History YMMV / TheLordOfTheRings

8th Oct '17 4:00:45 AM MicoolTNT
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* OnlyTheAuthorCanSaveThemNow: At the climax on Mount Doom, Frodo has ultimately fallen to TheCorruption and will not choose to throw the ring into the cracks. So Gollum has to try for the Ring and fall in himself, taking the Ring with him. In this case, the trope fits in with the previously-established themes of the book: No one ''could'' resist the Ring's corruption long enough to complete the quest, mirroring the fact that man cannot save himself without the aid of divine grace, and the event that ultimately saved the Quest resulted from an apparently independent choice made earlier (Bilbo's pity).

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* OnlyTheAuthorCanSaveThemNow: At the climax on Mount Doom, Frodo has ultimately fallen to TheCorruption and will not choose to throw the ring into the cracks. So Gollum has to try for the Ring and fall in himself, taking the Ring with him. In this case, the trope fits in with the previously-established themes of the book: No one ''could'' resist the Ring's corruption long enough to complete the quest, mirroring the fact "fact" that man cannot save himself without the aid of divine grace, and the event that ultimately saved the Quest resulted from an apparently independent choice made earlier (Bilbo's pity).
3rd Oct '17 4:59:32 PM Josef5678
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* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: There are ''numerous'' instances when Jackson attempts to psych the audience into thinking a character is going to die - when even someone who has never read the book can tell, just by looking at the running time, "[[SpoiledByTheFormat It's twenty minutes into movie one]], the four main characters are not going to all die" or "No way Aragorn is going to be [[DroppedABridgeOnHim killed by an anonymous drop off a cliff]]."
** Although for those not familiar with the books, there ''are'' several heroic characters who die, [[UnbuiltTrope subverting our modern traditions of hero-immortality.]]

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* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: There are ''numerous'' instances when Jackson attempts to psych the audience into thinking a character is going to die - when even someone who has never read the book can tell, just by looking at the running time, "[[SpoiledByTheFormat It's twenty minutes into movie one]], the four main characters are not going to all die" or "No way Aragorn is going to be [[DroppedABridgeOnHim killed by an anonymous drop off a cliff]]."
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" Although for those not familiar with the books, there ''are'' several heroic characters who die, [[UnbuiltTrope subverting our modern traditions of hero-immortality.]]



** '''"They're taking the hobbits to Isengard!"'''
*** This is a bit of an odd one as the line was perfectly fine in the book, but then the film failed to make clear that there was some question of whether the orcs were going to Isengard or Mordor, making it seem like just another one of Legolas' CaptainObvious moments.

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** '''"They're taking the hobbits to Isengard!"'''
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Isengard!"'''[[note]]This is a bit of an odd one as the line was perfectly fine in the book, but then the film failed to make clear that there was some question of whether the orcs were going to Isengard or Mordor, making it seem like just another one of Legolas' Legolas's CaptainObvious moments.[[/note]]



* OlderThanTheyLook:
** Billy Boyd is actually the oldest of the four main Hobbit actors, and was in his early 30s when the films were made.
** For the record, Elijah Wood was the youngest of the four hobbit actors (he was the youngest member of the ''entire cast'', in fact). In the books, Frodo is the oldest of the four hobbits and Pippin is the youngest.



** Gollum [[WhenHeSmiles when he smiles]].

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** Gollum [[WhenHeSmiles when he smiles]].WhenHeSmiles.



* VisualEffectsOfAwesome: The trilogy was basically the ''StarWars'' of its time, shattering the boundaries of visual effects. Go to the main page for the details.

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* VisualEffectsOfAwesome: SugarWiki/VisualEffectsOfAwesome: The trilogy was basically the ''StarWars'' ''Franchise/StarWars'' of its time, shattering the boundaries of visual effects. Go to the main page for the details.effects.
30th Sep '17 12:44:46 PM Flurrin
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* UncannyValley: A rare 2D animated version. Since each cel was traced from live-action black and white film, the character's faces go through uncomfortable morphing to suit both the character and the actor, and the effect can be...off-putting.
27th Sep '17 4:18:06 AM CaptEquinox
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** It was this series that popularized the entire concept of telling a story in three parts. Ironically, Tolkien intended it to be published as one work and hated that he had to split it up.

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** It was this series that popularized the entire concept of telling a story in three parts.[[note]]Re-popularized it, in fact, since the three-volume novel had been [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-volume_novel insanely popular in the Victorian era]][[/note]]. Ironically, Tolkien intended it to be published as one work and hated that he had to split it up.



