Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 16 (click to see context) from:
** In the "Vulnerability" episode from season two, Blake plays a bully during the music video. The directors laud him for looking like he's actually bullying and hurting Michael...which can sound pretty grim in light of the abuse allegations against Blake later in his career.
to:
** In the "Vulnerability" episode from season two, Blake plays a bully during the music video. The directors laud him for looking like he's actually bullying and hurting Michael...which can sound pretty grim in light of the abuse allegations against Blake later in his career. A similar thing happens in "Actability", where he plays an explicitly abusive boyfriend and again is lauded for his realistic performance.
** Mixed with funny since it led to some amusing moments, but Harper having to play Aylin's romantic partner during the "Romanticality" music video. It's clear that she's a gay woman pretending to be straight pretending to be gay and it's getting in her head, and while it was cut from the episode it did lead to her tearfully coming out onstage during her final performance that week.
** Mixed with funny since it led to some amusing moments, but Harper having to play Aylin's romantic partner during the "Romanticality" music video. It's clear that she's a gay woman pretending to be straight pretending to be gay and it's getting in her head, and while it was cut from the episode it did lead to her tearfully coming out onstage during her final performance that week.
Changed line(s) 18,19 (click to see context) from:
** Matheus and Alex getting paired up for a homework assignment is rife with this, specially a line from Samuel
--> '''Samuel:''' Matheus think of this, you're going to be gay for a day.
--> '''Samuel:''' Matheus think of this, you're going to be gay for a day.
to:
** Matheus and Alex getting paired up for a homework assignment is rife with this, specially a line from Samuel
Samuel.
--> '''Samuel:''' Matheus think of this, you're going to be gay for aday. day.
** Mixed with harsher due to the notes above, but a similar thing happened with Harper in season two. She was paired with Aylin for the "Romanticality" music video as a romantic couple, and during the rehearsal she declares "We're gonna practice until...we're gay!" She'd come out a few years after the season aired.
--> '''Samuel:''' Matheus think of this, you're going to be gay for a
** Mixed with harsher due to the notes above, but a similar thing happened with Harper in season two. She was paired with Aylin for the "Romanticality" music video as a romantic couple, and during the rehearsal she declares "We're gonna practice until...we're gay!" She'd come out a few years after the season aired.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
** In the "Vulnerability" episode from season two, Blake plays a bully during the music video. The directors laud him for looking like he's actually bullying and hurting Michael...which can sound pretty grim in light of the abuse allegations against Blake later in his career.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
* HarsherInHindsight: [[https://www.insider.com/the-glee-project-behind-the-scenes-cast-interviews-oral-history-2022-8 Interviews]] with former contestants from several years after the show cast two key moments involving Lindsay in a new light.
** First she got a lot of flack during "Vulnerability" week for claiming her flaw was being considered fake because she's "too pretty". But what went to air was a very chopped up confession about her own sexual assault and how it made her feel like she "wasn't a person--just a body and a nice face."
** The infamous kiss between Lindsay and Cameron was something Erik White pressured her to do, and she regretted it immediately, outright calling it manipulation.
-->'''Lindsay:''' I've never been so hated in my life. It's not easy for a 20-year-old to be called a sexual assailant, a sexual predator, an abuser — all because of the music-video kiss. Eleven years later, I still get hate mail sent to the theaters I work at and [=DMs=] telling me to kill myself. It's easy to think, "Well, you knew what you signed up for," but we were children. We all signed this contract but had no idea what that fine print actually meant.
** Those same interviews in general can give the whole show a less cheerful vibe. While most of the interviewees are willing to give praise where they can, they don't hold back on how hard the production was on them as children and that they really didn't know what they were signing up for.
-->'''Abraham:''' I don't know if I would've started acting if it weren't for ''The Glee Project''. I'm grateful, but there's a difference between gratitude and being indebted. \\
'''Lindsay:''' It's a dangerous thing to say, "Well, you wouldn't have the career you have." Yeah, maybe not. But I also wouldn't be as wounded as I am today.
** First she got a lot of flack during "Vulnerability" week for claiming her flaw was being considered fake because she's "too pretty". But what went to air was a very chopped up confession about her own sexual assault and how it made her feel like she "wasn't a person--just a body and a nice face."
** The infamous kiss between Lindsay and Cameron was something Erik White pressured her to do, and she regretted it immediately, outright calling it manipulation.
-->'''Lindsay:''' I've never been so hated in my life. It's not easy for a 20-year-old to be called a sexual assailant, a sexual predator, an abuser — all because of the music-video kiss. Eleven years later, I still get hate mail sent to the theaters I work at and [=DMs=] telling me to kill myself. It's easy to think, "Well, you knew what you signed up for," but we were children. We all signed this contract but had no idea what that fine print actually meant.
** Those same interviews in general can give the whole show a less cheerful vibe. While most of the interviewees are willing to give praise where they can, they don't hold back on how hard the production was on them as children and that they really didn't know what they were signing up for.
-->'''Abraham:''' I don't know if I would've started acting if it weren't for ''The Glee Project''. I'm grateful, but there's a difference between gratitude and being indebted. \\
'''Lindsay:''' It's a dangerous thing to say, "Well, you wouldn't have the career you have." Yeah, maybe not. But I also wouldn't be as wounded as I am today.
