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* NightmareFuel: Well, considering this book is about [[WorldWarIII that dreaded late 20th century scenario where all hell breaks loose]], there's unsurprisingly plenty of litres full; yes, we're looking at you [[NukeEm Chapter 25...]]
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* NightmareFuel: Well, considering this book A lot of the combat is about [[WorldWarIII that dreaded late 20th century scenario where all hell breaks loose]], there's unsurprisingly plenty of litres full; yes, we're looking at you [[NukeEm described in pretty graphic detail, and that's before the nukes start flying in Chapter 25...]]25.
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* ArtisticLicenseMilitary: While it's probably not wise to debate militaria with a retired general who led troops at Arnhem, common wisdom was that any nuclear strike (such as the attack on Birmingham and the retaliatory strike on Minsk) would result in an overwhelming AlphaStrike response intent on completely crushing the aggressor rather than tit-for-tat strikes, and that it would be seen as suicidal and insane for either the US or USSR to target only one city in a nuclear strike by the late '70s-'80s. In RealLife, that was the key fact that caused Colonel Stanislav Petrov, the duty officer at the Oko nuclear early-warning system, to not report that five inbound warheads appeared to be inbound to Moscow in 1983. Knowing that the United States was not stupid enough to launch such a paltry first strike given the USSR's doctrine of overwhelming response, he deduced an error in the system. He was right.
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** Iran is still ruled by the Pahlavi monarchy, implying that the Iranian Revolution either never happened or failed.
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** The Soviets [[VillainBall stop people]] ''[[VillainBall leaving]]'' [[VillainBall Minsk]]. The British stop rescuers from entering the centre of the city- it can be inferred, though, that since there's unlikely to be any more survivors there, there was no point in rescue workers risking their lives when others needed help.
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** The Soviets [[VillainBall stop people]] ''[[VillainBall leaving]]'' [[VillainBall Minsk]]. The British stop rescuers from entering the centre of the city- it can be inferred, though, that since there's unlikely to be any more survivors there, there was no point in rescue workers risking their lives when others needed help.help.
* NightmareFuel: Well, considering this book is about [[WorldWarIII that dreaded late 20th century scenario where all hell breaks loose]], there's unsurprisingly plenty of litres full; yes, we're looking at you [[NukeEm Chapter 25...]]
* NightmareFuel: Well, considering this book is about [[WorldWarIII that dreaded late 20th century scenario where all hell breaks loose]], there's unsurprisingly plenty of litres full; yes, we're looking at you [[NukeEm Chapter 25...]]
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* HarsherInHindsight: The author at one point dismisses those arguing for defense spending cuts as "useful fools" unknowingly doing the bidding of the Soviet Union. Come over a decade later, after the fall of the Soviet Union, and declassified and leaked documents would come to show that Soviet intelligence services [[VindicatedByHistory actually were]] secretly funding many left-wing peace activists and anti-nuclear organizations in the West, exploiting those people's sincere desire for peace, economic development, or diplomatic solutions in order to weaken their enemies' militaries.
** This is especially harsher in light of recent allegations in America of Russian interference in American political systems.
** This is especially harsher in light of recent allegations in America of Russian interference in American political systems.
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* MoralEventHorizon and ShootTheDog: The Soviets, getting thrown back in WestGermany, decide to try and scare UsefulNotes/{{NATO}} to the negotiating table by nuking Birmingham, close enough to a summit in London for the attack to be seen from there, stating that further strikes will follow unless they agree to talks. The UsefulNotes/{{NATO}} leaders decide the only way they're going to avoid a complete collapse of public morale is to nuke Minsk back.
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* MoralEventHorizon and ShootTheDog: The Soviets, getting thrown back in WestGermany, UsefulNotes/WestGermany, decide to try and scare UsefulNotes/{{NATO}} to the negotiating table by nuking Birmingham, close enough to a summit in London for the attack to be seen from there, stating that further strikes will follow unless they agree to talks. The UsefulNotes/{{NATO}} leaders decide the only way they're going to avoid a complete collapse of public morale is to nuke Minsk back.
