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* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: The episode's B-plot is a not-at-all-subtle TakeThat aimed at Creator/GeorgeLucas and the ''Franchise/StarWars'' Prequel Trilogy, reflecting the feelings many fans had at that time. By TheNewTens, [[VindicatedByHistory audiences were looking much more favorably at the PT]], in light of both the animated series ''WesternAnimation/TheCloneWars'', which expanded upon the Prequels, and the more-divisive reception to the Sequel Trilogy, which was produced without Lucas's involvement.

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* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: The episode's B-plot is a not-at-all-subtle TakeThat aimed at Creator/GeorgeLucas and the ''Franchise/StarWars'' Prequel Trilogy, reflecting the feelings many fans had at that time. By TheNewTens, [[VindicatedByHistory audiences were looking much more favorably at the PT]], in light of both the animated series ''WesternAnimation/TheCloneWars'', which expanded upon the Prequels, and the more-divisive reception to the Sequel Trilogy, which was produced without Lucas's involvement.
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* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: The episode's B-plot is a not-at-all-subtle TakeThat aimed at Creator/GeorgeLucas and the ''Franchise/StarWars'' Prequel Trilogy, reflecting the feelings many fans had at that time. By TheNewTens, [[VindicatedByHistory audiences were looking much more favorably at the Prequel Trilogy]], in light of both the animated series ''WesternAnimation/TheCloneWars'' and the similarly-mixed reception to the Sequel Trilogy, which was produced without Lucas's involvement.

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* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: The episode's B-plot is a not-at-all-subtle TakeThat aimed at Creator/GeorgeLucas and the ''Franchise/StarWars'' Prequel Trilogy, reflecting the feelings many fans had at that time. By TheNewTens, [[VindicatedByHistory audiences were looking much more favorably at the Prequel Trilogy]], PT]], in light of both the animated series ''WesternAnimation/TheCloneWars'' ''WesternAnimation/TheCloneWars'', which expanded upon the Prequels, and the similarly-mixed more-divisive reception to the Sequel Trilogy, which was produced without Lucas's involvement.
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* StrawmanHasAPoint: At the end, the clinic told [[TheAlcoholic Homer]] and [[StepfordSmiler Marge]] that they shouldn't leave, since "[Homer's] a chronic alcoholic, and [Marge's] in complete denial." He's more than right, since Homer will keep drinking in future episodes, and Marge will keep [[EasilyForgiven getting Homer back regardless of his actions]].

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* StrawmanHasAPoint: At the end, the clinic told [[TheAlcoholic Homer]] and [[StepfordSmiler Marge]] that they shouldn't leave, since "[Homer's] a chronic alcoholic, and [Marge's] in complete denial." He's more than right, since Homer will keep drinking in future episodes, and Marge will keep [[EasilyForgiven getting Homer back regardless of his actions]].actions]].
* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: The episode's B-plot is a not-at-all-subtle TakeThat aimed at Creator/GeorgeLucas and the ''Franchise/StarWars'' Prequel Trilogy, reflecting the feelings many fans had at that time. By TheNewTens, [[VindicatedByHistory audiences were looking much more favorably at the Prequel Trilogy]], in light of both the animated series ''WesternAnimation/TheCloneWars'' and the similarly-mixed reception to the Sequel Trilogy, which was produced without Lucas's involvement.

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MEH doesn't apply to shows with Negative Continuity. Merging the example with NLID, since some points from the example are still valid enough to be mentioned


* MoralEventHorizon: Homer has done some pretty questionable and immoral things in his time, both before and after this episode. However, for even the most die-hard Simpsons fans, ''this'' was where he crossed the point of no return and his reputation as "Jerkass Homer" was solidified. Even today, many fans not only cite this episode as one of, if not his ''worst'' act ever but state it is one of the many reasons Marge ''should'' divorce him.
* NeverLiveItDown: As mentioned above, despite showing remorse and apologizing, some fans were never able to see Homer the same way again after his actions in this episode.

