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* BrokenAesop: The two trilogies each end in ways that come off as mutually-exclusive in what they're saying.
** [[spoiler:At the end of ''The Road to Unity'', which has devoted time to examining the cost of being a hero, Luke and Seven's retirement to raise a family is depicted in a positive light, despite the bittersweetness of how many lives were lost in the conflict. This is all rather spoiled, however, in that with the rebirth of the Galactic Empire and Luke's return to Tatooine, everything said heroes fought for has been rendered null and void]].
** [[spoiler:And then ''The Price of Unity'' has the opposite conclusion, that Sebastian Skywalker really is the one person who can unity the Galaxies and shall have to devote his whole life to it. While the trilogy does stick to its predecessor's ethos that heroes are flawed, fallible people beneath their reputation, it's hard not to feel it'd have been kinder of his parents to continue the damn fight instead of foisting this inhuman responsibility upon him]].
** Following from the above, it's never really made all that clear why Unity under the domination of a single leader à la Genghis Khan or Alexander The Great would be preferable or more viable than the humanistic ideals of TheFederation. The story itself notes that Alexander's empire fell apart after his death. Except, at the end of the day, no real reason is given as to why Unity would survive Sebastian. In effect, Unity was formed from the conquest of different races that have no motivation to work together, other than against a common enemy or out of veneration for a leader-figure who will eventually die. While ''Franchise/StarTrek'' and ''Franchise/StarWars'' may each be somewhat naive in their traditionally idealistic portrayal of people, the UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans mindset of the Unity Saga winds up feeling more out-of-touch than either of its inspirations.
** [[spoiler:At the end of ''The Road to Unity'', which has devoted time to examining the cost of being a hero, Luke and Seven's retirement to raise a family is depicted in a positive light, despite the bittersweetness of how many lives were lost in the conflict. This is all rather spoiled, however, in that with the rebirth of the Galactic Empire and Luke's return to Tatooine, everything said heroes fought for has been rendered null and void]].
** [[spoiler:And then ''The Price of Unity'' has the opposite conclusion, that Sebastian Skywalker really is the one person who can unity the Galaxies and shall have to devote his whole life to it. While the trilogy does stick to its predecessor's ethos that heroes are flawed, fallible people beneath their reputation, it's hard not to feel it'd have been kinder of his parents to continue the damn fight instead of foisting this inhuman responsibility upon him]].
** Following from the above, it's never really made all that clear why Unity under the domination of a single leader à la Genghis Khan or Alexander The Great would be preferable or more viable than the humanistic ideals of TheFederation. The story itself notes that Alexander's empire fell apart after his death. Except, at the end of the day, no real reason is given as to why Unity would survive Sebastian. In effect, Unity was formed from the conquest of different races that have no motivation to work together, other than against a common enemy or out of veneration for a leader-figure who will eventually die. While ''Franchise/StarTrek'' and ''Franchise/StarWars'' may each be somewhat naive in their traditionally idealistic portrayal of people, the UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans mindset of the Unity Saga winds up feeling more out-of-touch than either of its inspirations.
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** You have to wonder if Chuck didn't plant ideas in Rian Johnson or Alex Kurtzman's heads for the "deconstruction" of heroes, considering how the Unity Saga puts [[Film/TheLastJedi Luke Skywalker]] and ''especially'' [[Series/StarTrekPicard Jean-Luc Picard]] through the wringer.
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* DracoInLeatherPants: Chuck's love of Benjamin Sisko is taken perhaps a tad too far in making Sisko TheChessmaster, and eventually [[spoiler: the one secretly inhabiting Palpatine's body]] after the Empire comes back to power. This gets particularly blatant when Luke, aware of the ruse, notes at one point that he "senses no evil" within the possessed [[spoiler: Emperor]]. While Sisko may not have been a ''bad'' guy per se, his whole point as a character in [=DS9=] was that of a ''Star Trek'' captain with a darker streak than previous series had depicted until then.
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* DracoInLeatherPants: Chuck's love of Benjamin Sisko is taken perhaps a tad too far in making Sisko TheChessmaster, and eventually [[spoiler: the one secretly inhabiting Palpatine's body]] after the Empire comes back to power. This gets particularly blatant when Luke, Leia, aware of the ruse, notes at one point that he "senses no there is "no trace of evil" within the possessed [[spoiler: Emperor]]. While Sisko may not have been a ''bad'' guy per se, his whole point as a character in [=DS9=] was that of a ''Star Trek'' captain with a darker streak than previous series had depicted until then.
