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* AssPull: The reveal that [[spoiler:Divergence Catalysts are created by Chromatus users who overuse their powers]] seems fine in premise, except [[spoiler:the worlds that those users create are specifically tailored to [[YourHeartsDesire their ideal world]] rather than [[ForWantOfANail one event diverging in the past]], which has been exemplified for most of the game. It seems the only reason why it's established is to justify Julius' Fractured Dimension being tragically, impossibly perfect.]]

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* AssPull: The reveal that [[spoiler:Divergence Catalysts are created by Chromatus users who overuse their powers]] seems fine in premise, except [[spoiler:the worlds that those users create are specifically tailored to [[YourHeartsDesire their ideal world]] rather than [[ForWantOfANail one event diverging in the past]], past, which has been exemplified for most of the game. It seems the only reason why it's established is to justify Julius' Fractured Dimension being tragically, impossibly perfect.]]
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* BrokenAesop:
** In the first ''Xillia'', a major conflict is between [[ExpendableAlternateUniverse saving Rieze Maxia or Elympios by indirectly destroying the other]], and the party ultimately decide to SaveBothWorlds. However, in the sequel, while there's some objection to Ludger murdering millions of people with every destroyed Fractured Dimension, the original party concludes that while it's horrible, they still have to destroy worlds for the sake of protecting their own, directly contradicting the goal of the first game by sacrificing other worlds to save [[ProtagonistCenteredMorality the one the protagonists live in]].
** In Rowen's Character Episodes, he is seemingly willing to [[TheNeedsOfTheMany sacrifice himself for the sake of peace between countries]], and Elize and Ludger object that it's not right. Similarly, in a Chapter 12 skit, it's contemplated that a specific character's death is needed to improve the world when [[spoiler:Jude is murdered in a timeline where he perfected spyrite and resolved Elympios' energy problems]], but Prime Milla and Elle both object as the benefits would not be worth the loss of that character. In both cases, the potential sacrifice admits they're right. Come the main story, however, [[spoiler:Fractured Milla, Julius, and Elle]] all end up sacrificed in the process of saving the world, only Elle and Ludger seriously object to these deaths and argue for not letting the sacrificed person die, whereas the rest of the party treat it as tragic but ultimately necessary to save their world.
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** In one skit Gaius drinks some alcohol and gets drunk from it. Considering he's voiced Creator/TravisWillingham who is infamous for his [[NoodleIncident tequila shot incident]], it's quite ironic.

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** Gaius' voice actor in both games, Creator/TravisWillingham, has a well known story about him drinking too many tequila shots at a convention and how unprepared he was, getting extremely drunk and trying to interact with fans, to his embarrassment. In this game, one skit has Gaius drinks drink some alcohol and gets drunk from it. Considering he's voiced Creator/TravisWillingham who is infamous for his [[NoodleIncident tequila shot incident]], it's quite ironic.it almost right away, making it funnier with that knowledge in mind.
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* CharacterTiers: Due to having an expanded roster of party members, there is somewhat of a tier list for how useful the party members are. Ludger is the sole exception because he is required pretty much the entire game.
** At the top of the tier is Gaius, Muzet, and Elize. Gaius is the hardest hitting physical fighter with a strong Linked skill, Muzet is a good RedMage type character and a strong spell caster, and Elize is the best healer and her Dark element focus makes her stick out more so than anyone else.
** At mid tier is Milla, Rowen, and Alvin. All three of them are good but overshadowed by Gaius and Muzet, but are still good to bring along.
** At the lowest tier is Fractured Milla, Jude, and Leia. Fractured Milla is, strictly speaking, Milla without her ability to summon Spirits, leaving her much weaker and unable to provide any extra power. Both Jude and Leia are CombatMedic characters but were given nerfs from the first game, Jude being too clunky and slow and Leia not having much of a defined role. Both also lost the best thing they had going for them in the first game, their ability to heal, since in the first game Jude, Elize, and Leia were the only characters with reliable healing. Now everyone has at least one healing arte, leaving them both useless compared to the others.

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* CharacterTiers: Due to having an expanded roster of party members, there is somewhat of a tier list for how useful the party members are. Ludger is the sole exception because he is required pretty much the entire game.
game. For specifics:
** At the top of the tier is Gaius, Muzet, and Elize. Gaius is the hardest hitting physical fighter with a strong Linked skill, Muzet is a good RedMage type character and a strong spell caster, and Elize is the best healer and her Dark element focus makes her stick out more so than anyone else.
else. The former two also work well as link partners for Ludger.
** At mid tier is Milla, Rowen, and Alvin. All three of them are good but are overshadowed by Gaius and Muzet, but are still Muzet in terms of physical and magic power, and Elize is too good of a healer to bring along.
consider passing her over for one of them.
** At the lowest tier is Fractured Milla, Jude, and Leia. Fractured Milla is, strictly speaking, is Milla without her ability to summon Spirits, leaving her much weaker and unable to provide any extra power. power by comparison. Both Jude and Leia are CombatMedic characters but were given nerfs from the first game, game; Jude being too clunky and slow as opposed to his faster playstyle from the first game, and Leia not having much of a defined role.role anymore. Both also lost the best thing they had going for them in the first game, their ability to heal, since in the first game Jude, Elize, and Leia were the only characters with reliable healing. Now everyone has at least one healing arte, leaving them both useless compared to the others.

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* TierInducedScrappy:
** Leia is an interesting case in that she hasn't really got worse since the first game, but changes to other characters made her less useful than she used to be. In the first game, she was probably the best physical CombatMedic of the party, and was important due to several party members having no healing at all, and being one of the few members with Resurrection. Now that ''every character'' has at least one healing skill, Leia still can't cure status effects, and Muzet and Elize have Resurrection, there's suddenly a lot less reason to use her. To make things worse, she's OutOfFocus for most of the main plot, the few story fights she ''is'' involved in [[ThatOneBoss make you wish you had Elize instead]] and her sidequest arc is the least combat-related of the party, giving her few chances to truly shine. Becomes HarsherInHindsight when you remember she had fears of being TheLoad in the previous game.
** Jude, though only because he was nerfed considerably. Instead of being the [[GameBreaker gaming breaking]], [[LightningBruiser extremely fast, tough, and powerful]] [[CombatMedic backup healer]] he was in the first game, he became more akin to a MightyGlacier. As a result, he's one of the least used characters.
** Fractured Milla lacks the ability to use Milla's Summon Spirts. This makes her a chore using, since it means she can't heal like the others can now and removes Milla's biggest strength. Really the only reason you'll use her is so when the real Milla comes back, she'd caught up to everyone, which is unnecessary due to LeakedExperience. She also doesn't have a [[LimitBreak Mystic Arte]].
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