Changed line(s) 17,18 (click to see context) from:
-l'''Zach''': Wha...I...yes.
* NarmCharm: Blake's poem in the Season 2 finale.
* NarmCharm: Blake's poem in the Season 2 finale.
to:
*
* {{Narm}}: Blake's poem in the Season 2
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Deleted line(s) 9,11 (click to see context) :
* HarsherInHindsight: As the years have gone on, many contestants have spoken out about how they were treated on the show and manipulated by producers - especially the season 1 cast.
** The infamous kiss between Lindsay and Cameron was something Erik White pressured her to do and she regretted immediately, outright calling it manipulation in later interviews.
** Cameron himself was often mocked for "auditioning for a show where teens kiss and not wanting to kiss anyone". While there is something to say about not being familiar with the show, it still doesn't excuse production for surprising him with the Lindsay kiss and then, after he stressed his discomfort because he was already in a relationship, still trying to goad him into kissing Hannah in a later shoot.
** The infamous kiss between Lindsay and Cameron was something Erik White pressured her to do and she regretted immediately, outright calling it manipulation in later interviews.
** Cameron himself was often mocked for "auditioning for a show where teens kiss and not wanting to kiss anyone". While there is something to say about not being familiar with the show, it still doesn't excuse production for surprising him with the Lindsay kiss and then, after he stressed his discomfort because he was already in a relationship, still trying to goad him into kissing Hannah in a later shoot.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 17,20 (click to see context) from:
** Damian and Cameron, who hug constantly and are apparently moving in together.
* MemeticMutation: Whenever a rather extremely popular contestant is eliminated, fans tend to react with a gif of a clip from the first season.
-->'''Ryan''': Am I wrong?
-->'''Zach''': Wha...I...yes.
* MemeticMutation: Whenever a rather extremely popular contestant is eliminated, fans tend to react with a gif of a clip from the first season.
-->'''Ryan''': Am I wrong?
-->'''Zach''': Wha...I...yes.
to:
** Damian and Cameron, who hug hugged constantly and are apparently moving moved in together.
together for a time after the show.
* MemeticMutation: Whenever arather extremely popular contestant is eliminated, fans tend to react with a gif of a clip from the first season.
-->'''Ryan''': Am Iwrong?
-->'''Zach''':wrong?\\
-l'''Zach''': Wha...I...yes.
* MemeticMutation: Whenever a
-->'''Ryan''': Am I
-->'''Zach''':
-l'''Zach''': Wha...I...yes.
Changed line(s) 25 (click to see context) from:
** Season 2 had Chaylin/Charlin (Charlie/Aylin), Michellie (Michael/Nellie), Blichael (Blake/Michael), Blanna (Blake/Harper), and Shaylin (Harper/Aylin)[[note]]Harper Grae went by her birth name Shanna Henderson during the show[[/note]].
to:
** Season 2 had Chaylin/Charlin (Charlie/Aylin), Michellie (Michael/Nellie), Blellie (Blake/Nellie), Blichael (Blake/Michael), Blanna (Blake/Harper), and Shaylin (Harper/Aylin)[[note]]Harper Grae went by her birth name Shanna Henderson during the show[[/note]].
Changed line(s) 32 (click to see context) from:
* RetroactiveRecognition: Abraham is Kenji from {{Series/TheBoys}}
to:
* RetroactiveRecognition: Abraham is Kenji from {{Series/TheBoys}}''Series/TheBoys''
Changed line(s) 38 (click to see context) from:
** Marissa as eliminated her first time in the bottom (the same week she had one her first homework assignment), which came as an icy shock to fans who saw Marissa as the front runner.
to:
** Marissa as was eliminated her first time in the bottom (the same week she had one won her first homework assignment), which came as an icy shock to fans who saw Marissa as the front runner.
Changed line(s) 41 (click to see context) from:
** Harper was a front runner for most of her season, having never placed once in the bottom and only coming close once. Then she faltered in "Romanticality" (another week where there were several more obvious choices) and was eliminated to the shock of many.
to:
** Harper was a front runner for most of her season, having never placed once in the bottom and only coming close once. Then she faltered in "Romanticality" (another week where there were several more obvious choices) and was eliminated to the shock of many.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 3 (click to see context) from:
* EliminationHoudini: Many people feel this way about Alex, who has been in the bottom three more than any other character (four weeks in a row and counting), and complain that his CampGay diva personality and vocal range [[AuthorAppeal appeal]] to Ryan the most.
to:
* EliminationHoudini: EliminationHoudini:
** Many peoplefeel felt this way about Alex, who has been was in the bottom three more than any other character (four weeks in a row and counting), row), and complain that his CampGay diva personality and vocal range are [[AuthorAppeal appeal]] to the only reason]] Ryan the most. kept them around.
** Many people
Changed line(s) 5,6 (click to see context) from:
** In Season 2 Michael and Lily have been getting a lot of flack for outlasting generally more popular contenders Nellie, Abraham, and Shanna. Especially because Michael was told SEVERAL times that he deserved to be eliminated, but they were going to give him another chance.
