History YMMV / TheWaltons

29th Dec '17 8:21:55 PM Maddoxsort
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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Several fans dislike Season 9, mainly because of the different actor for John-Boy and the episodes that focus on the sons fighting in the war, because it drifted away from the innocence of the past seasons (yet ironically, that ''was'' the point of airing those episodes- to portray how the war affected everyone). Also, by this point, four of the original cast members had left. Thankfully, the reunion movies of TheNineties brought back Richard Thomas and the Walton elders as well as nearly ever other original recurring cast member, invoked a refreshing TimeSkip to TheSixties, and injected a new level of drama into the show, as well as the shocking news that [[spoiler:Erin's crummy luck with lovers came back with a vengeance and her husband philandered his way to divorce, and that Ben and Cindy's baby Virginia had died in a drowning accident]], as well as the uplifting surprises that [[spoiler:John-Boy was ''finally'' getting married to someone and Elizabeth and Drew rekindled their romance once and for all]]. They were faithful enough to the original that it rekindled the old spirit of the show.

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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Several fans dislike Season 9, mainly because of the different actor for John-Boy and the episodes that focus on the sons fighting in the war, because it drifted away from the innocence of the past seasons (yet ironically, that ''was'' the point of airing those episodes- to portray how the war affected everyone). Also, by this point, four of the original cast members had left. Thankfully, the reunion movies of TheNineties brought back Richard Thomas and the Walton elders as well as nearly ever every other original recurring cast member, invoked a refreshing TimeSkip to TheSixties, and injected a new level of drama into the show, as well as the shocking news that [[spoiler:Erin's crummy luck with lovers came back with a vengeance and her husband philandered his way to divorce, and that Ben and Cindy's baby Virginia had died in a drowning accident]], as well as the uplifting surprises that [[spoiler:John-Boy was ''finally'' getting married to someone and Elizabeth and Drew rekindled their romance once and for all]]. They were faithful enough to the original that it rekindled the old spirit of the show.
29th Dec '17 8:21:29 PM Maddoxsort
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** Beforehand, the episode "The Long Night" is an utter heart-breaker because Zeb goes off the deep end waiting for Esther to come out of the hospital and gets the false hope that she'll be released. The fact that it was written by the most people ever working in collaboration on a single story on the show is a testament to how difficult and intense it was to produce this one episode (Teleplay by: Claire Whitaker & Rod Peterson; Story by: Katharyn Michaelian Powers and Claire Whitaker & Rod Peterson), and the BittersweetEnding doesn't really help. We don't see Esther at all except for a brief ImagineSpot where Zeb sees her in the mirror as he remembers dancing with her, because her actor is still recuperating from her stroke.

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** Beforehand, the episode "The Long Night" is an utter heart-breaker because Zeb goes off the deep end waiting for Esther to come out of the hospital and gets the false hope that she'll be released. The fact that it was written by the most people ever working in collaboration on a single story on the show is a testament to how difficult and intense it was to produce this one episode (Teleplay by: Claire Whitaker & Rod Peterson; Story by: Katharyn Michaelian Powers and Claire Whitaker & Rod Peterson), and the BittersweetEnding doesn't really help. We don't see Esther at all except for a brief ImagineSpot where Zeb sees her in the mirror as he remembers dancing with her, her after rescuing a glass window she treasured from a church and dancing like the did in said church, because her actor is still recuperating from her stroke.
29th Dec '17 8:18:43 PM Maddoxsort
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** [[spoiler:Curt]] was initially introduced after his actor played a one-off character, invoking the YouLookFamiliar trope. When [[spoiler:Curt]] returns in season 9, he is acting completely different from the man we knew him to be and even his wife can't recognize him. He's being played by an ''[[TheOtherDarrin entirely different actor]]''' who has a ''much'' meaner-looking face to match the [[TookALevelInCynic dark turn his character has taken]]. In other words, new [[spoiler:Curt]] is behaving like a total stranger because he really ''is'' a total stranger to the audience itself.