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* MoralEventHorizon: NeverLiveItDown: Homer has done some pretty questionable and immoral things in his time, both before and after this episode. However, for even the most die-hard Simpsons fans, ''this'' framing his wife for a DUI he committed (after getting her drunk in the first place) was where he crossed the point of no return and his reputation as "Jerkass Homer" was fully solidified. Even today, many fans not only cite this episode as one of, if not his ''worst'' act ever but state it is one of the many reasons Marge ''should'' divorce him.
* NeverLiveItDown: As mentioned above, despite
Despite showing remorse and apologizing, some fans were never able to see Homer the same way again after his actions in this episode.

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* NeverLiveItDown: Despite him showing remorse and apologizing, some fans were never able to see Homer the same way again after his actions in this episode.

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* MoralEventHorizon: Homer has done some pretty questionable and immoral things in his time, both before and after this episode. However, for even the most die-hard Simpsons fans, ''this'' was where he crossed the point of no return and his reputation as "Jerkass Homer" was solidified. Even today, many fans not only cite this episode as one of, if not his ''worst'' act ever but state it is one of the many reasons Marge ''should'' divorce him.
* NeverLiveItDown: Despite him As mentioned above, despite showing remorse and apologizing, some fans were never able to see Homer the same way again after his actions in this episode.
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Redundant Parody is not a YMMV trope (even if it sounds like it could be one). Putting "YMMV, but X could be considered this" when the entry is already on the YMMV page (combined with the previous point) just sounds like a forced attempt at shoehorning a trope where it doesn't belong.


* RedundantParody: YMMV, but doing a Phantom Menace parody fourteen years after its release (and having already done similar jokes with the actual Star Wars series) could be considered this.
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* RedundantParody: YMMV, but doing a Phantom Menace parody fourteen years after its release (and having already done similar jokes with the actual Star Wars series) could be considered this.

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incorrect use of this trope as in the 2000s the hate towards the prequels was still very much alive, also who says this show is only ever allowed to reference something once? Also this is hardly the first celebrity paradox the show has had.


* StrawmanHasAPoint: At the end, the clinic told [[TheAlcoholic Homer]] and [[StepfordSmiler Marge]] that they shouldn't leave, since "[Homer's] a chronic alcoholic, and [Marge's] in complete denial." He's more than right, since Homer will keep drinking in future episodes, and Marge will keep [[EasilyForgiven getting Homer back regardless of his actions]]. In a way, it's ''very'' depressing.
* WereStillRelevantDammit: A blatant example. The family goes to see [[BlandNameProduct Cosmic Wars: Episode I]], and it's a parody of the disappointment of Episode I, complete with an obvious Jar-Jar Binks potshot in Jim-Jam Bonks. It would've been relevant in 1999 or 2000, but this episode was released in 2004. It also creates a CelebrityParadox because Franchise/StarWars has been referenced by name dozens of times. Even more insulting that they already made a quick direct reference of Episode I by name in the 1999 Treehouse of Horror episode [[note]]The first Halloween episode after the release of The Phantom Menace in the Desperately Xeeking Xena segment[[/note]] when The Collector grabs his double edged lightsaber.

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* StrawmanHasAPoint: At the end, the clinic told [[TheAlcoholic Homer]] and [[StepfordSmiler Marge]] that they shouldn't leave, since "[Homer's] a chronic alcoholic, and [Marge's] in complete denial." He's more than right, since Homer will keep drinking in future episodes, and Marge will keep [[EasilyForgiven getting Homer back regardless of his actions]]. In a way, it's ''very'' depressing.\n* WereStillRelevantDammit: A blatant example. The family goes to see [[BlandNameProduct Cosmic Wars: Episode I]], and it's a parody of the disappointment of Episode I, complete with an obvious Jar-Jar Binks potshot in Jim-Jam Bonks. It would've been relevant in 1999 or 2000, but this episode was released in 2004. It also creates a CelebrityParadox because Franchise/StarWars has been referenced by name dozens of times. Even more insulting that they already made a quick direct reference of Episode I by name in the 1999 Treehouse of Horror episode [[note]]The first Halloween episode after the release of The Phantom Menace in the Desperately Xeeking Xena segment[[/note]] when The Collector grabs his double edged lightsaber.
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The trope refers to when a character becomes irredeemably evil. Since he shows remorse, he doesn't apply


