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** A good part of said fans would also agree that TD doesn't live up the first two seasons, and for them there's no such thing as a "third season", only the first two seasons, the movie and the OVAs/New Year's Eve specials.

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** A good part of said fans would also agree that TD doesn't live up the first two seasons, and for them there's no such thing as a "third season", only the first two seasons, the movie and the OVAs/New [[OriginalVideoAnimation OVAs]]/New Year's Eve specials.
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* HilariousInHindsight: [[Creator/YoshinoNanjo Kokoro]] tries to become an idol in ''Summer Special'' and her {{Expy}} succeeds to be one in Franchise/LoveLive.
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* EvilIsSexy: Arsene, most strongly established in the ending. You can see how she gets her subordinates.

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* FanonDiscontinuity: Many fans dislike ''Futari wa Milky Holmes'' so much that they insist ''Milky Holmes TD'' is the real third season.

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Many fans dislike ''Futari wa Milky Holmes'' so much that they insist ''Milky Holmes TD'' is the real third season.



* HoYay: Hercule/Nero, Sherlock/Nero, Kokoro/Sherlock, Kokoro/Irene, Cordelia/Pretty much any girl, are all pairings that have been suggested with various degrees of explicitness within the show itself.

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Hercule/Nero, Sherlock/Nero, Kokoro/Sherlock, Kokoro/Irene, Cordelia/Pretty much any girl, are all pairings that have been suggested with various degrees of explicitness within the show itself.



* ImprovedSecondAttempt: After the panned ''Futari wa'' season, ''TD'' incorporates elements from it, like a new protagonist and an actual plot, mixed with some of what made the main anime series great, like humor and gags. Amusingly, it also featured an appearance by ''Futari wa'''s most disliked character being (wrongfully) arrested in the first episode.



* ImprovedSecondAttempt: After the panned ''Futari wa'' season, ''TD'' incorporates elements from it, like a new protagonist and an actual plot, mixed with some of what made the main anime series great, like humor and gags. Amusingly, it also featured an appearance by ''Futari wa'''s most disliked character being (wrongfully) arrested in the first episode.
* {{Moe}}: Who isn't? Everyone is, yes even the the Gentlemen Thieves.
** Until Twenty takes his shirt off reveals his erect nipples. This is not an exaggeration.
* OffModel: Every season of the anime does a pretty good job at keeping a constant visual quality, however, for the games the story is different. The first game has no real issues, the anime cut-scenes are well done and decent in terms of animation, but the second game... well, let's just say that you know it's going to be a bumpy ride when you can notice that the main characters don't quite look like themselves [[https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm18701078 IN THE VERY FIRST ANIME CUT-SCENE.]]

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* ImprovedSecondAttempt: After the panned ''Futari wa'' season, ''TD'' incorporates elements from it, like a new protagonist and an actual plot, mixed with some of what made the main anime series great, like humor and gags. Amusingly, it also featured an appearance by ''Futari wa'''s most disliked character being (wrongfully) arrested in the first episode.
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%%* {{Moe}}: Who isn't? Everyone is, yes even the the Gentlemen Thieves.
** %%** Until Twenty takes his shirt off reveals his erect nipples. This is not an exaggeration.
* OffModel: Every season of the anime does a pretty good job at keeping a constant visual quality, however, for the games the story is different. The first game has no real issues, the anime cut-scenes are well done and decent in terms of animation, but the second game... well, let's just say that you know it's going to be a bumpy ride when you can notice that the main characters don't quite look like themselves [[https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm18701078 IN THE VERY FIRST ANIME CUT-SCENE.]]
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: After the panned ''Futari wa'' season, ''TD'' incorporates elements from it, like a new protagonist and an actual plot, mixed with some of what made the main anime series great, like humor and gags. Amusingly, it also featured an appearance by ''Futari wa'''s most disliked character being (wrongfully) arrested in the first episode.



* LesYay: Hercule/Nero, Sherlock/Nero, Kokoro/Sherlock, Kokoro/Irene, Cordelia/Pretty much any girl, are all pairings that have been suggested with various degrees of explicitness within the show itself.

