Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Changed line(s) 15 (click to see context) from:
** Barry's SkywardScream being captioned with '''[[VideoGame/MegaManX4 WHATAMIFIGHTINGFOOORRRR!?!?]]''' (see SpiritualAdaptation below).
to:
** Barry's SkywardScream being captioned with '''[[VideoGame/MegaManX4 WHATAMIFIGHTINGFOOORRRR!?!?]]''' (see SpiritualAdaptation below).WHATAMIFIGHTINGFOOORRRR!?!?]]'''.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Was it Killer Frost who asked Savitar if killing Iris will really be worth it, or is it actually Caitlin?
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 1 (click to see context) from:
* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: Music/{{AURORA}}'s [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTwdGRHl5Mw&feature=youtu.be "Murder Song"]] eerily fits the scene of Iris' death.
to:
* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: Music/{{AURORA}}'s [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTwdGRHl5Mw&feature=youtu.be "Murder Song"]] eerily fits the scene of Iris' death.
Changed line(s) 4,5 (click to see context) from:
* HarsherInHindsight: Abra Kadabra had previously claimed that Barry learning Savitar's true identity would allow him to beat Savitar and save Iris. Ultimately, Barry figured it out on his own successfully... yet in the end, it still didn't matter and Savitar won anyway.
* HeReallyCanAct: While Creator/GrantGustin's credibility was already proven numerous times in the past, his ActingForTwo this episode got him even more praise, particularly him showing the desperation of TheHero and the complexity of the BigBad.
* HeReallyCanAct: While Creator/GrantGustin's credibility was already proven numerous times in the past, his ActingForTwo this episode got him even more praise, particularly him showing the desperation of TheHero and the complexity of the BigBad.
to:
* HarsherInHindsight: Abra Kadabra had previously claimed that Barry learning Savitar's true identity would allow him to beat Savitar and save Iris. Ultimately, Barry figured it out on his own successfully... yet in the end, it still didn't matter and Savitar won anyway.
*HeReallyCanAct: SugarWiki/HeReallyCanAct: While Creator/GrantGustin's credibility was already proven numerous times in the past, his ActingForTwo this episode got him even more praise, particularly him showing the desperation of TheHero and the complexity of the BigBad.
*
Changed line(s) 11 (click to see context) from:
** Iris' death might be believable... if it actually aired during May 23rd, which isn't until ''next'' week. However, given that Henry Allen also died before the finale it might be a subversion...
to:
** Iris' death might be believable... if it actually aired during May 23rd, which isn't until ''next'' week. However, given that Henry Allen also died before the finale it might be a subversion...
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 4 (click to see context) from:
* HarsherInHindsight: Abra Kadabra had previously claimed that Barry learning Savitar's true identity would allow him to beat Savitar and save Iris. Ultimately, Barry figured it out on his own successfully...yet in the end, it still didn't matter and Savitar won anyway.
to:
* HarsherInHindsight: Abra Kadabra had previously claimed that Barry learning Savitar's true identity would allow him to beat Savitar and save Iris. Ultimately, Barry figured it out on his own successfully... yet in the end, it still didn't matter and Savitar won anyway.
Changed line(s) 11 (click to see context) from:
** Iris' death might be believable...if it actually aired during May 23rd, which isn't until ''next'' week. However, given that Henry Allen also died before the finale it might be a subversion...
to:
** Iris' death might be believable... if it actually aired during May 23rd, which isn't until ''next'' week. However, given that Henry Allen also died before the finale it might be a subversion...
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 13 (click to see context) from:
* MemeticMutation: Many fans joke that the reason Julian is absent in this episode is because he's still sobbing after Caitlin told him last episode that she never loved him.
to:
* MemeticMutation: MemeticMutation:
** Barry's SkywardScream being captioned with '''[[VideoGame/MegaManX4 WHATAMIFIGHTINGFOOORRRR!?!?]]''' (see SpiritualAdaptation below).
** Many fans joke that the reason Julian is absent in this episode is because he's still sobbing after Caitlin told him last episode that she never loved him.
** Barry's SkywardScream being captioned with '''[[VideoGame/MegaManX4 WHATAMIFIGHTINGFOOORRRR!?!?]]''' (see SpiritualAdaptation below).
** Many fans joke that the reason Julian is absent in this episode is because he's still sobbing after Caitlin told him last episode that she never loved him.
