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** The Heralds of the Shredder, a.k.a. the Foot Mystics, count as well for their successful plan to resurrect their true master, the Demon Shredder, despite the failures of their demonic mooks.
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** The Demon Shredder as well, who is little more than a CardCarryingVillain that wants to [[DystopiaJustifiesTheMeans turn the whole planet in a literal hell]] ForTheEvulz, and is an even worse BadBoss than the Utrom Shredder.
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*** To recap, in Nano's first appearance, it's defeated by getting dropped into a vat of molten steel, and survived, and only to get broken into pieces when returned. An AI that's only a child at heart and doesn't fully understand right from gets defeats more painful that what the CompleteMonster villains in the series endure.
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** To say nothing of Shredder's reaction to Stockman's continued failures.
** HighOctaneNightmareFuel: ''Same As It Never Was'', the episode seemed to have been intentionally designed to be utterly terrifying, and probably to show exactly what the Shredder would do if he were to take over a planet, the results are, yet again, terrifying.
** HighOctaneNightmareFuel: ''Same As It Never Was'', the episode seemed to have been intentionally designed to be utterly terrifying, and probably to show exactly what the Shredder would do if he were to take over a planet, the results are, yet again, terrifying.
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**HighOctaneNightmareFuel: ''Same As It Never Was'', the episode seemed to have been intentionally designed to be utterly terrifying, and probably to show exactly what the Shredder would do if he were to take over a planet, the results are, yet again, terrifying.
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* HilariousInHindsight: In "Exodus", it was promised "[[WhamEpisode One of these characters will never be seen again.]]", and after the episode, Ch'rell is banished to an ice planet, likely never to be seen again... That is, until ''TurtlesForever'', and even earlier than ''that'', in the first ''Back To The Sewers'' episode, and they even planned on an arc involving "The Shredder Wars" had ''Back To The Sewers'' got another season, either way, the promise clearly wasn't kept.
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** In "Exodus", it was promised "[[WhamEpisode One of these characters will never be seen again.]]", and after the episode, Ch'rell is banished to an ice planet, likely never to be seen again... That is, until ''TurtlesForever'', and even earlier than ''that'', in the first ''Back To The Sewers'' episode, and they even planned on an arc involving "The Shredder Wars" had ''Back To The Sewers'' got another season, either way, the promise clearly wasn't kept.
** In "Exodus", it was promised "[[WhamEpisode One of these characters will never be seen again.]]", and after the episode, Ch'rell is banished to an ice planet, likely never to be seen again... That is, until ''TurtlesForever'', and even earlier than ''that'', in the first ''Back To The Sewers'' episode, and they even planned on an arc involving "The Shredder Wars" had ''Back To The Sewers'' got another season, either way, the promise clearly wasn't kept.
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** ''Same as it Never Was'' has April try and take out Karai with a rocket launcher. Why is this hilarious? In the CG film April is voiced by SarahMichelleGellar...BuffyTheVampireSlayer who infamously killed a demon with a rocket launcher.
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** The entire 2003 series got accused of this by fans of the [[WesternAnimation/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles1987 '80s cartoon]], with complaints that they wished it was more like the "original" series. The irony being that the 2003 series, was far more faithful to the [[ComicBook/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles REAL original Turtles]] of the comics, than the '80s series ever was. FanDumb indeed.
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** The entire 2003 series got accused of this by fans of the [[WesternAnimation/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles1987 '80s cartoon]], with complaints that they wished it was more like the "original" series. The irony being that the 2003 series, was far more faithful to the [[ComicBook/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles [[ComicBook/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtlesMirage REAL original Turtles]] of the comics, than the '80s series ever was. FanDumb indeed.
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* FanonDiscontinuity: For some fans, ''Fast Forward'' and ''Back to the Sewer'' seasons.
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** Also, Usagi and Gen are both really popular and tend to steal the show whenever they show up.
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* FanonDiscontinuity: For some fans, ''Fast Forward'' and ''Back to the Sewer'' seasons.
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** Really Season 4 was the high point with some complex and surprisingly well written arcs for both Leonardy and Michelangelo. The two retools made the show much more child friendly and typical (robots, digital realms, collect the clues saga), but Season 4 stands as a nice end to a good cartoon.
