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* JerksAreWorseThanVillains: Sauron and Saruman are too EvilIsCool and in regards to the former not really that hateable of a personality. Gollum is also too sympathetic to be hates, Nazgûl have little personality. The most hated character is the Mouth of Sauron, Sauron's cruel and sadistic bully of a right-hand man who simply taunts the heroes at the gate.
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** During the reference footage for the many running scenes, [[https://youtu.be/pe6ybP_V8oI?t=29 there is a bit where]] the badass woodsman Aragorn clumsily trips and falls flat on his face. They didn't even bother to edit that bit out.

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** During the reference footage for the many running scenes, [[https://youtu.be/pe6ybP_V8oI?t=29 there is a bit where]] the badass woodsman Aragorn clumsily trips and falls flat on his face. They didn't even bother to edit that bit out.[[note]]Another explanation for this incident's bizarre inclusion in the film is because the actor apparently broke his foot in the tripping; old filmmaking tradition goes if an actor or stuntman ever harms themselves in doing a take then that is the take you ''have to'' use -- it is considered disrespectful to not use the footage or to ask for another attempt.[[/note]]
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** Come to think of it, Gandalf spends most of his scenes [[MilkingTheGiantCow raving his arms around like a lunatic whenever he speaks]]. The actor in the reference footage clearly was told to overact as much as possible.
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* FightSceneFailure: Owing to the up-and-down animation quality and the untrained nature of the rotoscoped performances, a lot of fight scenes have the look of low-rent stage fighting. Blows lack any weight (because they're made by actors trying not to hurt each other), strikes are aimed primarily at the opponent's weapon, and both sides do little besides inexpert flailing.

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* FightSceneFailure: Owing to the up-and-down animation quality and the untrained nature of the rotoscoped performances, a lot of fight scenes have the look of low-rent stage fighting. Blows lack any weight (because they're made by actors trying not to hurt each other), [[{{Flynning}} strikes are aimed primarily at the opponent's weapon, weapon]], and both sides do little besides inexpert flailing.
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* GenreTurningPoint: There is no doubt that ''The Lord of the Rings'' stands as one of the seminal, mololithic, and overshadowing works of the Fantasy genre, that has basically influrenced pretty much every single work that came after it. This quote by Creator/TerryPratchett perhaps sums it up best:
-->''"Creator/JRRTolkien has become a sort of mountain, appearing in all subsequent fantasy in the way that Mt. Fuji appears so often in Japanese prints. Sometimes it's big and up close. Sometimes it's a shape on the horizon. Sometimes it's not there at all, which means that the artist either has made a deliberate decision against the mountain, which is interesting in itself, or is in fact standing on Mt. Fuji."''
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** The year of passing of Tolkien, 1973, being reversed to "3 7 9 1", i.e. three rings for the Elves, seven for the Dwarves, nine for the Humans, and the One Ring for Sauron.
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** The Ring is a force of great power that is alluring to men, but cannot be controlled even if its power is harnessed and will twist you into a monster before it kills you. This is in no way a metaphor for nuclear power and weapons or radiation poisoning, the Ring's powers are completely literal.

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** The Ring is a force of great power that is alluring to men, but cannot be controlled even if its power is harnessed and will twist you into a monster before it kills you. This is in no way a metaphor for nuclear power and weapons or radiation poisoning, poisoning; the Ring's powers are completely literal.

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* RetroactiveRecognition: With many people likely now coming to the film after seeing the Jackson films, the parts he took direct inspiration from really stand out. Most notably the "Proudfeet!" shot in the Shire, and scene of the hobbits hiding from a Nazgûl under a tree was duplicated almost shot for shot. He also elected to end the ''Two Towers'' film in the exact same spot this film does in both storylines rather than where the book ends.