Added DiffLines:
* SpiritualAdaptation: At least regarding once scene. Specifically, the one where Barry is cradling Iris' corpse is compared by some fans to an eerily similar scene from ''VideoGame/MegaManX4'' where the [[RedIsHeroic red-clad hero]] holds his deceased LoveInterest ''also'' named Iris. It does not help that both deaths involve {{Powered Armor}}s, powerful stones, and a {{BFG}}.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* HarsherInHindsight: Abra Kadabra had previously claimed that Barry learning Savitar's true identity would allow him to beat Savitar and save Iris. Ultimately, Barry figured it out on his own successfully...yet in the end, it still didn't matter and Savitar won anyway.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 10 (click to see context) from:
** Iris' death might be believable...if it actually aired during May 23rd, which isn't until ''next'' week.
to:
** Iris' death might be believable...if it actually aired during May 23rd, which isn't until ''next'' week. However, given that Henry Allen also died before the finale it might be a subversion...
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* MoralEventHorizon: We already knew Savitar ''would'' cross it by killing Iris, but here that finally happens--especially since we now know it's essentially a version of ''Barry'' who did that.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added line(s) 8 (click to see context) :
* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: Music/{{AURORA}}'s [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTwdGRHl5Mw&feature=youtu.be "Murder Song"]] eerily fits the scene of Iris' death.
Added line(s) 8 (click to see context) :
* EarWorm: [[Music/{{AURORA}} "5,4,3,2,1..."]]
* HeReallyCanAct: While Creator/GrantGustin's credibility was already proven numerous times in the past, his ActingForTwo this episode got him even more praise, particularly him showing the desperation of TheHero and the complexity of the BigBad.
* HeReallyCanAct: While Creator/GrantGustin's credibility was already proven numerous times in the past, his ActingForTwo this episode got him even more praise, particularly him showing the desperation of TheHero and the complexity of the BigBad.
Changed line(s) 8 (click to see context) from:
** Likewise with Barry actually leaving Snart to be eaten by King Shark, given that Barry recruits him before his actual death in the season finale of ''Legends of Tomorrow''.
to:
** Likewise with Barry actually leaving Snart to be eaten by King Shark, given that Barry recruits him before his actual death in the season Season 1 finale of ''Legends of Tomorrow''.''Series/LegendsOfTomorrow''.
* MemeticMutation: Many fans joke that the reason Julian is absent in this episode is because he's still sobbing after Caitlin told him last episode that she never loved him.
* MemeticMutation: Many fans joke that the reason Julian is absent in this episode is because he's still sobbing after Caitlin told him last episode that she never loved him.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
How exacly the episode presented this to be An Aesop?
Deleted line(s) 2 (click to see context) :
* FamilyUnfriendlyAesop: Sometimes you may try but you can't change the future.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Still STUPID
Changed line(s) 8 (click to see context) from:
** Iris' death might be believable... if it actually aired during May 23rd, which isn't until ''next'' week.
to:
** Iris' death might be believable... if it actually aired during May 23rd, which isn't until ''next'' week.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added line(s) 9 (click to see context) :
* FamilyUnfriendlyAesop: Sometimes you may try but you can't change the future.
Deleted line(s) 9 (click to see context) :
* FamilyUnfriendlyAesop: Sometimes you may try but you can't change the future.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 7 (click to see context) from:
** Iris' death might be believable...if it actually aired during May 23rd, which isn't until ''next'' week.
to:
** Iris' death might be believable... if it actually aired during May 23rd, which isn't until ''next'' week.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* FamilyUnfriendlyAesop: Sometimes you may try but you can't change the future.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 10 (click to see context) from:
* WhatAnIdiot: Barry specifically said that he can't know where Iris is because then Savitar will know too and yet H.R. tells him after just being asked. Even if the Barry who asked ''wasn't'' Savitar H.R. should still know to keep his mouth shut. H.R. lampshades this himself.
to:
* WhatAnIdiot: Barry specifically said that he can't must ''never'' know where Iris is because then Savitar will know too and yet H.R. tells him after just being asked. Even if the Barry who asked ''wasn't'' Savitar H.R. should still know to keep his mouth shut. H.R. lampshades this himself.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 8,9 (click to see context) from:
** Likewise with Barry actually leaving Snart to be eaten by King Shark, given that Barry recruits him before his actual death in the season finale of ''Legends of Tomorrow''
* VisualEffectsOfAwesome: That moment where Savitar looks up while the ''Speed Force Bazooka'' and ''Savitar's own speed energy'' combine looks '''''totally badass'''''
* VisualEffectsOfAwesome: That moment where Savitar looks up while the ''Speed Force Bazooka'' and ''Savitar's own speed energy'' combine looks '''''totally badass'''''
to:
** Likewise with Barry actually leaving Snart to be eaten by King Shark, given that Barry recruits him before his actual death in the season finale of ''Legends of Tomorrow''
Tomorrow''.
