History YMMV / TheCloneSaga

14th Aug '16 8:21:50 AM CaptainMar-Vell92
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* VillainDecay: Judas Traveller was introduced as a ominous character with great mystical powers who managed to [[TheWorfEffect subdue villains like Carnage]] in his first appearrance and it is implied later that he's Judas Iscariot himself. [[spoiler:Is eventually revealed that he's actually a mutant with the ability of altering perception, making others think he's more powerful than what he is in reality]].
6th Jul '16 10:15:13 AM TheAmazingBlachman
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## Ben Reilly is revealed to be the clone and melts away. Mary Jane ''also'' disintegrates, revealing that the Jackal had replaced her with a clone long ago, and that Peter was never married to begin with. ("[[Film/AustinPowers Wait a tick -- I'm single again!]]")

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## Ben Reilly is revealed to be the clone and melts away. Mary Jane ''also'' disintegrates, revealing that the Jackal had replaced her with a clone long ago, and that Peter was never married to begin with. ("[[Film/AustinPowers Wait a tick -- That means I'm single again!]]")
15th May '16 4:37:18 PM AnotherGuy
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-->'''[[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall Linkara]]:''' ''(after Peter thinks the Jackal may have been lying)'' Gee, Peter, maybe I '''''should hit you with my CLUE STICK!'''''

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-->'''[[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall Linkara]]:''' ''(after Peter thinks the Jackal may have been lying)'' Gee, Peter, maybe I don't know, Peter. Maybe I '''''should hit you with my CLUE STICK!'''''
15th May '16 4:34:55 PM AnotherGuy
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-->'''[[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall Linkara]]: ''(after Peter thinks the Jackal may have been lying)'' Gee, Peter, maybe I '''''should hit you with my CLUE STICK!'''''

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-->'''[[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall Linkara]]: Linkara]]:''' ''(after Peter thinks the Jackal may have been lying)'' Gee, Peter, maybe I '''''should hit you with my CLUE STICK!'''''
15th May '16 4:34:28 PM AnotherGuy
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* WhatAnIdiot: Peter Parker is definitely at his stupidest here. He believes everything the Jackal says in ''Maximum Cloneage'', despite the fact the guy's already proven to be an utter liar.
-->'''[[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall Linkara]]: ''(after Peter thinks the Jackal may have been lying)'' Gee, Peter, maybe I '''''should hit you with my CLUE STICK!'''''
18th Oct '15 9:29:19 AM Anddrix
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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Fans' reaction to [[spoiler:to changing Doc Ock's powers from {{technopath}}y to basically making him SelfDemonstrating/{{Magneto}}-lite.]]

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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Fans' reaction to [[spoiler:to changing Doc Ock's powers from {{technopath}}y to basically making him SelfDemonstrating/{{Magneto}}-lite.ComicBook/{{Magneto}}-lite.]]
30th Sep '15 4:18:20 PM nombretomado
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* EndingFatigue: One of the main strikes against the Clone Saga. It was supposed to last about six months, but dragged out for two years. The comics were selling well (a stark contrast to others at the time) and ExecutiveMeddling forced them to drag it out. "The Trial of Peter Parker" storyline eventually reveals that Peter is the clone and Ben the original, leading into the six-part ''Maximum Clonage'' story. That story ends with the Jackal's death and his plans foiled... but the overall saga keeps going because neither Peter nor Ben can decide "who will wear the webs." Eventually, Peter and MJ get PutOnABus, leaving Ben the sole spider hero in town... but he stays as the Scarlet Spider. Marvel decided to milk it by printing ''ComicBook/ScarletSpider'' issues for a couple of months (basically taking a cue from ''ComicBook/AgeOfApocalypse'') before finally having him become Spider-Man (albeit in a modified costume). That would've been the end of it, but fans hated the reveal of Ben as the original and sales kept going down. So, Peter and MJ came back, a Spider-Man skeleton was discovered to create ambiguity about the results and a mysterious villain named Gaunt turned up. Things were going to be settled during "Blood Brothers" (another six-parter), but {{Onslaught}} was coming up and Marvel didn't want either story stepping on the other's toes. Some months down the line, the "Revelations" four-parter happened and finally put an end to this storyline. Even people that feel [[CriticalBacklash the Clone Saga's reputation has been blown out of proportion]] admit it's longer than it needed to be.

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* EndingFatigue: One of the main strikes against the Clone Saga. It was supposed to last about six months, but dragged out for two years. The comics were selling well (a stark contrast to others at the time) and ExecutiveMeddling forced them to drag it out. "The Trial of Peter Parker" storyline eventually reveals that Peter is the clone and Ben the original, leading into the six-part ''Maximum Clonage'' story. That story ends with the Jackal's death and his plans foiled... but the overall saga keeps going because neither Peter nor Ben can decide "who will wear the webs." Eventually, Peter and MJ get PutOnABus, leaving Ben the sole spider hero in town... but he stays as the Scarlet Spider. Marvel decided to milk it by printing ''ComicBook/ScarletSpider'' issues for a couple of months (basically taking a cue from ''ComicBook/AgeOfApocalypse'') before finally having him become Spider-Man (albeit in a modified costume). That would've been the end of it, but fans hated the reveal of Ben as the original and sales kept going down. So, Peter and MJ came back, a Spider-Man skeleton was discovered to create ambiguity about the results and a mysterious villain named Gaunt turned up. Things were going to be settled during "Blood Brothers" (another six-parter), but {{Onslaught}} ComicBook/{{Onslaught}} was coming up and Marvel didn't want either story stepping on the other's toes. Some months down the line, the "Revelations" four-parter happened and finally put an end to this storyline. Even people that feel [[CriticalBacklash the Clone Saga's reputation has been blown out of proportion]] admit it's longer than it needed to be.
12th Dec '14 9:03:57 AM MrDeath
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-->'''[[AtopTheFourthWall Linkara]]:''' Hindsight's a bitch, isn't it?
12th Dec '14 5:56:44 AM AnotherGuy
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-->'''[[AtopTheFourthWall Linkara]]:''' Hindsights a bitch, isn't it?

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-->'''[[AtopTheFourthWall Linkara]]:''' Hindsights Hindsight's a bitch, isn't it?
12th Dec '14 5:56:16 AM AnotherGuy
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* HilariousInHindsight: The whole thing was an attempt to get an unmarried Spider-Man. If that [[ComicBook/OneMoreDay sounds familiar]], you should note that [[WhatCouldHaveBeen at one point, Mephisto was going to be the]] AuthorsSavingThrow, via a ShootTheShaggyDog StableTimeLoop. The editors at the time thought this was a bad idea and abandoned the concept. [[ComicBook/OneMoreDay Then JoeQuesada picked it up again...]]

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* HilariousInHindsight: The whole thing was an attempt to get an unmarried Spider-Man. If that [[ComicBook/OneMoreDay sounds familiar]], you should note that [[WhatCouldHaveBeen at one point, Mephisto was going to be the]] AuthorsSavingThrow, via a ShootTheShaggyDog StableTimeLoop. The editors at the time thought this was a bad idea and abandoned the concept. Then Creator/JoeQuesada [[ComicBook/OneMoreDay Then JoeQuesada picked it up again...]]
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