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* FoeYay: Zagi towards Yuri.


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* TheUntwist: [[spoiler: Absolutely no one is surprised that she's a princess, save [[IdiotHero Karol.]]]]

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** Blah blah blah. '''''TIDAL WAVE!''''' Take Rita, Meteor Storm/Tidal Wave, over limit, a few skills, and you have yourself the infinite combo and tons of Grade. Spend it in [[NewGamePlus the Grade shop]] on your next playthrough and bam, you're on the easy road to level 200.

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** Blah Because of the new Overlimit System, Rita can become extremely gamebreaking. Against a single opponent, use of Splash or Violent Pain can almost singlehandedly lock down anybody not in Overlimit (which removes their own flinching). Against any crowds of opponents, the words "Blah blah blah. '''''TIDAL WAVE!''''' Take Rita, Meteor Storm/Tidal Wave, over limit, a few skills, and " will destroy entire crowds as long as you have yourself the infinite don't burn all your mana. You can also build up a massive combo with this and tons earn a lot of Grade. Spend it in [[NewGamePlus the Grade shop]] on your next playthrough and bam, you're on the easy road to level 200.


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** As mentioned below, Estelle's ability of "Eternal Support" means that an effect can last until she is killed or the fight ends. However, one spell gives temporary invincibility. Due to oversight in the 360 version, this can mean that there is a chance that Estelle can become permanently invincible for an entire fight. Take this to the 200 man arena, get it to work early, and do whatever the hell you want to any arena opponent. [[BerserkButton Use items in front of Barbados.]] They can't hurt you.
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* ShipTease: It seems like there are ships all over the place in this game. Yuri/Flynn, Yuri/Estelle, Yuri/Judith, Yuri/Rita, Estelle/Flynn, Estelle/Rita, Rita/Raven, Judith/Raven, Karol/Nan (not to mention one-sided ship-teasing with Karol/Judith), Don Whitehorse/Belius, Duke/Elucifer. If you can think it up, you can probably rustle up 'evidence' of the ship tease within the game. I even read someone try to suggest there was ship teasing of [[{{Squick}} Estelle/Repede]] in the game.

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* ShipTease: It seems like there are ships all over the place in this game. Yuri/Flynn, Yuri/Estelle, Yuri/Judith, Yuri/Rita, Estelle/Flynn, Estelle/Rita, Rita/Raven, Judith/Raven, Karol/Nan [[HoYay Yuri/Flynn]], [[AllGirlsWantBadBoys Yuri/Estelle]], [[BattleCouple Yuri/Judith]], [[SwordAndSorcerer Yuri/Rita]], [[SingleWomanSeeksGoodMan Estelle/Flynn]], [[LesYay Estelle/Rita]], [[{{Tsundere}} Rita/Raven]], [[TheTease Judith]]/[[DirtyOldMan Raven]], [[PuppyLove Karol/Nan]] (not to mention one-sided ship-teasing with Karol/Judith), [[AccidentalPervert Karol]]/[[TheTease Judith]]), [[InterspeciesRomance Don Whitehorse/Belius, Duke/Elucifer.Whitehorse/Belius]], [[TheMourningAfter Duke/Elucifer]]. Not to mention the off-screen triangle between [[LoveTriangle Yeager/Casey/Raven]]. If you can think it up, you can probably rustle up 'evidence' of the ship tease within the game. I even read someone try to suggest there was ship teasing of [[{{Squick}} Estelle/Repede]] in the game.
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* ShipTease: It seems like there are ships all over the place in this game. Yuri/Flynn, Yuri/Estelle, Yuri/Judith, Yuri/Rita, Estelle/Flynn, Estelle/Rita, Rita/Raven, Judith/Raven, Karol/Nan (not to mention one-sided ship-teasing with Karol/Judith), Don Whitehorse/Belius, Duke/Elucifer. If you can think it up, you can probably rustle up 'evidence' of the ship tease within the game. I even read someone try to suggest there was ship teasing of [[{{Squick}} Estelle/Repede]] in the game.
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* PuritySue - Estelle, anyone?
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** Judith has many artes and skills that revolve around juggling enemies in mid-air. This can be ''very'' useful, especially when combined with Rita's Tractor Beam/Spiral Flare/Ground Dasher or Raven's Havoc Gale.
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** Possibly [[spoiler: Raven]], when he kidnaps [[spoiler: Estelle]] for [[spoiler: Alexei]] and then fights the party so the villain can make his escape, unless you believe that he sufficiently [[RedemptionEarnsLife redeemed]] himself afterwards.
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*** Not to mention that she frequently beats him up, but then maybe that's just supposed to be [[DoubleStandardAbuseFemaleOnMale endearing]] in a couple.
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*Also the waiter minigame it's quite ridiculous when they order about 50 dishes and cancel another 100 when you're doing it as raven.

