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* HilariousInHindsight: In order to justify her claiming the ownership of the school, Lisa cited "The Republic of Minerva" as an example of a privately-owned city that functioned, when in reality the founders of this micronation were driven off twice by Tonga - the actual owners of the reef before they could really build anything that can be considered a city.
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** Jill is meant to be considered naive and wrong, but her willingness to take in orphans, and trying to teach younger children to share and cooperate, and keeping them out of harm's way makes her look more mature and sensible, especially for readers that don't by the Objectivist underpinnings.
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** Jill is meant to be considered naive and wrong, but her willingness to take in orphans, and trying to teach younger children to share and cooperate, and keeping them out of harm's way makes her look more mature and sensible, especially for readers that don't by buy the Objectivist underpinnings.
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** Given some of Lisa's more selfish actions, refusal to delegate/share power, and how she found scavenging fun, she comes off as borderline sociopathic to some readers.
** Jill is meant to be considered naive and wrong, but her willingness to take in orphans, and trying to teach younger children to share and cooperate, and keeping them out of harm's way makes her look more mature and sensible, especially for readers that don't by the Objectivist underpinnings.
** Jill is meant to be considered naive and wrong, but her willingness to take in orphans, and trying to teach younger children to share and cooperate, and keeping them out of harm's way makes her look more mature and sensible, especially for readers that don't by the Objectivist underpinnings.
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* {{Anvilicious}} - Simply due to being a book where the message eclipses the story. Though whether it does this depends on your point of view.
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* {{Anvilicious}} - Simply due to being a book where the message eclipses the story. Though whether it does this or not depends on your point of view.
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* DesignatedVillain: Jill. Her ideas could be considered reasonable given the characters' situation, but the story treats her as stupid for not subscribing to Lisa's capitalist philosophy.
* StrawmanHasAPoint: Jill's suggestion of collective ownership of resources might seem like a good decision in a world where society has collapsed, but her ideas are shot down in favor of the author's Objectivist preaching.
* DesignatedVillain: Jill. Her ideas could be considered reasonable given the characters' situation, but the story treats her as stupid for not subscribing to Lisa's capitalist philosophy.
* StrawmanHasAPoint: Jill's suggestion of collective ownership of resources might seem like a good decision in a world where society has collapsed, but her ideas are shot down in favor of the author's Objectivist preaching.
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* {{Anvilicious}} - Simply due to being a book where the message eclipses the story. Though whether it does this depends on your point of view, obviously.
* DesignatedVillain: Jill. Her ideas could be considered reasonable given the characters' situation, but the story treats her as stupid for not subscribing to Lisa's capitalist philosophy.
* StrawmanHasAPoint: Jill's suggestion of collective ownership of resources might seem like a good decision in a world where society has collapsed, but her ideas are shot down in favor of the author's Objectivist preaching.
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* DesignatedVillain: Jill. Her ideas could be considered reasonable given the characters' situation, but the story treats her as stupid for not subscribing to Lisa's capitalist philosophy.
* StrawmanHasAPoint: Jill's suggestion of collective ownership of resources might seem like a good decision in a world where society has collapsed, but her ideas are shot down in favor of the author's Objectivist preaching.
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* StrawmanHasAPoint: Jill's suggestion of collective ownership of resources seems like a good decision in a world where society has collapsed, but her ideas are shot down in favor of the author's Objectivist preaching.
* DesignatedVillain: Jill. Her ideas are actually quite reasonable given the characters' situation, but the story treats her as stupid for not subscribing to Lisa's capitalist philosophy.
* StrawmanHasAPoint: Jill's suggestion of collective ownership of resources seems like a good decision in a world where society has collapsed, but her ideas are shot down in favor of the author's Objectivist preaching.
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story. Though this depends on your point of view, obviously.
* DesignatedVillain: Jill. Her ideasare actually quite could be considered reasonable given the characters' situation, but the story treats her as stupid for not subscribing to Lisa's capitalist philosophy.
* StrawmanHasAPoint: Jill's suggestion of collective ownership of resourcesseems might seem like a good decision in a world where society has collapsed, but her ideas are shot down in favor of the author's Objectivist preaching.