* VisualEffectsOfAwesome: That moment where Savitar looks up while the ''Speed Force Bazooka'' and ''Savitar's own speed energy'' combine looks '''''totallybadass'''''badass'''''.
* VisualEffectsOfAwesome: That moment where Savitar looks up while the ''Speed Force Bazooka'' and ''Savitar's own speed energy'' combine looks '''''totally
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 1 (click to see context) from:
* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: Turns out the entire second half of the season was just a long, inevitable slog of Iris marching toward her death.
to:
* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: Turns out the entire second half of the season was just a [[ArcFatigue long, inevitable slog slog]] of Iris marching toward her death.
Changed line(s) 7 (click to see context) from:
** Iris' death might be believable ... if it actually aired during May 23rd, which isn't until ''next'' week.
to:
** Iris' death might be believable ... believable...if it actually aired during May 23rd, which isn't until ''next'' week.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 6 (click to see context) from:
* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: Iris' death might be believable ... if it actually aired during May 23rd, which isn't until ''next'' week.
to:
* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt:
** Iris' death might be believable ... if it actually aired during May 23rd, which isn't until ''next''week.week.
** Likewise with Barry actually leaving Snart to be eaten by King Shark, given that Barry recruits him before his actual death in the season finale of ''Legends of Tomorrow''
** Iris' death might be believable ... if it actually aired during May 23rd, which isn't until ''next''
** Likewise with Barry actually leaving Snart to be eaten by King Shark, given that Barry recruits him before his actual death in the season finale of ''Legends of Tomorrow''
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 7,8 (click to see context) from:
* WhatAnIdiot: Barry specifically said that he can't know where Iris is because then Savitar will know too and yet H.R. tells him after just being asked. Even if the Barry who asked ''wasn't'' Savitar H.R. should still know to keep his mouth shut. H.R. lampshades this himself.
* VisualEffectsOfAwesome: That moment where Savitar looks up while the ''Speed Force Bazooka'' and ''Savitar's own speed energy'' combine looks '''''totally badass'''''
* VisualEffectsOfAwesome: That moment where Savitar looks up while the ''Speed Force Bazooka'' and ''Savitar's own speed energy'' combine looks '''''totally badass'''''
to:
* VisualEffectsOfAwesome: That moment where Savitar looks up while the ''Speed Force Bazooka'' and ''Savitar's own speed energy'' combine looks '''''totally badass'''''
* WhatAnIdiot: Barry specifically said that he can't know where Iris is because then Savitar will know too and yet H.R. tells him after just being asked. Even if the Barry who asked ''wasn't'' Savitar H.R. should still know to keep his mouth shut. H.R. lampshades thishimself.
* VisualEffectsOfAwesome: That moment where Savitar looks up while the ''Speed Force Bazooka'' and ''Savitar's own speed energy'' combine looks '''''totally badass'''''himself.
* WhatAnIdiot: Barry specifically said that he can't know where Iris is because then Savitar will know too and yet H.R. tells him after just being asked. Even if the Barry who asked ''wasn't'' Savitar H.R. should still know to keep his mouth shut. H.R. lampshades this
* VisualEffectsOfAwesome: That moment where Savitar looks up while the ''Speed Force Bazooka'' and ''Savitar's own speed energy'' combine looks '''''totally badass'''''
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 7 (click to see context) from:
* WhatAnIdiot: Barry specifically said that he can't know where Iris is because then Savitar will know too and yet H.R. tells him after just being asked. Even if the Barry who asked ''wasn't'' Savitar H.R. should still know to keep his mouth shut. H.R. lampshades this himself.
to:
* WhatAnIdiot: Barry specifically said that he can't know where Iris is because then Savitar will know too and yet H.R. tells him after just being asked. Even if the Barry who asked ''wasn't'' Savitar H.R. should still know to keep his mouth shut. H.R. lampshades this himself.himself.