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* SuperlativeDubbing - When you have TroyBaker as you male lead, you know things can't go too wrong.
* TearJerker - [[spoiler:Everything involving Alexei controlling Estelle's power, up to and including the [[SequentialBoss second]] fight against her, fought with just Yuri and a heartbreaking simplistic rendition of ''Ring A Bell'' playing in the background. It almost makes you feel like [[LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt he's actually going to kill her]], but thankfully the result is [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming heartwarming]] instead.]]

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* SuperlativeDubbing - When you have TroyBaker as you male lead, you know things can't go too wrong.
* TearJerker -
TearJerker: [[spoiler:Everything involving Alexei controlling Estelle's power, up to and including the [[SequentialBoss second]] fight against her, fought with just Yuri and a heartbreaking simplistic rendition of ''Ring A Bell'' playing in the background. It almost makes you feel like [[LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt he's actually going to kill her]], but thankfully the result is [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming heartwarming]] instead.]]

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* DisappointingLastLevel - Part 3.



* XenSyndrome - Part 3.

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* HoYay - Zagi wants to carve Yuri's name into his own blood! He pretty much spends a lot of his time hunting Yuri down as well. Yuri does not return the feeling in any way.
** Yuri and Flynn's relationship has more than a few hints of this, as well.
** Rita and Estelle have some pretty big LesYay moments too.
** [[spoiler:Duke and Elucifer]], anyone?



* ItsTheSameNowItSucks - A frequent criticism tossed at ''Vesperia'' was how it's too similiar to previous TalesSeries entries, particularly borrowing quite a number of elements from the last mothership game released in America, ''TalesOfTheAbyss''.

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* ItsTheSameNowItSucks - A frequent criticism tossed at ''Vesperia'' was how it's too similiar to previous TalesSeries entries, particularly borrowing quite a number of elements from the last mothership game released in America, ''TalesOfTheAbyss''. ''TalesOfTheAbyss''.
* LesYay - Estelle and Rita. So much.
** [[LampshadeHanging Lampshaded]] by Karol in one of the victory skits.
** A subliminal joke in Nam Cobanda Island, in a quick play. One's a hero, one's the damsel to save, guess who plays who? [[spoiler:Estelle's the hero and Rita's the damsel Estelle has to save. Then there's the impromptu twist when Rita fries the play's antagonist...]]
** Yuri adds fuel to the fire in a skit triggered by using Rita's Levitation skill for the first time by calling them [[PortmanteauCoupleName Ristelle]] when Rita is flying and Estelle is holding on to her legs.[[invoked]]
** Made even more evident in the PS3 version, including a scene where they [[spoiler:care for a lost infant together.]]
** One sidequest shows the group at the time (Yuri, Karol, Rita, Estelle, and Repede, the last of which is nowhere to be seen at the time) resting in an inn. On three beds. Guess who are ''sleeping in the same bed together.'
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* AlasPoorVillain: [[spoiler: Yeager]]
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* AssPull - [[spoiler:The Elemental Spirits]] are often accused of being one. It's ultimately [[YourMileageMayVary a matter of preference]].

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* AssPull - [[spoiler:The Elemental Spirits]] are often accused of being one. It's ultimately [[YourMileageMayVary a matter of preference]].Spirits]].



* ItsTheSameNowItSucks - A frequent criticism tossed at ''Vesperia'' was how it's too similiar to previous TalesSeries entries, particularly borrowing quite a number of elements from the last mothership game released in America, ''TalesOfTheAbyss''. [[YourMileageMayVary Whether or not this is awesome or terrible is up for debate.]]