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With many people likely now coming to the film after seeing the Jackson films, the parts he took direct inspiration from really stand out. Most notably the "Proudfeet!" shot in the Shire, and scene of the hobbits hiding from a Nazgûl under a tree was duplicated almost shot for shot. He also elected to end the ''Two Towers'' film in the exact same spot this film does in both storylines rather than where the book ends.ends.
** Galadriel is voiced by Creator/AnnetteCrosbie, who would later be best known for playing Margaret Meldrew in ''Series/OneFootInTheGrave''.
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--> '''Tokien''': I cordially dislike allegory in all its manifestations, and always have done since I grew old and wary enough to detect its presence.

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--> '''Tokien''': '''Tolkien''': I cordially dislike allegory in all its manifestations, and always have done since I grew old and wary enough to detect its presence.

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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: Early on in ''The Fellowship of the Ring'', Tolkien briefly stops the action to describe a fox's train of thought, which runs: "‘Hobbits!’ he thought. ‘Well, what next? I have heard of strange doings in this land, but I have seldom heard of a hobbit sleeping out of doors under a tree. Three of them! There’s something mighty queer behind this.’ He was quite right, but he never found out any more about it." This was likely a holdover from the early drafts of the story, which were more in the vein of ''the Hobbit'' explaining the narrative aside.

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Early on in ''The Fellowship of the Ring'', Tolkien briefly stops the action to describe a fox's train of thought, which runs: "‘Hobbits!’ he thought. ‘Well, what next? I have heard of strange doings in this land, but I have seldom heard of a hobbit sleeping out of doors under a tree. Three of them! There’s something mighty queer behind this.’ He was quite right, but he never found out any more about it." This was likely a holdover from the early drafts of the story, which were more in the vein of ''the Hobbit'' explaining the narrative aside.aside.
** The infamous encounter with Tom Bombadil clashes both with the mood of the story at that point, and any established lore as well. Plenty of EpilepticTrees have been planted by fans trying to figure out what's the deal with him, to no explanation better than that Tolkien brought him over from a separate story he wrote because he felt like it.


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** Mistaking changes introduced by Peter Jackson's adaptation for the content of the books is a sure-fire way to get the die-hard fans riled.


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** The popularity of the book with the American counter-culture of the Sixties was a thing Tolkien himself struggled to wrap his head around. While he wasn't, strictly speaking, ''opposed'' to having this sort of fandom and they weren't as misaimed about the book's themes as, say, aforementioned racial supremacists, there probably weren't all that many issues on which they would see eye-to-eye with a stately, quaintly conservative, devoutly religious elderly English professor of literature.

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* OnceOriginalNowOverdone: As the TropeCodifier for all of modern western Fantasy, this is practically inevitable. After decades of imitation, inspiration, homage, subversion, and parody by dozens if not hundreds of authors, by the time someone gets to the real thing it can seem [[StandardFantasySetting unbelievably stereotypical.]] Of course, they ''weren't'' tired clichés when Tolkien wrote them; his setting was just so successful that everyone copied him! Creator/TerryPratchett probably said it best when he compared the influence of Tolkien on modern fantasy to Mount Fuji in pictures of Japan: It's always there. Sometimes it's big and up close, sometimes far and distant, but it's always visible (unless you either ''deliberately'' look away from it, or you are, in fact, standing on top of it).



* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: As the TropeCodifier for all of modern western Fantasy, this is practically inevitable. After decades of imitation, inspiration, homage, subversion, and parody by dozens if not hundreds of authors, by the time someone gets to the real thing it can seem [[StandardFantasySetting unbelievably stereotypical.]] Of course, they ''weren't'' tired clichés when Tolkien wrote them; his setting was just so successful that everyone copied him! Creator/TerryPratchett probably said it best when he compared the influence of Tolkien on modern fantasy to Mount Fuji in pictures of Japan: It's always there. Sometimes it's big and up close, sometimes far and distant, but it's always visible (unless you either ''deliberately'' look away from it, or you are, in fact, standing on top of it).

