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** "[[http://web.archive.org/web/20180219004136/http://www.transformersclub.com/prose/coalescence.pdf Coalescence]]": [[MultiversalConqueror The Fallen]] escapes from his defeat in an undefined universe and retreats into the ''Shattered Glass'' universe. There, he discovers the nature of negative-polarity universes, and plots to conquer them all. [[ManipulativeBastard Deceiving the Underbase staff into serving him]], The Fallen has them build a portal to the multiverse that requires "components" to work, said "components" being [[PoweredByAForsakenChild organic brains in cybernetic bodies]], while also forcing his zealously loyal follower Sunstorm to use his fire powers to thaw him out from the ice that freezes him, [[BadBoss apathetic to the fact that using too much power will kill Sunstorm]]. Under The Fallen's servitude, agents of the Underbase deceive organic aliens of all kinds into becoming "components" under false promises, and then use them as [[LivingBattery batteries]], painfully electrocuting them in the process. When Cyclonus, Darkwing and Crasher arrive to find and save their human friends, The Fallen attempts to kill them, [[PragmaticVillainy sparing them only because Crasher's unique brain allows her to be used as a "component"]]. Once the multiversal portal was ready, The Fallen sends his servants to inspect the universes it leads to, and if they're not negative-polarity universes, he demands the portal be shut down until the next trial, [[LackOfEmpathy permanently trapping his servants on the other side]] and [[LackOfEmpathy showing no concern for their lives even if they're killed]]. Even in the MirrorUniverse, The Fallen proves that he will remain an irredeemable monster whenever he manifests himself in the multiverse, [[EvenEvilHasStandards appalling even his own troops]].

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** "[[http://web.[[https://web.archive.org/web/20180219004136/http://www.transformersclub.org/web/20190312113538if_/http://transformersclub.com/prose/coalescence.pdf Coalescence]]": "Coalescence"]]: [[MultiversalConqueror The Fallen]] escapes from his defeat in an undefined universe and retreats into the ''Shattered Glass'' universe. There, he discovers the nature of negative-polarity universes, and plots to conquer them all. [[ManipulativeBastard Deceiving the Underbase staff into serving him]], The Fallen has them build a portal to the multiverse that requires "components" to work, said "components" being [[PoweredByAForsakenChild organic brains in cybernetic bodies]], while also forcing his zealously loyal follower Sunstorm to use his fire powers to thaw him out from the ice that freezes him, [[BadBoss apathetic to the fact that using too much power will kill Sunstorm]]. Under The Fallen's servitude, agents of the Underbase deceive organic aliens of all kinds into becoming "components" under false promises, and then use them as [[LivingBattery batteries]], painfully electrocuting them in the process. When Cyclonus, Darkwing and Crasher arrive to find and save their human friends, The Fallen attempts to kill them, [[PragmaticVillainy sparing them only because Crasher's unique brain allows her to be used as a "component"]]. Once the multiversal portal was ready, The Fallen sends his servants to inspect the universes it leads to, and if they're not negative-polarity universes, he demands the portal be shut down until the next trial, [[LackOfEmpathy permanently trapping his servants on the other side]] and [[LackOfEmpathy showing no concern for their lives even if they're killed]]. Even in the MirrorUniverse, The Fallen proves that he will remain an irredeemable monster whenever he manifests himself in the multiverse, [[EvenEvilHasStandards appalling even his own troops]].

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Thanks to his AscendedMeme status and general adorableness, Ravage gained a lot of fans. Pictures of him waving with variations on his CatchPhrase "Can U C me totally waving @ U!!!!!!" are common, and often even people who don't know much about the rest of the continuity will still know all about him, despite him being a very minor character in the actual plot.
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Thanks to his AscendedMeme status and general adorableness, Ravage gained a lot of fans. Pictures of him waving with variations on his CatchPhrase "Can U C me totally waving @ U!!!!!!" are common, and often even people who don't know much about the rest of the continuity will still know all about him, despite him being a very minor character in the actual plot.
%%** Grimlock.** The articulate criminal genius supreme Grimlock from the original comic was just part of the AprilFools joke taking the whole MirrorUniverse concept to its silly extreme, but he proved so popular that the Grimlock from the actual comic eventually underwent an upgrade to become just like him

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* EnsembleDarkhorse:
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** Thanks to his AscendedMeme status and general adorableness, Ravage gained a lot of fans. Pictures of him waving with variations on his CatchPhrase "Can U C me totally waving @ U!!!!!!" are common, and often even people who don't know much about the rest of the continuity will still know all about him, despite him being a very minor character in the actual plot.

