History YMMV / TheFastAndTheFurious

16th Jun '17 6:21:14 PM Cieloazul
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** Roman has started turning into a controversial character due to a perceived decay on his comic relief and the fact that he is noticeably the least developed and most static character in the franchise.
** Scott Eastwood's inclusion as Little Nobody in ''The Fate of the Furious'' has been met with controversy, as his character does little for the plot of the film and instead eats screentime who would better used for other characters, in special his superior Mr. Nobody, played by the much more popular Creator/KurtRussell.
** Madgalene Shaw. Her appearance is either a hilarious and awesome addition to the Shaws or the point in which the brothers lose definitely their aura.
* BrokenBase: The franchise's famous tendence to {{Retcon}} the events of every installment into a bigger picture in the next is considered both a sign of ingenuity on the writers's part ''and'' an inevitable source of controversial unexpected plot twisting. The discussion reached its peak at the eight film, whose script put a lot of effort to turn the villains of the two previous films into unwitting pawns or heroic characters at the expense of their characterization.

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** Roman has started turning into a controversial character due to a perceived decay on the quality of his comic relief and the fact that he is noticeably the least developed and most static character in the franchise.
** Scott Eastwood's inclusion as Little Nobody in ''The Fate of the Furious'' has been met with controversy, as his character does little for the plot of the film and instead eats screentime who would better used for other characters, in special his superior Mr. Nobody, played by the much more popular Creator/KurtRussell.
** Madgalene Shaw. Her appearance is either a hilarious and awesome addition to the Shaws (and the franchise, considering [[Creator/HelenMirren who]] plays the good mama) or the point in which the brothers lose definitely their menacing aura.
* BrokenBase: The franchise's famous tendence to {{Retcon}} insert the events of every installment into a bigger picture in the next (often in a heavy-handed way or using {{Retcon}} in plenty) is considered both a sign of ingenuity on the writers's part ''and'' an inevitable source of controversial and unexpected plot twisting. The discussion reached its peak at the eight film, whose script put which puts a lot of effort to turn the irreedemable villains of the two previous films into heroic unwitting pawns or heroic characters at the expense of their characterization.



* DesignatedHero: Dom and his crew frequently use plans that cause massive collateral damage, put innocent people in danger and the films gloss over any potential casualties. In ''Fast Five'' they flat out murder over a dozen police officers when they break into the police station and escape with the vault full of money, and the movie glosses over saying the police are all corrupt. And yet Dom insists that they aren't killers.

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* DesignatedHero: Dom and his crew frequently use plans that cause massive collateral damage, damage and put innocent people in danger and danger, but the films gloss over any potential casualties. In ''Fast Five'' they flat out murder over a dozen police officers when they break into the police station and escape with the vault full of money, and the movie glosses over saying the police are all corrupt. And yet Dom insists that they aren't killers.



** A nice list of Narmful moments can be found [[http://funnymama.com/post/197534 here]].



** RondaRousey might get a badass fighting scene in the film, but many agree that when it came for her to say actual dialogue and act that she had a bad case of DullSurprise.

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** RondaRousey Creator/RondaRousey might get a badass fighting scene in the film, but many agree that when it came for her to say actual dialogue and act that she had a bad case of DullSurprise.DullSurprise.
** The airport at the ending of ''7''. Just how long has the damn landing track to be to allow for such a long battle while taking off?



** Creator/JasonStatham's antics while [[rescuing Briang Toretto]] in the 8th film. Endearing as they might be, they produce a good dose of MoodWhiplash and never stop feeling like an extended OutOfCharacterMoment.



* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Deckard Shaw, played by a certified badass {{Jason Statham}} in his most PlayingAgainstType role yet, seems to be kind of a let down in the seventh movie. Yes, he has his badassery moments like tearing down half of a hospital [[spoiler: just to see his brother]], injuring Hobbs and [[spoiler: killing Han and [[MakeItLookLikeAnAccident making it to look like an accident]],]] all before going after Dom's crew. But after [[spoiler: Mose Jakande, the movie's ''other'' BigBad shows up,]] he gets sidelined into showing up for a couple scenes during each conflict Dom's crew got themselves into, [[spoiler: and the last act ultimately turns out to be mainly about Jakande's mercenaries, with Deckard just going after Dom and him alone without caring that his other friends are also equally responsible for crippling his brother.]] Sure, he gets his chance to shine in the movie, but after all that build up in the trailers as the ultimate badass out for Dom's crew's blood, seeing him got sidelined by [[spoiler: Jakande, who doesn't even show up in any trailer]], may put off some viewers. At least at the end of the movie [[spoiler: Deckard is still alive, while Jakande isn't, paving the way for him and his brother to return in the sequel and even [[HeelFaceTurn redeem themselves]].]]

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Deckard Shaw, played by a certified badass {{Jason Statham}} in his most PlayingAgainstType role yet, seems to be kind of a let down in the seventh movie. Yes, he has his badassery moments like tearing down half of a hospital [[spoiler: just to see his brother]], injuring Hobbs and [[spoiler: killing Han and [[MakeItLookLikeAnAccident making it to look like an accident]],]] all before going after Dom's crew. But after [[spoiler: Mose Jakande, the movie's ''other'' BigBad shows up,]] he gets sidelined into showing up for a couple scenes during each conflict Dom's crew got themselves into, [[spoiler: and the last act ultimately turns out to be mainly about Jakande's mercenaries, with Deckard just going after Dom and him alone without caring that his other friends are also equally responsible for crippling his brother.]] Sure, he gets his chance to shine in the movie, but after all that build up in the trailers as the ultimate badass out for Dom's crew's blood, seeing him got sidelined by [[spoiler: Jakande, who doesn't even show up in any trailer]], may put off some viewers. At least at the end of the movie [[spoiler: Deckard is still alive, while Jakande isn't, paving the way for him and his brother to return in the sequel and even [[HeelFaceTurn redeem themselves]].]]
11th Jun '17 7:52:09 AM Morgenthaler
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* CompleteMonster: [[DiabolicalMastermind Cipher]], the BigBad of the film and the GreaterScopeVillain of the series, is a powerful [[TheCracker hacker]] and cyber terrorist with the goal of becoming a [[DarkActionGirl one-woman army]] by obtaining some nuclear codes. Initially posing as a random woman in Cuba, she quickly blackmails Dom into betraying his family and aiding her by [[spoiler:having Elena and her newborn son (Dom's child) kidnapped and kept as bargaining chips]]. As she attacks Mr. Nobody's headquarters to steal the God's Eye, it is also revealed that she caused Owen Shaw's fall into villainy, which earns her Deckard's hate. In New York, Cipher takes controls of hundreds of remote-controlled cars and crash them everywhere, causing untold chaos and panic just to get to the Russian minister who has the nuclear codes. When Dom allows Letty to escape with the codes, Cipher responds by [[spoiler:killing Elena in front of Dom and his child]]. When [[spoiler:Deckard Shaw]] invades her plane at the end, she avoids defeat by jumping out, fully expecting him to stop [[spoiler: Dom's son]] [[WouldHurtAChild from falling to his death]]. Cipher is an utter [[TheSociopath sociopath]] and {{hypocrite}}, praising the freedom of doing whatever one wishes but [[TheBully delighting in taking this freedom away from others]], and commits her crimes simply [[ItAmusedMe she wants to]]. She [[LackOfEmpathy doesn't understand love and affection]] above an evolutionary level and crosses many lines, on global but also on personal levels, such as when she kisses Dom in front of Letty ForTheEvulz.