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* ReplacementScrappy: The Demon Shredder [[YourMilageMayVary may]] escape this, thanks to RuleOfCool / RuleOfScary. The Cyber Shredder is a borderline example, being a AI copy of the original with no really distinctive features on his own besides living inside cyberspace.
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* ReplacementScrappy: The Demon Shredder [[YourMilageMayVary may]] escape this, thanks to RuleOfCool / RuleOfScary.Shredder. The Cyber Shredder is a borderline example, being a AI copy of the original with no really distinctive features on his own besides living inside cyberspace.
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* FridgeLogic: Rare in-universe example during ''Fast Forward.'' When the turtles find what appears to be April's journal, from which Cody learned about the turtles, they all sneak in to read it late at night. However, as they get to the end of Raphael's story, they notice contradictions between the story and what they already know about recent history. Just then, Cody and Splinter enter and reveal that they had replaced the journal with a fake to teach the turtles a lesson.
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* FanonDiscontinuity: For some fans, ''Fast Forward'' and ''Back to the Sewer'' seasons.
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* FidgeHorror: Possibly mixed with HarsherInHindsight. An un-produced episode of the Ninja Tribunal season was going to reveal that Hun and The Garbageman were conjoined twins separated at birth by a back-alley surgeon. That was horrific enough that it got the episode scraped by the network, but it gets even ''worse'' when who realize that it was hinted at ''two seasons earlier'' during "Same As It Never Was." Brings the Shredder's punishment of Hun and Stockman to an all-new level of [[IronicEcho "apropos."]]
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* FidgeHorror: Possibly mixed with HarsherInHindsight. An un-produced episode of the Ninja Tribunal season was going to reveal that Hun and The Garbageman were conjoined twins separated at birth by a back-alley surgeon. That was horrific enough that it got the episode scraped by the network, but it gets even ''worse'' when who realize that it was hinted at ''two seasons earlier'' during "Same As It Never Was." Brings the Shredder's punishment of Hun and Stockman to an all-new level of [[IronicEcho "apropos."]]
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* StrawmanHasAPoint: Throughtout Season 4, Leonardo becomes increasingly hardened and more of a jerk than Raphael ever was. After the Turtles and Casey fail to stop a Purple Dragon convoy in "Dragons Rising," the trope is invoked as Leonardo delivers a pretty brutal TheReasonYouSuckSpeech:
-->'''Leonardo:''' Half! We stopped half and only because we got lucky! Is that good enough for you? Is it?! We're always one step behind! We act like a bunch of amateurs! How many times are we gonna get beaten before you guys wise up and realize ''this isn't a game?! (storms off)''\\
'''Raphael:''' I hate to admit it, but he ain't wrong.
-->'''Leonardo:''' Half! We stopped half and only because we got lucky! Is that good enough for you? Is it?! We're always one step behind! We act like a bunch of amateurs! How many times are we gonna get beaten before you guys wise up and realize ''this isn't a game?! (storms off)''\\
'''Raphael:''' I hate to admit it, but he ain't wrong.
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* VillainSue: Bishop, due to the sheer ease that he manages to outfight [[EnemyMine the Turtles, Hun & Karai]], his repeated elaborate escapes & the fact that even when he loses, he still wins in the grand scheme of things.
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* FridgeBrilliance: After his defeat in "The Shredder Strikes, Part 2," Shredder makes it a point of going after the Turtles and eliminating them. Seems like common sense and simple revenge, right? But then "Timing is Everything" showed Shredder after his first defeat facing the more-skilled Turtles by way of time travel. He knew they would become more powerful and eventually defeat him (as Raph says), so his motives weren't pure revenge.
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* OnlyTheAuthorCanSaveThemNow: Several times, most notably with the resolution to the Demon Shredder arc.
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* [[MagnificentBastard Magnificent Bastards]]: The Ninja Tribunal.
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** When "Insane In The Membrane" [[NightmareFuel isn't flat-out terrifying you]], it's making you sad when you watch Baxter's past.