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EnsembleDarkhorse: Thanks to his AscendedMeme status and general adorableness, Ravage gained a lot of fans. Pictures of him waving with variations on his CatchPhrase "Can U C me totally waving @ U!!!!!!" are common, and often even people who don't know much about the rest of the continuity will still know all about him, despite him being a very minor character in the actual plot.plot.
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* IronWoobie: Megatron.

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** [[AxCrazy Ultra Magnus]] was locked up in his universe for trying to usurp Optimus Prime, getting his face ripped off in the process. He and several others travel to earth, where he assimilates numerous Autobots into the Junkion hordes, resulting in them becoming mindless slaves and dead in all but name. After that, he proceeds to set up a plan to take rarified energon from Earth with his sword and destroy it. His plan is foiled when a shield is placed around the Earth, but his real plan was to [[OmnicidalManiac cause the death of the entire universe]]. Even the normal Decepticons turned against him, as they wanted to be the conquerors, and [[EvenEvilHasStandards were appalled]] when they realized the extent of the damage.

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** [[AxCrazy Ultra Magnus]] was locked up in his universe for trying to usurp Optimus Prime, getting his face ripped off in the process. He and several others travel to earth, Earth, where he assimilates numerous Autobots into the Junkion hordes, resulting in them becoming mindless slaves and dead in all but name. After that, he proceeds to set up a plan to take rarified energon from Earth with his sword and destroy it. His plan is foiled when a shield is placed around the Earth, but his real plan was to [[OmnicidalManiac cause the death of the entire universe]]. Even the normal Decepticons turned against him, as they wanted to be the conquerors, and [[EvenEvilHasStandards were appalled]] when they realized the extent of the damage.
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* TheWoobie: SariSari Sumdac's Shattered Glass counterpart comes off as very sympathetic due to her father being abusive towards her and using her as a weapon.

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* CompleteMonster: [[AxCrazy Ultra Magnus]] was locked up in his universe for trying to usurp Optimus Prime, getting his face ripped off in the process. He and several others travel to earth, where he assimilates numerous Autobots into the Junkion hordes, resulting in them becoming mindless slaves and dead in all but name. After that, he proceeds to set up a plan to take rarified energon from Earth with his sword and destroy it. His plan is foiled when a shield is placed around the Earth, but his real plan was to [[OmnicidalManiac cause the death of the entire universe]]. Even the normal Decepticons turned against him, as they wanted to be the conquerors, and [[EvenEvilHasStandards were appalled]] when they realized the extent of the damage.

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[[AxCrazy Ultra Magnus]] was locked up in his universe for trying to usurp Optimus Prime, getting his face ripped off in the process. He and several others travel to earth, where he assimilates numerous Autobots into the Junkion hordes, resulting in them becoming mindless slaves and dead in all but name. After that, he proceeds to set up a plan to take rarified energon from Earth with his sword and destroy it. His plan is foiled when a shield is placed around the Earth, but his real plan was to [[OmnicidalManiac cause the death of the entire universe]]. Even the normal Decepticons turned against him, as they wanted to be the conquerors, and [[EvenEvilHasStandards were appalled]] when they realized the extent of the damage.damage.
** "[[http://web.archive.org/web/20180219004136/http://www.transformersclub.com/prose/coalescence.pdf Coalescence]]": [[MultiversalConqueror The Fallen]] escapes from his defeat in an undefined universe and retreats into the ''Shattered Glass'' universe. There, he discovers the nature of negative-polarity universes, and plots to conquer them all. [[ManipulativeBastard Deceiving the Underbase staff into serving him]], The Fallen has them build a portal to the multiverse that requires "components" to work, said "components" being [[PoweredByAForsakenChild organic brains in cybernetic bodies]], while also forcing his zealously loyal follower Sunstorm to use his fire powers to thaw him out from the ice that freezes him, [[BadBoss apathetic to the fact that using too much power will kill Sunstorm]]. Under The Fallen's servitude, agents of the Underbase deceive organic aliens of all kinds into becoming "components" under false promises, and then use them as [[LivingBattery batteries]], painfully electrocuting them in the process. When Cyclonus, Darkwing and Crasher arrive to find and save their human friends, The Fallen attempts to kill them, [[PragmaticVillainy sparing them only because Crasher's unique brain allows her to be used as a "component"]]. Once the multiversal portal was ready, The Fallen sends his servants to inspect the universes it leads to, and if they're not negative-polarity universes, he demands the portal be shut down until the next trial, [[LackOfEmpathy permanently trapping his servants on the other side]] and [[LackOfEmpathy showing no concern for their lives even if they're killed]]. Even in the MirrorUniverse, The Fallen proves that he will remain an irredeemable monster whenever he manifests himself in the multiverse, [[EvenEvilHasStandards appalling even his own troops]].
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* MagnificentBastard: Rodimus.