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* LesYay: HoYay: Hercule/Nero, Sherlock/Nero, Kokoro/Sherlock, Kokoro/Irene, Cordelia/Pretty much any girl, are all pairings that have been suggested with various degrees of explicitness within the show itself.


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* ImprovedSecondAttempt: After the panned ''Futari wa'' season, ''TD'' incorporates elements from it, like a new protagonist and an actual plot, mixed with some of what made the main anime series great, like humor and gags. Amusingly, it also featured an appearance by ''Futari wa'''s most disliked character being (wrongfully) arrested in the first episode.
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Not what The Scrappy means, and argumentative troping.


** [[Website/FourChan /a/]] does ''not'' like Nero or Kokoro at all due to their constant whining and poor treatment of their respective circles of friends. (Though now that the show is over, every Milky Holmes thread needs some Nero White Knights and exclamations of "Must put penis in Kokoro-chan".)
** Kai/Twenty fits better: His [[FanDisservice one gag]] is closer to {{squick}} than is to being funny, and [[OverusedRunningGag they like having him do it at least twice an episode]]. At least Nero and Kokoro are cute not to mention bad things are constantly happening to them. And in season two said gag gets worse.
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** Kai/Twenty fits better: His [[FanDisservice one gag]] is closer to {{squick}} than is to being funny, and [[OverusedRunningGag they like having him do it at least twice an episode]]. At least Nero and Kokoro are cute not to mention bad things are constantly happening to them. And in season two said gag [[UpToEleven gets worse]].

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** Kai/Twenty fits better: His [[FanDisservice one gag]] is closer to {{squick}} than is to being funny, and [[OverusedRunningGag they like having him do it at least twice an episode]]. At least Nero and Kokoro are cute not to mention bad things are constantly happening to them. And in season two said gag [[UpToEleven gets worse]].worse.
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* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForLittleGirls: Despite starring characters that are effectively {{magical girl}}s, the Milky Holmes often end up on the brutal end of particularly crude gags.

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* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForLittleGirls: Despite having slapsticky humor and starring characters that are effectively {{magical girl}}s, the Milky Holmes often end up on the brutal end of particularly crude gags.
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* ContestedSequel: ''Futari wa'' was deeply divisive due to its attempts to change the StatusQuo by introducing two new point of view characters, giving the Milky Holmes their toys and competence back and making it all ''much'' more serious. While this did actually made the medium closer to the games' continuity, as said above, it also angered people who saw it as an unnecessary change to the anime continuity. The fact that the show itself doesn't bother to explain exactly how they got their toys back and become magically competent again after two seasons of damedame didn't help either. Eventually, ''TD'' was produced as a sort of compromise to solve this situation, bringing back the humor and wackiness of the old anime series yet also keeping ''Futari wa'''s competence and plot.

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* ContestedSequel: ''Futari wa'' was deeply divisive due to its attempts to change the StatusQuo show's status quo by introducing two new point of view characters, giving the Milky Holmes their toys and competence back and making it all ''much'' more serious. While this did actually made the medium closer to the games' continuity, as said above, it also angered people who saw it as an unnecessary change to the anime continuity. The fact that the show itself doesn't bother to explain exactly how they got their toys back and become magically competent again after two seasons of damedame didn't help either. Eventually, ''TD'' was produced as a sort of compromise to solve this situation, bringing back the humor and wackiness of the old anime series yet also keeping ''Futari wa'''s competence and plot.
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* FoeYay: Arsene has a clearly unhealthy fascination with Sherlock. ''Both'' Sherlocks.
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** Good part of said fans would also agree that TD doesn't live up the first two seasons, and for them there's no such thing as a "thid season", only the first two seasons, the movie and the OVAs/New Year's Eve specials.

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** Good A good part of said fans would also agree that TD doesn't live up the first two seasons, and for them there's no such thing as a "thid "third season", only the first two seasons, the movie and the OVAs/New Year's Eve specials.
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* OffModel: Every season of the anime does a pretty good job at keeping a constant visual quality, however, for the games the story is different. The first game has no real issues, the anime cut-scenes are well done and decent in terms of animation, but the second game... well, let's just say that you know it's going to be a bumpy ride when you can notice that the main characters don't quite look like themselves [[https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm18701078: IN THE VERY FIRST ANIME CUT-SCENE.]]