*** And then there's Tyler who was in the bottom 3, three or four times before finally getting eliminated. And seemed to only stay on as long as he because he could be "a role model to kids like him"
*** And then there's Tyler who was in the bottom 3, three or four times before finally getting eliminated. And seemed to only stay on as long as he because he could be "a role model to kids like him"
to:
** In Season 2 Michael and Lily have been getting got a lot of flack for outlasting generally more popular contenders Nellie, Abraham, and Shanna. Especially because Harper. Michael was told SEVERAL ''several'' times that he deserved to be eliminated, but they were going to give still gave him another chance.
*** And then there'smore chances.
** Tyler who was in the bottom3, three or four times before finally getting eliminated. And eliminated, and seemed to only stay on as long as he because he Ryan said they could be "a a role model to kids like him"model.
*** And then there's
** Tyler who was in the bottom
Changed line(s) 20 (click to see context) from:
* NarmCharm : Blake's poem in the Season 2 finale.
to:
* NarmCharm : NarmCharm: Blake's poem in the Season 2 finale.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
** Matheus and Alex getting paired up for a homework assignment is rife with this, specially a line from Samuel
--> '''Samuel:''' Matheus think of this, you're going to be gay for a day.
--> '''Samuel:''' Matheus think of this, you're going to be gay for a day.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
ZCE
Deleted line(s) 39 (click to see context) :
* TastesLikeDiabetes: Ellis's first music video performance.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* ShockingElimination: Fans are ''still'' unhappy with the eliminations of Marissa and Hannah in season 1, and Nellie and Harper in season 2, as all four had been both judge and fan favorites.
** Marissa as eliminated her first time in the bottom (the same week she had one her first homework assignment), which came as an icy shock to fans who saw Marissa as the front runner.
** Hannah was eliminated her second time in the bottom, which was shocking considering multiple other contenders had been singled out as being weak actors while Hannah had ''won'' the homework assignment that week (just like Marissa had in hers).
** Despite her discomfort at being pressured to be more sexual, Nellie was steadily growing and getting better during her time on the show, and her cover of [[Music/{{Beyonce}} "If I Were A Boy"]] is often cited as one of ''the'' best songs to come out of this show. She was still eliminated the next week because, once again, she couldn't act sexually enough.
** Harper was a front runner for most of her season, having never placed once in the bottom and only coming close once. Then she faltered in "Romanticality" (another week where there were several more obvious choices) and was eliminated to the shock of many.
** Marissa as eliminated her first time in the bottom (the same week she had one her first homework assignment), which came as an icy shock to fans who saw Marissa as the front runner.
** Hannah was eliminated her second time in the bottom, which was shocking considering multiple other contenders had been singled out as being weak actors while Hannah had ''won'' the homework assignment that week (just like Marissa had in hers).
** Despite her discomfort at being pressured to be more sexual, Nellie was steadily growing and getting better during her time on the show, and her cover of [[Music/{{Beyonce}} "If I Were A Boy"]] is often cited as one of ''the'' best songs to come out of this show. She was still eliminated the next week because, once again, she couldn't act sexually enough.
** Harper was a front runner for most of her season, having never placed once in the bottom and only coming close once. Then she faltered in "Romanticality" (another week where there were several more obvious choices) and was eliminated to the shock of many.
Added DiffLines:
* UnexpectedCharacter: Not for this show, but Marissa appeared on an episode of ''Catfish'', of all things, directly because of her elimination. Fans were so incensed over her getting booted that several Facebook pages were created demanding she be put on Glee, which snowballed into a fan catfishing people as her.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Not sure if the Harsher in Hindsight entries should be that or Vindicated by History...or both.
Changed line(s) 7 (click to see context) from:
* EnsembleDarkhorse: Zach Woodlee.
to:
* EnsembleDarkhorse: Zach Woodlee.Woodlee, the choreographer, for being the nicest judge and even calling Ryan Murphy out a few times.
* HarsherInHindsight: As the years have gone on, many contestants have spoken out about how they were treated on the show and manipulated by producers - especially the season 1 cast.
** The infamous kiss between Lindsay and Cameron was something Erik White pressured her to do and she regretted immediately, outright calling it manipulation in later interviews.
** Cameron himself was often mocked for "auditioning for a show where teens kiss and not wanting to kiss anyone". While there is something to say about not being familiar with the show, it still doesn't excuse production for surprising him with the Lindsay kiss and then, after he stressed his discomfort because he was already in a relationship, still trying to goad him into kissing Hannah in a later shoot.
* HilariousInHindsight: The Ho Yay entry below for Damian and Matheus is this now that Matheus is openly queer.
* HarsherInHindsight: As the years have gone on, many contestants have spoken out about how they were treated on the show and manipulated by producers - especially the season 1 cast.
** The infamous kiss between Lindsay and Cameron was something Erik White pressured her to do and she regretted immediately, outright calling it manipulation in later interviews.
** Cameron himself was often mocked for "auditioning for a show where teens kiss and not wanting to kiss anyone". While there is something to say about not being familiar with the show, it still doesn't excuse production for surprising him with the Lindsay kiss and then, after he stressed his discomfort because he was already in a relationship, still trying to goad him into kissing Hannah in a later shoot.