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* ArtisticLicenseMilitaryTactics: While it's probably not wise to debate militaria with a retired general who led troops at Arnhem, common wisdom was that any nuclear strike (such as the attack on Birmingham and the retaliatory strike on Minsk) would result in an overwhelming AlphaStrike response intent on completely crushing the aggressor rather than tit-for-tat strikes, and that it would be seen as suicidal and insane for either the US or USSR to target only one city in a nuclear strike by the late '70s-'80s. In RealLife, that was the key fact that caused Colonel Stanislav Petrov, the duty officer at the Oko nuclear early-warning system, to not report that five inbound warheads appeared to be inbound to Moscow in 1983. Knowing that the United States was not stupid enough to launch such a paltry first strike given the USSR's doctrine of overwhelming response, he deduced an error in the system. He was right.
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* ArtisticLicenseMilitaryTactics: ArtisticLicenseMilitary: While it's probably not wise to debate militaria with a retired general who led troops at Arnhem, common wisdom was that any nuclear strike (such as the attack on Birmingham and the retaliatory strike on Minsk) would result in an overwhelming AlphaStrike response intent on completely crushing the aggressor rather than tit-for-tat strikes, and that it would be seen as suicidal and insane for either the US or USSR to target only one city in a nuclear strike by the late '70s-'80s. In RealLife, that was the key fact that caused Colonel Stanislav Petrov, the duty officer at the Oko nuclear early-warning system, to not report that five inbound warheads appeared to be inbound to Moscow in 1983. Knowing that the United States was not stupid enough to launch such a paltry first strike given the USSR's doctrine of overwhelming response, he deduced an error in the system. He was right.
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** The Soviets [[VillainBall stop people]] [[VillainBall ''leaving'']] [[VillainBall Minsk]]. The British stop rescuers from entering the centre of the city- it can be inferred, though, that since there's unlikely to be any more survivors there, there was no point in rescue workers risking their lives when others needed help.
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** The Soviets [[VillainBall stop people]] [[VillainBall ''leaving'']] ''[[VillainBall leaving]]'' [[VillainBall Minsk]]. The British stop rescuers from entering the centre of the city- it can be inferred, though, that since there's unlikely to be any more survivors there, there was no point in rescue workers risking their lives when others needed help.
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* ArtisticLicenseMilitaryTactics -- While it's probably not wise to debate militaria with a retired general who led troops at Arnhem, common wisdom was that any nuclear strike (such as the attack on Birmingham and the retaliatory strike on Minsk) would result in an overwhelming AlphaStrike response intent on completely crushing the aggressor rather than tit-for-tat strikes, and that it would be seen as suicidal and insane for either the US or USSR to target only one city in a nuclear strike by the late '70s-'80s. In RealLife, that was the key fact that caused Colonel Stanislav Petrov, the duty officer at the Oko nuclear early-warning system, to not report that five inbound warheads appeared to be inbound to Moscow in 1983. Knowing that the United States was not stupid enough to launch such a paltry first strike given the USSR's doctrine of overwhelming response, he deduced an error in the system. He was right.
* MoralEventHorizon and ShootTheDog (the Soviets, getting thrown back in WestGermany, decide to try and scare UsefulNotes/{{NATO}} to the negotiating table by nuking Birmingham, close enough to a summit in London for the attack to be seen from there, stating that further strikes will follow unless they agree to talks. The UsefulNotes/{{NATO}} leaders decide the only way they're going to avoid a complete collapse of public morale is to nuke Minsk back).
** The Soviets [[VillainBall stop people]] [[VillainBall ''leaving'']] [[VillainBall Minsk]]. The British stop rescuers from entering the centre of the city- it can be inferred, though, that since there's unlikely to be any more survivors there, there was no point in rescue workers risking their lives when others needed help.