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* RonTheDeathEater: Janeway is similarly afflicted, albeit in the opposite direction, especially once she becomes [[spoiler: the Oracle]]. Granted, Janeway was always a [[BrokenBase controversial]] captain, but Chuck's narrative decision to follow his humorous interpretation of her as out-and-out evil and ''play it straight'' ends up erasing any nuance her character may have had. Ironically, the story appears to be aware of this and attempt to avoid having her look UnintentionallySympathetic; in ''Dawn of Forever'', characters note the one thing she wouldn't do is seek to destroy Earth, only for Janeway to push forward in trying exactly that, at which point it feels less like it is the Dark Side than the author pulling her strings.
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* RonTheDeathEater: Janeway Janeway's characterisation is similarly afflicted, afflicted by the author's biases as Ben Sisko's entry under DracoInLeatherPants, albeit in the opposite direction, especially once she becomes [[spoiler: the Oracle]]. Granted, Janeway was always a [[BrokenBase controversial]] captain, but Chuck's narrative decision to follow his humorous interpretation of her as out-and-out evil and ''play it straight'' ends up erasing any nuance her character may have had. had.
** Ironically, the story appears to be aware of this and attempt to avoid having her look UnintentionallySympathetic; in ''Dawn of Forever'', characters note the one thing she wouldn't do is seek to destroy Earth, only for Janeway to push forward in trying exactly that, at which point it feels less like it is the Dark Side than the author pulling her strings.
** Ironically, the story appears to be aware of this and attempt to avoid having her look UnintentionallySympathetic; in ''Dawn of Forever'', characters note the one thing she wouldn't do is seek to destroy Earth, only for Janeway to push forward in trying exactly that, at which point it feels less like it is the Dark Side than the author pulling her strings.
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** RonTheDeathEater: Janeway is similarly afflicted, albeit in the opposite direction, especially once she becomes [[spoiler: the Oracle]]. Granted, Janeway was always a [[BrokenBase controversial]] captain, but Chuck's narrative decision to follow his humorous interpretation of her as out-and-out evil and ''play it straight'' ends up erasing any nuance her character may have had. Ironically, the story appears to be aware of this and attempt to avoid having her look UnintentionallySympathetic; in ''Dawn of Forever'', characters note the one thing she wouldn't do is seek to destroy Earth, only for Janeway to push forward in trying exactly that, at which point it feels less like it is the Dark Side than the author pulling her strings.
* EsotericHappyEnding: See BrokenAesop.
* EsotericHappyEnding: See BrokenAesop.
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* InformedAttribute: Early on in ''Paradise Lost'', the Galactic Empire is stated to have undergone reformations under [[spoiler: Emperor Sisko]], making it a less cruel place than it once was. Tell that to Molly O'Brien, whom we're introduced to as she is sentenced to [[PlayingWithSyringes medical experimentation]].
* MoralEventHorizon:
** When Ben Skywalker kills [[spoiler: Jorielle Sunspring, who was pregnant at the time]].
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** When Ben Skywalker kills [[spoiler: Jorielle Sunspring, who was pregnant at the time]].
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* InformedAttribute: Early on in ''Paradise Lost'', the Galactic Empire is stated to have undergone reformations under [[spoiler: Emperor Sisko]], making it a less cruel place than it once was. Tell that to Molly O'Brien, whom we're introduced to as she is sentenced to [[PlayingWithSyringes medical experimentation]].
* MoralEventHorizon:
**MoralEventHorizon: When Ben Skywalker kills [[spoiler: Jorielle Sunspring, who was pregnant at the time]].
* MoralEventHorizon:
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* RonTheDeathEater: Janeway is similarly afflicted, albeit in the opposite direction, especially once she becomes [[spoiler: the Oracle]]. Granted, Janeway was always a [[BrokenBase controversial]] captain, but Chuck's narrative decision to follow his humorous interpretation of her as out-and-out evil and ''play it straight'' ends up erasing any nuance her character may have had. Ironically, the story appears to be aware of this and attempt to avoid having her look UnintentionallySympathetic; in ''Dawn of Forever'', characters note the one thing she wouldn't do is seek to destroy Earth, only for Janeway to push forward in trying exactly that, at which point it feels less like it is the Dark Side than the author pulling her strings.
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* StrangledByTheRedString: Luke Skywalker and Seven of Nine.
