Follow TV Tropes

Following

History YMMV / TeenTitans2003

Go To

OR

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Misuse. Character intended to be unlikable; the scrappy must be hated for reasons unintended by the show.


* TheScrappy: Mento is by far the least liked member of the Doom Patrol, mainly due to his high strict standards and poor treatment of Beast Boy. He's also disliked for his arrogance in refusing to help the Teen Titans fight the Brotherhood of Evil, which would have gotten his entire team and family killed had it not been for the Titans ignoring his orders. When the character somewhat returns in Season 3 of ''WesternAnimation/YoungJustice2010'', he is presented in a considerably less favorable light.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Plainly contradicts itself. If the character is not hated, it's not this trope.


* ReplacementScrappy: Although he wasn't exactly hated, Brother Blood in season 3 wasn't nearly as badass and threatening as his predecessor Slade.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Example does not sufficiently explain how it applies and doesn't follow the rules established in the trope page. Deleting due to likely misuse: Not memes, just catchphrases and funny moments.


* MemeticMutation:
** "Titans, Go!"
** "AZARATH METRION ZINTHOS!"
** "Evil beware, we have waffles."
** "Don't laugh. You have to EAT the unicycle."
** "Of course I do. I'm part robot."[[labelnote:Explanation]] As stated by Cyborg in the episode ''Troq''. During the episode, Starfire is dealing with an alien who is bigotted against her species (calling her Troq, translating to "Nothing" or "Useless"). When Cyborg learns from her that the word is a slur after he calls her it (not realizing what it means), she asks him if he's ever been mistreated because of how he looks. Infamously, he says of course he has, but because he's partially a robot, not because he's black like one might expect him to say. Possibly they went with him being a robot to avoid being too heavy in a show that generally doesn't tackle serious real world issues like racism.[[/labelnote]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
There’s no concrete evidence of Slade being a BBC. Deleting


** Slade. He's either the most compelling and chilling depiction of the character to date, with his reinterpretation as TheChessmaster and ManipulativeBastard who runs on CreepyAwesome, or he's an unfaithful adaptation who completely misses what made the comics character likeable, an antiheroic mercenary and contract killer. There's also the fact of Slade often using [[ActuallyADoombot Sladebots]] rather than fighting his own fights that is another matter of contention.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** For as much of an effect that Trigon had on Raven and her life (for good and for ill), it can feel like something of a disservice for him to only get a passing mention in Season 5. It would have been interesting to have a Raven-centric version of “Haunted” where she has to ponder whether or not her father is truly gone and what kind of influence he may still have on her, ultimately coming to terms with his passing. The Teen Titans Go comics do touch on this briefly though, where it is revealed her greatest fear is that her victory against Trigon may not be permanent, and that she may end up becoming his portal again, or even be fully corrupted by her demonic heritage.

to:

** For as much of an effect that Trigon had on Raven and her life (for good and for ill), it can feel like something of a disservice for him to only get a passing mention in Season 5.5, which is mostly PlayedForLaughs. It would have been interesting to have a Raven-centric version of “Haunted” where she has to ponder whether or not her father is truly gone and what kind of influence he may still have on her, ultimately coming to terms with his passing. The Teen Titans Go comics do touch on this briefly though, where it is revealed her greatest fear is that her victory against Trigon may not be permanent, and that she may end up becoming his portal again, or even be fully corrupted by her demonic heritage.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** Terra's betrayal (aka the Judas Contract). In the comics, Terra was part of the team for ''dozens'' of issues prior to turning on the Titans. In the show? She had just three appearances prior to the episode in which she betrays them: her debut episode, her joining of the team five episodes later, and a non-speaking cameo in the episode after that. While [[WordOfGod Glen Murakami]] explained that it was due to time constraints (she was originally planned to make much more appearances throughout the season to the point she was supposed to be PromotedToOpeningTitles), it is still disappointing that Terra having a significant tenure as a Titan is at best implied through only a voiceless cameo and a single flashback.

to:

** Terra's betrayal (aka the Judas Contract). In the comics, Terra was part of the team for ''dozens'' of issues prior to turning on the Titans. Titans, so her betrayal had more impact. In the show? She had just three appearances prior to the episode in which she betrays them: her debut episode, her joining of the team five episodes later, and a non-speaking cameo in the episode after that.that, which came immediately before her betrayal episode. While [[WordOfGod Glen Murakami]] explained that it was due to time constraints (she was originally planned to make much more appearances throughout the season to the point she was supposed to be PromotedToOpeningTitles), it is still disappointing that Terra having a significant tenure as a Titan is at best implied through only a voiceless cameo and a single flashback.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Trope was cut/disambiguated due to cleanup


