History YMMV / Team8

* CriticalResearchFailure:
** In chapter 4, Naruto has been assigned by Kurenai the "basic" water-walking exercise, while Hinata and Shino are already on the tree-climbing exercise. In canon, it is clearly shown that the former is the more advanced chakra control exercise, as it requires expelling chakra and not just gathering it, and is taken ''after'' the tree-climbing exercise.
** In chapter 21 (and in chapter 12 in reference to chapter 4), the Transformation Technique is classified as a genjutsu. In canon, it is a ninjutsu, not a genjutsu.

** Naruto's fight with Neji. Naruto seems to be losing for most of the fight and only wins at the end by drawing on the Nine-Tails. In light of the preaching about destiny and hard work, many fans saw this as a BrokenAesop altogether. In ''Team 8'', Naruto battles with various specialized tactics that he had to work for, [[spoiler:only drawing on the Nine-Tails' chakra for an ostensible final blow]], and the fight in general is less {{Anvilicious}} about hard work and fate, focusing more on [[ItsPersonal the personal stakes involving Hinata]].

** Naruto's fight with Neji is broadly considered a weaker aspect of canon. Naruto seems to be losing for most of the fight and only wins at the end by drawing on the Nine-Tails. In light of the preaching about destiny and hard work, many fans saw this as a BrokenAesop altogether. In ''Team 8'', Naruto battles with various specialized tactics that he had to work for, [[spoiler:only drawing on the Nine-Tails' chakra for an ostensible final blow]], and the fight in general is less {{Anvilicious}} about hard work and fate, focusing more on [[ItsPersonal the personal stakes involving Hinata]].

** [[AbusiveParents Hiashi]] does this [[spoiler:when he disguises a training session with Hinata to beat her. The rest of the cast is visibly disturbed when they find Hinata battered and bruised, starving, and unable to stand because she hadn't slept at all]]. If Kurenai's [[spoiler:post-death letter]] is any indication, Hiashi may also be the one pulling the strings on the incident that [[spoiler:killed her former teammates]] after it was revealed that Kurenai's best friend [[spoiler:had the Byakugan despite not being a Hyuuga and refused to join the Branch Family and submit to their treatment of them, which would include getting a Curse Mark]].

** Sasuke acts a bit more coldly than in canon. The most striking instance is in his preliminary match with Naruto, where he insults Hinata to Naruto's face, when she was just hospitalized from her fight. While this is admitted to be a valid ([[GoneHorriblyWrong if misapplied]]) psychological tactic, other characters still note that it was a pretty callous move. In canon, Sasuke could be rude and abrasive, but he was more aloof and uncaring than he was actively hostile.

** Sasuke acts a bit more coldly than in canon. The most striking instance is in his preliminary match with Naruto, where he insults Hinata to Naruto's face, when she was just hospitalized from her fight. While this is admitted to be a valid psychological tactic, other characters still note that it was a pretty callous move. In canon, Sasuke could be rude and abrasive, but he was more aloof and uncaring than he was actively hostile.

* WhatAnIdiot:
** Discussed many times in-story, with regards to the villagers that seem hell-bent on denigrating Naruto. ''That's right, be mean to the kid you KNOW has [[EldritchAbomination a powerful, nigh-unbeatable demon]] [[SealedInAPersonShapedCan sealed in his stomach]]. [[TooDumbToLive That'll teach 'em]]!''
** [[spoiler:Sasuke]] has a moment as well: ''Yup, make fun of Hinata, [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown right after she got beaten within an inch of her life]]. Piss off her [[TrueCompanions teammate]], the guy who helped you fight [[spoiler:Orochimaru]], and [[BullyingADragon actually fared better than you did]]. This will [[SarcasmMode totally]] [[CurbStompBattle end]] [[IHitYouYouHitTheGround well]].''

** Did the author's decision to keep the story on its original trajectory, with [[spoiler:Itachi being the one to kill Kurenai]], date the fic since [[spoiler:in canon, Itachi was working for Konoha the whole time,]] or did it make for a more original and interesting story that averts a canonical ShockingSwerve?