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* TheWoobie: Sari.

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* UnexpectedCharacter: Not Optimus himself, but [[spoiler: nobody was expecting Unicron to reformat him into ''Nova Prime'', and especially not [[http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/3/3b/Timelinestoy-NovaPrime.jpg this ]] Nova Prime]].
* TheWoobie: Sari.Sari

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* BrokenBase: The series's fans love the new ideas presented by the MirrorUniverse and feel the story potential and characters are great twists on the classics. Non-fans feel the series is a negative example of RunningTheAsylum, and contains more winks at the franchise than plot.



* LoveItOrHateIt: The series's fans love the new ideas presented by the MirrorUniverse and feel the story potential and characters are great twists on the classics. Non-fans feel the series is overly reliant on RunningTheAsylum (even more so than other TF series), and contains more winks at the franchise than plot.
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* TheWoobie: SG!Sari.

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* TheWoobie: SG!Sari.Sari.

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* CrazyAwesome: It's a bit hard to figure out where to start...
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* CrazyAwesome: It's a bit hard to figure out where to start...
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* MagnificentBastard: Rodimus

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* MagnificentBastard: RodimusRodimus.

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* CompleteMonster: [[AxCrazy Ultra Magnus]] was locked up in his universe for trying to usurp Optimus Prime (and also got his face ripped off). He and several others travel to earth, where he assimilates numerous Autobots into the Junkion hordes (becoming mindless slaves and dead in all but name). After that, he proceeds to set up a plan to take rarified energon from Earth with his sword and destroy it. His plan is foiled when a shield is placed around the Earth, but his real plan was to [[OmnicidalManiac cause the death of the entire universe]]. Even the Normal Decepticons turned against him (They wanted to be the conquerors) and [[EvenEvilHasStandards were appalled]] when they realized the extent of the damage.

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* CompleteMonster: [[AxCrazy Ultra Magnus]] was locked up in his universe for trying to usurp Optimus Prime (and also got Prime, getting his face ripped off). off in the process. He and several others travel to earth, where he assimilates numerous Autobots into the Junkion hordes (becoming hordes, resulting in them becoming mindless slaves and dead in all but name).name. After that, he proceeds to set up a plan to take rarified energon from Earth with his sword and destroy it. His plan is foiled when a shield is placed around the Earth, but his real plan was to [[OmnicidalManiac cause the death of the entire universe]]. Even the Normal normal Decepticons turned against him (They him, as they wanted to be the conquerors) conquerors, and [[EvenEvilHasStandards were appalled]] when they realized the extent of the damage.

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* IronWoobie: Megatron.
* LoveItOrHateIt: The series's fans love the new ideas presented by the MirrorUniverse and feel the story potential and characters are great twists on the classics. Non-fans feel the series is overly reliant on RunningTheAsylum (even more so than other TF series), and contains more winks at the franchise than plot.



** IronWoobie: Megatron.

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* CompleteMonster: Ultra Magnus was locked up in his universe for trying to usurp Optimus (and he got his face ripped off in addition to failing). He and several others travel to earth, where he assimilates numerous Autobots into the Junkion hordes (becoming mindless slaves and dead in all but name). After that, he proceeds to set up a plan to take rarified energon from earth with his sword and destroy it. His plan is foiled when a shield is placed around the earth but [[spoiler: his real plan was to actually cause the death of the entire universe! He just destroyed a reality!]] Even the Normal Decepticons turned against him (They wanted to be the conquerors) and [[EvenEvilHasStandards were appalled]] when they realized the extent of the damage.