* HilariousInHindsight: The Ho Yay entry below for Damian and Matheus is this now that Matheus is openly queer.
* PortmanteauCoupleName: Invoked by guest judge Darren Criss in "Pairability" with Matalex (Matheus and Alex), leading to the contenders coming up with their own couple names some of which are also now used by fans when ActorShipping.
** Season 1 examples include Dameron (the bromance of Cameron and Damian and the most known shipname to come from the show), Damsay (Damian/Lindsay), Marissam (Marissa/Samuel), Camsay (Cameron/Lindsay), Dannah (Damian/Hannah), Samsay (Samuel/Lindsay), and Camrissa (Cameron/Marissa).
** Season 2 had Chaylin/Charlin (Charlie/Aylin), Michellie (Michael/Nellie), Blichael (Blake/Michael), Blanna (Blake/Harper), and Shaylin (Harper/Aylin)[[note]]Harper Grae went by her birth name Shanna Henderson during the show[[/note]].
* RealPersonShipping: Any shipping involved is this by default since it's, you know, a reality show.
** Since Hannah herself expressed interest in Damian during the show, Dannah started gaining steam since the airing of the Sexuality episode.
** Samsay became popular after "Glee-ality" and their epic running-jump hug.
** A huge number of viewers for season 2 hoped that Michael and Nellie would get together, and those who didn't probably hoped she'd be paired with Blake.
** Charlie and Aylin had an actual romance on the show, so naturally a lot of viewers supported it.
** Just look at the PortmanteauCoupleName entry above; pretty much any combination of those was supported by some fans at one point or another.
** Season 1 examples include Dameron (the bromance of Cameron and Damian and the most known shipname to come from the show), Damsay (Damian/Lindsay), Marissam (Marissa/Samuel), Camsay (Cameron/Lindsay), Dannah (Damian/Hannah), Samsay (Samuel/Lindsay), and Camrissa (Cameron/Marissa).
** Season 2 had Chaylin/Charlin (Charlie/Aylin), Michellie (Michael/Nellie), Blichael (Blake/Michael), Blanna (Blake/Harper), and Shaylin (Harper/Aylin)[[note]]Harper Grae went by her birth name Shanna Henderson during the show[[/note]].
* RealPersonShipping: Any shipping involved is this by default since it's, you know, a reality show.
** Since Hannah herself expressed interest in Damian during the show, Dannah started gaining steam since the airing of the Sexuality episode.
** Samsay became popular after "Glee-ality" and their epic running-jump hug.
** A huge number of viewers for season 2 hoped that Michael and Nellie would get together, and those who didn't probably hoped she'd be paired with Blake.
** Charlie and Aylin had an actual romance on the show, so naturally a lot of viewers supported it.
** Just look at the PortmanteauCoupleName entry above; pretty much any combination of those was supported by some fans at one point or another.
Changed line(s) 17,20 (click to see context) from:
* TheScrappy: Lindsay seems a little bit of one. It doesn't help that she seems QUITE similar to Rachel[=/=]Creator/LeaMichele.
** Emily, who seemed like an AttentionWhore with an ItsAllAboutMe Attitude.
** A lot of people seem to find Alex quite annoying.
** Can apply to any of the contestants depending on who you ask.
** Emily, who seemed like an AttentionWhore with an ItsAllAboutMe Attitude.
** A lot of people seem to find Alex quite annoying.
** Can apply to any of the contestants depending on who you ask.
to:
* TheScrappy: Lindsay seems a little bit of one. It doesn't help that she seems QUITE similar to Rachel[=/=]Creator/LeaMichele.
** Emily, who seemed like an AttentionWhore with an ItsAllAboutMe Attitude.
** A lot of people seem to find Alex quite annoying.
** CanCould naturally apply to any of the contestants depending on who you ask.ask.
** Lindsay became one due to her similarities to Rachel[=/=]Creator/LeaMichele and perceived arrogant attitude. While opinion of her has gotten better over time thanks to her opening up about how hard it was to be on the show, she unfortunately still receives hate mail from salty fans.
** Emily also got flack for her perceived ItsAllAboutMe Attitude.
** A lot of people found Alex annoying as well.
** Emily, who seemed like an AttentionWhore with an ItsAllAboutMe Attitude.
** A lot of people seem to find Alex quite annoying.
** Can
** Lindsay became one due to her similarities to Rachel[=/=]Creator/LeaMichele and perceived arrogant attitude. While opinion of her has gotten better over time thanks to her opening up about how hard it was to be on the show, she unfortunately still receives hate mail from salty fans.
** Emily also got flack for her perceived ItsAllAboutMe Attitude.
** A lot of people found Alex annoying as well.
Changed line(s) 23,28 (click to see context) from:
** Marissa changing her sign during the video shoot for "Mad World" from "flawed" to [[spoiler: "anorexic"]].
*** The entire "Mad World" [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIMNVHfYudE video]] in general. The shots of each contestant with their sign are just so visceral.
** Alex [[spoiler: breaking down during "vulnerability" week, telling Nikki about his deceased father]].
** Abraham crying during [[spoiler: Tyler's]] solo of "Keep Holding On".
* ViewerGenderConfusion: Many people have thought Alex was a girl when he sings due to his voice.