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* NarmCharm: In any other setting, Mount Doom being named as such should have made it the prime example of a lack of creativity on Sauron's part. Somehow in here, characters and readers alike say this name with absolute seriousness and terror. (Contrast the exoticism of the Elvish equivalent, Amon Amarth, which on its face is AGoodNameForARockBand - [[Music/AmonAmarth or a metal one]].)

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In any other setting, Mount Doom being named as such should have made it the prime example of a lack of creativity on Sauron's part. Somehow in here, characters and readers alike say this name with absolute seriousness and terror. (Contrast the exoticism of the Elvish equivalent, Amon Amarth, which on its face is AGoodNameForARockBand - [[Music/AmonAmarth or a metal one]].))
** Similarly, the book makes a big deal out of the ring on Galadriel's finger - it's one of the original three given to the Elves - and it looks semi-ornate, in addition to being one of the most powerful magic rings when wielded by Galadriel herself. The single ''most'' powerful ring, the One Ring, is a normal-looking gold band, which seems kind of weird in retrospect as it holds none of the ornate or spectacular looks of modern magic rings of power in fantasy settings. This helps enhance the maliciousness of it, as being a normal-looking ring - even Bilbo is confused when he first finds it and it takes Gandalf almost ''fifty years'' to recognize what it really is - makes it incredibly beneath suspicion, to the point where the events of the book are almost a last-ditch effort because it evaded detection for so long.
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** Tom Bombadil big time. Whether you enjoy his portion of the book or find it unnecessary is completely up in the air.

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** Tom Bombadil Bombadil, big time. Whether you enjoy his portion of the book or find it unnecessary is completely up in the air.



** Whether the books are better than the movies or vice versa.

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* MagnificentBastard: See [[MagnificentBastard/TolkiensLegendarium here.]]

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* MagnificentBastard: See [[MagnificentBastard/TolkiensLegendarium here.]][[LargeAndInCharge Uglúk]] is the leader of Saruman's fighting Uruk-hai. A [[HiddenDepths surprisingly intelligent and savvy Uruk]] who is wholly loyal to Saruman, Uglúk leads his "lads" to surround the Fellowship and capture the Hobbits while also [[HeroKiller causing the death of Boromir]] whom Uglúk is indicated to have delivered the mortal blow to. Keeping control of a divided force of Orcs, Uglúk is able to keep ahead of the Rohirrim by his own tactics and seeks to deliver the Hobbits Merry and Pippin to his master in Isengard.
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* MagnificentBastard: [[LargeAndInCharge Uglúk]] is the leader of Saruman's fighting Uruk-hai. A [[HiddenDepths surprisingly intelligent and savvy Uruk]] who is wholly loyal to Saruman, Uglúk leads his "lads" to surround the Fellowship and capture the Hobbits while also [[HeroKiller causing the death of Boromir]] whom Uglúk is indicated to have delivered the mortal blow to. Keeping control of a divided force of Orcs, Uglúk is able to keep ahead of the Rohirrim by his own tactics and seeks to deliver the Hobbits Merry and Pippin to his master in Isengard.

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* MagnificentBastard: [[LargeAndInCharge Uglúk]] is the leader of Saruman's fighting Uruk-hai. A [[HiddenDepths surprisingly intelligent and savvy Uruk]] who is wholly loyal to Saruman, Uglúk leads his "lads" to surround the Fellowship and capture the Hobbits while also [[HeroKiller causing the death of Boromir]] whom Uglúk is indicated to have delivered the mortal blow to. Keeping control of a divided force of Orcs, Uglúk is able to keep ahead of the Rohirrim by his own tactics and seeks to deliver the Hobbits Merry and Pippin to his master in Isengard.See [[MagnificentBastard/TolkiensLegendarium here.]]
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** Similarly, Legolas's hair color is often taken for granted to be blond, since his father the Elvenking in ''The Hobbit'' has explicitly "golden" hair, and most visual depictions have gone with this. But some readers argue he is actually brunet, pointing to a scene where he shoots a Ringwraith and his fell beast out of the air, where "his head was dark". However, this takes place at night.