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** [[spoiler:Curt]] was initially introduced after his actor played a one-off character, invoking the YouLookFamiliar trope. When [[spoiler:Curt]] returns in season 9, he is acting completely different from the man we knew him to be and even his wife can't recognize him. He's being played by an ''[[TheOtherDarrin entirely different actor]]''' actor]]'' who has a ''much'' meaner-looking face to match the [[TookALevelInCynic dark turn his character has taken]]. In other words, new [[spoiler:Curt]] is behaving like a total stranger because he really ''is'' a total stranger to the audience itself.
29th Dec '17 8:18:20 PM Maddoxsort
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** The worst offender of all bar none, is this one. In the season 2 episode "The Honeymoon", Esther has agreed to be a chaperone for children and is away while Zeb cares for the household while John and Olivia finally make good on a long overdue honeymoon. When she comes back home, Esther has [[PlayedForLaughs lost her voice]] from yelling at those rambunctious children too much and given herself laryngitis. Zeb is all too eager to joke that this is the first time she's been rendered speechless and he can finally get a word in edgewise. Halfway through the production of season 5, Ellen Corby had a devastating stroke that damaged her speech center and nearly rendered her mute. When her character comes back at the end of Season 6, Esther really ''[[PlayedForDrama can't]]'' speak coherently anymore and will '''never''' do so again, which leads to her character CommutingOnABus because there is precious little her character can contribute to the story without the ability to talk and interact without the demeaning presence of other actors conveying her actions for her like a baby.

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** The worst offender of all all, bar none, is this one.the following example. In the season 2 episode "The Honeymoon", Esther has agreed to be a chaperone for children and is away while Zeb cares for the household while John and Olivia finally make good on a long overdue honeymoon. When she comes back home, Esther has [[PlayedForLaughs lost her voice]] from yelling at those rambunctious children too much and given herself laryngitis. Zeb is all too eager to joke that this is the first time she's been rendered speechless and he can finally get a word in edgewise. Halfway through the production of season 5, Ellen Corby had a devastating stroke that damaged her speech center and nearly rendered her mute. When her character comes back at the end of Season 6, Esther really ''[[PlayedForDrama can't]]'' speak coherently anymore and will '''never''' do so again, which leads to her character CommutingOnABus because there is precious little her character can contribute to the story without the ability to talk and interact without the demeaning presence of other actors conveying her actions for her like a baby.
29th Dec '17 8:12:33 PM Maddoxsort
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** When [[spoiler:Curt]] returns in season 9, he is acting completely different from the man we knew him to be and even his wife can't recognize him. He's being played by an [[TheOtherDarrin entirely different actor]] who has a ''much'' meaner-looking face to make the [[TookALevelInCynic dark turn his character has taken]].

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** [[spoiler:Curt]] was initially introduced after his actor played a one-off character, invoking the YouLookFamiliar trope. When [[spoiler:Curt]] returns in season 9, he is acting completely different from the man we knew him to be and even his wife can't recognize him. He's being played by an [[TheOtherDarrin ''[[TheOtherDarrin entirely different actor]] actor]]''' who has a ''much'' meaner-looking face to make match the [[TookALevelInCynic dark turn his character has taken]].taken]]. In other words, new [[spoiler:Curt]] is behaving like a total stranger because he really ''is'' a total stranger to the audience itself.
29th Dec '17 8:09:27 PM Maddoxsort
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** Every single time that Grandpa Zeb jokes about living to 100. He only made it a little over three-quarters of the way in the end.

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** Every single time that Grandpa Zeb jokes about living to 100.101. He only made it a little over three-quarters of the way in the end.
29th Dec '17 8:08:28 PM Maddoxsort
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** The worst offender of all bar none, is this one. In the season 2 episode "The Honeymoon", Esther has agreed to be a chaperone for children and is away while Zeb cares for the household while John and Olivia finally make good on a long overdue honeymoon. When she comes back home, Esther has [[PlayedForLaughs lost her voice]] from yelling at those rambunctious children too much and given herself laryngitis. Zeb is all tpo eager to joke that this is the first time she's been rendered speechless and he can finally get a word in edgewise. Halfway through the production of season 5, Ellen Corby had a devastating stroke that damaged her speech center and nearly rendered her mute. When her character comes back at the end of Season 6, Esther really ''[[PlayedForDrama can't]]'' speak coherently anymore and will never do so again, which leads to her character CommutingOnABus because there is precious little her character can contribute to the story without the ability to talk and interact without the demeaning presence of other actors conveying her actions for her like a baby.