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* OffModel: Every season of the anime does a pretty good job at keeping a constant visual quality, however, for the games the story is different. The first game has no real issues, the anime cut-scenes are well done and decent in terms of animation, but the second game... well, let's just say that you know it's going to be a bumpy ride when you can notice that the main characters don't quite look like themselves [[https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm18701078: jp/watch/sm18701078 IN THE VERY FIRST ANIME CUT-SCENE.]]
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* OffModel: Every season of the anime does a pretty good job at keeping a constant visual quality, however, for the games the story is different. The first game has no real issues, the anime cut-scenes are well done and decent in terms of animation, but the second game... well, let's just say that you know it's going to be a bumpy ride when you can notice that the main characters don't quite look like themselves [[https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm18701078: IN THE VERY FIRST ANIME CUT-SCENE.]]
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** Many os said fans would also agree that TD doesn't live up the first two seasons, and for them there's no such thing as a "thid season", only the first two seasons, the movie and the OVAs/New Year's Eve specials.

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** Many os Good part of said fans would also agree that TD doesn't live up the first two seasons, and for them there's no such thing as a "thid season", only the first two seasons, the movie and the OVAs/New Year's Eve specials.
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** Many os said fans would also agree that TD doesn't live up the first two seasons, and for them there's no such thing as a "thid season", only the first two seasons, the movie and the OVAs/New Year's Eve specials.


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** Marine from TD. Despite being a main character, she doesn't contribute anything to the show other than cheap and shallow drama scenes that really don't belong in the Milky Holmes universe. After TD, she stops appearing save for a silent cameo or two.

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* BadassDecay: Used in plot to justify the Milky Holmes' suffering. Not only do they lose their Toys from the get go they get dumber and more inept as the show moves on completely destroying whatever reputation they apparently had before.
** This results in a lot of people shocked ([[TheyChangedItNowItSucks SHOCKED!]]) when they are actually competent in ''Futari wa''. [[AdaptationDisplacement Such competence is the way they usually act in the PSP game.]]
*** In their defense, the show itself didn't bother to explain exactly HOW they got their toys and become magically competent after two seasons of damedame. And the PSP game is well established to be in an alternate universe to the main anime series, which the alleged sequel claims to be a continuation of.

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* BadassDecay: AuthorsSavingThrow: After the panned ''Futari wa'' season, ''TD'' incorporates elements from it, like a new protagonist and an actual plot, mixed with some of what made the main anime series great, like humor and gags. Amusingly, it also featured an appearance by ''Futari wa'''s most disliked character being (wrongfully) arrested in the first episode.
* BadassDecay:
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Used in plot to justify the Milky Holmes' suffering. Not only do they lose their Toys from the get go they get dumber and more inept as the show moves on completely destroying whatever reputation they apparently had before.
** This results in a lot of people shocked ([[TheyChangedItNowItSucks SHOCKED!]]) when they the Milky Holmes are actually competent in ''Futari wa''. Such competence is [[AdaptationDisplacement Such competence is the way they usually act in the PSP game.]]
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game]], but this only blurs things given that the show itself didn't bother to explain exactly HOW they got their toys and become magically competent after two seasons of damedame. And the PSP game anime is well established to be in an alternate universe officially billed as a "semi-AlternateUniverse" to the main anime series, which the alleged sequel claims games, making it difficult what is supposed to be a continuation of.canonical and what not in their characterization.



* ContestedSequel: ''Futari wa'' was deeply divisive due to its attempts to change the StatusQuo by introducing two new point of view characters, giving the Milky Holmes their toys and competence back and making it all ''much'' more serious. While this did actually made the medium closer to the games' continuity, as said above, it also angered people who saw it as an unnecessary change to the anime continuity. The fact that the show itself doesn't bother to explain exactly how they got their toys back and become magically competent again after two seasons of damedame didn't help either. Eventually, ''TD'' was produced as a sort of compromise to solve this situation, bringing back the humor and wackiness of the old anime series yet also keeping ''Futari wa'''s competence and plot.