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** The entire 2003 series got accused of this by fans of the [[WesternAnimation/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles1987 '80s cartoon]], with complaints that they wished it was more like the "original" series. The irony being that the 2003 series, was far more faithful to the [[ComicBook/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles REAL original Turtles]] of the comics, than the '80s series [[AdaptationDecay ever was]]. FanDumb indeed.
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* BadassDecay: Bishop appears to suffer from this in ''Fast Forward'', but redeems himself in "Day of Awakening."
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* AngstWhatAngst
* EarWorm: The Theme Songs.
* MoralEventHorizon: For the Shredder, this was the episode "Mission of Gravity", where we learned that not only is he willing to kill millions when it serves his purposes, he'd also do so when it wouldn't.
* TheScrappy: Cody Jones is considered this.
* SeasonalRot: By Fast Forward, although some people would place it even earlier.
* TearJerker: A few episodes. Especially ''any'' episodes involving Nano.
** Kirby giving Donatello a sketch of him with a ray gun and final words: ''Don - "Life at best is bitter sweet." Take care of yourself. - Kirby''
* SeasonalRot: By Fast Forward, although some people would place it even earlier.
* TearJerker: A few episodes. Especially ''any'' episodes involving Nano.
** Kirby giving Donatello a sketch of him with a ray gun and final words: ''Don - "Life at best is bitter sweet." Take care of yourself. - Kirby''
* UnfortunateImplications: Starlee's [[SpaceJews Space Jew]] family.
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* TheWoobie: I can't be the ''only'' one who felt sorry for [[{{Nanomachines}} Nano]] in its first couple of appearances. Maybe that's why it [[ThrowTheDogABone got a happy ending]] after all.
** You aren't, this Troper ''still'' cries in Nano's appearances.
** And let's not forget poor Dr. Stockman. This Troper has never felt so bad for a villain until "Adventures in Turtle-Sitting", in which , after being revived again, asks why Bishop doesn't let him rest in peace.
** Donatello, arguably, he's dealt with some of the worst crap in this series, he's been in a LotusEaterMachine where [[spoiler: he's seen Angel die before his eyes]], another where he's in a bad future, where [[spoiler: he sees ''all of his brothers'' and learning all of his best friends have died]], and was turned into a beast, at one point, life is rough on him.
* TheWoobie: I can't be the ''only'' one who felt sorry for [[{{Nanomachines}} Nano]] in its first couple of appearances. Maybe that's why it [[ThrowTheDogABone got a happy ending]] after all.
** You aren't, this Troper ''still'' cries in Nano's appearances.
** And let's not forget poor Dr. Stockman. This Troper has never felt so bad for a villain until "Adventures in Turtle-Sitting", in which , after being revived again, asks why Bishop doesn't let him rest in peace.
** Donatello, arguably, he's dealt with some of the worst crap in this series, he's been in a LotusEaterMachine where [[spoiler: he's seen Angel die before his eyes]], another where he's in a bad future, where [[spoiler: he sees ''all of his brothers'' and learning all of his best friends have died]], and was turned into a beast, at one point, life is rough on him.
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* HilariousInHindsight: In "Exodus", it was promised "[[WhamEpisode One of these characters will never be seen again.]]", and after the episode, Ch'rell is banished to an ice planet, likely never to be seen again... That is, until ''TurtlesForever'', and even earlier than ''that'', in the first ''Back To The Sewers'' episode, and they even planned on an arc involving "The Shredder Wars" had ''Back To The Sewers'' got another season, either way, the promise clearly wasn't kept.
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* ReplacementScrappy: The Demon Shredder [[YourMilageMayVary may]] escape this, thanks to RuleOfCool / RuleOfScary. The Cyber Shredder is a borderline example, being a AI copy of the original with no really distinctive features on his own besides living inside cyberspace.
** He also wasn't as dangerous, [[FridgeBrilliance it was probably due to the fact that he was Shredder Pre-Genre Savvy]], but this doesn't save him.
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* CompleteMonster: The Shredder does some rather horrible things in the series--not only does his backstory indicate that he's responsible for the death of millions, this is actually small change compared to what he attempts in ''TurtlesForever''.