* StuffedIntoTheFridge: [[spoiler: Jorielle Sunspring]]'s death primarily serves as a catalyst for Sebastian's motivations later in the series. In fairness, [[spoiler: Jorri]] is depicted as a person with her own life and career, to the point that she gets killed in action, [[spoiler: flying a TIE in battle]], by Ben Skywalker. But the moment she tells Sebastian that she is [[spoiler: pregnant]], it's pretty clear she's toast.
* SympatheticSue: Sebastian Skywalker. The sheer amount of misery the series piles upon him at some point crosses over into being over-the-top.
* StuffedIntoTheFridge: [[spoiler: Jorielle Sunspring]]'s death primarily serves as a catalyst for Sebastian's motivations later in the series. In fairness, [[spoiler: Jorri]] is depicted as a person with her own life and career, to the point that she gets killed in action, [[spoiler: flying a TIE in battle]], by Ben Skywalker. But the moment she tells Sebastian that she is [[spoiler: pregnant]], it's pretty clear she's toast.
* SympatheticSue: Sebastian Skywalker. The sheer amount of misery the series piles upon him at some point crosses over into being over-the-top.
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* StuffedIntoTheFridge: [[spoiler: Jorielle Sunspring]]'s death primarily serves as a catalyst for Sebastian's motivations later in the series. In fairness, [[spoiler: Jorri]] is depicted as a person with her own life and career, to the point that she gets killed in action, [[spoiler: flying a TIE in battle]], by Ben Skywalker. But the moment she tells Sebastian that she is [[spoiler: pregnant]], it's pretty clear she's toast.
* SympatheticSue: Sebastian Skywalker. The sheer amount of misery the series piles upon him at some point crosses over into being over-the-top.
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* UnfortunateImplications: Between Seven of Nine and Mara Jade's {{Chickification}} in matters relating to Luke Skywalker, the ease with with Molly O'Brien is hoodwinked by Ben Skywalker, Jorielle Sunspring getting [[spoiler: StuffedIntoTheFridge]], Sebastian subsequently latching onto an idealised dream-image of his [[spoiler: unborn]] daughter Morgan, or the weird {{Crossover}} cavalcade towards the end of ''Dawn of Forever'' during which [[spoiler: [[Series/BattlestarGalactica2003 Number Six]]]] is [[HeelFaceBrainwashing reprogrammed]] and both Seven and Mara are [[spoiler: ''impregnated by [[{{Franchise/Alien}} Xenomorphs]]'']], and it's all casually ''PlayedForLaughs''... Let's just say the story has a rather questionable treatment of female characters.
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** RonTheDeathEater: Janeway is similarly afflicted, albeit in the opposite direction, especially once she becomes [[spoiler: the Oracle]]. While Janeway was always a [[BrokenBase controversial]] captain, Chuck's narrative decision to follow his humorous interpretation of her as out-and-out evil and ''play it straight'' ends up erasing any nuance her character may have had. Ironically, the story appears to be aware of this and attempt to avoid having her look UnintentionallySympathetic; in ''Dawn of Forever'', characters note the one thing she wouldn't do is seek to destroy Earth, only for Janeway to push forward in trying exactly that, at which point it feels less like it is the Dark Side than the author pulling her strings.
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** RonTheDeathEater: Janeway is similarly afflicted, albeit in the opposite direction, especially once she becomes [[spoiler: the Oracle]]. While Granted, Janeway was always a [[BrokenBase controversial]] captain, but Chuck's narrative decision to follow his humorous interpretation of her as out-and-out evil and ''play it straight'' ends up erasing any nuance her character may have had. Ironically, the story appears to be aware of this and attempt to avoid having her look UnintentionallySympathetic; in ''Dawn of Forever'', characters note the one thing she wouldn't do is seek to destroy Earth, only for Janeway to push forward in trying exactly that, at which point it feels less like it is the Dark Side than the author pulling her strings.
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* InformedAttribute: Early on in ''Paradise Lost'', the Galactic Empire is stated to have undergone reformations under [[spoiler: Emperor Sisko]] making it a less cruel place then it once was. Tell that to Molly O'Brien, whom we're introduced to as she is sentenced to [[PlayingWithSyringes medical experimentation]].
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* InformedAttribute: Early on in ''Paradise Lost'', the Galactic Empire is stated to have undergone reformations under [[spoiler: Emperor Sisko]] Sisko]], making it a less cruel place then than it once was. Tell that to Molly O'Brien, whom we're introduced to as she is sentenced to [[PlayingWithSyringes medical experimentation]].
