* MarySueTopia
** The Edema Ruh are the greatest performers in the world. They treat each other like family, with no petty rivalries or distrust between groups. They're always kind and generous to fellow travelers. And they ''never'' commit crimes. The rose-colored view of the Edema Ruh might be due to Kvothe's personal biases as a fiercely proud Ruh himself.
** The Adem, an entire society of warrior-philosophers. They're ruled by their elite mercenary schools, whose martial arts secrets are several orders of magnitude greater than any other society's. Even their lowliest, stupidest members look like superheroes compared to other people. Their leaders are selected purely on merit. They have absolutely no sexual inhibitions, yet also have absolutely no venereal disease. Their language is far more subtle and elegant than any other. They all have iron-clad composure. Their food is delicious. Their medicinal skill rivals the greatest academic institutions. They are technologically advanced. They live in great wealth and comfort, but without needless frills or vanity. They seem to lack crime, corruption and poverty. They do have a number of oddities, but they are all well defended: While their culture believes that women are basically better than men, they are a meritocracy, so their culture is basically ''evidence'' of this conclusion. They don't believe that men contribute to pregnancy, but even Kvothe cannot provide evidence to the contrary that they cannot refute with sound logic. They disapprove of music played in public, but only because they cherish it so much.
* PlotTumor: The interminable interlude of faerie sex. Someone counted the pages. ''60''.

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* CrazyAwesome: Elodin, at times.
* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: Some of Kvothe's scenes with [[spoiler:Denna]] dive right into this.
* EarWorm: "Jackass, Jackass" is deliberately written to be one.
* HilariousInHindsight: Kote was a caravan guard [[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim until he took an arrow to the knee.]]
* [[MarySue Marty Stu]]: Kvothe may be considered to be an idealised character to the point where he approaches this trope (highly intelligent, charming, attractive, tough). On the other hand, he has certain flaws that even he himself doesn't seem to notice and that do play a meaningful role in the narrative. More to the point, he makes mistakes, bad ones, that result in genuine consequences for him, which should disqualify him right there. The general consensus seems to be that he's too well-written as a character to be a real [[MarySue Marty Stu]], possibly verging into a {{Deconstruction}} of one or of TheAce, and it's worth noting that he was on the "Likeable Sue" page while we had one.
** The nature of his flaws may suggest a JerkSue.
* NightmareFuel: The Chandrian. Any scene in which they appear or are mentioned is enough to freak the hell out of most people reading the book. Much of the fear surrounding the Chandrian (for in-universe characters and the readers both) is the fact that [[ShroudedInMyth we know hardly anything about them]]. No clear motives, no patterns, not even how many of them there are (some say one, others seven). Just "Lightning from a clear blue sky". And trying to find out details makes bad things happen.
* HilariousInHindsight: Kote was a caravan guard [[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim until he took an arrow to the knee.]]
* RomanticPlotTumor: Some readers think Kvothe's very slowly developing romance with Denna takes up too much time. In the second book, Kvothe acknowledges that he has to woo her extremely slowly, for fear of scaring her off.
* WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds: If we can trust the story Skarpi told Kvothe [[spoiler: Lanre/Haliax certainly fits.]] Depending on whether you think story-within-a story tropes count, it might fit even if it's not true.

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* HilariousInHindsight: Kote was a caravan guard [[TheElderScrollsVSkyrim until he took an arrow to the knee.]]
* UnfortunateImplications: The Adem people have so much sex that they are not aware that it (or the father) has anything to do with reproduction. The Adem leadership, however, probably knows the truth, and they would have to take drastic steps in order to maintain the illusion. This means that all women, and most horrifyingly, young women of newly reproductive age, would be coerced into participating in sex whether they want to or not; otherwise, people would notice that women who don't have sex never conceive. One hopes that the method of coercion they use is something like peer pressure rather than physical violence, but would that work for everyone? Kvothe spends a lot of time fighting the ten-year-old girl Celean, but if she had been a couple years older she could have been having sex with him, and what's worse, she could have been forced to. How would Kvothe have reacted to that?
** Actually, I think it is more the lines of they assume a young woman of around 13 or 14 simply will not be ready to have a child and will not want to. They are very clear that women don't just get pregnant randomly, they must want to have a child and get pregnant. So, it probably goes that if a woman doesn't get pregnant she simply did not really, really want to and was not ready (for instance, might be why they would assume a 13 year old who talked about wanting a child wouldn't get pregnant, she wouldn't be naturally and mentally ready).
** Also, over in WMG, there is a theory that because the Adem never breed outside the group, they might be descendents of one of the non-Fae and non-human groups from earlier in time. Therefore, they would be a third humanoid group but a different species which might mean that their pregnancy beliefs are true for them.

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