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** The worst offender of all bar none, is this one. In the season 2 episode "The Honeymoon", Esther has agreed to be a chaperone for children and is away while Zeb cares for the household while John and Olivia finally make good on a long overdue honeymoon. When she comes back home, Esther has [[PlayedForLaughs lost her voice]] from yelling at those rambunctious children too much and given herself laryngitis. Zeb is all tpo too eager to joke that this is the first time she's been rendered speechless and he can finally get a word in edgewise. Halfway through the production of season 5, Ellen Corby had a devastating stroke that damaged her speech center and nearly rendered her mute. When her character comes back at the end of Season 6, Esther really ''[[PlayedForDrama can't]]'' speak coherently anymore and will never '''never''' do so again, which leads to her character CommutingOnABus because there is precious little her character can contribute to the story without the ability to talk and interact without the demeaning presence of other actors conveying her actions for her like a baby.
29th Dec '17 8:07:51 PM Maddoxsort
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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: In the season 2 episode "The Honeymoon", Esther has agreed to be a chaperone for children and is away while Zeb cares for the household while John and Olivia finally make good on a long overdue honeymoon. When she comes back home, Esther has [[PlayedForLaughs lost her voice]] from yelling at those rambunctious children too much and given herself laryngitis. Zeb is all to eager to joke that this is the first time she's been rendered speechless and he can finally get a word in edgewise. Halfway through the production of season 5, Ellen Corby had a devastating stroke that damaged her speech center and nearly rendered her mute. When her character comes back at the end of Season 6, Esther really ''[[PlayedForDrama can't]]'' speak coherently anymore and will never do so again, which leads to her character CommutingOnABus because there is precious little her character can contribute to the story without the ability to talk and interact without the demeaning presence of other actors conveying her actions for her like a baby.

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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: FunnyAneurysmMoment:
** The worst offender of all bar none, is this one.
In the season 2 episode "The Honeymoon", Esther has agreed to be a chaperone for children and is away while Zeb cares for the household while John and Olivia finally make good on a long overdue honeymoon. When she comes back home, Esther has [[PlayedForLaughs lost her voice]] from yelling at those rambunctious children too much and given herself laryngitis. Zeb is all to tpo eager to joke that this is the first time she's been rendered speechless and he can finally get a word in edgewise. Halfway through the production of season 5, Ellen Corby had a devastating stroke that damaged her speech center and nearly rendered her mute. When her character comes back at the end of Season 6, Esther really ''[[PlayedForDrama can't]]'' speak coherently anymore and will never do so again, which leads to her character CommutingOnABus because there is precious little her character can contribute to the story without the ability to talk and interact without the demeaning presence of other actors conveying her actions for her like a baby.
10th Apr '17 6:34:13 PM Maddoxsort
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** During a checkup in "The Grandchild", Curt jokes to Flossie Brimmer, in one of her very last appearances, that she is fat. During the interim between this season and the last, her actor died, in part because she was too overweight.



** Seeing John and Olivia HappilyMarried from the get-go, yet how many mayfly romances the Walton children go through with [[OneShotCharacter characters of the week]] due to RuleOfDrama tearing them apart by the end of each episode, then finally landing the loved ones of their dreams much, much later is tough to stomach when you research the real life actors and find ''nearly all of the main cast has at least one failed marriage to their name, even the Godseys.'' In other words, the happy, innocent TV family they all portrayed was in contrast to having real lives where nobody could have lasting happiness or reconciliation.

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** Seeing John and Olivia HappilyMarried from the get-go, yet how many mayfly romances the Walton children go through with [[OneShotCharacter characters of the week]] due to RuleOfDrama tearing them apart by the end of each episode, then finally landing the loved ones of their dreams much, much later later, is tough to stomach when you research the real life actors and find ''nearly all of the main cast has at least one failed marriage to their name, even the Godseys.'' In other words, the happy, innocent TV family they all portrayed was in contrast to having real lives where nobody could have lasting happiness or reconciliation.
10th Apr '17 6:28:52 PM Maddoxsort
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** The very last story of ''The Waltons'' series took place in 1969. In the pilot special, we learned from an older John-Boy's narration that this is the year John Walton Sr., his father, would die. Since Esther Walton is still alive for at least this story, it's possible that she outlived her husband and son.
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