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* UnfortunateImplications: Between Seven of Nine and Mara Jade's {{Chickification}} in matters relating to Luke Skywalker, the ease with with Molly O'Brien is hoodwinked by Ben Skywalker, Jorielle Sunspring getting [[spoiler: StuffedIntoTheFridge]], Sebasastian subsequently latching onto an idealised dream-image of his [[spoiler: unborn]] daughter Morgan, or the weird {{Crossover}} cavalcade towards the end of ''Dawn of Forever'' during which [[spoiler: [[Series/BattlestarGalactica2003 Number Six]]]] is [[HeelFaceBrainwashing reprogrammed]] and both Seven and Mara are [[spoiler: ''impregnated by [[{{Franchise/Alien}} Xenomorphs]]'']], and it's all casually ''PlayedForLaughs''... Let's just say the story has a rather questionable treatment of female characters.
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* UnfortunateImplications: Between Seven of Nine and Mara Jade's {{Chickification}} in matters relating to Luke Skywalker, the ease with with Molly O'Brien is hoodwinked by Ben Skywalker, Jorielle Sunspring getting [[spoiler: StuffedIntoTheFridge]], Sebasastian Sebastian subsequently latching onto an idealised dream-image of his [[spoiler: unborn]] daughter Morgan, or the weird {{Crossover}} cavalcade towards the end of ''Dawn of Forever'' during which [[spoiler: [[Series/BattlestarGalactica2003 Number Six]]]] is [[HeelFaceBrainwashing reprogrammed]] and both Seven and Mara are [[spoiler: ''impregnated by [[{{Franchise/Alien}} Xenomorphs]]'']], and it's all casually ''PlayedForLaughs''... Let's just say the story has a rather questionable treatment of female characters.
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* InformedAttribute: Early on in ''Paradise Lost'', the Galactic Empire is stated to have undergone reformations under [[spoiler: Emperor Sisko]] making it a less cruel place then it once was. Tell that to Molly O'Brien, whom we're introduced to as she sentenced to [[PlayingWithSyringes medical experimentation]].
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* InformedAttribute: Early on in ''Paradise Lost'', the Galactic Empire is stated to have undergone reformations under [[spoiler: Emperor Sisko]] making it a less cruel place then it once was. Tell that to Molly O'Brien, whom we're introduced to as she is sentenced to [[PlayingWithSyringes medical experimentation]].
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* InformedAtttribute: Early on in ''Paradise Lost'', the Galactic Empire is stated to have undergone reformations under [[spoiler: Emperor Sisko]] making it a less cruel place then it once was. Tell that to Molly O'Brien, whom we're introduced to as she sentenced to [[PlayingWithSyringes medical experimentation]].
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* InformedAtttribute: InformedAttribute: Early on in ''Paradise Lost'', the Galactic Empire is stated to have undergone reformations under [[spoiler: Emperor Sisko]] making it a less cruel place then it once was. Tell that to Molly O'Brien, whom we're introduced to as she sentenced to [[PlayingWithSyringes medical experimentation]].
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** RonTheDeathEater: Janeway is similarly afflicted, albeit in the opposite direction, especially once she becomes [[spoiler: the Oracle]]. While Janeway was always a [[BrokenBase controversial]] captain, the narrative decision to follow Chuck humorous interpretation of her as out-and-out evil and ''play it straight'' ends up erasing any nuance her character may have had. Ironically, the story appears to be aware of this and attempt to avoid having her look UnintentionallySympathetic; in ''Dawn of Forever'', characters note the one thing she wouldn't do is seek to destroy Earth, only for Janeway to push forward in trying exactly that, at which point it feels less like it is the Dark Side than the author pulling her strings.
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** RonTheDeathEater: Janeway is similarly afflicted, albeit in the opposite direction, especially once she becomes [[spoiler: the Oracle]]. While Janeway was always a [[BrokenBase controversial]] captain, the Chuck's narrative decision to follow Chuck his humorous interpretation of her as out-and-out evil and ''play it straight'' ends up erasing any nuance her character may have had. Ironically, the story appears to be aware of this and attempt to avoid having her look UnintentionallySympathetic; in ''Dawn of Forever'', characters note the one thing she wouldn't do is seek to destroy Earth, only for Janeway to push forward in trying exactly that, at which point it feels less like it is the Dark Side than the author pulling her strings.