** Not helped by the fact that he looks amazing in drag, went on to play a trans character in the show, and seems fairly genderfluid these days.
*** The entire "Mad World" [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIMNVHfYudE video]] in general. The shots of each contestant with their sign are just so visceral.
** Alex [[spoiler: breaking down during "vulnerability" week, telling Nikki about his deceased father]].
** Abraham crying during [[spoiler: Tyler's]] solo of "Keep Holding On".
* ViewerGenderConfusion: Many people have thought Alex was a girl when he sings due to his voice.
** Not helped by the fact that he looks amazing in drag, went on to play a trans character in the show, and seems fairly genderfluid these days.
to:
** Marissa changing her sign during the video shoot for "Mad World" from "flawed" to [[spoiler: "anorexic"]].
***The entire "Mad World" [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIMNVHfYudE video]] video]], and "Vulnerability" week in general. The shots of each contestant with their sign are just so visceral.
** Alex *** Marissa changing her sign during the video shoot for "Mad World" from "flawed" to [[spoiler: "anorexic"]].
*** Alex breaking down during"vulnerability" "Vulnerability" week, telling Nikki about his deceased father]].
father.
*** Emily talking about being sexually harassed by music producers before coming on to the show.
*** A retroactive one is finding out that Lindsay's initial vulnerability was also about being sexually assaulted, but she was pressured to change it to feeling "fake" because of her pretty looks - and then Nikki and the other judges shamed her for not being Vulnerable enough.
** Abraham crying during[[spoiler: Tyler's]] Tyler's solo of "Keep Holding On".
** In some ways, Charlie's desperate plea to Ryan to give Aylin a chance by picking her as the winner, saying that she and what she represents could give hope to the Muslim community after years of bigotry. Happy tears because he's clearly passionate about it beyond Aylin being his showmance, and sad tears when she still doesn't win (or even get a cameo in the season like Ali did).
* ViewerGenderConfusion: Many people have thought Alex was a girl when he sings due to hisvoice.
**voice. Not helped by the fact that he looks amazing in drag, went on to play a trans character in the show, and seems fairly genderfluid these days.
***
*** Alex breaking down during
*** Emily talking about being sexually harassed by music producers before coming on to the show.
*** A retroactive one is finding out that Lindsay's initial vulnerability was also about being sexually assaulted, but she was pressured to change it to feeling "fake" because of her pretty looks - and then Nikki and the other judges shamed her for not being Vulnerable enough.
** Abraham crying during
** In some ways, Charlie's desperate plea to Ryan to give Aylin a chance by picking her as the winner, saying that she and what she represents could give hope to the Muslim community after years of bigotry. Happy tears because he's clearly passionate about it beyond Aylin being his showmance, and sad tears when she still doesn't win (or even get a cameo in the season like Ali did).
* ViewerGenderConfusion: Many people have thought Alex was a girl when he sings due to his
**
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
** By that same metric Damian applies as well, tying with Alex at 4 weeks in the bottom. However unlike Alex, Damian actually ''was'' eliminated but saved because Cameron decided to quit that same episode.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* RetroactiveRecognition: Abraham is Kenji from {{Series/TheBoys}}
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* {{Adorkable}}: Michael is really cute and sweet...and he ''loves'' calculus.
-->'''Michael''': Derivatives are ''awesome''.
-->'''Michael''': Derivatives are ''awesome''.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Cut trope. Can't tell if its replacement trope or any others are applicable.
Deleted line(s) 1 (click to see context) :
* BaseBreaker: All of them that lasted longer than a couple of episodes.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Changed line(s) 26 (click to see context) from:
* JustForFun/XMeetsY: ''Series/{{Glee}}'' meets ''Series/AmericasNextTopModel'' meets ''Theatre/AChorusLine''.
to:
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 25 (click to see context) from:
** Not helped by the fact that he looks amazing in drag, went on to play a trans character in the show, and seems fairly genderfluid these days.
to:
** Not helped by the fact that he looks amazing in drag, went on to play a trans character in the show, and seems fairly genderfluid these days.days.
* JustForFun/XMeetsY: ''Series/{{Glee}}'' meets ''Series/AmericasNextTopModel'' meets ''Theatre/AChorusLine''.
* JustForFun/XMeetsY: ''Series/{{Glee}}'' meets ''Series/AmericasNextTopModel'' meets ''Theatre/AChorusLine''.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Deleted line(s) 18 (click to see context) :
** It also carried over to the series. The characters they play aren't exactly well liked.
Changed line(s) 26 (click to see context) from:
** Not helped by the fact that he looks amazing in drag.
to:
** Not helped by the fact that he looks amazing in drag.drag, went on to play a trans character in the show, and seems fairly genderfluid these days.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 14 (click to see context) from:
* TheScrappy: Lindsay seems a little bit of one. It doesn't help that she seems QUITE similar to Rachel[=/=]LeaMichele.