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* CompleteMonster: [[DiabolicalMastermind Cipher]], the BigBad of the eighth film and the GreaterScopeVillain of the series, is a powerful [[TheCracker hacker]] and cyber terrorist with the goal of becoming a [[DarkActionGirl one-woman army]] by obtaining some nuclear codes. Initially posing as a random woman in Cuba, she quickly blackmails Dom into betraying his family and aiding her by [[spoiler:having Elena and her newborn son (Dom's child) kidnapped and kept as bargaining chips]]. As she attacks Mr. Nobody's headquarters to steal the God's Eye, it is also revealed that she caused Owen Shaw's fall into villainy, which earns her Deckard's hate. In New York, Cipher takes controls of hundreds of remote-controlled cars and crash them everywhere, causing untold chaos and panic just to get to the Russian minister who has the nuclear codes. When Dom allows Letty to escape with the codes, Cipher responds by [[spoiler:killing Elena in front of Dom and his child]]. When [[spoiler:Deckard Shaw]] invades her plane at the end, she avoids defeat by jumping out, fully expecting him to stop [[spoiler: Dom's son]] [[WouldHurtAChild from falling to his death]]. Cipher is an utter [[TheSociopath sociopath]] and {{hypocrite}}, praising the freedom of doing whatever one wishes but [[TheBully delighting in taking this freedom away from others]], and commits her crimes simply [[ItAmusedMe she wants to]]. She [[LackOfEmpathy doesn't understand love and affection]] above an evolutionary level and crosses many lines, on global but also on personal levels, such as when she kisses Dom in front of Letty ForTheEvulz.
3rd Jun '17 2:53:29 PM mouschilight
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* AwardSnub: Despite feats such as peeking at #1 at the Billboard Top 100 after starting at #100 in only five weeks, breaking a record that had stood since ''1959'', "See You Again" from ''Furious 7'' was not nominated for an Oscar for Best Song.

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* AwardSnub: Despite feats such as peeking at #1 at the Billboard Top 100 after starting at #100 in only five weeks, breaking a record that had stood since ''1959'', being nominated for a Golden Globe and then winning a Critics Choice Award, "See You Again" from ''Furious 7'' was not nominated for an Oscar for Best Original Song.
25th May '17 11:49:05 AM MisterCPC
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** Helen Mirren in ''Fate of the Furious,'' who only has two scenes as [[spoiler:the Shaw brothers' mother Magdalene,]] but easily makes the most of both of them.
25th May '17 11:48:41 AM MisterCPC
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** Helen Mirren in ''Fate of the Furious,'' who only has two scenes as [[spoiler:the Shaw brothers' mother Magdalene,]] but easily makes the most of both of them.
25th May '17 11:42:30 AM MisterCPC
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* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: [[spoiler:Dom turning evil in the 8th film, ''The Fate of the Furious.'' Several fans are already guessing that [[{{Superdickery}} there's more to it than meets the eye]] and doubt that Dom becoming a villain will actually last. If anything, it's probably to cover the fact that the Shaw brothers pull off a HeelFaceTurn and are accepted into the team.]]