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* DracoInLeatherPants: Chuck's love of Benjamin Sisko is taken perhaps a tad too far in making Sisko TheChessmaster, and eventually [[spoiler: the one secretly inhabiting Palpatine's body]] after the Empire comes back to power. This gets particularly blatant when Luke, aware of the ruse, notes at one point that he "senses no evil" within the possessed [[spoiler: Emperor]]. While Sisko may not have been a ''bad'' guy per se, his whole point as a character in [=DS9=] was that of a ''Star Trek'' captain with a darker streak than previous series had depicted until then.
** RonTheDeathEater: Janeway is similarly afflicted, albeit in the opposite direction, especially once she becomes [[spoiler: the Oracle]]. While Janeway was always a [[BrokenBase controversial]] captain, the narrative decision to follow Chuck humorous interpretation of her as out-and-out evil and ''play it straight'' ends up erasing any nuance her character may have had. Ironically, the story appears to be aware of this and attempt to avoid having her look UnintentionallySympathetic; in ''Dawn of Forever'', characters note the one thing she wouldn't do is seek to destroy Earth, only for Janeway to push forward in trying exactly that, at which point it feels less like it is the Dark Side than the author pulling her strings.
** RonTheDeathEater: Janeway is similarly afflicted, albeit in the opposite direction, especially once she becomes [[spoiler: the Oracle]]. While Janeway was always a [[BrokenBase controversial]] captain, the narrative decision to follow Chuck humorous interpretation of her as out-and-out evil and ''play it straight'' ends up erasing any nuance her character may have had. Ironically, the story appears to be aware of this and attempt to avoid having her look UnintentionallySympathetic; in ''Dawn of Forever'', characters note the one thing she wouldn't do is seek to destroy Earth, only for Janeway to push forward in trying exactly that, at which point it feels less like it is the Dark Side than the author pulling her strings.
* InformedAtttribute: Early on in ''Paradise Lost'', the Galactic Empire is stated to have undergone reformations under [[spoiler: Emperor Sisko]] making it a less cruel place then it once was. Tell that to Molly O'Brien, whom we're introduced to as she sentenced to [[PlayingWithSyringes medical experimentation]].
* UnfortunateImplications: Between Seven of Nine and Mara Jade's {{Chickification}} in matters relating to Luke Skywalker, the ease with with Molly O'Brien is hoodwinked by Ben Skywalker, Jorielle Sunspring getting [[spoiler: StuffedIntoTheFridge]], Sebasastian subsequently latching onto an idealised dream-image of his [[spoiler: unborn]] daughter Morgan, or the weird {{Crossover}} cavalcade towards the end of ''Dawn of Forever'' during which [[spoiler: [[Series/BattlestarGalactica2003 Number Six]]]] is [[HeelFaceBrainwashing reprogrammed]] and both Seven and Mara are [[spoiler: ''impregnated by [[{{Franchise/Alien}} Xenomorphs]]'']], and it's all casually ''PlayedForLaughs''... Let's just say the story has a rather questionable treatment of female characters.
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* HilariousInHindsight: The Unity Saga features several elements similar to the direction ''Star Wars'' would take after being bought by Disney, including a Sith Lord named Ben, who [[spoiler: develops a bit of a MemeticLoser status and eventually undergoes RedemptionEqualsDeath, or the resurgence of the Galactic Empire.
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* HilariousInHindsight: The Unity Saga features several elements similar to the direction ''Star Wars'' would take after being bought by Disney, including a Sith Lord named Ben, who [[spoiler: develops a bit of a MemeticLoser status and eventually undergoes RedemptionEqualsDeath, RedemptionEqualsDeath]], or the resurgence of the Galactic Empire.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Kira Nerys is rather conspicuously absent over the course of the series, mentioned in a throwaway line to have [[BusCrash died]] at some point between the two trilogies in a guerilla operation together with Miles O'Brien. Given that Kira is canonically a former freedom fighter, this feels like a pretty convenient way for the story to avoid addressing the implications of [[spoiler: Ben Sisko, her old friend and former commander]], leading the Galactic Empire in secret.
** Similarly, Odo's fate is never mentioned, despite the story dangling a pretty big RedHerring in the character of a Changeling intelligence officer.
** Similarly, Odo's fate is never mentioned, despite the story dangling a pretty big RedHerring in the character of a Changeling intelligence officer.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Kira Nerys is rather conspicuously absent over the course of the series, only mentioned in by a throwaway line to have [[BusCrash died]] at some point between the two trilogies in a guerilla operation together with Miles O'Brien. Given that Kira is canonically a former freedom fighter, this feels like a pretty convenient way for the story to avoid addressing the implications of [[spoiler: Ben Sisko, her old friend and former commander]], leading the Galactic Empire in secret.