to:
* TheScrappy: Lindsay seems a little bit of one. It doesn't help that she seems QUITE similar to Rachel[=/=]LeaMichele.Rachel[=/=]Creator/LeaMichele.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
unfortunate implications need citations
Deleted line(s) 25,28 (click to see context) :
* UnfortunateImplications: Compare the current status of the Season 1 winners' characters on ''Series/{{Glee}}''. Despite Damian and Samuel being crowned the winners of the first season, and Alex being crowned a runner-up, Alex's character is the only one of the three whose character made it past one season, as Damian's and Samuel's characters were PutOnABus immediately after their contracted arc to introduce new characters. What may be worse is the fact that Lindsay, a fellow runner-up of Season 1, literally got less than ten minutes of screen time in total compared to Alex. These facts, combined with Ryan's obvious favoritism towards Alex in the first season, does not help opinions that Ryan unfairly favors actors/characters with whom he can most relate to and will put more effort in writing for those characters in the show proper. Blake's case when he won Season 2 turned out better for him; his character Ryder is still on the show and shares the same status as Alex in the show as a relatively static character, though it probably helps that he's actually dating one of the other cast members in real life.
** As seen also in Season 2. Maxfield Camp, a Nashville based actor turned recent country artist, was the first eliminated by Ryan and the other judges. He was sent home for Ryan Murphy's own words, "Not being interesting enough". The elimination came down to Maxfield and Tyler. Tyler was a mid-transition transgender person. Tyler's vocal range changed between auditions and the competition. Tyler could barely carry a tune in his new vocal range. He was then eliminated the next week. Maxfield has went on to have a relatively successful cameo gig in ABC's Nashville and several Country music videos. He is probably the most successful Glee Project contender post elimination with the exception of Michael and the contestants that have appeared on Glee proper in some form.
** Then there is fact that all the actual winners have been straight pretty white boys despite all the boasting about Glee championing the underdog.
** As seen also in Season 2. Maxfield Camp, a Nashville based actor turned recent country artist, was the first eliminated by Ryan and the other judges. He was sent home for Ryan Murphy's own words, "Not being interesting enough". The elimination came down to Maxfield and Tyler. Tyler was a mid-transition transgender person. Tyler's vocal range changed between auditions and the competition. Tyler could barely carry a tune in his new vocal range. He was then eliminated the next week. Maxfield has went on to have a relatively successful cameo gig in ABC's Nashville and several Country music videos. He is probably the most successful Glee Project contender post elimination with the exception of Michael and the contestants that have appeared on Glee proper in some form.
** Then there is fact that all the actual winners have been straight pretty white boys despite all the boasting about Glee championing the underdog.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 25 (click to see context) from:
* UnfortunateImplications: Compare the current status of the Season 1 winners' characters on ''Series/{{Glee}}''. Despite Damian and Samuel being crowned the winners of the first season, and Alex being crowned a runner-up, Alex's character is the only one of the three whose character made it past one season, as Damian's and Samuel's characters were PutOnABus immediately after their contracted arc to introduce new characters. What may be worse is the fact that Lindsay, a fellow runner-up of Season 1, literally got less than ten minutes of screen time in total compared to Alex. These facts, combined with Ryan's obvious favoritism towards Alex in the first season, does not help opinions that Ryan unfairly favors actors/characters with whom he can most relate to and will put more effort in writing for those characters in the show proper. Blake's case when he won Season 2 turned out better for him; his character Ryder is still on the show and shares the same status as Alex in the show as a relatively static character, though it probably helps that he's actually dating one of the other cast members in real life. **As seen also in Season 2. Maxfield Camp, a Nashville based actor turned recent country artist, was the first eliminated by Ryan and the other judges. He was sent home for Ryan Murphy's own words, "Not being interesting enough". The elimination came down to Maxfield and Tyler. Tyler was a mid-transition transgender person. Tyler's vocal range changed between auditions and the competition. Tyler could barely carry a tune in his new vocal range. He was then eliminated the next week. Maxfield has went on to have a relatively successful cameo gig in ABC's Nashville and several Country music videos. He is probably the most successful Glee Project contender post elimination with the exception of Michael and the contestants that have appeared on Glee proper in some form.
to:
* UnfortunateImplications: Compare the current status of the Season 1 winners' characters on ''Series/{{Glee}}''. Despite Damian and Samuel being crowned the winners of the first season, and Alex being crowned a runner-up, Alex's character is the only one of the three whose character made it past one season, as Damian's and Samuel's characters were PutOnABus immediately after their contracted arc to introduce new characters. What may be worse is the fact that Lindsay, a fellow runner-up of Season 1, literally got less than ten minutes of screen time in total compared to Alex. These facts, combined with Ryan's obvious favoritism towards Alex in the first season, does not help opinions that Ryan unfairly favors actors/characters with whom he can most relate to and will put more effort in writing for those characters in the show proper. Blake's case when he won Season 2 turned out better for him; his character Ryder is still on the show and shares the same status as Alex in the show as a relatively static character, though it probably helps that he's actually dating one of the other cast members in real life. life.
