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** In that same chapter, one character remembers her mother telling her that when she gets married, that gives a man the right to rape her whenever he wants. This is not true in modern times, as marital rape has been a crime since the 1970s.
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** In that same chapter, one character remembers her mother telling her that when she gets married, that gives a man her husband the right to rape her whenever he wants. This is not true in modern times, as marital rape has been a crime since the 1970s.
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** In one passage, Frannie is feeling vulnerable as a pregnant woman in a post-apocalyptic world, and is thinking about how much she wants [[WomenPreferStrongMen a man who can protect her]]. Fair enough, though several incidents demonstrate why one man alone wouldn't be enough. She then muses that the age of female independence is over, and could only have existed in the first place in the civilized world that men had built, and that all feminists should have had "Thank you, men" as a major slogan. This is not presented as the personal point-of-view of a traditionalist woman, but rather a previously independent woman realizing some hard truths about the world. Those "truths" have been proven to be anything but in the decades since, and this is now a very uncomfortable passage to read.
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** In that same chapter, one character remembers her mother telling her that when she gets married, that gives a man the right to rape her whenever he wants. This is not true in modern times, as marital rape has been a crime since the 1970s.
** In one passage, Frannie is feeling vulnerable as a pregnant woman in a post-apocalyptic world, and is thinking about how much she wants [[WomenPreferStrongMen a man who can protect her]]. Fair enough, though several incidents demonstrate why one man alone wouldn't be enough. She then muses that the age of female independence is over, and could only have existed in the first place in the civilized world that men had built, and that all feminists should have had "Thank you, men" as a major slogan. This is not presented as the personal point-of-view of a traditionalist woman, but rather a previously independent woman realizing some hard truths about the world. Those "truths" have been proven to be anything but in the decades since, and this is now a very uncomfortable passage to read.
** In one passage, Frannie is feeling vulnerable as a pregnant woman in a post-apocalyptic world, and is thinking about how much she wants [[WomenPreferStrongMen a man who can protect her]]. Fair enough, though several incidents demonstrate why one man alone wouldn't be enough. She then muses that the age of female independence is over, and could only have existed in the first place in the civilized world that men had built, and that all feminists should have had "Thank you, men" as a major slogan. This is not presented as the personal point-of-view of a traditionalist woman, but rather a previously independent woman realizing some hard truths about the world. Those "truths" have been proven to be anything but in the decades since, and this is now a very uncomfortable passage to read.
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** Many of Flagg's followers in Vegas can feel underused due to being {{Satellite Character}}s and/or only getting a couple of scenes, such as Ace High (given his status as one of the sixteen people who were already in Vegas when Flagg came, and someone who becomes disillusioned with Flagg and is planning to abandon him by the final act), shrewd and ruthless but easily flustered intelligence officer Paul Burleson, ex-cop and PunchClockVillain Barry Dorgan (who has some of the most characterization of Flagg's faction but only first appears a couple of dozen pages before Flagg's downfall), and rugged Marine veteran and helicopter pilot Carl Hough (who survives Trashcan Man's first rampage, only to die in a redundant second one).
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** Many of Flagg's followers in Vegas can feel underused due to being {{Satellite Character}}s and/or only getting a couple of scenes, such as Ace High Ronnie (given his status as one of the sixteen people who were already in Vegas when Flagg came, and someone who becomes disillusioned with Flagg and is planning to abandon him by the final act), shrewd and ruthless but easily flustered intelligence officer Paul Burleson, ex-cop and PunchClockVillain Barry Dorgan (who has some of the most characterization of Flagg's faction but only first appears a couple of dozen pages before Flagg's downfall), and rugged Marine veteran and helicopter pilot Carl Hough (who survives Trashcan Man's first rampage, only to die in a redundant second one).
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: As enormous as the cast is, and as impactful as almost every character is with the role that they do have, there can still be characters who it feels like King could have done more with.
** Susan Stern gets a great ActionGirl introduction fighting back against men who have spent weeks raping her and later becomes part of the Boulder Free Zone Council, all of which build her up as a promising secondary character. Then she gets little additional plot role or character development beyond being a dog lover. Despite her wearing a Kent State shirt, it's also never mentioned if she was involved in the massive protests against the government coverup that Kent State students threw before the military put it down with mortar fire.
** Patty Kroger is one of Susan's companions, TheBabyOfTheBunch of the rape victims who also fights back against her captors and has a crush on Harold (which could have made him at least consider getting over his toxic obsession with Frannie and Stu), but only has a handful of minor scenes after her introduction,
** Mike Childress, one of the men who beats up Nick and then is arrested by him, is never seen again after Nick releases him when, regardless of whether he died of the flu afterward (as it's never indicated that anyone who was symptomatic ever recovers), this could have set up an UngratefulBastard or AndroclesLion moment if he ever encountered Nick again.
** Gina, Olivia, and June are three people who Nick, Tom, Ralph, and MauveShirt Dr. Dick Ellis encounter and have some briefly-shown FamilyOfChoice dynamics with Nick and the others. They are also among the first people to meet Abigail and arrive in Boulder (which could have given them a certain status in the community), but they quickly fade into the background afterward and have minimal details about their backstories given.
** George [=McDougall=], who dies in the "natural selection" chapter, mentions that Patricia, one of his eleven children, almost got better from the flu before dying. Seeing two Boulder survivors from the same family (albeit one that has still undergone a lot of loss) together could have been novel and prompted a lot of dialogue and interesting interactions, even without considering how the immune survivors might have viewed with interest someone who actually beat the flu.
