History YMMV / ThePrince

20th Feb '15 8:09:08 PM WLBH
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** There's also the theory that The Prince was written as a sort of jab at Cesare Borgia, the son of Pope Alexander VI, who had ambitions to unite all Italy and is often described as acting similar to Machiavelli's "ideal" prince. Machiavelli knew Cesare Borgia quite well, and was an adviser of Borgia's for a time, before eventually becoming disillusioned with the man and his plans.
14th Jan '15 3:42:32 PM RatherRandomRachel
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: One theory holds that [[http://www.cracked.com/article_18787_6-books-everyone-including-your-english-teacher-got-wrong.html Machiavelli was actually a satirist]]. This is not a crackpot theory held solely by humorists; ''The Prince'' is the only work of Machiavelli's that overtly argues for despotism, in contrast with his others, which deal with the administration of republics. Several scholars and [[{{Creator/JeanJacquesRousseau}} Rousseau]] agree; Rousseau writes, "Machiavelli's ''The Prince'' is the book of republicans... The court of Rome[[labelnote:note]]This refers to the Roman Curia, the court or cabinet which aids the Pope in administrative matters[[/labelnote]] has sternly prohibited his book. I can well believe it; it is the court he most clearly depicts."

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One theory holds that [[http://www.cracked.com/article_18787_6-books-everyone-including-your-english-teacher-got-wrong.html Machiavelli was actually a satirist]]. This is not a crackpot theory held solely by humorists; ''The Prince'' is the only work of Machiavelli's that overtly argues for despotism, in contrast with his others, which deal with the administration of republics. Several scholars and [[{{Creator/JeanJacquesRousseau}} Rousseau]] agree; Rousseau writes, "Machiavelli's ''The Prince'' is the book of republicans... The court of Rome[[labelnote:note]]This refers to the Roman Curia, the court or cabinet which aids the Pope in administrative matters[[/labelnote]] has sternly prohibited his book. I can well believe it; it is the court he most clearly depicts."


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** One other theory suggests that Machiavelli knew what the Renaissance would lead to a certain consciousness arising from the populace, and that what he had written in The Prince would be seen as disgusting by much of the populace, turning them against their political leaders. From there, it's suggested he knew they would topple their leaders, because they would outright hate them, making their own forms of liberal democracy, which is what he would have always wanted. Thus by writing about Machiavellian methods, he himself had a Machiavellian plot to bring republics to the general populace, by plotting against those who themselves would plot.
1st May '14 6:53:43 PM Specialist290
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** There are also those who push forward the view that, at root, Machiavelli was a realist -- he might have regarded a republic as the ideal form of government, but at the same time he desired a strong, unified Italy first, and believed that a republic would be unable to provide the focus on such a long-term goal that a state under a single prince could. Once Italy was united and relatively free from manipulation by outside powers to keep it divided, ''then'' the Italians could work out the transition from principality to republic.

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** There are also those who push forward the view that, at root, Machiavelli was a realist -- he might have regarded a republic as the ideal form of government, but at the same time he desired a strong, unified Italy first, and believed that a republic would be unable to provide the focus on such a long-term goal that a state under a single prince could. Once Italy was united and relatively free from manipulation by the outside powers to keep that had kept it divided, ''then'' the Italians could work out the transition from principality to republic.
1st May '14 6:52:39 PM Specialist290
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** There are also those who push forward the view that, at root, Machiavelli was a realist -- he might have regarded a republic as the ideal form of government, but at the same time he desired a strong, unified Italy first, and believed that a republic would be unable to provide the focus on such a long-term goal that a state under a single prince could. Once Italy was united and relatively free from manipulation by outside powers to keep it divided, ''then'' the Italians could work out the transition from principality to republic.
9th Apr '14 2:09:28 AM Prime_of_Perfection
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** While the above theory has become popular, given the details elaborated on inside of it, there is another that Machiavelli genuinely believed this is how one should approach a principality in it's most efficient way possible. While he was a firm believer that republics were better, he was also a believer that principalities could turn into republics & wasn't as anti-principality as some would lead people to believe.
23rd Feb '14 6:07:01 AM RatherRandomRachel
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: One theory holds that [[http://www.cracked.com/article_18787_6-books-everyone-including-your-english-teacher-got-wrong.html Machiavelli was actually a satirist]]. This is not a crackpot theory held solely by humorists; ''The Prince'' is the only work of Machiavelli's that overtly argues for despotism, in contrast with his others, which deal with the administration of republics. Several scholars and [[{{Creator/JeanJacquesRousseau}} Rousseau]] agree; Rousseau writes, "Machiavelli's ''The Prince'' is the book of republicans....The court of Rome has sternly prohibited his book. I can well believe it; it is the court he most clearly depicts."