* BaseBreakingCharacter: Kurenai. A large portion of the fanbase likes her for being a more involved teacher for Naruto than Kakashi was in canon, and not only doing more to help him refine his jutsus and learn what it means to be a shinobi, but also deal with the emotional side of being a ninja, and essentially being a mother figure to him and Hinata. Others, however, are more critical of certain aspects, like [[CharacterShilling other characters repeatedly talking about how she's such a great teacher]], her [[BlackAndWhiteMorality almost always being right]] when she tells off other characters for their mistakes, and her being portrayed as the more competent Jounin instructor out of the three for the Rookie 9, even when it doesn't seem to make sense for her to be. [[AuthorsSavingThrow The writer might have picked up on this in Chapter 24]], where Iruka tells Naruto that Kurenai may [[spoiler:have]] be[[spoiler:en]] a good teacher, but that doesn't mean she was always right.

* FamilyUnfriendlyAesop: Some of Kurenai's lessons are quite harsh, such as teaching Naruto that some people will simply ''never'' accept him, regardless of what he does.

* {{Fanon}}: Various aspects of the story are based on fanon ideas, such as a powerful and nefarious village council and intentional abuse and mistraining of Naruto.

* ArtisticLicense: Not inside the story itself, but regarding its relationship with canon. [[WordOfGod The author]] has mentioned that, since he outlined most of the plot since the beginning, the story will not conform to the way things turned out to work in canon, and that the fanfic will stop actively following canon events after a certain point. Despite this, the author ''has'' included elements that showed up later in canon, including Fukasaku, A, and Killer Bee.
** The portrayal of a certain villain ([[spoiler:Itachi]]) is different from how he turned out to be in canon ([[spoiler:that is, GoodAllAlong, [[OmniscientMoralityLicense for a certain value of good]].]]) The fanfic was first published in 2006, prior to the manga's certain revelations regarding said villain.
** In canon, Itachi states that Tsukuyomi can only be broken by another Uchiha Sharingan user. In this fic, [[spoiler:Kurenai is able to break it. It is {{Lampshaded}} in the following chapter that she was able to dispel an allegedly "unbreakable" genjutsu.]]

** [[spoiler:Kurenai's death]] in chapter [[spoiler:20]].

* BaseBreakingCharacter: Kurenai. A large portion of the fanbase likes her for being a more involved teacher for Naruto than Kakashi was in canon, and not only doing more to help him refine his jutsus and learn what it means to be a shinobi, but also deal with the emotional side of being a ninja, and essentially being a mother figure to him and Hinata. Others, however, are more critical of certain aspects, like [[CharacterShilling other characters repeatedly talking about how she's such a great teacher]], her [[BlackAndWhiteMorality almost always being right]] when she tells off other characters for their mistakes, and her being portrayed as the more competent Jounin instructor out of the three for the Rookie 9, even when it doesn't seem to make sense for her to be. [[AuthorsSavingThrow The writer might have picked up on this in Chapter 24]], where Iruka tells Naruto that Kurenai may [[spoiler:have been]] a good teacher, but that doesn't mean she was always right.

** Did the author's decision to keep the story on its original trajectory, with [[spoiler:Itachi being the one to kill Kurenai,]] date the fic since [[spoiler:in canon, Itachi was working for Konoha the whole time,]] or did it make for a more original and interesting story that averts a canonical ShockingSwerve?

** Like Itachi? You won't in this story, not after [[spoiler:he kills Kurenai.]]
** [[AbusiveParents Hiashi]] does this [[spoiler: when he disguises a training session with Hinata to beat her. The rest of the cast is visibly disturbed when they find Hinata battered and bruised, starving, and unable to stand because she hadn't slept at all.]] If Kurenai's [[spoiler: post-death letter]] is any indication, Hiashi may also be the one pulling the strings on the incident that [[spoiler: killed her former teammates]] after it was revealed that Kurenai's best friend [[spoiler:had the Byakugan despite not being a Hyuuga and refused to join the Branch Family and submit to their treatment of them, which would include getting a Curse Mark.]]