* EvilIsSexy:
** Jinx, Rouge, and Blackfire. Additionally, some found [[SixthRangerTraitor Terra]]'s outfit to be sexy when she turned evil. Even ''Slade'' has a reasonably large fangirl following, too! In his case, it's thanks to [[Creator/RonPerlman his voice]].
** Fangirls can also say for Red-X, even though his face was never shown.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Terra's detractors view her this way. She's meant to be seen as a tragic case of a lonely girl who lost her moral compass, and fell victim to Slade's manipulation. However, she only let Slade manipulate her because [[PoorCommunicationKills she misunderstood the Titans' actions]], and not willing to trust them in the same way they trusted her.

to:

* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Terra's detractors view her this way. She's meant to be seen as a tragic case of a lonely girl who lost her moral compass, and fell victim to Slade's manipulation. However, she only let Slade manipulate her because [[PoorCommunicationKills she misunderstood the Titans' actions]], and not wasn't willing to trust them in the same way they trusted her.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* {{Narm}}: The show's committment to NeverSayDie is fine during more goofy episodes, but when the show gets serious the sheer level of talking around the term quickly becomes laughable. "Aftershock" is perhaps the worst example, set after Terra seemingly killed the Titans -- sorry, seemingly "annihilated and destroyed" the Titans.

to:

* {{Narm}}: The show's committment to NeverSayDie is fine during more goofy episodes, but when the show gets serious the sheer level of talking around the term quickly becomes laughable. "Aftershock" is perhaps the worst example, set after with a [[PeoplePuppets body controlled]] Terra seemingly killed the Titans -- sorry, seemingly "annihilated and destroyed" the Titans.tearfully begging Beast Boy to "Destroy me! Quick!"
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* {{Narm}}: The show's committment to NeverSayDie is fine during more goofy episodes, but when the show gets serious the sheer level of talking around the term quickly becomes laughable. "Aftershock" is perhaps the worst example, set after Terra seemingly killed the Titans -- sorry, seemingly "annihilated and destroyed" the Titans.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Shipping Goggles TRS cleanup, out-of-universe examples are to be removed as it's now just Fan Speak (only wicks in descriptions).


* ShippingGoggles: The show was the definitive starting point of many Beast Boy/Raven shippers, despite the show itself having no real intention of pairing Beast Boy and Raven romantically, shippers got their senses tingling through only a few episodes where both of them have their kind of opposites-attract-friendship on focus, such as ''The Beast Within'' and ''Hide and Seek''. This fan reaction proved itself to be very well received by DC over the years however, as Beast Boy and Raven went on to be properly paired together in several ways following the original show's run.

Added: 515

Changed: 1503

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* FranchiseOriginalSin: The show is often credited for Starfire's whitewashed portrayal in subsequent media. Prior to the show, despite being an alien, Starfire was drawn with AmbiguouslyBrown features (most notably, her curly hair), giving [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything another]] [[{{Subtext}} layer]] to her DarkAndTroubledPast of being captured and enslaved (which included implied sex slavery). However, the show would then portray Starfire as an [[{{Mukokuseki}} orange anime girl with straight hair]] while also making her outfit and backstory TamerAndChaster. Since then, many of Starfire's portrayals have been closer to the cartoon [[AudienceColoringAdaptation due to its impact on pop culture]].
** Although this attitude itself has fallen under criticism due to the fact that Starfire is an alien, and the implications of claiming minorities are another species speak for themselves, as well as the fact that her backstory being made lighter was solely due to the show being aimed at children.

to:

* FranchiseOriginalSin: FranchiseOriginalSin:
**
The show is often credited for Starfire's whitewashed portrayal in subsequent media. Prior to the show, despite being an alien, Starfire was drawn with AmbiguouslyBrown features (most notably, her curly hair), giving [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything another]] [[{{Subtext}} layer]] to her DarkAndTroubledPast of being captured and enslaved (which included implied sex slavery). However, the show would then portray Starfire as an [[{{Mukokuseki}} orange anime girl with straight hair]] while also making her outfit and backstory TamerAndChaster. Since then, many of Starfire's portrayals have been closer to the cartoon [[AudienceColoringAdaptation due to its impact on pop culture]].
** *** Although this attitude itself has fallen under criticism due to the fact that Starfire is an alien, and the implications of claiming minorities are another species speak for themselves, as well as the fact that her backstory being made lighter was solely due to the show being aimed at children.children.
** This show has a noticeably more comedic tone than preceding DC animated shows, which didn't hurt its reception, but did lay the groundwork for ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitansGo'', which did trigger notable backlash.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Updating Links