** Four-year-old Eva Hodges is one of Stu's neighbors and initially seems to be immune, intriguingly only showing symptoms of the flu much later than anyone else shown getting Captain Trips. Still, she's never mentioned after that point. How her body resisted the flu for so long remains ambiguous when, regardless of her ultimate fate, it felt potentially significant to many readers.
** Many of Flagg's followers in Vegas can feel underused due to being {{Satellite Character}}s and/or only getting a couple of scenes, such as Ace High (given his status as one of the sixteen people who were already in Vegas when Flagg came, and someone who becomes disillusioned with Flagg and is planning to abandon him by the final act), shrewd and ruthless but easily flustered intelligence officer Paul Burleson, ex-cop and PunchClockVillain Barry Dorgan (who has some of the most characterization of Flagg's faction but only first appears a couple of dozen pages before Flagg's downfall), and rugged Marine veteran and helicopter pilot Carl Hough (who survives Trashcan Man's first rampage, only to die in a redundant second one).
** Susan Stern gets a great ActionGirl introduction fighting back against men who have spent weeks raping her and later becomes part of the Boulder Free Zone Council, all of which build her up as a promising secondary character. Then she gets little additional plot role or character development beyond being a dog lover. Despite her wearing a Kent State shirt, it's also never mentioned if she was involved in the massive protests against the government coverup that Kent State students threw before the military put it down with mortar fire.
** Patty Kroger is one of Susan's companions, TheBabyOfTheBunch of the rape victims who also fights back against her captors and has a crush on Harold (which could have made him at least consider getting over his toxic obsession with Frannie and Stu), but only has a handful of minor scenes after her introduction,
** Mike Childress, one of the men who beats up Nick and then is arrested by him, is never seen again after Nick releases him when, regardless of whether he died of the flu afterward (as it's never indicated that anyone who was symptomatic ever recovers), this could have set up an UngratefulBastard or AndroclesLion moment if he ever encountered Nick again.
** Gina, Olivia, and June are three people who Nick, Tom, Ralph, and MauveShirt Dr. Dick Ellis encounter and have some briefly-shown FamilyOfChoice dynamics with Nick and the others. They are also among the first people to meet Abigail and arrive in Boulder (which could have given them a certain status in the community), but they quickly fade into the background afterward and have minimal details about their backstories given.
** George [=McDougall=], who dies in the "natural selection" chapter, mentions that Patricia, one of his eleven children, almost got better from the flu before dying. Seeing two Boulder survivors from the same family (albeit one that has still undergone a lot of loss) together could have been novel and prompted a lot of dialogue and interesting interactions, even without considering how the immune survivors might have viewed with interest someone who actually beat the flu.
** Four-year-old Eva Hodges is one of Stu's neighbors and initially seems to be immune, intriguingly only showing symptoms of the flu much later than anyone else shown getting Captain Trips. Still, she's never mentioned after that point. How her body resisted the flu for so long remains ambiguous when, regardless of her ultimate fate, it felt potentially significant to many readers.
** Many of Flagg's followers in Vegas can feel underused due to being {{Satellite Character}}s and/or only getting a couple of scenes, such as Ace High (given his status as one of the sixteen people who were already in Vegas when Flagg came, and someone who becomes disillusioned with Flagg and is planning to abandon him by the final act), shrewd and ruthless but easily flustered intelligence officer Paul Burleson, ex-cop and PunchClockVillain Barry Dorgan (who has some of the most characterization of Flagg's faction but only first appears a couple of dozen pages before Flagg's downfall), and rugged Marine veteran and helicopter pilot Carl Hough (who survives Trashcan Man's first rampage, only to die in a redundant second one).
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** In one passage, Frannie is feeling vulnerable as a pregnant woman in a post-apocalyptic world, and is thinking about how much she wants [[WomenPreferStrongMen a man who can protect her]]. Fair enough, though several incidents demonstrate why one man alone wouldn't be enough. She then muses that the age of female independence is over, and could only have existed in the first place in the civilized world that men had built, and that all feminists should have had "Thank you, men" as a major slogan. This is not presented as the personal point-of-view of a traditionalist woman, but rather a previously independent woman realizing some hard truths about the world. Those "truths" have been proven to be anything but in the decades since, and this is now a very uncomfortable passage to read.
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** King actually lived in Boulder for a time, so all of the street names and locations he mentions in the book actually existed. And some still do, even decades after the original novel's release. You can be driving around town, then suddenly realize, "Oh, there's the church where Harold and his crew retrieved all those bodies."
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* HollywoodHomely: The miniseries casts Corin Nemec as Harold. As a result, the whole arc about how Harold started out universally hated for being fat and ugly with a personality to match, and later begins losing weight and taking better care of himself as he becomes more accepted and valued by his peers, suffers a bit when he's actually a quite handsome guy who just has a slightly nerdy hairdo and outfit before a subtle attack of TheGlassesGottaGo.
* HoYay: The scene where Larry is leaving Stu in the desert with his broken leg in the miniseries. They come off as intimate lovers, with Stu comforting a crying Larry and holding him to his chest.
* HoYay: The scene where Larry is leaving Stu in the desert with his broken leg in the miniseries. They come off as intimate lovers, with Stu comforting a crying Larry and holding him to his chest.
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* NarmCharm: Basically the entirety of the original mini-series falls very hard into classic 90s TV acting and special effects, combined with Stephen King's penchant for already writing rather over-the-top characters, but the actors are cast so well and put so much effort into each performance that they manage to raise what could be standard narm into authentically moving and emotional characterization.
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* NarmCharm: Basically the entirety of the original mini-series falls very hard into classic 90s TV acting and special effects, combined with Stephen King's penchant for already writing rather over-the-top characters, but the actors are cast so well and put so much effort into each performance that they manage to raise what could be standard narm into authentically moving and emotional characterization.