**As seen also in Season 2. Maxfield Camp, a Nashville based actor turned recent country artist, was the first eliminated by Ryan and the other judges. He was sent home for Ryan Murphy's own words, "Not being interesting enough". The elimination came down to Maxfield and Tyler. Tyler was a mid-transition transgender person. Tyler's vocal range changed between auditions and the competition. Tyler could barely carry a tune in his new vocal range. He was then eliminated the next week. Maxfield has went on to have a relatively successful cameo gig in ABC's Nashville and several Country music videos. He is probably the most successful Glee Project contender post elimination with the exception of Michael and the contestants that have appeared on Glee proper in some form.
**As seen also in Season 2. Maxfield Camp, a Nashville based actor turned recent country artist, was the first eliminated by Ryan and the other judges. He was sent home for Ryan Murphy's own words, "Not being interesting enough". The elimination came down to Maxfield and Tyler. Tyler was a mid-transition transgender person. Tyler's vocal range changed between auditions and the competition. Tyler could barely carry a tune in his new vocal range. He was then eliminated the next week. Maxfield has went on to have a relatively successful cameo gig in ABC's Nashville and several Country music videos. He is probably the most successful Glee Project contender post elimination with the exception of Michael and the contestants that have appeared on Glee proper in some form.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 26 (click to see context) from:
to:
**Then there is fact that all the actual winners have been straight pretty white boys despite all the boasting about Glee championing the underdog.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 1 (click to see context) from:
* BaseBreaker: Aylin, due to her flirty nature.
to:
* BaseBreaker: Aylin, due to her flirty nature.All of them that lasted longer than a couple of episodes.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 25,26 (click to see context) from:
* UnfortunateImplications: Compare the current status of the Season 1 winners' characters on ''Series/{{Glee}}''. Despite Damian and Samuel being crowned the winners of the first season, and Alex being crowned a runner-up, Alex's character is the only one of the three whose character made it past one season, as Damian's and Samuel's characters were PutOnABus immediately after their contracted arc to introduce new characters. What may be worse is the fact that Lindsay, a fellow runner-up of Season 1, literally got less than ten minutes of screen time in total compared to Alex. These facts, combined with Ryan's obvious favoritism towards Alex in the first season, does not help opinions that Ryan unfairly favors actors/characters with whom he can most relate to and will put more effort in writing for those characters in the show proper. Blake's case when he won Season 2 turned out better for him; his character Ryder is still on the show and shares the same status as Alex in the show as a relatively static character, though it probably helps that he's actually dating one of the other cast members in real life. <p>As seen also in Season 2. Maxfield Camp, a Nashville based actor turned recent country artist, was the first eliminated by Ryan and the other judges. He was sent home for Ryan Murphy's own words, "Not being interesting enough". The elimination came down to Maxfield and Tyler. Tyler was a mid-transition transgender person. Tyler's vocal range changed between auditions and the competition. Tyler could barely carry a tune in his new vocal range. He was then eliminated the next week. Maxfield has went on to have a relatively successful cameo gig in ABC's Nashville and several Country music videos. He is probably the most successful Glee Project contender post elimination with the exception of Michael and the contestants that have appeared on Glee proper in some form.<p>
to:
* UnfortunateImplications: Compare the current status of the Season 1 winners' characters on ''Series/{{Glee}}''. Despite Damian and Samuel being crowned the winners of the first season, and Alex being crowned a runner-up, Alex's character is the only one of the three whose character made it past one season, as Damian's and Samuel's characters were PutOnABus immediately after their contracted arc to introduce new characters. What may be worse is the fact that Lindsay, a fellow runner-up of Season 1, literally got less than ten minutes of screen time in total compared to Alex. These facts, combined with Ryan's obvious favoritism towards Alex in the first season, does not help opinions that Ryan unfairly favors actors/characters with whom he can most relate to and will put more effort in writing for those characters in the show proper. Blake's case when he won Season 2 turned out better for him; his character Ryder is still on the show and shares the same status as Alex in the show as a relatively static character, though it probably helps that he's actually dating one of the other cast members in real life. <p>As **As seen also in Season 2. 2. Maxfield Camp, a Nashville based actor turned recent country artist, was the first eliminated by Ryan and the other judges. judges. He was sent home for Ryan Murphy's own words, "Not being interesting enough". enough". The elimination came down to Maxfield and Tyler. Tyler. Tyler was a mid-transition transgender person. person. Tyler's vocal range changed between auditions and the competition. competition. Tyler could barely carry a tune in his new vocal range. range. He was then eliminated the next week. week. Maxfield has went on to have a relatively successful cameo gig in ABC's Nashville and several Country music videos. videos. He is probably the most successful Glee Project contender post elimination with the exception of Michael and the contestants that have appeared on Glee proper in some form.<p>
form.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 25,28 (click to see context) from:
* UnfortunateImplications: Compare the current status of the Season 1 winners' characters on ''Series/{{Glee}}''. Despite Damian and Samuel being crowned the winners of the first season, and Alex being crowned a runner-up, Alex's character is the only one of the three whose character made it past one season, as Damian's and Samuel's characters were PutOnABus immediately after their contracted arc to introduce new characters. What may be worse is the fact that Lindsay, a fellow runner-up of Season 1, literally got less than ten minutes of screen time in total compared to Alex. These facts, combined with Ryan's obvious favoritism towards Alex in the first season, does not help opinions that Ryan unfairly favors actors/characters with whom he can most relate to and will put more effort in writing for those characters in the show proper. Blake's case when he won Season 2 turned out better for him; his character Ryder is still on the show and shares the same status as Alex in the show as a relatively static character, though it probably helps that he's actually dating one of the other cast members in real life.
