YMMV / Team 8

  • Acceptable Targets: Except for Hinata, all of the Main Branch Hyuuga are assholes and so a lot of petty misfortune goes to their way.
  • Accidental Innuendo:
    Naruto: Hinata, could you use your eyes to check me out?
  • Base-Breaking Character: Kurenai. A large portion of the fanbase likes her for being a more involved teacher for Naruto than Kakashi was in canon, and not only doing more to help him refine his jutsus and learn what it means to be a shinobi, but also deal with the emotional aspect of being a ninja, and essentially being a mother figure to him and Hinata. Others, however, are more critical of her, whether characters talking about how she's such a great teacher, her almost always being right while she tells off other characters for their mistakes, and her being portrayed as the only competent Jounin instructor, even when it might not make sense for her to be.
  • Broken Base:
    • The fic itself has a lot of fans but it also has a good deal of people who either outright hate it, or don't think it's as great as hyped. Much of this comes from how Alternate Character Interpretation is used, particularly when it comes to making some characters more antagonistic than in canon (mostly the Hyuuga clan); as anyone who's read Harry Potter and the Nightmares of Futures Past might have observed, the author seems to have a preference for the "Black" end of the spectrum when it comes to villains, to near-Stupid Evil levels. While some of this is apparently justified by the For Want of a Nail, some readers feel these characters strain credibility.
    • Some reviewers are also divided over killing off Kurenai. Was it a powerful emotional moment, or was it done too early on, eliminating possible story and character developments? Additionally, was the cause of her death- a kunai to the head realistic and shocking, or anticlimactic? Furthermore, did the author's decision to keep the story on it's original trajectory, with Itachi being the one to kill Kurenai, date the fic since in cannon, Itachi was working for Konoha the whole time, or did the author's choice to continue with their original plot despite cannon changes allow them to create something new, interesting, and entirely theirs?
    • As with many Naruto fanfics, readers are also divided on any increase of Naruto's powers or competence, due to concerns that it unbalances the power levels of the setting.
    • Somewhat related to the above, Naruto's fight with Sasuke in the Chunin Exams, in which Naruto takes out Sasuke with one punch, is somewhat controversial. Is it a Crowning Moment of Awesome for Naruto or terribly anticlimactic? Word of God mentions a few reasons why Sasuke lost; including him being weakened from having the cursed seal dealt with, Naruto having spent the last few months going toe-to-toe with Lee (who beat Sasuke in canon), and Sasuke implying that Hinata's loss to Neji was because she was weak, but while some find this convincing, others argue that Sasuke would have lost anyway, but don't believe that the fight would have been as one-sided as it was.
  • Complete Monster: The author's interpretation of Itachi Uchiha, based on the time in canon when he seemingly had no redeeming qualities to speak of. Unlike canon, he committed the Uchiha Massacre simply to test himself (as he originally claimed), but in-story his complete Lack of Empathy makes him one of the most deplorable individuals. In particular, when he crosses the Moral Event Horizon even further by killing Kurenai (showing absolutely no remorse or even emotion at having done so), his partner Kisame Hoshigaki - himself a renowned Blood Knight - is freaked out and disturbed by it.
  • Family-Unfriendly Aesop: Some of Kurenai's lessons are quite harsh, such as teaching Naruto that some people will simply never accept him, regardless of what he does.
  • Fanon: Much of the story is based on fanon theories such as an extremely powerful village council and intentional abuse and mistraining of Naruto. However, unlike their common use in fanon, they are very fleshed out and the consequences of such things even occurring are explored in full.
  • Fanon Discontinuity: Not inside the story itself, but regarding its relationship with canon.
    • Two aspects of the fanfic that are not related to the nail don't match the way they appear in the original series. Specifically: The use of elemental jutsus in chapter 6 is inaccurate, and the portrayal of a certain villain ( Itachi) is very different from how he turned out to be in canon ( that is, Good All Along, for a certain value of good.) Nevertheless, this fanfic was first published in 2006, prior to the manga explaining how elemental jutsu actually worked, as well as prior to certain revelations regarding said villain. On that regard, the author has mentioned that, since he outlined most of the plot since the beginning, the story will not conform to the way things turned out to work in canon, and that the fanfic will stop actively following canon events after a certain point.
    • And of course, Tsukuyomi works differently in canon.
  • Fridge Horror: Kurenai, with a letter addressed to Naruto in the event of her death, spells out Hinata's feelings for Naruto. Imagine how he would have taken it if Hinata had died before Naruto learned this.
  • "Funny Aneurysm" Moment: Kurenai makes lots of sarcastic remarks regarding early retirement and death. Chapter 20 makes most of them not funny anymore.