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* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: [[spoiler:Dom turning evil in the 8th film, ''The Fate of the Furious.'' Several fans are already guessing that [[{{Superdickery}} there's more to it than meets the eye]] and doubt that Dom becoming a villain will actually last. If anything, it's probably to cover both the reason why he joins forces with the villain, due to him having a son being held hostage, and the fact that the Shaw brothers pull off a HeelFaceTurn and are accepted into the team.team, as the actual film makes it clear from the very beginning that Dom is working with Cipher against his will.]]
22nd May '17 12:19:25 PM crazyrabbits
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* FridgeBrilliance: In ''2 Fast 2 Furious'', Markham tries to pair Brian with an Agent Dunn who's first seen drinking a soda from a cup labelled "Gallo's Pizza". Brian tests his tuning knowledge by asking if a Gallo 12 or a Gallo 24 would be a better motor for his Skyline. When Dunn suggests a Gallo 24, Brian rejects him as a partner. At first, it looks like Brian rejected him because he wasn't up on automotive knowledge, but Brian's question highlights a better reason to reject him: Dunn failed to remember what pizza place he got his soda at. Brian doesn't want to put his life in the hands of someone that unobservant.
14th May '17 4:43:54 AM ACW
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* CompleteMonster: Cipher is a powerful hacker and cyber terrorist with the goal of becoming an one-woman army by obtaining some nuclear codes. Initially posing as a random woman in Cuba, she quickly blackmails Dom into betraying his family and aiding her by [[spoiler: having Elena and her newborn son (Dom's child) kidnapped and kept as bargaining chips]]. As she attacks Mr. Nobody's headquarters to steal the God's Eye, it is also revealed that she caused Owen Shaw's fall into villainy- which earns her Deckard's hate. In New York, Cipher takes controls of hundreds of remote-controlled cars and crash them everywhere, causing untold chaos and panic just to get to the Russian minister who has the nuclear codes. When Dom allows Letty to escape with the codes, Cipher responds by [[spoiler: killing Elena in front of Dom and his child]]. When [[spoiler: Deckard Shaw]] invades her plane at the end, she avoids defeat by jumping out, fully expecting him to stop [[spoiler: Dom's son]] [[WouldHurtAChild from falling to his death]]. Cipher is an utter sociopath and hypocrite, praising the freedom of doing whatever one wishes but delighting in taking this freedom away from others. She doesn't understand love and affection above an evolutionary level and crosses many lines, both on global and personal levels.

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* CompleteMonster: Cipher [[DiabolicalMastermind Cipher]], the BigBad of the film and the GreaterScopeVillain of the series, is a powerful hacker [[TheCracker hacker]] and cyber terrorist with the goal of becoming an a [[DarkActionGirl one-woman army army]] by obtaining some nuclear codes. Initially posing as a random woman in Cuba, she quickly blackmails Dom into betraying his family and aiding her by [[spoiler: having [[spoiler:having Elena and her newborn son (Dom's child) kidnapped and kept as bargaining chips]]. As she attacks Mr. Nobody's headquarters to steal the God's Eye, it is also revealed that she caused Owen Shaw's fall into villainy- villainy, which earns her Deckard's hate. In New York, Cipher takes controls of hundreds of remote-controlled cars and crash them everywhere, causing untold chaos and panic just to get to the Russian minister who has the nuclear codes. When Dom allows Letty to escape with the codes, Cipher responds by [[spoiler: killing [[spoiler:killing Elena in front of Dom and his child]]. When [[spoiler: Deckard [[spoiler:Deckard Shaw]] invades her plane at the end, she avoids defeat by jumping out, fully expecting him to stop [[spoiler: Dom's son]] [[WouldHurtAChild from falling to his death]]. Cipher is an utter sociopath [[TheSociopath sociopath]] and hypocrite, {{hypocrite}}, praising the freedom of doing whatever one wishes but [[TheBully delighting in taking this freedom away from others. others]], and commits her crimes simply [[ItAmusedMe she wants to]]. She [[LackOfEmpathy doesn't understand love and affection affection]] above an evolutionary level and crosses many lines, both on global and but also on personal levels.levels, such as when she kisses Dom in front of Letty ForTheEvulz.
11th May '17 7:35:38 AM MatLShini
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* CompleteMonster: Cipher is a powerful hacker and cyber terrorist with the goal of becoming an one-woman army by obtaining some nuclear codes. Initially posing as a random woman in Cuba, she quickly blackmails Dom into betraying his family and aiding her by [[spoiler: having Elena and her newborn son (Dom's child) kidnapped and kept as bargaining chips]]. As she attacks Mr. Nobody's headquarters to steal the God's Eye, it is also revealed that she caused Owen Shaw's fall into villainy- which earns her Deckard's hate. In New York, Cipher takes controls of hundreds of remote-controlled cars and crash them everywhere, causing untold chaos and panic just to get to the Russian minister who has the nuclear codes. When Dom allows Letty to escape with the codes, Cipher responds by [[spoiler: killing Elena in front of Dom and his child]]. When [[spoiler: Deckard Shaw]] invades her plane at the end, she avoids defeat by jumping out, fully expecting him to stop [[spoiler: Dom's son]] to fall to his death. Cipher is an utter sociopath and hypocrite, praising the freedom of doing whatever one wishes but delighting in taking this freedom away from others. She doesn't understand love and affection above an evolutionary level and crosses many lines, both on global and personal levels.