As seen also in Season 2. Maxfield Camp, a Nashville based actor turned recent country artist, was the first eliminated by Ryan and the other judges. He was sent home for Ryan Murphy's own words, "Not being interesting enough". The elimination came down to Maxfield and Tyler. Tyler was a mid-transition transgender person. Tyler's vocal range changed between auditions and the competition. Tyler could barely carry a tune in his new vocal range. He was then eliminated the next week. Maxfield has went on to have a relatively successful cameo gig in ABC's Nashville and several Country music videos. He is probably the most successful Glee Project contender post elimination with the exception of Michael and the contestants that have appeared on Glee proper in some form.
As seen also in Season 2. Maxfield Camp, a Nashville based actor turned recent country artist, was the first eliminated by Ryan and the other judges. He was sent home for Ryan Murphy's own words, "Not being interesting enough". The elimination came down to Maxfield and Tyler. Tyler was a mid-transition transgender person. Tyler's vocal range changed between auditions and the competition. Tyler could barely carry a tune in his new vocal range. He was then eliminated the next week. Maxfield has went on to have a relatively successful cameo gig in ABC's Nashville and several Country music videos. He is probably the most successful Glee Project contender post elimination with the exception of Michael and the contestants that have appeared on Glee proper in some form.
to:
* UnfortunateImplications: Compare the current status of the Season 1 winners' characters on ''Series/{{Glee}}''. Despite Damian and Samuel being crowned the winners of the first season, and Alex being crowned a runner-up, Alex's character is the only one of the three whose character made it past one season, as Damian's and Samuel's characters were PutOnABus immediately after their contracted arc to introduce new characters. What may be worse is the fact that Lindsay, a fellow runner-up of Season 1, literally got less than ten minutes of screen time in total compared to Alex. These facts, combined with Ryan's obvious favoritism towards Alex in the first season, does not help opinions that Ryan unfairly favors actors/characters with whom he can most relate to and will put more effort in writing for those characters in the show proper. Blake's case when he won Season 2 turned out better for him; his character Ryder is still on the show and shares the same status as Alex in the show as a relatively static character, though it probably helps that he's actually dating one of the other cast members in real life.
Aslife. <p>As seen also in Season 2. 2. Maxfield Camp, a Nashville based actor turned recent country artist, was the first eliminated by Ryan and the other judges. judges. He was sent home for Ryan Murphy's own words, "Not being interesting enough". enough". The elimination came down to Maxfield and Tyler. Tyler. Tyler was a mid-transition transgender person. person. Tyler's vocal range changed between auditions and the competition. competition. Tyler could barely carry a tune in his new vocal range. range. He was then eliminated the next week. week. Maxfield has went on to have a relatively successful cameo gig in ABC's Nashville and several Country music videos. videos. He is probably the most successful Glee Project contender post elimination with the exception of Michael and the contestants that have appeared on Glee proper in some form.
form.<p>
As
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
As seen also in Season 2. Maxfield Camp, a Nashville based actor turned recent country artist, was the first eliminated by Ryan and the other judges. He was sent home for Ryan Murphy's own words, "Not being interesting enough". The elimination came down to Maxfield and Tyler. Tyler was a mid-transition transgender person. Tyler's vocal range changed between auditions and the competition. Tyler could barely carry a tune in his new vocal range. He was then eliminated the next week. Maxfield has went on to have a relatively successful cameo gig in ABC's Nashville and several Country music videos. He is probably the most successful Glee Project contender post elimination with the exception of Michael and the contestants that have appeared on Glee proper in some form.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Deleted line(s) 6,8 (click to see context) :
* FanDumb: It may be because of the show's target demographic or the fact that it is a reality show in which the contenders are [[ManipulativeEditing made to look a certain way]], but fan dislike for some contenders has garnered numerous, and at times quite vicious, online attacks against them prompting mentor Robert Ulrich to speak up against it.
** Lindsay and Alex have certainly received the short end of the stick; Cameron, Matheus, and Marissa fans continually blame Alex for their favourite's departure despite the decision being Ryan Murphy's, and Lindsay gets hate from Cameron fans for apparently forcefully kissing him despite the fact that it was directed and generally for being presented as an attention grabbing, fake, bitch.
*** Honestly, most fans with only one favorite will go out of their way to flame other contenders and praise their own resulting in fan wars.
** Lindsay and Alex have certainly received the short end of the stick; Cameron, Matheus, and Marissa fans continually blame Alex for their favourite's departure despite the decision being Ryan Murphy's, and Lindsay gets hate from Cameron fans for apparently forcefully kissing him despite the fact that it was directed and generally for being presented as an attention grabbing, fake, bitch.
*** Honestly, most fans with only one favorite will go out of their way to flame other contenders and praise their own resulting in fan wars.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* NightmareFuel : The one-take gym class from hell in Season 2's "Tenacity episode." Anyone who hated gym in high school will relate. Thirty-four takes!