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* CompleteMonster: [[AxCrazy Ultra Magnus Magnus]] was locked up in his universe for trying to usurp Optimus Prime (and he also got his face ripped off in addition to failing).off). He and several others travel to earth, where he assimilates numerous Autobots into the Junkion hordes (becoming mindless slaves and dead in all but name). After that, he proceeds to set up a plan to take rarified energon from earth Earth with his sword and destroy it. His plan is foiled when a shield is placed around the earth Earth, but [[spoiler: his real plan was to actually [[OmnicidalManiac cause the death of the entire universe! He just destroyed a reality!]] universe]]. Even the Normal Decepticons turned against him (They wanted to be the conquerors) and [[EvenEvilHasStandards were appalled]] when they realized the extent of the damage.
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* RunningTheAsylum: The series seems to be treading a ''very'' thin line between canon and fanfic.
** Becomes outright funny if [[http://web.archive.org/web/20081207033622/http://mirrorverse.transfactions.net/main.html you knew that there had been a fan-made writer's collective dedicated entirely to this premise years beforehand]] and that the name of the original forum on which the whole idea first launched was [[http://thepaddedcell71381.yuku.com/ The Padded Cell]].

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* CompleteMonster: Ultra Magnus was locked up in his universe for trying to usurp Optimus (and he got his face ripped off in addition to failing). He and several others travel to earth, where he assimilates numerous Autobots into the Junkion hordes (becoming mindless slaves and dead in all but name). After that, he proceeds to set up a plan to take rarified energon from earth with his sword and destroy it. His plan is foiled when a shield is placed around the earth but [[spoiler: his real plan was to actually cause the death of the entire universe! He just destroyed a reality!]] Even the Normal Decepticons, turned against him (They wanted to be the conquerors) and were appalled when they realized the extent of the damage.

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* CompleteMonster: Ultra Magnus was locked up in his universe for trying to usurp Optimus (and he got his face ripped off in addition to failing). He and several others travel to earth, where he assimilates numerous Autobots into the Junkion hordes (becoming mindless slaves and dead in all but name). After that, he proceeds to set up a plan to take rarified energon from earth with his sword and destroy it. His plan is foiled when a shield is placed around the earth but [[spoiler: his real plan was to actually cause the death of the entire universe! He just destroyed a reality!]] Even the Normal Decepticons, Decepticons turned against him (They wanted to be the conquerors) and [[EvenEvilHasStandards were appalled appalled]] when they realized the extent of the damage.

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* CompleteMonster: Ultra Magnus. An unrepentant BloodKnight, he essentially became an OmnicidalManiac wanting to destroy a universe because he was ''bored''.

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* CompleteMonster: Ultra Magnus. An unrepentant BloodKnight, he essentially became an OmnicidalManiac wanting to destroy a Magnus was locked up in his universe because for trying to usurp Optimus (and he got his face ripped off in addition to failing). He and several others travel to earth, where he assimilates numerous Autobots into the Junkion hordes (becoming mindless slaves and dead in all but name). After that, he proceeds to set up a plan to take rarified energon from earth with his sword and destroy it. His plan is foiled when a shield is placed around the earth but [[spoiler: his real plan was ''bored''.to actually cause the death of the entire universe! He just destroyed a reality!]] Even the Normal Decepticons, turned against him (They wanted to be the conquerors) and were appalled when they realized the extent of the damage.
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** IronWoobie: Megatron.
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* RunningTheAsylum: The entire series seems to be treading a ''very'' thin line between canon and fanfic.

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* RunningTheAsylum: The entire series seems to be treading a ''very'' thin line between canon and fanfic.
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* TheWoobie: SG!Sari.

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* TheWoobie: SG!Sari.SG!Sari.
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* CompleteMonster: Ultra Magnus. An unrepentant BloodKnight, he essentially became an OmnicidalManiac wanting to destroy a universe because he was ''bored''.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Ravage and Grimlock.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Grimlock
** Thanks to his AscendedMeme status and general adorableness,
Ravage gained a lot of fans. Pictures of him waving with variations on his CatchPhrase "Can U C me totally waving @ U!!!!!!" are common, and Grimlock.often even people who don't know much about the rest of the continuity will still know all about him, despite him being a very minor character in the actual plot.


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* HoYay: Starscream's behavior around Megatron tends to vacillate between "fussing mother hen" and "teenage schoolgirl with a crush".
* MagnificentBastard: Rodimus
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Ravage and Grimlock.
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** Becomes outright funny if [[http://web.archive.org/web/20081207033622/http://mirrorverse.transfactions.net/main.html you knew that there had been a fan-made writer's collective dedicated entirely to this premise years beforehand]] and that the name of the original forum on which the whole idea first launched was [[http://thepaddedcell71381.yuku.com/ The Padded Cell]].
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* RunningTheAsylum: The entire series seems to be treading a ''very'' thin line between canon and fanfic.

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* RunningTheAsylum: The entire series seems to be treading a ''very'' thin line between canon and fanfic.fanfic.
* TheWoobie: SG!Sari.
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* MemeticMutation: Ravage is the one waving!

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