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: One theory holds that [[http://www.cracked.com/article_18787_6-books-everyone-including-your-english-teacher-got-wrong.html Machiavelli was actually a satirist]]. This is not a crackpot theory held solely by humorists; ''The Prince'' is the only work of Machiavelli's that overtly argues for despotism, in contrast with his others, which deal with the administration of republics. Several scholars and [[{{Creator/JeanJacquesRousseau}} Rousseau]] agree; Rousseau writes, "Machiavelli's ''The Prince'' is the book of republicans....republicans... The court of Rome Rome[[labelnote:note]]This refers to the Roman Curia, the court or cabinet which aids the Pope in administrative matters[[/labelnote]] has sternly prohibited his book. I can well believe it; it is the court he most clearly depicts."
28th Aug '13 10:20:36 PM MysteriousF
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: One theory holds that [[http://www.cracked.com/article_18787_6-books-everyone-including-your-english-teacher-got-wrong.html Machiavelli was actually a satirist]]. This is not a crackpot theory held solely by humorists; ''The Prince'' is the only work of Machiavelli's that overtly argues for despotism, in contrast with his others, which deal with the administration of republics. Several scholars and [[JeanJacquesRousseau Rousseau]] agree; Rousseau writes, "Machiavelli's ''The Prince'' is the book of republicans....The court of Rome has sternly prohibited his book. I can well believe it; it is the court he most clearly depicts."

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: One theory holds that [[http://www.cracked.com/article_18787_6-books-everyone-including-your-english-teacher-got-wrong.html Machiavelli was actually a satirist]]. This is not a crackpot theory held solely by humorists; ''The Prince'' is the only work of Machiavelli's that overtly argues for despotism, in contrast with his others, which deal with the administration of republics. Several scholars and [[JeanJacquesRousseau [[{{Creator/JeanJacquesRousseau}} Rousseau]] agree; Rousseau writes, "Machiavelli's ''The Prince'' is the book of republicans....The court of Rome has sternly prohibited his book. I can well believe it; it is the court he most clearly depicts."
28th Aug '13 10:20:12 PM MysteriousF
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: One theory holds that [[http://www.cracked.com/article_18787_6-books-everyone-including-your-english-teacher-got-wrong.html Machiavelli was actually a satirist]]. This is not a crackpot theory held solely by humorists; ''The Prince'' is the only work of Machiavelli's that overtly argues for despotism, in contrast with his others, which deal with the administration of republics. Several scholars and [[RousseauWasRight Rousseau]] agree; Rousseau writes, "Machiavelli's ''The Prince'' is the book of republicans....The court of Rome has sternly prohibited his book. I can well believe it; it is the court he most clearly depicts."

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: One theory holds that [[http://www.cracked.com/article_18787_6-books-everyone-including-your-english-teacher-got-wrong.html Machiavelli was actually a satirist]]. This is not a crackpot theory held solely by humorists; ''The Prince'' is the only work of Machiavelli's that overtly argues for despotism, in contrast with his others, which deal with the administration of republics. Several scholars and [[RousseauWasRight [[JeanJacquesRousseau Rousseau]] agree; Rousseau writes, "Machiavelli's ''The Prince'' is the book of republicans....The court of Rome has sternly prohibited his book. I can well believe it; it is the court he most clearly depicts."
24th Aug '13 1:38:46 PM DynamicDragon
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16th May '13 10:32:56 AM ASplashingKoi
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: One theory holds that [[http://www.cracked.com/article_18787_6-books-everyone-including-your-english-teacher-got-wrong.html Machiavelli was actually a satirist]]. This is not a crackpot theory held solely by humorists; ''The Prince'' is the only work of Machiavelli's that overtly argues for despotism, in contrast with his others, which deal with the administration of republics. Several scholars and [[RousseauWasRight Rousseau]] agree; Rousseau writes, "Machiavelli's ''The Prince'' is the book of republicans....The court of Rome has sternly prohibited his book. I can well believe it; it is the court he most clearly depicts."

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: One theory holds that [[http://www.cracked.com/article_18787_6-books-everyone-including-your-english-teacher-got-wrong.html Machiavelli was actually a satirist]]. This is not a crackpot theory held solely by humorists; ''The Prince'' is the only work of Machiavelli's that overtly argues for despotism, in contrast with his others, which deal with the administration of republics. Several scholars and [[RousseauWasRight Rousseau]] agree; Rousseau writes, "Machiavelli's ''The Prince'' is the book of republicans....The court of Rome has sternly prohibited his book. I can well believe it; it is the court he most clearly depicts."
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