  • Harsher in Hindsight: Shino asks what sort of flowers would be appropriate for Neji's funeral. Not only does Neji die in the main series, but a scene in the Distant Finale sees Naruto and Hinata's daughter leave sunflowers at his grave.
    • Minato and Kushina's deaths are also this given how much they sacrificed for Konoha only to have their son be isolated to the point of not understanding what love is. Excuse me, there's something in my eye.
  • Hype Backlash: For the same reasons as Harry Potter and the Nightmares of Futures Past. Quite simply, it's a very popular fic with an avid fanbase, but some readers will likely find themselves turned off by the story, particularly some of the changes the author makes to canon.
  • Moral Event Horizon:
    • Like Itachi? You won't in this story, not after he kills Kurenai.
    • Hiashi does this when he disguises a training session with Hinata to beat her. The rest of the cast is visibly disturbed when they find Hinata battered and bruised, starving, and unable to stand because she hadn't slept at all. If Kurenai's post-death letter is any indication, Hiashi may also be the one pulling the strings on the incident that killed her former teammates after it was revealed that Kurenai's best friend had the Byakugan despite not being a Hyuuga and refused to join the Branch Family and submit to their treatment of them, which would include getting a Curse Mark.
  • Ron the Death Eater:
    • In this series, Hiashi's cold exterior is more than a case of acting as his station dictates; he's just an abusive dick. Even his biggest Pet the Dog moment from canon (bowing down on his knees to beg for Neji's forgiveness after telling him the truth about Hizashi's death) is replaced by a Kick the Dog moment instead in which he only cares that Neji has lost (despite Neji ending up far more badly injured from his fight with Naruto than he did in canon, the only thing Hiashi is interested in is seeing him punished for "disgracing the clan"). By Word of God, something happened to Hiashi related to the incident with Mattai, which might explain this behavior, but since that has not been revealed in the fic yet, he still comes off as slightly over-the-top.
    • Similarly, Hanabi is also quite dismissive of Hinata, a common characterization of her despite appearing in only a few scenes.
    • This also extends to the entire Main Branch Hyuga clan, who are in general much, much worse than they are in canon.
    • To a somewhat lesser extent, Sakura is much more of a jerk than in canon and much more readily badmouths Naruto. Granted, some of this is due to them not being on the same team, but Naruto and Sakura herself seem to be noticeably harsher on her shortcomings than they are in canon.
  • Schedule Slip:
    • Until it was updated on September 6, 2013, the fic went for about two years without being updated. Said update was the most recent one, meaning that it's undergoing another long gap between updates.
    • Updated as of March 6, 2015. The author states that he intends to update more frequently. Time will tell how much so. Another update did follow after less than two months, on April 23, 2015, but since then has not been updated for over a year.
      • This is due to the author being in long treatment due to health problems for a year. He's only lately come out of the treatment as of 2016.
  • Seinfeld Is Unfunny: Part of the divisive nature of this fanfic comes from its age, being first published around 2006. While it's unlikely it was the first one, it's certainly one of the earliest examples to use certain plot points that have become common in many subsequent fanfics in the Naruto fandom. Among the more used and repeated plot points are: A different teacher training Naruto, resulting in his skills developing earlier; the genin teams being different due to someone else requesting Naruto (and leading to a Naruto/Hinata pairing); and the presence of a sinister conspiracy inside the Village council. While these plot points are treated here with more nuance than in many other fanfics, if you have read similar stories and come to this one expecting something incredibly original, you may be disappointed.
  • Tear Jerker: Hinata is so used to abuse and rejection by her family, she actively looks for a veiled insult behind any compliments she receives from her teammates. She honestly does not know how to react when she realises they're not trying to insult her at all.
  • Too Cool to Live: Officially Kurenai, who died after breaking Tsukuyomi. With Fridge Logic of all things. Namely, realizing that the scenario Itachi puts her through makes no sense, and deliberately running with the correction.
  • What an Idiot:
  • The Woobie:
    • Hinata Up to Eleven compared to canon due to the 'nail' shifting her family life from aloof to outright abusive.
    • Sarutobi as well. The more aware he becomes of the injustices that Naruto faces, the more guilty he feels when he fails to stop them.
    • Kurenai, given what we've learned so far about her backstory, qualifies bigtime. As does Naruto, of course... Really, of all of Team 8, only Shino is completely well-adjusted, and given he's The Stoic, that says a lot.
  • They Wasted a Perfectly Good Character: Some readers believe that Kurenai was killed off too early and her potential as a character was wasted. On the bright side, her letter might inspire Naruto to find the truth about what happened to her team.

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