* MemeticMutation -- '''By the boat full.'''

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* MemeticMutation -- MemeticMutation: '''By the boat full.'''



* TheScrappy -- [[Website/FourChan /a/]] does ''not'' like Nero or Kokoro at all due to their constant whining and poor treatment of their respective circles of friends.
** Though now that the show is over, every Milky Holmes thread needs some Nero White Knights and exclamations of "Must put penis in Kokoro-chan".
** Kai/Twenty fits better: His [[FanDisservice one gag]] is closer to {{squick}} than is to being funny, and [[OverusedRunningGag they like having him do it at least twice an episode]]. At least Nero and Kokoro are cute not to mention bad things are constantly happening to them.
*** In season two said gag [[UpToEleven got worse]].

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* TheScrappy -- TheScrappy:
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[[Website/FourChan /a/]] does ''not'' like Nero or Kokoro at all due to their constant whining and poor treatment of their respective circles of friends.
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friends. (Though now that the show is over, every Milky Holmes thread needs some Nero White Knights and exclamations of "Must put penis in Kokoro-chan".
Kokoro-chan".)
** Kai/Twenty fits better: His [[FanDisservice one gag]] is closer to {{squick}} than is to being funny, and [[OverusedRunningGag they like having him do it at least twice an episode]]. At least Nero and Kokoro are cute not to mention bad things are constantly happening to them.
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them. And in season two said gag [[UpToEleven got gets worse]].



* TakeThatScrappy: In the first episode of ''TD'', Milky Holmes arrests Kazumi. Enough said.

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* TakeThatScrappy: In the first episode of ''TD'', Milky Holmes arrests Kazumi. Enough said.Actually wrongfully, but enough by itself.
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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: ''Futari wa Milky Holmes'' is much more serious in tone and focuses on two new protagonists. This results in fans [[FanonDiscontinuity pretending it never exists]] and over 70% drop in blue-ray disc sales.

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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: ''Futari wa Milky Holmes'' is much more serious in tone and focuses on two new protagonists. This results in fans [[FanonDiscontinuity pretending it never exists]] and over 70% drop in blue-ray Blu-Ray disc sales.
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Fan Nickname belongs in trivia | Fridge Logic has its own tab


* FanNickname: GA-3 for [[Creator/RyokoShintani Hirano]], [[Creator/YukariTamura Saku]], and [[Creator/MiyukiSawashiro Tsugiko]], due to their voice actresses playing three of the leads in ''Anime/GalaxyAngel''.



* FridgeLogic: How does Milky Holmes notice Mary and Kate in their thief outfits but not Arsene and her goons?
** RuleOfFunny? TooDumbToLive? [[IdiotHero Idiot Heroes?]] Take your pick, there are dozens of tropes that this series will use to justify this.
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* AdaptationDisplacement: A lot of people have watched the anime but know nothing about the games, probably because [[NoExportForYou it is the only part of the franchise available outside Japan.]]

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* AdaptationDisplacement: A lot of people have watched the anime but know nothing about the games, probably because [[NoExportForYou it is the only part of the franchise available outside Japan.in Japan only.]]
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* TheScrappy -- [[ImageBoards /a/]] does ''not'' like Nero or Kokoro at all due to their constant whining and poor treatment of their respective circles of friends.

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* TheScrappy -- [[ImageBoards [[Website/FourChan /a/]] does ''not'' like Nero or Kokoro at all due to their constant whining and poor treatment of their respective circles of friends.
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* WinBackTheCrowd: What ''Milky Holmes TD'' is trying to do as it bring back the humors(albeit toned down) and the old running gag whilst having a plot and competent Milky Holmes.

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* WinBackTheCrowd: What ''Milky Holmes TD'' is trying to do as it bring back the humors(albeit humor (albeit toned down) and the old running gag whilst having a plot and competent Milky Holmes.

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