** Similarly, Odo's fate is nevermentioned, elaborated upon, despite the story dangling a pretty big RedHerring in the character of a Changeling intelligence officer.
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* SugarWiki/FunnyMoments: Blood of Heroes Part XXXI
-->[[spoiler:"I'm Romal," the Devaronian said. "I speak for the Borg."]]\\
[[spoiler:Admiral Yunar looked him over. "You don't look like a Borg," he remarked.]]\\
[[spoiler:"No, admiral, I'm their attorney."]]
* SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome: Too many to be counted. One of the best is the duel on Byss, at the end of ''Against All Odds'', between [[spoiler:Emperor Palpatine and Ben Sisko]].
** Even if it marks the start of Luke's fall to the Dark Side, using the Force to smash a bunch of Borg Cubes into each other is extremely Badass.
-->[[spoiler:"I'm Romal," the Devaronian said. "I speak for the Borg."]]\\
[[spoiler:Admiral Yunar looked him over. "You don't look like a Borg," he remarked.]]\\
[[spoiler:"No, admiral, I'm their attorney."]]
* SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome: Too many to be counted. One of the best is the duel on Byss, at the end of ''Against All Odds'', between [[spoiler:Emperor Palpatine and Ben Sisko]].
** Even if it marks the start of Luke's fall to the Dark Side, using the Force to smash a bunch of Borg Cubes into each other is extremely Badass.
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* SugarWiki/FunnyMoments: Blood of Heroes Part XXXI
-->[[spoiler:"I'm Romal," the Devaronian said. "I speak for the Borg."]]\\
[[spoiler:Admiral Yunar looked him over. "You don't look likeAngstWhatAngst: In a Borg," he remarked.]]\\
[[spoiler:"No, admiral, I'm their attorney."]]
* SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome: Too many to be counted. One of the bestseries that is the duel on Byss, otherwise hardly stingy about angst, Luke and Seven are oddly chipper at the end of ''Against All Odds'', between [[spoiler:Emperor Palpatine considering the Galactic Empire has risen again, conquered both galaxies, many of their friends and Ben Sisko]].
** Even if it markswhole worlds died in the start of Luke's crossfire, and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking Luke is back to living on Tatooine]] with his new family.
* AssPull:
** According to ''Against All Odds'', Luke didn't really fall to the Dark Side,using as his real personality was safely locked away within his mind, while his body was an EmptyShell that did the Force deeds.
** Halfway through ''Dawn of Forever'', the Oracle reveals that she has a disused-but-functional [[spoiler: Death Star]] at her disposal. Where did she get it from? It was a discarded prototype. While it's possible this is meant tosmash a bunch be the [[spoiler: Death Star III]] from the old ''Star Tours'' ride, insufficient information is provided to be sure.
* HarsherInHindsight: Towards the end ofBorg Cubes into each other the review of "[[Recap/StarTrekVoyagerS3E21RealLife Real Life]]", Chuck delivers a deeply personal and affecting speech in rebuttal to the episode's perceived {{Aesop}} that MiseryBuildsCharacter, about how even the fear of losing a child is extremely Badass.a trauma no-one should experience. Thinking back to that review can be rather uncomfortable, when considering Sebastian's whole arc revolves around MiseryBuildsCharacter, including the loss of a child.
* HilariousInHindsight: The Unity Saga features several elements similar to the direction ''Star Wars'' would take after being bought by Disney, including a Sith Lord named Ben, who [[spoiler: develops a bit of a MemeticLoser status and eventually undergoes RedemptionEqualsDeath, or the resurgence of the Galactic Empire.
-->[[spoiler:"I'm Romal," the Devaronian said. "I speak for the Borg."]]\\
[[spoiler:Admiral Yunar looked him over. "You don't look like
[[spoiler:"No, admiral, I'm their attorney."]]
* SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome: Too many to be counted. One of the best
** Even if it marks
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** According to ''Against All Odds'', Luke didn't really fall to the Dark Side,
** Halfway through ''Dawn of Forever'', the Oracle reveals that she has a disused-but-functional [[spoiler: Death Star]] at her disposal. Where did she get it from? It was a discarded prototype. While it's possible this is meant to
* HarsherInHindsight: Towards the end of
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** When Ben Skywalker kills [[spoiler: Jorri]].