* MoralEventHorizon: Homer framing Marge for a DUI. Even ''he'' admits "This is a new low for me..."
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* StrawmanHasAPoint: At the end, the clinic told [[TheAlcoholic Homer]] and [[StepfordSmiler Marge]] that they shouldn't leave, since "[Homer's] a chronic alcoholic, and [Marge's] in complete denial." He's more than right, since Homer will keep drinking in future episodes, and Marge will keep [[EasilyForgiven getting Homer back regardless of his actions]]. In a way, it's ''very'' depressing.
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* MoralEventHorizon: Homer framing Marge for a DUI.
* NeverLiveItDown: Inspite of him showing remorse and apologizing, some fans were never able to see Homer the same way again after his actions in this episode.

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* MoralEventHorizon: Homer framing Marge for a DUI.
DUI. Even ''he'' admits "This is a new low for me..."
* NeverLiveItDown: Inspite of Despite him showing remorse and apologizing, some fans were never able to see Homer the same way again after his actions in this episode.
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* NeverLiveItDown: Some fans were never able to see Homer the same way again after his actions in this episode.

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* NeverLiveItDown: Some Inspite of him showing remorse and apologizing, some fans were never able to see Homer the same way again after his actions in this episode.
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* NeverLiveItDown: Some fans were never able to see Homer the same way again after his actions in this episode.

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* NeverLiveItDown: Some fans were never able to see Homer the same way again after his actions in this episode.episode.
* WereStillRelevantDammit: A blatant example. The family goes to see [[BlandNameProduct Cosmic Wars: Episode I]], and it's a parody of the disappointment of Episode I, complete with an obvious Jar-Jar Binks potshot in Jim-Jam Bonks. It would've been relevant in 1999 or 2000, but this episode was released in 2004. It also creates a CelebrityParadox because Franchise/StarWars has been referenced by name dozens of times. Even more insulting that they already made a quick direct reference of Episode I by name in the 1999 Treehouse of Horror episode [[note]]The first Halloween episode after the release of The Phantom Menace in the Desperately Xeeking Xena segment[[/note]] when The Collector grabs his double edged lightsaber.
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* NeverLiveItDown: Some fans were never able to see Homer the same way again after his actions in this episode.
* WereStillRelevantDammit: A blatant example. The family goes to see [[BlandNameProduct Cosmic Wars: Episode I]], and it's a parody of the disappointment of Episode I, complete with an obvious Jar-Jar Binks potshot in Jim-Jam Bonks. It would've been relevant in 1999 or 2000, but this episode was released in 2004. It also creates a CelebrityParadox because Franchise/StarWars has been referenced by name dozens of times. Even more insulting that they already made a quick direct reference of Episode I by name in the 1999 Treehouse of Horror episode [[note]]The first Halloween episode after the release of The Phantom Menace in the Desperately Xeeking Xena segment[[/note]] when The Collector grabs his double edged lightsaber.