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** Similarly, Legolas's hair color is often taken for granted to be blond, since his father the Elvenking in ''The Hobbit'' has explicitly "golden" hair, and most visual depictions have gone with this. But some readers argue he is actually brunet, brunette, pointing to a scene where he shoots a Ringwraith and his fell beast out of the air, where "his head was dark". However, this takes place at night.
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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: The book series only really took off when it was embraced by the American counterculture after the paperback editions were published there.

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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: The book series only really took off when it was embraced by the American counterculture after the paperback editions were published there. It also became so extremely popular in Sweden in the 1970s that their national non-commercial TV made a film of the first half of Fellowship of the Ring (it was pretty bad, suffering from too much cheap blue-screen technology). Interestingly, the trilogy was translated already in 1958 but spent the 1960s in relative obscurity.
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** The general picture of the fundamental worldbuilding throughout the setting's fictional history is of "the West", analogues of European peoples (including the mythological-derived creatures like elves and dwarves), facing the invading forces of "the East" and "the South" which are analogues of Asian and African peoples (plus orcs and trolls which are also derived from European mythlore) which, coupled with the [[ColorCodedForYourConvenience broad strokes symbolism]] of "white" and "light" standing for "good" and "black" and "darkness" standing for "evil", leads to accusations of racism or at least Eurocentrism.For his part Tolkien was averse to being associated with racism and discrimination, but also was upfront about his inspirations mainly revolving around European culture and history vis-a-vis the rest of the world.

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** The general picture of the fundamental worldbuilding throughout the setting's fictional history is of "the West", analogues of European peoples (including the mythological-derived creatures like elves and dwarves), facing the invading forces of "the East" and "the South" which are analogues of Asian and African peoples (plus orcs and trolls which are also derived from European mythlore) which, coupled with the [[ColorCodedForYourConvenience broad strokes symbolism]] of "white" and "light" standing for "good" and "black" and "darkness" standing for "evil", leads to accusations of racism or at least Eurocentrism. For his part Tolkien was averse to being associated with racism and discrimination, but also was upfront about his inspirations mainly revolving around European culture and history vis-a-vis the rest of the world.
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** Éowyn settling down with Faramir does NOT equal to her either [[DieForOurShip "just settling for second best"]] or [[StayInTheKitchen becoming a boring housewife.]] Her and Faramir's relationship is a part of AnAesop of the book that peace, healing and nurturing are better than war and violence (especially when the war is over) with language evoking a CallToAgriculture. Éowyn befriends and eventually falls for a man who helps her realize that she was more of a DeathSeeker than anything else, so ultimately she chooses life over death, and falls for someone who even as a ForestRanger ordered his men never to kill without need. Also, becoming a ruling lady of a princedom is different from becoming a housewife: it's a very tough position. The fandom, and specially fangirls, insists that Eówyn was [[ChickiFication chickified]] and "reduced" to a TrophyWife or a HouseWife. Ironically for modern readers, shieldmaidens in actual Norse sagas hung up their weapons whenever they married ("maiden" refers to being an unmarried woman), so Éowyn is perfectly in line with her legendary forebears.

