History YMMV / TheLordOfTheRings

21st Sep '16 4:18:00 PM N8han11
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** At the Battle of Helm's Deep, Théoden sends the women and children to hide in the caves... well, roughly half the children, at any rate. All boys able to bear a sword are torn from their mothers' arms and forcibly conscripted for what is sure to be a suicide mission. At the opposite end of the spectrum, very elderly and feeble men are also drafted, per Théoden's orders, and one of them starts the battle early when, unable to hold his bow steady, he accidentally shoots an Uruk Hai warrior. Unsurprisingly, the boys and old men are slaughtered, while the able-bodied women of soldiering age, who, though also untrained, would at least stand a better chance of not being instantly killed, cower in the caves, completely unutilized. Aside from the fact that most modern audiences associate child soldiers with tyrants like General Butt Naked and Joseph Kony, were it not for the assistance of the Elven reinforcements and the eleventh hour arrival of Gandalf with Éomer and the Rohirrim, every last person at Helm's Deep would have been killed. And, with a niece like Éowyn, it's not like the idea of a sword-wielding woman is completely alien to him.

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** At the Battle of Helm's Deep, Théoden sends the women and children to hide in the caves... well, roughly half the children, at any rate. All boys able to bear a sword are torn from their mothers' arms and forcibly conscripted for what is sure to be a suicide mission. At the opposite end of the spectrum, very elderly and feeble men are also drafted, per Théoden's orders, and one of them starts the battle early when, unable to hold his bow steady, he accidentally shoots an Uruk Hai warrior. Unsurprisingly, the boys and old men are slaughtered, while the able-bodied women of soldiering age, who, though also untrained, would at least stand a better chance of not being instantly killed, cower in the caves, completely unutilized. Aside from the fact that most modern audiences associate child soldiers with tyrants like General Butt Naked and Joseph Kony, were it not for the assistance of the Elven reinforcements and the eleventh hour arrival of Gandalf with Éomer and the Rohirrim, every last person at Helm's Deep would have been killed. And, with a niece like Éowyn, it's not like the idea of a sword-wielding woman is completely alien to him.
16th Sep '16 12:22:17 PM MrDeath
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** The Orc runner who carries the torch to set of the charges that breach Helm's Deep. For one thing he's completely shirtless and running down a trench of cheering, roaring Orcs. It'd be like some kind of twisted version of the Olympics if it weren't so ridiculous. The WebOriginal/NostalgiaCritic explicitly made this gag during his review, complete with a sample from Chariot of Fire.

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** The Orc runner who carries the torch to set of the charges that breach Helm's Deep. For one thing he's completely shirtless and running down a trench of cheering, roaring Orcs. It'd be like some kind of twisted version of the Olympics if it weren't so ridiculous. The WebOriginal/NostalgiaCritic explicitly made this gag during his review, complete with a sample from Chariot of Fire.
16th Sep '16 10:01:42 AM Daethalion
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** The Orc runner who carries the torch to set of the charges that breach Helm's Deep. For one thing he's completely shirtless and running down a trench of cheering, roaring Orcs. It'd be like some kind of twisted version of the Olympics if it weren't so ridiculous.

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** The Orc runner who carries the torch to set of the charges that breach Helm's Deep. For one thing he's completely shirtless and running down a trench of cheering, roaring Orcs. It'd be like some kind of twisted version of the Olympics if it weren't so ridiculous. The WebOriginal/NostalgiaCritic explicitly made this gag during his review, complete with a sample from Chariot of Fire.
10th Sep '16 5:25:26 PM DoktorvonEurotrash
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* AwardSnub: Issac Asimov thought so, at least. When his own ''{{Foundation}}'' trilogy got the special Hugo Award for "Best Series," he stated that he thought ''Lord of the Rings'' deserved it more.