** It's not uncommon to find ''Teen Titans'' crossover pairings, especially ones with Raven. Some the most popular ''Teen Titans'' crossovers are Terra×WesternAnimation/Ben10, Raven×Franchise/SpiderMan, Starfire×Franchise/SpiderMan, Raven×WesternAnimation/DannyPhantom, Raven×[[WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender Zuko]], Raven×WesternAnimation/Ben10, and [[WesternAnimation/{{Hercules}} Megara]]×Speedy.

to:

** It's not uncommon to find ''Teen Titans'' crossover pairings, especially ones with Raven. Some the most popular ''Teen Titans'' crossovers are Terra×WesternAnimation/Ben10, Raven×Franchise/SpiderMan, Starfire×Franchise/SpiderMan, Raven×ComicBook/SpiderMan, Starfire×ComicBook/SpiderMan, Raven×WesternAnimation/DannyPhantom, Raven×[[WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender Zuko]], Raven×WesternAnimation/Ben10, and [[WesternAnimation/{{Hercules}} Megara]]×Speedy.



*** Especially since the ComicBook/DoomPatrol episodes give them the perfect [[Franchise/{{Batman}} common ground.]] The closest we see of them coming together is when they team up to individually take out Brain and Monsieur Mallah in the penultimate episode of the series.

to:

*** Especially since the ComicBook/DoomPatrol episodes give them the perfect [[Franchise/{{Batman}} [[ComicBook/{{Batman}} common ground.]] The closest we see of them coming together is when they team up to individually take out Brain and Monsieur Mallah in the penultimate episode of the series.

Added: 227

Removed: 224

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Renamed one trope.


* QuestionableCasting: They got Creator/TonyJay for one episode, so you think he plays a menacing villain or some kind of badass. Nope, he ''narrates'' it fairy tale-style, so he doesn't even get to interact with any character.



* WTHCastingAgency: They got Creator/TonyJay for one episode, so you think he plays a menacing villain or some kind of badass. Nope, he ''narrates'' it fairy tale-style, so he doesn't even get to interact with any character.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Disambiguation


** Also, the use of Dr. Light in the series, if you know [[MoralEventHorizon the things he did]] [[ComicBook/IdentityCrisis2004 elsewhere...]] Also counts as a ContinuityNod Because [[spoiler:in ''ComicBook/IdentityCrisis'' they partially damaged his brain in the process of the mind wipe, making him even weaker than he originally was]].

to:

** Also, the use of Dr. Light in the series, if you know [[MoralEventHorizon the things he did]] [[ComicBook/IdentityCrisis2004 elsewhere...]] Also counts as a ContinuityNod Because [[spoiler:in ''ComicBook/IdentityCrisis'' ''ComicBook/IdentityCrisis2004'' they partially damaged his brain in the process of the mind wipe, making him even weaker than he originally was]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
remove green link


** Also, the use of Dr. Light in the series, if you know [[MoralEventHorizon the things he did]] [[ComicBook/IdentityCrisis elsewhere...]] Also counts as a ContinuityNod Because [[spoiler:in ''ComicBook/IdentityCrisis'' they partially damaged his brain in the process of the mind wipe, making him even weaker than he originally was]].

to:

** Also, the use of Dr. Light in the series, if you know [[MoralEventHorizon the things he did]] [[ComicBook/IdentityCrisis [[ComicBook/IdentityCrisis2004 elsewhere...]] Also counts as a ContinuityNod Because [[spoiler:in ''ComicBook/IdentityCrisis'' they partially damaged his brain in the process of the mind wipe, making him even weaker than he originally was]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Changed: 7

Removed: 743

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
That note isn't really making Robin look more "right", if anything it gives Starfire's more criticisms more weight


** The [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yL75mtNZ6PA opening theme]], a catchy, surf-rock inspired number performed by J-Rock duo Puffy AmiYumi.

to:

** The [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yL75mtNZ6PA opening theme]], a catchy, surf-rock inspired number performed by J-Rock duo Puffy AmiYumi.Music/PuffyAmiYumi.