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* CompleteMonster: The Shredder does some rather horrible things in the series--not only does his backstory indicate that he's responsible for the death of millions, this is actually small change compared to what he attempts in ''TurtlesForever''.''TurtlesForever''.
* NightmareFuel: Baxter Stockman, especially the episode "Insane In The Membrane".
** His return in ''Adventures in Turtle-sitting''.
** To say nothing of Shredder's reaction to Stockman's continued failures.
* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: ''Fast Forward'' gets accused of this a lot.
** The entire 2003 series got accused of this by fans of the [[WesternAnimation/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles1987 '80s cartoon]], with complaints that they wished it was more like the "original" series. The irony being that the 2003 series, was far more faithful to the [[ComicBook/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles REAL original Turtles]] of the comics, than the '80s series [[AdaptationDecay ever was]]. FanDumb indeed.
* VillainDecay: Inverted, the Shredder managed to stay a dangerous antagonist, he even ''managed to top himself'' in every evil plan he committed, with the Utrom Shredder being considered the most dangerous of the bunch.
** Hun himself though, seems to play it mostly straight, while he can ''fight'' the Turtles, he gets significantly more pathetic, while later seasons do try to avoid it, he ends up becoming a bigger loser, though, to be fair, in Back To The Sewers, he learned more techniques that allow him to fight the Turtles and even becomes a Crime lord... Doesn't stop them from learning to fight him again, although in TurtlesForever, [[spoiler: he turns into a Turtle Monster, he ends up being so powerful ''that the Turtles can't lay a scratch on him''.]]
** Karai suffers this badly in season 4. From one appearance to the next, she goes from [[spoiler: destroying the turtle's lair, all of their vehicles, and nearly killing 3 out 4 turtles and Splinter]] to playing and losing a rather humiliating game of keep away for a McGuffin against Leo and Mikey, including a sequence where they pick her up and drag her by the legs before throwing her out of an elevator shaft, in a manner more suiting Bebob and Rocksteady.
** The Cyber Shredder, granted, it's the Shredder's data ''before'' Shredder became more and more GenreSavvy, but... His plans constantly fail and get repetitive, even when he [[spoiler: ''does'' get out of Cyberspace]].
* NightmareFuel: Baxter Stockman, especially the episode "Insane In The Membrane".
** His return in ''Adventures in Turtle-sitting''.
** To say nothing of Shredder's reaction to Stockman's continued failures.
* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: ''Fast Forward'' gets accused of this a lot.
** The entire 2003 series got accused of this by fans of the [[WesternAnimation/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles1987 '80s cartoon]], with complaints that they wished it was more like the "original" series. The irony being that the 2003 series, was far more faithful to the [[ComicBook/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles REAL original Turtles]] of the comics, than the '80s series [[AdaptationDecay ever was]]. FanDumb indeed.
* VillainDecay: Inverted, the Shredder managed to stay a dangerous antagonist, he even ''managed to top himself'' in every evil plan he committed, with the Utrom Shredder being considered the most dangerous of the bunch.
** Hun himself though, seems to play it mostly straight, while he can ''fight'' the Turtles, he gets significantly more pathetic, while later seasons do try to avoid it, he ends up becoming a bigger loser, though, to be fair, in Back To The Sewers, he learned more techniques that allow him to fight the Turtles and even becomes a Crime lord... Doesn't stop them from learning to fight him again, although in TurtlesForever, [[spoiler: he turns into a Turtle Monster, he ends up being so powerful ''that the Turtles can't lay a scratch on him''.]]
** Karai suffers this badly in season 4. From one appearance to the next, she goes from [[spoiler: destroying the turtle's lair, all of their vehicles, and nearly killing 3 out 4 turtles and Splinter]] to playing and losing a rather humiliating game of keep away for a McGuffin against Leo and Mikey, including a sequence where they pick her up and drag her by the legs before throwing her out of an elevator shaft, in a manner more suiting Bebob and Rocksteady.
** The Cyber Shredder, granted, it's the Shredder's data ''before'' Shredder became more and more GenreSavvy, but... His plans constantly fail and get repetitive, even when he [[spoiler: ''does'' get out of Cyberspace]].
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