** [[spoiler: Luke killing Chewbacca]] is probably the moment most readers realize just how bad this FaceHeelTurn really is.
* NightmareFuel: [[spoiler: Captain Lennox's]] assimilation in Part VII of ''Worlds Without End''.
* RootingForTheEmpire: A literal example, during parts of the series.
* TakeThatScrappy: When the Death Star Mk II is complete, their first test is blowing up the moon of Endor and the Ewoks.
** [[spoiler: Luke killing Chewbacca]] is probably the moment most readers realize just how bad this FaceHeelTurn really is.
* NightmareFuel: [[spoiler: Captain Lennox's]] assimilation in Part VII of ''Worlds Without End''.
* RootingForTheEmpire: A literal example, during parts of the series.
* TakeThatScrappy: When the Death Star Mk II is complete, their first test is blowing up the moon of Endor and the Ewoks.
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** When Ben Skywalker kills [[spoiler: Jorri]].
** [[spoiler: Luke killing Chewbacca]] is probablyJorielle Sunspring, who was pregnant at the moment most readers realize just how bad this FaceHeelTurn really is.
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** ''Franchise/StarWars'' and ''Franchise/StarTrek'' are both famous for their Narm-y dialogue, but the way the characters talk here frequently crosses over into a Joss Whedon-esque mixture of''Worlds Without End''.
ironic self-awareness with a chance of angst, and the result can be immersion-breaking.
** Molly O'Brien doesn't take on a new name when she joins the Sith. Imagine facing a [[TomTheDarkLord Dark Lord called Molly]].
* RootingForTheEmpire: A literal example, during certain parts of the series.
* StrangledByTheRedString: Luke Skywalker and Seven of Nine.
* StuffedIntoTheFridge: [[spoiler: Jorielle Sunspring]]'s death primarily serves as a catalyst for Sebastian's motivations later in the series. In fairness, [[spoiler: Jorri]] is depicted as a person with her own life and career, to the point that she gets killed in action, [[spoiler: flying a TIE in battle]], by Ben Skywalker. But the moment she tells Sebastian that she is [[spoiler: pregnant]], it's pretty clear she's toast.
* SympatheticSue: Sebastian Skywalker. The sheer amount of misery the series piles upon him at some point crosses over into being over-the-top.
* TakeThatScrappy: When the Death StarMk II is complete, their first test is blowing up the moon Moon of Endor and the Ewoks.
** [[spoiler: Luke killing Chewbacca]] is probably
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** ''Franchise/StarWars'' and ''Franchise/StarTrek'' are both famous for their Narm-y dialogue, but the way the characters talk here frequently crosses over into a Joss Whedon-esque mixture of
** Molly O'Brien doesn't take on a new name when she joins the Sith. Imagine facing a [[TomTheDarkLord Dark Lord called Molly]].
* RootingForTheEmpire: A literal example, during certain parts of the series.
* StrangledByTheRedString: Luke Skywalker and Seven of Nine.
* StuffedIntoTheFridge: [[spoiler: Jorielle Sunspring]]'s death primarily serves as a catalyst for Sebastian's motivations later in the series. In fairness, [[spoiler: Jorri]] is depicted as a person with her own life and career, to the point that she gets killed in action, [[spoiler: flying a TIE in battle]], by Ben Skywalker. But the moment she tells Sebastian that she is [[spoiler: pregnant]], it's pretty clear she's toast.
* SympatheticSue: Sebastian Skywalker. The sheer amount of misery the series piles upon him at some point crosses over into being over-the-top.
* TakeThatScrappy: When the Death Star
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Kira Nerys is rather conspicuously absent over the course of the series, mentioned in a throwaway line to have [[BusCrash died]] at some point between the two trilogies in a guerilla operation together with Miles O'Brien. Given that Kira is canonically a former freedom fighter, this feels like a pretty convenient way for the story to avoid addressing the implications of [[spoiler: Ben Sisko, her old friend and former commander]], leading the Galactic Empire in secret.
** Similarly, Odo's fate is never mentioned, despite the story dangling a pretty big RedHerring in the character of a Changeling intelligence officer.
** Similarly, Odo's fate is never mentioned, despite the story dangling a pretty big RedHerring in the character of a Changeling intelligence officer.
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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: Too many to be counted. One of the best is the duel on Byss, at the end of ''Against All Odds'', between [[spoiler:Emperor Palpatine and Ben Sisko]].