* ReverseFunnyAneurysm- a couple actually:
* MoralEventHorizon and ShootTheDog (the Soviets, getting thrown back in WestGermany, decide to try and scare UsefulNotes/{{NATO}} to the negotiating table by nuking Birmingham, close enough to a summit in London for the attack to be seen from there, stating that further strikes will follow unless they agree to talks. The UsefulNotes/{{NATO}} leaders decide the only way they're going to avoid a complete collapse of public morale is to nuke Minsk back).
** The Soviets [[VillainBall stop people]] [[VillainBall ''leaving'']] [[VillainBall Minsk]]. The British stop rescuers from entering the centre of the city- it can be inferred, though, that since there's unlikely to be any more survivors there, there was no point in rescue workers risking their lives when others needed help.
* ReverseFunnyAneurysm- a couple actually:
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* ArtisticLicenseMilitaryTactics -- ArtisticLicenseMilitaryTactics: While it's probably not wise to debate militaria with a retired general who led troops at Arnhem, common wisdom was that any nuclear strike (such as the attack on Birmingham and the retaliatory strike on Minsk) would result in an overwhelming AlphaStrike response intent on completely crushing the aggressor rather than tit-for-tat strikes, and that it would be seen as suicidal and insane for either the US or USSR to target only one city in a nuclear strike by the late '70s-'80s. In RealLife, that was the key fact that caused Colonel Stanislav Petrov, the duty officer at the Oko nuclear early-warning system, to not report that five inbound warheads appeared to be inbound to Moscow in 1983. Knowing that the United States was not stupid enough to launch such a paltry first strike given the USSR's doctrine of overwhelming response, he deduced an error in the system. He was right.
*MoralEventHorizon and ShootTheDog (the Soviets, getting thrown back in WestGermany, decide to try and scare UsefulNotes/{{NATO}} to the negotiating table by nuking Birmingham, close enough to a summit in London for the attack to be seen from there, stating that further strikes will follow unless they agree to talks. The UsefulNotes/{{NATO}} leaders decide the only way they're going to avoid a complete collapse of public morale is to nuke Minsk back).
** The Soviets [[VillainBall stop people]] [[VillainBall ''leaving'']] [[VillainBall Minsk]]. The British stop rescuers from entering the centre of the city- it can be inferred, though, that since there's unlikely to be any more survivors there, there was no point in rescue workers risking their lives when others needed help.
* ReverseFunnyAneurysm- a couple actually:HilariousInHindsight:
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** The Soviets [[VillainBall stop people]] [[VillainBall ''leaving'']] [[VillainBall Minsk]]. The British stop rescuers from entering the centre of the city- it can be inferred, though, that since there's unlikely to be any more survivors there, there was no point in rescue workers risking their lives when others needed help.
* ReverseFunnyAneurysm- a couple actually:
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** It's stated in the first book that Creator/Channel4 is not created because of the increase in defence spending. By the second book, it was being created. [[DontExplainTheJoke Considering what's on C4 at the moment, this line gets funnier all the time]].
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** It's stated in the first book that Creator/Channel4 is not created because of the increase in defence spending. By the second book, it was being created. [[DontExplainTheJoke Considering what's on C4 at the moment, this line gets funnier all the time]].time.]]
* MoralEventHorizon and ShootTheDog: The Soviets, getting thrown back in WestGermany, decide to try and scare UsefulNotes/{{NATO}} to the negotiating table by nuking Birmingham, close enough to a summit in London for the attack to be seen from there, stating that further strikes will follow unless they agree to talks. The UsefulNotes/{{NATO}} leaders decide the only way they're going to avoid a complete collapse of public morale is to nuke Minsk back.
** The Soviets [[VillainBall stop people]] [[VillainBall ''leaving'']] [[VillainBall Minsk]]. The British stop rescuers from entering the centre of the city- it can be inferred, though, that since there's unlikely to be any more survivors there, there was no point in rescue workers risking their lives when others needed help.