** Starfire criticizes Robin at the end of "Masks" for pretending to be the villain Red X and deceiving his teammates in order to fool Slade. She's portrayed as being in the right. However, Robin makes a good point when you think about it; had they known he was Red X, they almost certainly wouldn't have attacked him convincingly and his cover could have been blown easily. (Of course, Slade knew the entire time who Red X was, but Robin's point still stands.) [[note]] Of course, that's not to say Robin should've pulled that stunt to begin with, (which he shouldn't of) and the Titans actually have every right to be mad at him for attacking them and betraying their trust. Not to mention the stunt itself was ''beyond'' reckless [[/note]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** Starfire criticizes Robin at the end of "Masks" for pretending to be the villain Red X and deceiving his teammates in order to fool Slade. She's portrayed as being in the right. However, Robin makes a good point when you think about it; had they known he was Red X, they almost certainly wouldn't have attacked him convincingly and his cover could have been blown easily. (Of course, Slade knew the entire time who Red X was, but Robin's point still stands.) [[note]] Of course, that's not to say Robin should've pulled that stunt to begin with, (which he shouldn't of) and the Titans actually have every right to be mad at him for attacking them and betraying their trust. Not to mention the stunt itself was ''beyond'' reckless [[/note].

to:

** Starfire criticizes Robin at the end of "Masks" for pretending to be the villain Red X and deceiving his teammates in order to fool Slade. She's portrayed as being in the right. However, Robin makes a good point when you think about it; had they known he was Red X, they almost certainly wouldn't have attacked him convincingly and his cover could have been blown easily. (Of course, Slade knew the entire time who Red X was, but Robin's point still stands.) [[note]] Of course, that's not to say Robin should've pulled that stunt to begin with, (which he shouldn't of) and the Titans actually have every right to be mad at him for attacking them and betraying their trust. Not to mention the stunt itself was ''beyond'' reckless [[/note].[[/note]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
If anyone knows how to make the note small, please do so because I don't know how.


** Starfire criticizes Robin at the end of "Masks" for pretending to be the villain Red X and deceiving his teammates in order to fool Slade. She's portrayed as being in the right. However, Robin makes a good point when you think about it; had they known he was Red X, they almost certainly wouldn't have attacked him convincingly and his cover could have been blown easily. (Of course, Slade knew the entire time who Red X was, but Robin's point still stands.) [[note]] Of course, that's not to say Robin should've pulled that stunt to begin with, (which he shouldn't of) and the Titans actually have every right to be mad at him for attacking them and betraying their trust. Not to mention the stunt itself was ''beyond'' reckless [[/note]

to:

** Starfire criticizes Robin at the end of "Masks" for pretending to be the villain Red X and deceiving his teammates in order to fool Slade. She's portrayed as being in the right. However, Robin makes a good point when you think about it; had they known he was Red X, they almost certainly wouldn't have attacked him convincingly and his cover could have been blown easily. (Of course, Slade knew the entire time who Red X was, but Robin's point still stands.) [[note]] Of course, that's not to say Robin should've pulled that stunt to begin with, (which he shouldn't of) and the Titans actually have every right to be mad at him for attacking them and betraying their trust. Not to mention the stunt itself was ''beyond'' reckless [[/note][[/note].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** Starfire criticizes Robin at the end of "Masks" for pretending to be the villain Red X and deceiving his teammates in order to fool Slade. She's portrayed as being in the right. However, Robin makes a good point when you think about it; had they known he was Red X, they almost certainly wouldn't have attacked him convincingly and his cover could have been blown easily. (Of course, Slade knew the entire time who Red X was, but Robin's point still stands.) ,[[note]] Of course, that's not to say Robin should've pulled that stunt to begin with, (which he shouldn't of) and the Titans actually have every right to be mad at him for attacking them and betraying their trust. Not to mention the stunt itself was ''beyond'' reckless.

to:

** Starfire criticizes Robin at the end of "Masks" for pretending to be the villain Red X and deceiving his teammates in order to fool Slade. She's portrayed as being in the right. However, Robin makes a good point when you think about it; had they known he was Red X, they almost certainly wouldn't have attacked him convincingly and his cover could have been blown easily. (Of course, Slade knew the entire time who Red X was, but Robin's point still stands.) ,[[note]] [[note]] Of course, that's not to say Robin should've pulled that stunt to begin with, (which he shouldn't of) and the Titans actually have every right to be mad at him for attacking them and betraying their trust. Not to mention the stunt itself was ''beyond'' reckless.reckless [[/note]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** Starfire criticizes Robin at the end of "Masks" for pretending to be the villain Red X and deceiving his teammates in order to fool Slade. She's portrayed as being in the right. However, Robin makes a good point when you think about it; had they known he was Red X, they almost certainly wouldn't have attacked him convincingly and his cover could have been blown easily. (Of course, Slade knew the entire time who Red X was, but Robin's point still stands.)

to:

** Starfire criticizes Robin at the end of "Masks" for pretending to be the villain Red X and deceiving his teammates in order to fool Slade. She's portrayed as being in the right. However, Robin makes a good point when you think about it; had they known he was Red X, they almost certainly wouldn't have attacked him convincingly and his cover could have been blown easily. (Of course, Slade knew the entire time who Red X was, but Robin's point still stands.)) ,[[note]] Of course, that's not to say Robin should've pulled that stunt to begin with, (which he shouldn't of) and the Titans actually have every right to be mad at him for attacking them and betraying their trust. Not to mention the stunt itself was ''beyond'' reckless.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Per TRS.


* WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs:
** Any episode with Mad Mod and ''Employee of the Month'', [[spoiler:where the VillainOfTheWeek was a cube of alien tofu that was stealing cows to fuel his starship and wanted to blow up Earth after he had enough cows]].
** And then there's Larry... Having Larry interrupt the theme song tends to be the writers' way of pre-lampshading this.
* WidgetSeries: Whenever the theme song is in Japanese, the episode ''will'' be a Weird Humorous American Thing.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* FriendlyFandoms: It gained one with ''WesternAnimation/TheSuperMarioBrosMovie'' in 2023, as all the Titans' voice actors have roles in that movie as supporting characters.

to:

* FriendlyFandoms: It gained one an acquaintance with ''WesternAnimation/TheSuperMarioBrosMovie'' in 2023, as all the Titans' voice actors have roles in that movie as supporting characters.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* FriendlyFandoms: It gained one with ''WesternAnimation/TheSuperMarioBrosMovie'' in 2023, as all the Titans' voice actors have roles in that movie as supporting characters.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

** This series presents Terra is presented as a {{Foil}} towards Raven, who is voiced by Creator/TaraStrong. Strong would later voice Terra herself in ''WesternAnimation/YoungJustice2010''.

Added: 141

Changed: 16

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** Did Cyborg really develop a crush on Jinx when he infiltrated the Hive Academy? Or was Bumblebee just saying he did to get under his skin?



* MexicansLoveSpeedyGonzales: EvilBrit Mad Mod has a good deal of fans from Britain, despite being an embodiment of every British stereotype you can think of i.e. he has wonky BritishTeeth, he's a fan of Monty Python and The Beatles and hates the "yanks" enough to try and cancel Independence Day!

to:

* MexicansLoveSpeedyGonzales: EvilBrit Mad Mod has a good deal of fans from Britain, despite being an embodiment of every British stereotype you can think of i.e. he has wonky BritishTeeth, he's a fan of Monty Python Creator/MontyPython and The Beatles Music/TheBeatles and hates the "yanks" enough to try and cancel Independence Day!
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* MexicansLoveSpeedyGonzales: EvilBrit Mad Mod has a good deal of fans from Britain, despite being an embodiment of every British stereotype you can think of i.e. he has wonky BritishTeeth, he's a fan of Monty Python and The Beatles and hates the "yanks" enough to try and cancel Independence Day!
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* AudienceAlienatingEnding: The final episode of the show, "Things Change", has Beast Boy find what appears to be an amnesiac Terra BackFromTheDead, only to have an attack by the MonsterOfTheWeek prevent Beast Boy from gaining [[UnexplainedRecovery any kind of explanation as to how she's back]]. The series also ends without revealing if Terra's amnesia was genuine, or if Beast Boy even encountered the real Terra. Needless to say, not many were happy with the lack of closure, and WordOfGod explaining the episode was written with the knowledge there wouldn't be a sixth season, instead wanting an AmbiguousEnding, did little to quell fan complaints. As a result, it's common for fans to treat the preceding episode "Titans Together" or the Trouble in Tokyo movie as the actual finale, and pretend that "Things Change" doesn't exist.

Top