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** Éowyn settling down with Faramir does NOT equal to her either [[DieForOurShip "just settling for second best"]] or [[StayInTheKitchen becoming a boring housewife.]] Her and Faramir's relationship is a part of AnAesop of the book that peace, healing and nurturing are better than war and violence (especially when the war is over) with language evoking a CallToAgriculture. Éowyn befriends and eventually falls for a man who helps her realize that she was more of a DeathSeeker than anything else, so ultimately she chooses life over death, and falls for someone who even as a ForestRanger ordered his men never to kill without need. Also, becoming a ruling lady of a princedom is different from becoming a housewife: it's a very tough position. The fandom, and specially fangirls, insists that Eówyn was [[ChickiFication chickified]] and "reduced" to a TrophyWife or a HouseWife. Ironically for modern readers, shieldmaidens in actual Norse sagas hung up their weapons whenever they married ("maiden" refers to being an unmarried woman), so Éowyn is perfectly in line with her legendary forebears. It also helps that most of the main characters follow this homely path after the events of the story, not just her. Gimli and Legolas spend their remaining years just spending time together, and eventually sail off to the Gray Havens ''together''. Aragorn becomes a peaceful ruler with Arwen. The Hobbits all go home and settle down, except for Frodo.
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* SugarWiki/HeReallyCanAct: Creator/AnthonyDaniels really shows off his range by playing Legolas with the dignity and respect you’d expect a noble and brave elf warrior would showcase. A far cry from his more well-known performance as the bumbling-yet-loveable [[Franchise/StarWars Threepio]], huh?

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* SugarWiki/HeReallyCanAct: Creator/AnthonyDaniels really ''really'' shows off his range by playing Legolas with the dignity and respect you’d expect a noble and brave elf warrior would showcase. A far cry from his more well-known performance as the bumbling-yet-loveable [[Franchise/StarWars Threepio]], huh?



* JustHereForGodzilla: Some people, mostly ''Franchise/StarWars'' fans, watch this movie solely because it features Creator/AnthonyDaniels in his only major movie role that '''ISN’T''' C-3PO.

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* SugarWiki/HeReallyCanAct: Creator/AnthonyDaniels really shows off his range by playing Legolas with the dignity and respect you’d expect a noble and brave elf warrior would showcase. A far cry from his more well-known performance as the bumbling-yet-loveable [[Franchise/StarWars Threepio]], huh?


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* JustHereForGodzilla: Some people, mostly ''Franchise/StarWars'' fans, watch this movie solely because it features Creator/AnthonyDaniels in his only major movie role that '''ISN’T''' C-3PO.
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*CompleteMonster: ''The Two Towers'': [[AnimalisticAbomination Shelob]] is "an evil thing in [[GiantSpider spider-form]]" and the last child of Ungoliant. A self-serving [[VillainousGlutton glutton]] whose only concern is to feast on as much life as possible, Shelob has haunted Cirith Ungol for thousands of years, targeting Elves, Men, Orcs and anyone else who comes near her lair; her capacity for death lead her to become [[Characters/TheLordOfTheRingsTheForcesOfSauron Sauron's unofficial executioner]], regularly given Sauron's prisoners to "play with" then consume at her leisure. Shelob injects a paralyzing venom into her victims, then strings them up for sometimes days to stew in their fear before she drinks their blood and rends them with her claws. The progenitor of other giant spiders that terrorize Middle-Earth, like the ones in Mirkwood, Shelob makes a habit of [[VillainousIncest breeding with her offspring]], then [[OffingTheOffspring killing and eating them]] just as she would any other prey. Shelob's only desire is the consumption of all living beings in Middle-Earth, and she is one of the most evil entities that Frodo and Sam confront on their quest.

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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: As the TropeCodifier for all of modern western Fantasy, this is practically inevitable. After decades of imitation, inspiration, homage, subversion, and parody by dozens if not hundreds of authors, by the time someone gets to the real thing it can seem [[StandardFantasySetting unbelievably stereotypical.]] Of course, they ''weren't'' tired clichés when Tolkien wrote them; his setting was just so successful that everyone copied him!
** Creator/TerryPratchett probably said it best when he compared the influence of Tolkien on modern fantasy to Mount Fuji in pictures of Japan: It's always there. Sometimes it's big and up close, sometimes far and distant, but it's always visible (unless you either ''deliberately'' look away from it, or you are, in fact, standing on top of it).