* DesignatedVillain: Jill. Her ideas
* StrawmanHasAPoint: Jill's suggestion of collective ownership of resources
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Given that Lisa is a twelve-year-old girl taking most of her ideas about property from a book that is implied to be ''Literature/AtlasShrugged'', a possible interpretation of her character is that she is merely reiterating the ideas presented in it without thinking critically about them, as a child would be likely to do.
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* WhatAnIdiot: Lisa commits two blatant violations of common sense in rapid succession near the end of the book (and somehow, neither one comes back to bite her):
** First, when Tom says that he wants to talk with Lisa, she agrees to this and puts her gun down on the table. Tom ends up with the gun and Lisa ends up surrounded by his {{Mook}}s with no way to defend herself. Even she acknowledges the idiocy of falling for such an obvious trick. But it doesn't end there.
** Second, she lays into Tom with a TheReasonYouSuckSpeech about what a coward he is and how he has to steal from other people because he's too scared to try and earn anything himself. Again, he has a gun pointed at her and she's surrounded by his {{Mook}}s. This gets under Tom's skin and causes him to retreat, allowing Lisa to retake the city, but a more realistic setting would have most likely had Lisa end up with a bullet lodged in her skull.
** First, when Tom says that he wants to talk with Lisa, she agrees to this and puts her gun down on the table. Tom ends up with the gun and Lisa ends up surrounded by his {{Mook}}s with no way to defend herself. Even she acknowledges the idiocy of falling for such an obvious trick. But it doesn't end there.
** Second, she lays into Tom with a TheReasonYouSuckSpeech about what a coward he is and how he has to steal from other people because he's too scared to try and earn anything himself. Again, he has a gun pointed at her and she's surrounded by his {{Mook}}s. This gets under Tom's skin and causes him to retreat, allowing Lisa to retake the city, but a more realistic setting would have most likely had Lisa end up with a bullet lodged in her skull.
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** First, when Tom says that he wants to talk with Lisa, she agrees to this and puts her gun down on the table. Tom ends up with the gun and Lisa ends up surrounded by his {{Mook}}s with no way to defend herself. Even she acknowledges the idiocy of falling for such an obvious trick. But it doesn't end there.
** Second, she lays into Tom with a TheReasonYouSuckSpeech about what a coward he is and how he has to steal from other people because he's too scared to try and earn anything himself. Again, he has a gun pointed at her and she's surrounded by his {{Mook}}s. This gets under Tom's skin and causes him to retreat, allowing Lisa to retake the city, but a more realistic setting would have most likely had Lisa end up with a bullet lodged in her skull.
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* StrawmanHasAPoint:JillJill's suggestion of collective ownership of resources seems like a good decision in a world where society has collapsed, but her ideas are shot down in favor of the author's Objectivist preaching.
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Given that Lisa is a twelve-year-old girl taking most of her ideas about property from a book that is implied to be ''Literature/AtlasShrugged'', a possible interpretation of her character is that she is merely reiterating the ideas presented in it without thinking critically about them, as a child would be likely to do.
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* MarySue - A charge frequently leveled at Lisa from critics.
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* UnfortunateImplications - Small children must work for their toys. And its child abuse to NOT make them do a bit of work for a toy.
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** First, when Tom says that he wants to talk with Lisa. She Lisa, she agrees to this and puts her gun down on the table. Tom ends up with the gun and Lisa ends up surrounded by his {{Mook}}s with no way to defend herself. Even she acknowledges the idiocy of falling for such an obvious trick. But it doesn't end there.
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** First, when Tom says that he wants to talk with Lisa. She agrees to this and puts her gun down on the table. Tom ends up with the gun and Lisa ends up surrounded by his {{Mook}}s with no way to defend herself. Even she acknowledges the idiocy of falling for such an obvious trick. But it doesn't end there.
** Second, she lays into Tom with a TheReasonYouSuckSpeech about what a coward he is and how he has to steal from other people because he's too scared to try and earn anything himself. Again, he has a gun pointed at her and she's surrounded by his {{Mook}}s. This gets under Tom's skin and causes him to retreat, allowing Lisa to retake the city, but a more realistic setting would have most likely had Lisa end up with a bullet lodged in her skull.
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* YourMileageMayVary - Some find the book deep and intelligent. [[strike:Most]] Some find it a stunningly misguided attempt at "AtlasShrugged For Kids".
** Some just find it interesting, but without much of a resolution.
** Some just find it interesting, but without much of a resolution.
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