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* NeverLiveItDown: Some fans were never able to see Homer the same way again after his actions in this episode.
* WereStillRelevantDammit: A blatant example. The family goes to see [[BlandNameProduct Cosmic Wars: Episode I]], and it's a parody of the disappointment of Episode I, complete with an obvious Jar-Jar Binks potshot in Jim-Jam Bonks. It would've been relevant in 1999 or 2000, but this episode was released in 2004. It also creates a CelebrityParadox because Franchise/StarWars has been referenced by name dozens of times. Even more insulting that they already made a quick direct reference of Episode I by name in the 1999 Treehouse of Horror episode [[note]]The first Halloween episode after the release of The Phantom Menace in the Desperately Xeeking Xena segment[[/note]] when The Collector grabs his double edged lightsaber.
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* WereStillRelevantDammit: A blatant example. The family goes to see [[BlandNameProduct Cosmic Wars: Episode I]], and it's a parody of the disappointment of Episode I, complete with an obvious Jar-Jar Binks potshot in Jim-Jam Bongs. It would've been relevant in 1999 or 2000, but this episode was released in 2004. It also creates a CelebrityParadox because Franchise/StarWars has been referenced by name dozens of times. Even more insulting that they already made a quick direct reference of Episode I by name in the 1999 Treehouse of Horror episode [[note]]The first Halloween episode after the release of The Phantom Menace in the Desperately Xeeking Xena segment[[/note]] when The Collector grabs his double edged lightsaber.

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* WereStillRelevantDammit: A blatant example. The family goes to see [[BlandNameProduct Cosmic Wars: Episode I]], and it's a parody of the disappointment of Episode I, complete with an obvious Jar-Jar Binks potshot in Jim-Jam Bongs.Bonks. It would've been relevant in 1999 or 2000, but this episode was released in 2004. It also creates a CelebrityParadox because Franchise/StarWars has been referenced by name dozens of times. Even more insulting that they already made a quick direct reference of Episode I by name in the 1999 Treehouse of Horror episode [[note]]The first Halloween episode after the release of The Phantom Menace in the Desperately Xeeking Xena segment[[/note]] when The Collector grabs his double edged lightsaber.
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* WereStillRelevantDammit: A blatant example. The family goes to see [[BlandNameProduct Cosmic Wars: Episode I]], and it's a parody of the disappointment of Episode I. It would've been relevant in 1999 or 2000, but this episode was released in 2004. It also creates a CelebrityParadox because Franchise/StarWars has been referenced by name dozens of times. Even more insulting that they already made a quick direct reference of Episode I by name in the 1999 Treehouse of Horror episode [[note]]The first Halloween episode after the release of The Phantom Menace in the Desperately Xeeking Xena segment[[/note]] when The Collector grabs his double edged lightsaber.

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* WereStillRelevantDammit: A blatant example. The family goes to see [[BlandNameProduct Cosmic Wars: Episode I]], and it's a parody of the disappointment of Episode I.I, complete with an obvious Jar-Jar Binks potshot in Jim-Jam Bongs. It would've been relevant in 1999 or 2000, but this episode was released in 2004. It also creates a CelebrityParadox because Franchise/StarWars has been referenced by name dozens of times. Even more insulting that they already made a quick direct reference of Episode I by name in the 1999 Treehouse of Horror episode [[note]]The first Halloween episode after the release of The Phantom Menace in the Desperately Xeeking Xena segment[[/note]] when The Collector grabs his double edged lightsaber.
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* MoralEventHorizon: Homer framing Marge for a dui.

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* MoralEventHorizon: Homer framing Marge for a dui.DUI.
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* MoralEventHorizon: Homer framing Marge for a dui

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* MoralEventHorizon: Homer framing Marge for a duidui.
* NeverLiveItDown: Some fans were never able to see Homer the same way again after his actions in this episode.
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* MoralEventHorizon: Homer framing Marge for a dui
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* WereStillRelevantDammit: A blatant example. The family goes to see [[BlandNameProduct Cosmic Wars: Episode I]], and it's a parody of the disappointment of Episode I. It would've been relevant in 1999 or 2000, but this episode was released in 2004. It also creates a CelebrityParadox because Franchise/StarWars has been referenced by name dozens of times. Even more insulting that they already made a quick direct reference of Episode I by name in the 1999 Treehouse of Horror episode [[note]]The first Halloween episode after the release of The Phantom Menace in the Desperately Xeeking Xena segment[[/note]] when The Collector grabs his double edged lightsaber.

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