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* AwardSnub: Issac Isaac Asimov thought so, at least. When his own ''{{Foundation}}'' trilogy got the special Hugo Award for "Best Series," he stated that he thought ''Lord of the Rings'' deserved it more.
26th Aug '16 1:03:14 PM libertydude
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* HilariousInHindsight: One of the reasons this film never got a sequel was that producers doubted that anybody would be willing to see a story split into two different movies. Fast-forward to present-day, and not only did PeterJackson's [[Film/TheLordOfTheRings films]] split up the story and still make billions, but the trend continued with ''[[Film/TheHobbit The Hobbit]]'' film series (which also made a pretty penny).
26th Aug '16 6:30:52 AM Phoenixion
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* {{Anvilicious}}: In case you miss the deeper meaning in any particular part of the movie, there's usually a song to explain it to you. Or two. Or three. See the page quote for a good example.
* AssPull: Éowyn appears out of nowhere with no prior set up to bump off the Witch-King and then vanishes completely with only a brief appearance at the end.
* CultClassic: Almost in spite of itself.
* DesignatedHero: Aragorn. Apparently he was just off doing his own thing with nothing to do with the rest of the party, and doesn't even help in the Siege of Gondor as the Orcs were already retreating by the time he arrived. He's rude to Gandalf, sneering at him while taunting him over his reluctance to march on Mordor, a move motivated not to buy time for Frodo but because he thinks they have Sauron on the run. And despite doing nothing to help, almost getting his army killed and being a rude prick, he's still celebrated as the savior at the end. Very different from the more heroic Peter Jackson version, to be sure.
* EarWorm: ''[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdXQJS3Yv0Y Where There's A Whip There's a Way]]''. "I can't! I can't continue!" I'd rather be singin' a ''[[LampshadeHanging good old hobbit song]]'' myself...
* HilariousInHindsight:
--> '''Aragorn''': ''[[Film/TheDarkKnight Why so glum, wizard]]?''
** The orcs' VillainSong "[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdXQJS3Yv0Y Where There's a Whip, There's a Way]]" features the lyrics "We don't want to go to war today, but the lord of the land says nay nay nay!" Thirty-five years later, the rapper Silentó gave us the hit single "Watch Me (Whip/Nae Nae)."
* HoYay: Some. But with Frodo and Samwise, can you expect anything less?
** Samwise somehow manages to have this with the One Ring, of all things. "YOU! Ooo, I can feel you [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything throbbing with anticipation!]]"
* {{Narm}}:
** The entire film, even more so than the original Hobbit. Especially the songs. It's also hard to take the Witch-King seriously when he sounds like Mr. Slate from ''WesternAnimation/TheFlintstones''.
* NarmCharm:
** '''"[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=am-piARxy4U#t=2m23s BEHOLD! THE GARDENS OF MY DELIGHT!!]]"''' ''Aww...'' [[ThisIsYourBrainOnEvil Dark Lord Samwise]] is ''so cute''. Samwise's blackest desires of despotic tyranny involve turning the [[{{Mordor}} Plains of Gorgoroth]] into a lush garden paradise and Sauron's army of orcs into raccoons and tropical birds. Hardly the stuff to crush Middle Earth beneath his Hobbit-sized heel... which is the point - Samwise very much isn't Dark Lord material, and that's a major reason why he can resist the Ring's temptations.
** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdXQJS3Yv0Y Where There's a Whip, There's a Way]]. It's so hilariously catchy, it's hard not to enjoy it.
* NightmareFuel:
** The ram, Grond, looks like a wolf instead of a mechanical dragon, and actually seems to be alive as seen with its red saliva.
** The Witch-King's voice. Imagine watching this scene without any prior knowledge about how Skeletor sounds. [[VoiceOfTheLegion A harsh, mechanical grate grinding out in conjunction with a manic, high-pitched squeaky voice]]. The overall effect somewhere between Darth Vader and Judge Doom.
** There is also Samwise's fantasy with the ring that grows more intense and twisted by the second until he comes within a hairsbreadth of donning and being consumed by the Ring.
* UglyCute: The peaceful orcs in the "Leave Tomorrow till it Comes" sequence. One of them even smiles and waves to Sam and Frodo.
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** "One Ring to rule them all."



