History YMMV / ThePilgrimsProgress

10th Aug '16 10:41:29 PM BroTim11
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* ValuesDissonance: Uh, yeah, some.

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* ValuesDissonance: Uh, yeah, some.There is some, especially to modern readers due to the increasing secularization of society.
10th Aug '16 10:40:39 PM BroTim11
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* {{Anvilicious}}: Very much so, and actually the reason it became popular: it was so [[{{Anvilicious}} anviliciously]] religious that the [[MoralGuardians Puritans]] considered it as suitable for reading on Sundays as the Bible itself.

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* {{Anvilicious}}: Very much and deliberately so, and actually the reason it became popular: it was its Christian message is so [[{{Anvilicious}} anviliciously]] religious anvilicious that the [[MoralGuardians Puritans]] considered approved of it, deeming it almost as suitable for reading on Sundays as the Bible itself.
10th Aug '16 10:34:14 PM BroTim11
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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: ''The Pilgrim's Progress'' can be a painful read for most readers today - including Christians - who aren't able or willing to look past the ValuesDissonance, unsubtlety and general preachiness of the book. The language doesn't help either, although there are editions with more modern writing.

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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: ''The Pilgrim's Progress'' can be a painful difficult read for most some readers today - today, including Christians - Christians, who aren't able or willing to look past the ValuesDissonance, unsubtlety directness and general preachiness of the book. book. The language doesn't help either, although there are editions with more modern writing.
10th Aug '16 10:32:21 PM BroTim11
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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: ''The Pilgrim's Progress'' would most likely be a painful read for most readers today - including Christians - who aren't able or willing to look past the ValuesDissonance, unsubtlety and general preachiness of the book. The language doesn't help either, although there are editions with more modern writing.

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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: ''The Pilgrim's Progress'' would most likely can be a painful read for most readers today - including Christians - who aren't able or willing to look past the ValuesDissonance, unsubtlety and general preachiness of the book. The language doesn't help either, although there are editions with more modern writing.
10th Aug '16 10:26:41 PM BroTim11
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** One of the "evil" characters is named Talkative. ''Talkative''. After all the other NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast, his seems enormously anticlimactic. Despite this, there is a point as being talkative can cause [[KnowItAllKnowNothing very]] [[MaliciousSlander serious]] [[LooseLips problems]].

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** One of the "evil" characters is named Talkative. ''Talkative''. After all the other NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast, his seems enormously anticlimactic. Despite this, there is a point as being talkative can cause [[KnowItAllKnowNothing [[KnowNothingKnowItAll very]] [[MaliciousSlander serious]] [[LooseLips problems]].
10th Aug '16 10:25:47 PM BroTim11
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** One of the "evil" characters is named Talkative. ''Talkative''. After all the other NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast, his seems enormously anticlimactic.

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** One of the "evil" characters is named Talkative. ''Talkative''. After all the other NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast, his seems enormously anticlimactic. Despite this, there is a point as being talkative can cause [[KnowItAllKnowNothing very]] [[MaliciousSlander serious]] [[LooseLips problems]].
11th Feb '16 2:16:42 AM Adept
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* ValuesDissonance: Uh, yeah, some. "Abandon your wife and children" isn't generally considered acceptable even as an allegory these days. Also, Ignorance's fate can come off as unnecessarily harsh and arbitrary. ("Look, sorry, you really need to go back and follow the proper path. You've done nothing wrong, so we'll hold a spot for you.")

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* ValuesDissonance: Uh, yeah, some.
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"Abandon your wife and children" isn't generally considered acceptable even as an allegory these days. Also, Ignorance's fate can come off as unnecessarily harsh and arbitrary. ("Look, sorry, you really need to go back and follow the proper path. You've done nothing wrong, so we'll hold a spot for you.")")
** In the second part, all four of Christiana's sons get married within a span of a few pages despite having no romance arcs with any of their wives. To modern viewers, this would seem like an extreme case of StrangledByTheRedString. In the 17th Century, getting married and having a family is seen as more important than experiencing romance, and people in those days usually get married ''before'' they fall in love with their spouses, rather than the other way around.
23rd Jan '16 10:07:34 AM GothicProphet
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* ValuesDissonance: Uh, yeah, some. "Abandon your wife and children" isn't generally considered acceptable even as an allegory these days. Also, Ignorance's fate can come off as unnecessarily harsh and arbitrary. ("Look, sorry, you really need to go back and follow the proper path. You've done nothing wrong, so we'll hold a spot for you.")

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* ValuesDissonance: Uh, yeah, some. "Abandon your wife and children" isn't generally considered acceptable even as an allegory these days. Also, Ignorance's fate can come off as unnecessarily harsh and arbitrary. ("Look, sorry, you really need to go back and follow the proper path. You've done nothing wrong, so we'll hold a spot for you.")")
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19th Apr '15 11:26:08 AM Trigger-of-Sorrow
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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: ''The Pilgrim's Progress'' would most likely be a painful read for most readers today - including Christians - who aren't able or willing to look past the ValuesDissonance, unsubtlety and general preachiness of the book. The language doesn't help either, although there are editions with more modern writing.
27th Mar '15 11:29:28 AM DracMonster
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* DesignatedEvil: One of the characters Christian comes across is Ignorance; a pleasant, friendly young man who tries to get into the Celestial City by doing good works and living his life according to Jesus' example, rather than simply through faith. He gets thrown into Hell for his arrogance.

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* DesignatedEvil: DesignatedEvil:
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One of the characters Christian comes across is Ignorance; a pleasant, friendly young man who tries to get into the Celestial City by doing good works and living his life according to Jesus' example, rather than simply through faith. He gets thrown into Hell for his arrogance.
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