch with one of his victim's limbs.

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* CrossesTheLineTwice: Burying a body while trying to avoid detection becomes hilarious when next door's dog starts snooping, and the solution is to break off a piece off of the body to distract said dog. A serial killer plays fetch with one of his victim's limbs.



* DoNotDoThisCoolThing: [[spoiler: The werewolves massacre their victims in an orgy]] that is terrifying and yet gratuitously awesome, complete with sexy dancing babes [[spoiler: before they peel off their skin]] and a fun riff of "Sweet Dreams" playing over it.

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* DoNotDoThisCoolThing: [[spoiler: The [[spoiler:The werewolves massacre their victims in an orgy]] that is terrifying and yet gratuitously awesome, complete with sexy dancing babes [[spoiler: before [[spoiler:before they peel off their skin]] and a fun riff of "Sweet Dreams" playing over it.



** Having Anna Paquin [[spoiler: fight off a vampire (albeit a pretend one) and being revealed as a werewolf]] seems like an obvious CastingGag to her role in ''Series/TrueBlood''. But the film was made a full year before the first season even premiered! It did get released after the show was on the air however.
** Britt [=McKillip=] stars as a seemingly nice girl revealed as a BitchInSheepsClothing. She's introduced in ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' in the exact opposite way - seemingly a villain but [[spoiler: being impersonated by said villain and actually a benevolent figure]]. What's more is that Twilight Sparkle is a ShrinkingViolet and lover of specific knowledge, and Cadance is a CoolBigSis to her. [[spoiler: The exact opposite of how Macy treats Ronda]]. Mr Kreeg is also briefly watching ''WesternAnimation/ScoobyDooOnZombieIsland'', in which Creator/TaraStrong also provides the voice for [[spoiler: a BitchInSheepsClothing]].
* {{Moe}}: Rhonda is a shy, adorable girl implied to be on the autism spectrum - with an endearing knowledge of Halloween [[spoiler: and gets picked on unfairly]].

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** Having Anna Paquin [[spoiler: fight [[spoiler:fight off a vampire (albeit a pretend one) and being revealed as a werewolf]] seems like an obvious CastingGag to her role in ''Series/TrueBlood''. But the film was made a full year before the first season even premiered! It did get released after the show was on the air however.
air, though.
** Britt [=McKillip=] stars as a seemingly nice girl revealed as a BitchInSheepsClothing. She's introduced in ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' in the exact opposite way - seemingly a villain but [[spoiler: being impersonated by said villain and actually a benevolent figure]]. What's more is that Twilight Sparkle is a ShrinkingViolet and lover of specific knowledge, and Cadance is a CoolBigSis to her. [[spoiler: The [[spoiler:The exact opposite of how Macy treats Ronda]]. Ronda.]] Mr Kreeg is also briefly watching ''WesternAnimation/ScoobyDooOnZombieIsland'', in which Creator/TaraStrong also provides the voice for [[spoiler: a [[spoiler:a BitchInSheepsClothing]].
* {{Moe}}: Rhonda is a shy, adorable girl implied to be on the autism spectrum - with an endearing knowledge of Halloween [[spoiler: and [[spoiler:and gets picked on unfairly]].



* OlderThanTheyThink: The twist of Little Red Riding Hood [[spoiler: becoming a werewolf and fighting off the predator]] had been done in ''Film/TheCompanyOfWolves'' - although the circumstances are much different.

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* OlderThanTheyThink: The twist of Little Red Riding Hood [[spoiler: becoming [[spoiler:becoming a werewolf and fighting off the predator]] had been done in ''Film/TheCompanyOfWolves'' - although the circumstances are much different.



* SpoiledByTheFormat: When watching the movie on Creator/{{Amazon}}, their "X-Ray" feature has the potential to spoil. If one pauses the movie while the Vampire / Man In Black is on screen, the feature reveals the actor portraying him is the same as the one portraying [[spoiler: Principal Wilkins]].

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* SpoiledByTheFormat: When watching the movie on Creator/{{Amazon}}, their "X-Ray" feature has the potential to spoil. If one pauses the movie while the Vampire / Man In Black is on screen, the feature reveals the actor portraying him is the same as the one portraying [[spoiler: Principal [[spoiler:Principal Wilkins]].



** In a flashback in 'The School Bus Massacre Revisited', one of the children notices the driver taking a different road. He seems to know something is wrong, but due to whatever disorder he has, he can't do nothing more than cry while repeating "wrong way" and "I wanna go home". Also, just the fact that a man hired to keep them safe agreed to kill them in exchange for a bribe. [[OffingTheOffspring From their]] ''[[OffingTheOffspring parents.]]''

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** In a flashback in 'The School Bus Massacre Revisited', one of the children notices the driver taking a different road. He seems to know that something is wrong, but due to whatever disorder he has, he can't do nothing anything more than cry while repeating "wrong way" and "I wanna go home". Also, just the fact that a man hired to keep them safe agreed to kill them in exchange for a bribe. [[OffingTheOffspring From their]] ''[[OffingTheOffspring parents.]]''



* VindicatedByHistory: This film's ScrewedByTheNetwork status is legendary. It was dumped on DVD two years after its intended release, apparently never to be heard from again. The combination of Dougherty's persistence in marketing his pet project, and the film's absolutely rabid fanbase, turned that around. At this point every critic on the internet with even a passing interest in horror films has reviewed it, and every Halloween the number of people aware of it continues to balloon. Among many horror fans it's now seen as the standard by which all other horror-comedies, anthologies, or Halloween-related movies in general are judged.

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* VindicatedByHistory: This film's ScrewedByTheNetwork status is legendary. It was dumped on DVD two years after its intended release, apparently never to be heard from again. The combination of Dougherty's persistence in marketing his pet project, and the film's absolutely rabid fanbase, turned that around. At this point point, every critic on the internet with even a passing interest in horror films has reviewed it, and every Halloween Halloween, the number of people aware of it continues to balloon. Among many horror fans fans, it's now seen as the standard by which all other horror-comedies, anthologies, or Halloween-related movies in general are judged.



** Rhonda. She's known as "Rhonda the Retard" by other kids and [[spoiler:is almost a victim in a DeadlyPrank.]]

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** Rhonda. She's known as "Rhonda the Retard" by other kids and [[spoiler:is almost a victim in a DeadlyPrank.]] DeadlyPrank]].



** Emma. She's hot and exhausted from her heavy, awkward costume, has been dragged all over town by her man-child husband, and just wants to clean up the Halloween decorations before her mother comes over in the morning (and presumably starts to nag Emma about her housekeeping). Her reward of [[spoiler: being murdered and dismembered by Sam - and Henry possibly being falsely convicted of her murder]] seems fairly disproportionate.

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** Emma. She's hot and exhausted from her heavy, awkward costume, has been dragged all over town by her man-child husband, and just wants to clean up the Halloween decorations before her mother comes over in the morning (and presumably starts to nag Emma about her housekeeping). Her reward of [[spoiler: being [[spoiler:being murdered and dismembered by Sam - and Henry possibly being falsely convicted of her murder]] murder —]] seems fairly disproportionate.
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** With the knowledge that [[spoiler:Laurie and her friends are werewolves]], their opening conversation becomes darkly hilarious.

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