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26th Aug '16 6:26:43 AM Phoenixion
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18th Aug '16 2:15:15 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* TheyJustDidntCare: Despite the rich languages that Tolkien invented, and the number of people fluent in them even back in 1978 (as much as you can be fluent in them), composer Leonard Rosenman used made-up gibberish for the soundtrack's choral chants, with the occasional word like "Sauron" or "Mordor" thrown in.


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* TheyJustDidntCare: Despite the rich languages that Tolkien invented, and the number of people fluent in them even back in 1978 (as much as you can be fluent in them), composer Leonard Rosenman used made-up gibberish for the soundtrack's choral chants, with the occasional word like "Sauron" or "Mordor" thrown in.

17th Aug '16 5:32:53 AM TheWanderer
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** At first glance the Shire seems like it's being held up as a paragon of {{Arcadia}}, but there's also a fair bit of criticism of the Shire: the hobbits living there are quite small minded, ignorant, and provincial, which makes them easy marks for Saruman when he chooses to set up a tin pot dictatorship there. (With the most small minded, ignorant and provincial hobbits generally being the ones most likely to turn into Saruman's lackeys, ala Ted Sandyman.) When the Shire needs to be saved from Saruman, it's not the good old hobbits who are uncorrupted by foreign influences and the outside world who do the saving (or at least lead the charge) it's the ones who have experience in the outside world and have forever been changed by its influences and their experiences in it. When the Shire needs to be rebuilt after Saruman is defeated, it isn't made more beautiful and wonderful than it was before by going back to the way it was, ([[TheSameButMore or by trying to reject outside influence and become more Shirish or properly hobbitish]]) but because Sam uses the gift of Lady Galadriel to introduce new trees and plants that had never been present in the Shire before. The story even goes so far as to have Gildor, [[CantArgueWithElves an elf noble]], rebuke the isolationism of the hobbits, pointing out that other people lived in the Shire before hobbits came, and will again after the hobbits are gone, and that regardless of how much hobbits try to isolate themselves in the Shire they are still part of a larger world that affects them regardless of how much they try to ignore it or remain separate from it. In the divided and increasingly xenophobic and isolationist days of the early 21st century, there is certainly some food for thought and resonance there.

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** At first glance the Shire seems like it's being held up as a paragon of {{Arcadia}}, but there's also a fair bit of criticism of the Shire: the hobbits living there are quite small minded, ignorant, and provincial, which makes them easy marks for Saruman when he chooses to set up a tin pot dictatorship there. (With the most small minded, ignorant and provincial hobbits generally being the ones most likely to turn into Saruman's lackeys, ala Ted Sandyman.) When the Shire needs to be saved from Saruman, it's not the good old hobbits who are uncorrupted by foreign influences and the outside world who do the saving (or at least lead the charge) it's the ones who have experience in the outside world and have forever been changed by its influences and their experiences in it. When the Shire needs to be rebuilt after Saruman is defeated, it isn't made more beautiful and wonderful than it was before by going back to the way it was, ([[TheSameButMore or by trying to reject outside influence and become more Shirish or properly hobbitish]]) but because Sam uses the gift of Lady Galadriel to introduce new trees and plants that had never been present in the Shire before. The story even goes so far as to have Gildor, [[CantArgueWithElves an elf noble]], rebuke the isolationism of the hobbits, pointing out that other people lived in the Shire before hobbits came, and will again after the hobbits are gone, and that regardless of how however much hobbits try to isolate themselves in the Shire they are still part of a larger world that affects them regardless of how much they try to ignore it or remain separate from it. In the divided and increasingly xenophobic and isolationist days of the early 21st century, there is certainly some food for thought and resonance there.
7th Aug '16 4:18:38 PM Theriocephalus
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