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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: As the TropeCodifier for all of modern western Fantasy, this is practically inevitable. After decades of imitation, inspiration, homage, subversion, and parody by dozens if not hundreds of authors, by the time someone gets to the real thing it can seem [[StandardFantasySetting unbelievably stereotypical.]] Of course, they ''weren't'' tired clichés when Tolkien wrote them; his setting was just so successful that everyone copied him!
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him! Creator/TerryPratchett probably said it best when he compared the influence of Tolkien on modern fantasy to Mount Fuji in pictures of Japan: It's always there. Sometimes it's big and up close, sometimes far and distant, but it's always visible (unless you either ''deliberately'' look away from it, or you are, in fact, standing on top of it).
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** The Orcs, helped by the fact that Tolkien was worried about the implications of the AlwaysChaoticEvil trope (that he detested) and apparently intended for them to be ProudWarriorRaceGuys serving Sauron only because of his power over them. He had actually planned to have Frodo meet some helpful Orcs but hadn't figured out where to work their scene in. He would have introduced this part of them and expanded their role in future editions too, except...

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** The Orcs, helped by the fact that Tolkien was worried about the implications of the AlwaysChaoticEvil trope (that he detested) and apparently intended for them to be ProudWarriorRaceGuys serving Sauron only because of his power over them. He had actually planned to have Frodo meet some helpful Orcs but hadn't figured out where to work their scene in. He would have introduced this part of them and expanded their role in future editions too, except...[[DiedDuringProduction but sadly his death got in the way of that]].
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** Although the narration points out that Haradrim/Southrons and Easterlings (whose homelands are broadly analogous to Africa and Asia) are working for Sauron due to coercion, deception, and/or a historical grudge stemming from Númenor's history of brutal imperialism, and that most of the foot soldiers would ''much'' rather be living peaceful lives at home, the textual descriptions of them as looking cruel, alien, or even troll-like to the good and fair people of the West (and Gollum) can still be acutely uncomfortable to read.

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** Although the narration points out that Haradrim/Southrons and Easterlings (whose homelands are broadly analogous to Africa and Asia) are working for Sauron due to coercion, deception, and/or a historical grudge stemming from Númenor's history of brutal imperialism, and that most of the foot soldiers would ''much'' rather be living peaceful lives at home, the textual descriptions of them as looking cruel, alien, or even troll-like to the good and fair people of the West (and Gollum) ([[MyFriendsAndZoidberg and Gollum]]) can still be acutely uncomfortable to read.
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* UnpopularPopularCharacter: Gollum is at best pitied and more often loathed by every character he interacts with in-universe. Out-of-universe, he's one of the story's most iconic characters. Not only is he one of the few sympathetic villains, he also gets a lot of great lines and serves as an interesting WildCard in the narrative, as well as his odd speech and split personality making him quite memorable. His appearance in the films, played by Creator/AndySerkis, only solidified this, as it turned the character into [[SerkisFolk a technological and filmmaking achievement]] as well as a great performance.
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* SlowPacedBeginning: It takes around half of ''The Fellowship of the Ring'' to properly start the quest of the Ring.

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* SlowPacedBeginning: It takes around half of ''The Fellowship of the Ring'' to properly start the quest of the Ring. and even then, the stakes are fairly muted for much of the early journey.
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** Creator/TerryPratchett probably said it best when he compared the influence of Tolkien on modern fantasy to Mount Fuji in Japan: It's always there. Sometimes it's big and up close, sometimes far and distant, but it's always visible (unless you either ''deliberately'' look away from it, or you are, in fact, standing on top of it).

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** Creator/TerryPratchett probably said it best when he compared the influence of Tolkien on modern fantasy to Mount Fuji in pictures of Japan: It's always there. Sometimes it's big and up close, sometimes far and distant, but it's always visible (unless you either ''deliberately'' look away from it, or you are, in fact, standing on top of it).

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