* VisualEffectsOfAwesome: That moment where Savitar looks up while the ''Speed Force Bazooka'' and ''Savitar's own speed energy'' combine looks '''''totally badass'''''
* VisualEffectsOfAwesome: That moment where Savitar looks up while the ''Speed Force Bazooka'' and ''Savitar's own speed energy'' combine looks '''''totally badass'''''
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Don't really need the editorial
Changed line(s) 1 (click to see context) from:
* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: Turns out the entire second half of the season was just a long, inevitable slog of Iris marching toward her death. The show has officially reached ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'' Season 6 levels of gratuitous nihilism that just makes you wonder what the point of watching is.
to:
* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: Turns out the entire second half of the season was just a long, inevitable slog of Iris marching toward her death. The show has officially reached ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'' Season 6 levels of gratuitous nihilism that just makes you wonder what the point of watching is.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 5 (click to see context) from:
** Iris actually dying, which flies in the face of all the Flash stands for - hope, idealism, and the ability to control your own fate.
to:
** Iris actually dying, which flies in the face of all the Flash stands for - hope, idealism, and even though you can't change the ability to control your own fate.past you can change the future.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 3,4 (click to see context) from:
* InternetBackdraft: This is the second time that Snart's been pulled from the timeline only to be put back. Many fans just wish that the writers would bring him back for real.
* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: Iris' death might be believable ... if it actually aired during May 23rd, which isn't until net week.
* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: Iris' death might be believable ... if it actually aired during May 23rd, which isn't until net week.
to:
* InternetBackdraft: InternetBackdraft:
** This is the second time that Snart's been pulled from the timeline only to be put back. Many fans just wish that the writers would bring him back for real.
** Iris actually dying, which flies in the face of all the Flash stands for - hope, idealism, and the ability to control your own fate.
* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: Iris' death might be believable ... if it actually aired during May 23rd, which isn't untilnet ''next'' week.
** This is the second time that Snart's been pulled from the timeline only to be put back. Many fans just wish that the writers would bring him back for real.
** Iris actually dying, which flies in the face of all the Flash stands for - hope, idealism, and the ability to control your own fate.
* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: Iris' death might be believable ... if it actually aired during May 23rd, which isn't until
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 4 (click to see context) from:
* WhatAnIdiot: Barry specifically said that he can't know where Iris is because then Savitar will know too and yet H.R. tells him after just being asked. Even if the Barry who asked ''wasn't'' Savitar H.R. should still know to keep his mouth shut.
to:
* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: Iris' death might be believable ... if it actually aired during May 23rd, which isn't until net week.
* WhatAnIdiot: Barry specifically said that he can't know where Iris is because then Savitar will know too and yet H.R. tells him after just being asked. Even if the Barry who asked ''wasn't'' Savitar H.R. should still know to keep his mouth shut. H.R. lampshades this himself.
* WhatAnIdiot: Barry specifically said that he can't know where Iris is because then Savitar will know too and yet H.R. tells him after just being asked. Even if the Barry who asked ''wasn't'' Savitar H.R. should still know to keep his mouth shut. H.R. lampshades this himself.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 4 (click to see context) from:
* WhatAnIdiot: Barry specifically said that he can't know where Iris is because then Savitar will know to and yet H.R. tells him after just being asked. Even if the Barry who asked ''wasn't'' Savitar H.R. should still know to keep his mouth shut.
to:
* WhatAnIdiot: Barry specifically said that he can't know where Iris is because then Savitar will know to too and yet H.R. tells him after just being asked. Even if the Barry who asked ''wasn't'' Savitar H.R. should still know to keep his mouth shut.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: Turns out the entire second half of the season was just a long, inevitable slog of Iris marching toward her death. The show has officially reached ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'' Season 6 levels of gratuitous nihilism that just makes you wonder what the point of watching is.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 2 (click to see context) from:
* InternetBackdraft: This is the second time that Snart's been pulled from the timeline only to be put back. Many fans just wish that the writers would bring him back for real.
to:
* InternetBackdraft: This is the second time that Snart's been pulled from the timeline only to be put back. Many fans just wish that the writers would bring him back for real.real.
* WhatAnIdiot: Barry specifically said that he can't know where Iris is because then Savitar will know to and yet H.R. tells him after just being asked. Even if the Barry who asked ''wasn't'' Savitar H.R. should still know to keep his mouth shut.
* WhatAnIdiot: Barry specifically said that he can't know where Iris is because then Savitar will know to and yet H.R. tells him after just being asked. Even if the Barry who asked ''wasn't'' Savitar H.R. should still know to keep his mouth shut.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 1 (click to see context) from:
* HSQ: Savitar actually kills Iris ''before'' the finale.
to:
* HSQ: {{HSQ}}: Savitar actually kills Iris ''before'' the finale.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* HSQ: Savitar actually kills Iris ''before'' the finale.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* InternetBackdraft: This is the second time that Snart's been pulled from the timeline only to be put back. Many fans just wish that the writers would bring him back for real.