* TooCoolToLive: Officially [[spoiler:Kurenai]], who died after [[spoiler:''breaking Tsukuyomi'']]. [[spoiler:''With FridgeLogic of all things. Namely, realizing that the scenario Itachi puts her through makes no sense, and deliberately running with the correction.'']]

** Naruto's fight with Neji is broadly considered a weaker aspect of canon. Naruto seems to be losing for most of the fight and only wins at the end by drawing on the Nine-Tails. Given the preaching about destiny and hard work, many fans saw this as a BrokenAesop altogether. In ''Team 8'', Naruto battles with various specialized tactics that he had to work for, [[spoiler:only drawing on the Nine-Tails' chakra for an ostensible final blow]], and the fight in general is less {{Anvilicious}} about hard work and fate, focusing more on [[ItsPersonal the personal stakes involving Hinata]].

** In this series, the entire Main Branch Hyuuga clan are in general much worse than they are in canon. Hiashi's cold exterior is more than a case of [[TheChainsOfCommanding acting as his station dictates]]; he's just an abusive ''dick''. He is abusive beyond just strictness to Hinata, and even his canon PetTheDog moment of begging for Neji's forgiveness after telling him the truth about Hizashi's death is replaced by a KickTheDog moment in which he [[YouHaveFailedMe only cares that Neji has lost]]; the only thing Hiashi is interested in is seeing him punished for "disgracing the clan." Similarly, Hanabi is quite dismissive of Hinata and [[UngratefulBastard completely unappreciative of Hinata helping to rescue her]]. According to WordOfGod, the [[ForWantOfANail original divergent event]] that lead to the events of the story is what supposedly caused the change in the Hyuuga clan, but that cause has not been revealed thus far.
--->''What good did it do? What good did it do when her father berated her over and over for every mistake? What good did it do when he reminded her of her failures before every match with her sister? What good did it do to make sure she was always aware of what a failure she was?\\
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No good at all.\\
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[[DrivingQuestion Then why did he do it?]]''
** To a lesser extent, Sakura more readily bad-mouths Naruto than in canon. This is due to them not being on the same team, and so not having the same ties as in canon, but her flaws are presented in a worse light here, and Naruto (and later Sakura herself) are more critical of her shortcomings than in canon.
** Sasuke acts a bit more coldly than in canon. The most striking instance is in his preliminary match with Naruto, where he insults Hinata to Naruto's face, when she was just hospitalized from her fight. While this is admitted to be a valid psychological tactic, other characters still note that it was a pretty callous move. In canon, Sasuke is seemingly indifferent to Hinata, and the pair has ''never'' interacted over the course of the manga despite their close ties to Naruto.

** Shino asks what sort of flowers would be appropriate for Neji's funeral. Not only does Neji [[spoiler:die in the main series]], but a scene in the DistantFinale sees [[spoiler:Naruto and Hinata's daughter leave sunflowers at his grave]].

** Sasuke acts a bit more coldly than in canon. The most striking instance is in his preliminary match with Naruto, where he insults Hinata to Naruto's face, when she was just hospitalized from her fight. While this is admitted to be a valid psychological tactic, other characters still note that it was a pretty callous move.

** Kurenai, given what we've learned so far about her backstory, qualifies bigtime.

** In chapter 21 (and possibly earlier in chapter 4), the Transformation Technique is classified as a genjutsu. In canon, it is a ninjutsu, not a genjutsu.

* {{Fanon}}: Various aspects of the story are based on fanon ideas such as an extremely powerful village council and intentional abuse and mistraining of Naruto.