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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: SugarWiki/FunnyMoments: Blood of Heroes Part XXXI
-->[[spoiler:"I'm Romal," the Devaronian said. "I speak for the Borg."]]\\
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[[spoiler:"No, admiral, I'm their attorney."]]
* SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome: Too many to be counted. One of the best is the duel on Byss, at the end of ''Against All Odds'', between [[spoiler:Emperor Palpatine and Ben Sisko]].
-->[[spoiler:"I'm Romal," the Devaronian said. "I speak for the Borg."]]\\
[[spoiler:Admiral Yunar looked him over. "You don't look like a Borg," he remarked.]]\\
[[spoiler:"No, admiral, I'm their attorney."]]
* SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome: Too many to be counted. One of the best is the duel on Byss, at the end of ''Against All Odds'', between [[spoiler:Emperor Palpatine and Ben Sisko]].
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-->[[spoiler:"No, admiral, I'm their attorney."]]
-->[[spoiler:"I'm Romal," the Devaronian said. "I speak for the Borg."]]
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* MoralEventHorizon: When Ben Skywalker kills [[spoiler: Jorri]].
** [[spoiler: Luke killing Chewbacca]] is probably the moment most readers realize just how bad this {{Face Heel Turn}} really is.
** [[spoiler: Luke killing Chewbacca]] is probably the moment most readers realize just how bad this {{Face Heel Turn}} really is.
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** [[spoiler: Luke killing Chewbacca]] is probably the moment most readers realize just how bad this{{Face Heel Turn}} FaceHeelTurn really is.
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* CharacterDerailment: Okay, it's normal for Kira, Bashir and Nog to be angry over the Cardassians blowing up [[spoiler: Deep Space 9, especially with Quark, Ezri and Rom still inside,]] but to actually ''rejoice'' over the [[spoiler: destruction of their planet and the death of 2.3 billion people]] is not. No Nog, it's not poetic justice, it's genocide, no matter how you look at it.
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* CharacterDerailment: Okay, it's normal for Kira, Bashir and Nog to be angry over the Cardassians blowing up [[spoiler: DS9]] Deep Space 9, especially with Quark, Ezri and Rom still inside,]] but to actually ''rejoice'' over the [[spoiler: destruction of their planet and the death of 2.3 billion people]] is not. No Nog, it's not poetic justice, it's genocide, no matter how you look at it.
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** Even if it marks the start of Luke's fall to the Dark Side, using the Force to smash a bunch of Borg Cubes into each other is extremely Badass.
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* HighOctaneNightmareFuel: [[spoiler: Captain Lennox's]] assimilation in Part VII of ''Worlds Without End''.
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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: Too many to be counted. One of the best is the duel on Byss, at the end of ''Against All Odds'', between [[spoiler:Emperor Palpatine and Ben Sisko]].
* CrowningMomentOfFunny: Blood of Heroes Part XXXI
-->[[spoiler:"I'm Romal," the Devaronian said. "I speak for the Borg."]]
-->[[spoiler:Admiral Yunar looked him over. "You don't look like a Borg," he remarked.]]
-->[[spoiler:"No, admiral, I'm their attorney."]]
* HighOctaneNightmareFuel: [[spoiler: Captain Lennox's]] assimilation in Part VII of ''Worlds Without End''.
* MoralEventHorizon: When Ben Skywalker kills [[spoiler: Jorri]].
** [[spoiler: Luke killing Chewbacca]] is probably the moment most readers realize just how bad this {{Face Heel Turn}} really is.
* RootingForTheEmpire: A literal example, during parts of the series.
* TheWoobie: "They're going to take it all away from you, [[spoiler:Sebastian]]." And boy, do they ever.
* CrowningMomentOfFunny: Blood of Heroes Part XXXI
-->[[spoiler:"I'm Romal," the Devaronian said. "I speak for the Borg."]]
-->[[spoiler:Admiral Yunar looked him over. "You don't look like a Borg," he remarked.]]
-->[[spoiler:"No, admiral, I'm their attorney."]]
* HighOctaneNightmareFuel: [[spoiler: Captain Lennox's]] assimilation in Part VII of ''Worlds Without End''.
* MoralEventHorizon: When Ben Skywalker kills [[spoiler: Jorri]].
** [[spoiler: Luke killing Chewbacca]] is probably the moment most readers realize just how bad this {{Face Heel Turn}} really is.
* RootingForTheEmpire: A literal example, during parts of the series.
* TheWoobie: "They're going to take it all away from you, [[spoiler:Sebastian]]." And boy, do they ever.