** Tolkien seemed to think it was acceptable (under some circumstances) for platonic same-sex friends to hug, kiss, sleep together, and express deep love for each other. [[EveryoneIsGay Modern readers commonly disagree.]]

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** Tolkien seemed to think it was acceptable (under some circumstances) for platonic same-sex friends to hug, kiss, sleep together, and express deep love for each other.other, like a [[RomanticTwoGirlFriendship Romantic Two-Guy Friendship]]. [[EveryoneIsGay Modern readers commonly disagree.]]
16th Sep '17 5:24:05 PM DustSnitch
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* MisaimedFandom: A lot of fans cheer for Eowyn because, [[RealWomenDontWearDresses unlike Arwen]], she's a BadassPrincess who [[RoyalsWhoActuallyDoSomething gets a lot of]] [[ActionGirl action and fighting]], while Arwen does no fighting and her arc mainly revolves around her love for Aragorn. Modern fans tend to miss that Tolkien chose to write strong heroines who's dreams are portrayed as equally valid to one another, as well as that Arwen's choice is a difficult one and entirely her own and no less right than Eowyn's choice to fight (and they sometimes forget Eowyn retires from war once it's over and happily settles with Faramir).

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* MisaimedFandom: A lot of fans cheer for Eowyn because, [[RealWomenDontWearDresses unlike Arwen]], she's a BadassPrincess an ActionGirl who [[RoyalsWhoActuallyDoSomething gets a lot of]] [[ActionGirl action and fighting]], while Arwen does no fighting and her arc mainly revolves around her love for Aragorn. Modern fans tend to miss that Tolkien chose to write strong heroines who's dreams are portrayed as equally valid to one another, as well as that Arwen's choice is a difficult one and entirely her own and no less right than Eowyn's choice to fight (and they sometimes forget Eowyn retires from war once it's over and happily settles with Faramir).
12th Sep '17 2:11:31 PM Josef5678
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* Whether or not Eowyn giving up her ActionGirl and GlorySeeker tendencies to become a [[HouseWife wife]] and [[EmpathicHealer healer]] is (even if unintentionally) a case of StayInTheKitchen on the part of Tolkien is still hotly debated to this day. (To a lesser extent, whether or not her PairTheSpairs with Faramir is a case of StrangledByTheRedString.)

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* ** Whether or not Eowyn Éowyn giving up her ActionGirl and GlorySeeker tendencies to become a [[HouseWife wife]] and [[EmpathicHealer healer]] is (even if unintentionally) a case of StayInTheKitchen on the part of Tolkien is still hotly debated to this day. (To a lesser extent, whether or not her PairTheSpairs PairTheSpares with Faramir is a case of StrangledByTheRedString.)
10th Sep '17 5:23:57 PM Give1Take2
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* Whether or not Eowyn giving up her ActionGirl and GlorySeeker tendencies to become a [[HouseWife wife]] and [[EmpathicHealer healer]] is (even if unintentionally) a case of StayInTheKitchen on the part of Tolkien is still hotly debated to this day. (To a lesser extent, whether or not her PairTheSpairs with Faramir is a case of StrangledByTheRedString.)
4th Sep '17 2:47:02 AM Daisy06
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* NeverLiveItDown: While more of a BaseBreakingCharacter than [[TheScrappy a scrappy]], Frodo is often accused and criticized for doing nothing but get his ass saved from the trouble he's in and abusing poor Sam. Many, however, tend to forget that he chose to bear the weight of the One Ring which is physically and mentally wearing him down throughout the entire trilogy, and that said "abuse" is due to the Ring warping his mind. The results would no doubt be the same if another person were to take up the task.



* NeverLiveItDown: While more of a BaseBreakingCharacter than [[TheScrappy a scrappy]], Frodo is often accused and criticized for doin' nothing but get his ass saved from the trouble he's in and abusing poor Sam. Many, however, tend to forget that he chose to bear the weight of the One Ring which is physically and mentally wearing him down throughout the entire trilogy, and that said "abuse" is due to the Ring warping his mind. The results would no doubt be the same if another person were to take up the task.
17th Aug '17 4:06:12 AM BlackSwan81
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* HoYay:

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* HoYay:HoYay: Kind of inevitable given the gender ratio of the main cast.
9th Aug '17 1:41:07 PM Josef5678
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* {{Narm}}: Some lines in the book come off as rather narmy, like "praise them with great praise" and "their joy was like swords".

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Some lines in the book come off as rather narmy, like "praise them with great praise" and "their joy was like swords".
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