* MoralEventHorizon and ShootTheDog: The Soviets, getting thrown back in WestGermany, decide to try and scare UsefulNotes/{{NATO}} to the negotiating table by nuking Birmingham, close enough to a summit in London for the attack to be seen from there, stating that further strikes will follow unless they agree to talks. The UsefulNotes/{{NATO}} leaders decide the only way they're going to avoid a complete collapse of public morale is to nuke Minsk back.
** The Soviets [[VillainBall stop people]] [[VillainBall ''leaving'']] [[VillainBall Minsk]]. The British stop rescuers from entering the centre of the city- it can be inferred, though, that since there's unlikely to be any more survivors there, there was no point in rescue workers risking their lives when others needed help.
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* ArtisticLicenseMilitaryTactics -- While it's probably not wise to debate militaria with a retired general who led troops at Arnhem, common wisdom was that any nuclear strike (such as the attack on Birmingham and the retaliatory strike on Minsk) would result in an overwhelming AlphaStrike response intent on completely crushing the aggressor rather than tit-for-tat strikes, and that it would be seen as suicidal and insane for either the US or USSR to target only one city in a nuclear strike by the late '70s-'80s. In RealLife, that was the key fact that caused Stanislav Petrov to not report that five inbound warheads appeared to be inbound to Moscow in 1983. Knowing that the United States was not stupid enough to launch such a paltry first strike given the USSR's doctrine of overwhelming response, he deduced an error in the system. He was right.
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* ArtisticLicenseMilitaryTactics -- While it's probably not wise to debate militaria with a retired general who led troops at Arnhem, common wisdom was that any nuclear strike (such as the attack on Birmingham and the retaliatory strike on Minsk) would result in an overwhelming AlphaStrike response intent on completely crushing the aggressor rather than tit-for-tat strikes, and that it would be seen as suicidal and insane for either the US or USSR to target only one city in a nuclear strike by the late '70s-'80s. In RealLife, that was the key fact that caused Colonel Stanislav Petrov Petrov, the duty officer at the Oko nuclear early-warning system, to not report that five inbound warheads appeared to be inbound to Moscow in 1983. Knowing that the United States was not stupid enough to launch such a paltry first strike given the USSR's doctrine of overwhelming response, he deduced an error in the system. He was right.
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** It's stated in the first book that ChannelFour is not created because of the increase in defence spending. By the second book, it was being created. [[DontExplainTheJoke Considering what's on C4 at the moment, this line gets funnier all the time]].
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** It's stated in the first book that ChannelFour Creator/Channel4 is not created because of the increase in defence spending. By the second book, it was being created. [[DontExplainTheJoke Considering what's on C4 at the moment, this line gets funnier all the time]].
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** In the first book, Jimmy Carter serves two full terms. The second implies RonaldReagan stood down after one term.
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** In the first book, Jimmy Carter serves two full terms. The second implies RonaldReagan UsefulNotes/RonaldReagan stood down after one term.
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* MoralEventHorizon and ShootTheDog (the Soviets, getting thrown back in WestGermany, decide to try and scare {{NATO}} UsefulNotes/{{NATO}} to the negotiating table by nuking Birmingham, close enough to a summit in London for the attack to be seen from there, stating that further strikes will follow unless they agree to talks. The {{NATO}} UsefulNotes/{{NATO}} leaders decide the only way they're going to avoid a complete collapse of public morale is to nuke Minsk back).
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* ArtisticLicenseMilitaryTactics -- While it's probably not wise to debate militaria with a retired general who led troops at Arnhem, common wisdom was that any nuclear strike (such as the attack on Birmingham and the retaliatory strike on Minsk) would result in an overwhelming AlphaStrike response intent on completely crushing the aggressor rather than tit-for-tat strikes, and that it would be seen as suicidal and insane for either the US or USSR to target only one city in a nuclear strike by the late '70s-'80s. In RealLife, that was the key fact that caused Stanislav Petrov to not report that five inbound warheads appeared to be inbound to Moscow in 1983. Knowing that the United States was not stupid enough to launch such a paltry first strike given the USSR's doctrine of overwhelming response, he deduced an error in the system. He was right.