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* CompleteMonster: Cipher is a powerful hacker and cyber terrorist with the goal of becoming an one-woman army by obtaining some nuclear codes. Initially posing as a random woman in Cuba, she quickly blackmails Dom into betraying his family and aiding her by [[spoiler: having Elena and her newborn son (Dom's child) kidnapped and kept as bargaining chips]]. As she attacks Mr. Nobody's headquarters to steal the God's Eye, it is also revealed that she caused Owen Shaw's fall into villainy- which earns her Deckard's hate. In New York, Cipher takes controls of hundreds of remote-controlled cars and crash them everywhere, causing untold chaos and panic just to get to the Russian minister who has the nuclear codes. When Dom allows Letty to escape with the codes, Cipher responds by [[spoiler: killing Elena in front of Dom and his child]]. When [[spoiler: Deckard Shaw]] invades her plane at the end, she avoids defeat by jumping out, fully expecting him to stop [[spoiler: Dom's son]] to fall [[WouldHurtAChild from falling to his death.death]]. Cipher is an utter sociopath and hypocrite, praising the freedom of doing whatever one wishes but delighting in taking this freedom away from others. She doesn't understand love and affection above an evolutionary level and crosses many lines, both on global and personal levels.
10th May '17 8:56:15 PM MatLShini
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* CompleteMonster: Cipher is a powerful hacker and cyber terrorist with the goal of becoming an one-woman army by obtaining some nuclear codes. Initially posing as a random woman in Cuba, she quickly blackmails Dom into betraying his family and aiding her by [[spoiler: having Elena and her newborn son (Dom's child) kidnapped and kept as bargaining chips]]. As she attacks Mr. Nobody's headquarters to steal the God's Eye, it is also revealed that she caused Owen Shaw's fall into villainy- which earns her Deckard's hate. In New York, Cipher takes controls of hundreds of remote-controlled cars and crash them everywhere, causing untold chaos and panic just to get to the Russian minister who has the nuclear codes. When Dom allows Letty to escape with the codes, Cipher responds by [[spoiler: killing Elena in front of Dom and his child]]. When [[spoiler: Deckard Shaw]] invades her plane at the end, she avoids defeat by jumping out, fully expecting him to stop [[spoiler: Dom's son]] to fall to his death. Cipher is an utter sociopath and hypocrite, praising the freedom of doing whatever one wishes but delighting in taking this freedom away from others. She doesn't understand love and effection above an evolutionary level and crosses many lines, both on global and personal levels.

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* CompleteMonster: Cipher is a powerful hacker and cyber terrorist with the goal of becoming an one-woman army by obtaining some nuclear codes. Initially posing as a random woman in Cuba, she quickly blackmails Dom into betraying his family and aiding her by [[spoiler: having Elena and her newborn son (Dom's child) kidnapped and kept as bargaining chips]]. As she attacks Mr. Nobody's headquarters to steal the God's Eye, it is also revealed that she caused Owen Shaw's fall into villainy- which earns her Deckard's hate. In New York, Cipher takes controls of hundreds of remote-controlled cars and crash them everywhere, causing untold chaos and panic just to get to the Russian minister who has the nuclear codes. When Dom allows Letty to escape with the codes, Cipher responds by [[spoiler: killing Elena in front of Dom and his child]]. When [[spoiler: Deckard Shaw]] invades her plane at the end, she avoids defeat by jumping out, fully expecting him to stop [[spoiler: Dom's son]] to fall to his death. Cipher is an utter sociopath and hypocrite, praising the freedom of doing whatever one wishes but delighting in taking this freedom away from others. She doesn't understand love and effection affection above an evolutionary level and crosses many lines, both on global and personal levels.
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