* CompleteMonster: The author's interpretation of Itachi Uchiha, based on the time in canon when he seemingly had no redeeming qualities to speak of. Unlike canon, he committed the Uchiha Massacre simply to test himself (as he originally claimed), but in-story his complete LackOfEmpathy makes him one of the most deplorable individuals. In particular, when he crosses the MoralEventHorizon even further by [[spoiler:killing Kurenai]] (showing absolutely no remorse or even emotion at having done so), his partner Kisame Hoshigaki - himself a renowned BloodKnight - is [[EvenEvilHasStandards freaked out and disturbed by it]].

* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Sakura Haruno was TheScrappy for large portions of the canon, and [[LoveMartyr her love for Sasuke Uchiha]] was [[StrangledByTheRedString often regarded poorly]]. In ''Team 8'', although Sakura starts out hostile to the heroes, after overhearing Naruto criticizing her faults, she resolves to do better. While she still retains a {{Tsundere}} side and her crush on Sasuke, she makes an effort to be kinder, and also looks at her attraction to Sasuke more objectively. Also, she [[spoiler:[[Awesome/Team8 impales the head of a giant snake.]]]]

** Somewhat related to the above, Naruto's fight with Sasuke in the Chunin Exams, in which [[spoiler:Naruto takes out Sasuke with ''[[CurbStompBattle one punch]]'',]] is somewhat controversial. Is it a CrowningMomentOfAwesome for Naruto or [[AntiClimaxBoss terribly anticlimactic]]? WordOfGod mentions a few reasons why Sasuke lost; including him being weakened from having the cursed seal dealt with, Naruto having spent the last few months going toe-to-toe with Lee (who beat Sasuke in canon), and Sasuke implying that [[BerserkButton Hinata's loss to Neji was because she was weak]]. While some find this convincing, others still don't believe that the fight would have been as one-sided as it was.

** In chapter 21 (and possibly earlier in chapter 4), the Transformation Technique is called a genjutsu. In canon, it is a ninjutsu, not a genjutsu.

** In chapter 21 (and possibly earlier in chapter 4), the Transformation Technique is treated as a genjutsu, [[spoiler:and so can be dispelled by Naruto's chakra pulse]]. In canon, it is a ninjutsu, not a genjutsu.

* FanonDiscontinuity: Not inside the story itself, but regarding its relationship with canon. [[WordOfGod The author]] has mentioned that, since he outlined most of the plot since the beginning, the story will not conform to the way things turned out to work in canon, and that the fanfic will stop actively following canon events after a certain point. Despite this, the author ''has'' included elements that showed up later in canon, including Fukasaku, A, and Killer Bee.
** The portrayal of a certain villain ([[spoiler:Itachi]]) is different from how he turned out to be in canon ([[spoiler:that is, GoodAllAlong, [[OmniscientMoralityLicense for a certain value of good]].]]) The fanfic was first published in 2006, prior to the manga's certain revelations regarding said villain.
** In canon, Itachi states that Tsukuyomi can only be broken by another Uchiha Sharingan user. In this fic, [[spoiler:Kurenai is able to break it. It is {{Lampshaded}} in the following chapter that she was able to dispel an allegedly "unbreakable" genjutsu.]]

** Did the author's decision to keep the story on its original trajectory, with [[spoiler:Itachi being the one to kill Kurenai,]] date the fic since [[spoiler:in canon, Itachi was working for Konoha the whole time,]] or did the author's choice to continue with their original plot despite canon changes allow them to create a more original and interesting story that averts a canonical ShockingSwerve?

** Some are also divided over [[spoiler:killing off Kurenai]]. Was it a [[TearJerker powerful emotional moment]], or was it done too early on, [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot eliminating possible story and character developments]]? Additionally, was [[spoiler:the cause of her death--a kunai to the head]] realistic and shocking, or anticlimactic? Furthermore, did the author's decision to keep the story on its original trajectory, with [[spoiler:Itachi being the one to kill Kurenai,]] date the fic since [[spoiler:in canon, Itachi was working for Konoha the whole time,]] or did the author's choice to continue with their original plot despite canon changes allow them to create a more original and interesting story that averts a canonical ShockingSwerve?