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* ArtisticLicenseMilitaryTactics -- While it's probably not wise to debate militaria with a retired general who led troops at Arnhem, common wisdom was that any nuclear strike (such as the attack on Birmingham and the retaliatory strike on Minsk) would result in an overwhelming AlphaStrike response intent on completely crushing the aggressor rather than tit-for-tat strikes, and that it would be seen as suicidal and insane for either the US or USSR to target only one city in a nuclear strike by the late '70s-'80s. In RealLife, that was the key fact that caused Stanislav Petrov to not report that five inbound warheads appeared to be inbound to Moscow in 1983. Knowing that the United States was not stupid enough to launch such a paltry first strike given the USSR's doctrine of overwhelming response, he deduced an error in the system. He was right.right.
* MoralEventHorizon and ShootTheDog (the Soviets, getting thrown back in WestGermany, decide to try and scare {{NATO}} to the negotiating table by nuking Birmingham, close enough to a summit in London for the attack to be seen from there, stating that further strikes will follow unless they agree to talks. The {{NATO}} leaders decide the only way they're going to avoid a complete collapse of public morale is to nuke Minsk back).
** The Soviets [[VillainBall stop people]] [[VillainBall ''leaving'']] [[VillainBall Minsk]]. The British stop rescuers from entering the centre of the city- it can be inferred, though, that since there's unlikely to be any more survivors there, there was no point in rescue workers risking their lives when others needed help.
* ReverseFunnyAneurysm- a couple actually:
** In the first book, Jimmy Carter serves two full terms. The second implies RonaldReagan stood down after one term.
** It's stated in the first book that ChannelFour is not created because of the increase in defence spending. By the second book, it was being created. [[DontExplainTheJoke Considering what's on C4 at the moment, this line gets funnier all the time]].
* MoralEventHorizon and ShootTheDog (the Soviets, getting thrown back in WestGermany, decide to try and scare {{NATO}} to the negotiating table by nuking Birmingham, close enough to a summit in London for the attack to be seen from there, stating that further strikes will follow unless they agree to talks. The {{NATO}} leaders decide the only way they're going to avoid a complete collapse of public morale is to nuke Minsk back).
** The Soviets [[VillainBall stop people]] [[VillainBall ''leaving'']] [[VillainBall Minsk]]. The British stop rescuers from entering the centre of the city- it can be inferred, though, that since there's unlikely to be any more survivors there, there was no point in rescue workers risking their lives when others needed help.
* ReverseFunnyAneurysm- a couple actually:
** In the first book, Jimmy Carter serves two full terms. The second implies RonaldReagan stood down after one term.
** It's stated in the first book that ChannelFour is not created because of the increase in defence spending. By the second book, it was being created. [[DontExplainTheJoke Considering what's on C4 at the moment, this line gets funnier all the time]].
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* ArtisticLicenseMilitaryTactics -- While it's probably not wise to debate militaria with a retired general who led troops at Arnhem, common wisdom was that any nuclear strike (such as the attack on Birmingham and the retaliatory strike on Minsk) would result in an overwhelming AlphaStrike response intent on completely crushing the aggressor rather than tit-for-tat strikes, and that it would be seen as suicidal and insane for either the US or USSR to target only one city in a nuclear strike by the late '70s-'80s. In RealLife, that was the key fact that caused Stanislav Petrov to not report that five inbound warheads appeared to be inbound to Moscow in 1983. Knowing that the United States was not stupid enough to launch such a paltry first strike given the USSR's doctrine of overwhelming response, he deduced an error in the system. He was right.