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* ItsTheSameNowItSucks - A frequent criticism tossed at ''Vesperia'' was how it's too similiar to previous TalesSeries entries, particularly borrowing quite a number of elements from the last mothership game released in America, ''TalesOfTheAbyss''. [[YourMileageMayVary Whether or not this is awesome or terrible is up for debate.]]



* XenSyndrome - Part 3 is accused of being this, despite its numerous sidequests, but YourMileageMayVary on that.

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* XenSyndrome - Part 3 is accused of being this, despite its numerous sidequests, but YourMileageMayVary on that.3.
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* SuperlativeDubbing - When you have TroyBaker as you male lead, you know things can't go too wrong.

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* {{Discontinuity}} - Many fans claim this towards ''The First Strike'' movie due to its arguably odd approaches to characterization and its [[DidNotDoTheResearch many inconsistencies with the game]]. One of many examples regards Rita being knowledgeable about Aer Krenes, when in the game, she never knew what one was until the visit to Keiv Moc.



* FamilyUnfriendlyAesop - It is arguable whether or not Yuri's actions are for the greater good. [[TheyPlottedAPerfectlyGoodWaste Then again, raising that debate was the whole point of the game]].

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* FamilyUnfriendlyAesop - It is arguable whether or not Yuri's actions are for the greater good. [[TheyPlottedAPerfectlyGoodWaste Then again, raising that debate was the whole point of the game]].
* FanonDiscontinuity - Many fans claim this towards ''The First Strike'' movie due to its arguably odd approaches to characterization and its [[DidNotDoTheResearch many inconsistencies with the
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* ThatOneBoss - Gattuso the wolf in Ehmead Hill was an extremely tough boss in the demo that turned off many people from the game. Developers claimed that the difficulty was turned up for the demo. Then the game came out...and the boss ''was'' tuned down, except that doesn't matter much since you have fewer attacks and options than in the demo.

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Gattuso the wolf in Ehmead Hill was an extremely tough boss in the demo that turned off many people from the game. Developers claimed that the difficulty was turned up for the demo. Then the game came out...and the boss ''was'' tuned down, except that doesn't matter much since you have fewer attacks and options than in the demo.


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** Khroma Dragon. ARGH!!! Aerial enemy!!
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* ItsTheSameNowItSucks - A frequent criticism tossed at ''Vesperia'' was how it's too similiar to previous TalesSeries entries, particularly borrowing quite a number of elements from the last mothership game released in America, ''TalesOfTheAbyss''. [[YourMileageMayVary Whether or not this is awesome or terrible is up for debate.]]
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** Khroma Dragon. ARGH!!! Aerial enemy!!

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* CrazyAwesome -

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* CrazyAwesome - Repede, the pipe-smoking, fireball-spitting, backflipping Wonder Dog, naturally.



* FanPreferredCouple: Yuri x Judith is ''much'' more popular than Yuri x Estelle, probably because they're both {{Blood Knight}}s with a fair bit of flirting and snark between them. The large amounts of HoYay in-game have also led to [[PortmanteauCoupleName Ristelle]] and Yuri x Flynn. Rita x Raven is also fairly popular, which has just as many fans reaching for the BrainBleach given that she's underage and he's [[spoiler:technically kinda sorta ''zombified'']], and even if he wasn't, he's still way older than her.
** This seems to be reversed in Japan, where Yuri x Estelle is the most popular pairing by far and Yuri x Judith is almost nonexistent.

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* FanPreferredCouple: Thanks to the ShipTease situation explained on the main page, Vesperia's ripe with these. Of note:
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Yuri x Judith is ''much'' more popular than Yuri x Estelle, probably because they're both {{Blood Knight}}s with a fair bit of flirting and snark between them. This balance seems to be reversed in Japan, where Yuri x Estelle is the most popular pairing by far and Yuri x Judith is almost nonexistent.
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The large amounts of HoYay in-game have also led to [[PortmanteauCoupleName Ristelle]] and Yuri x Flynn. Flynn.
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Rita x Raven is also fairly popular, which has just as many fans reaching for the BrainBleach given that she's underage and he's [[spoiler:technically kinda sorta ''zombified'']], and even if he wasn't, he's still way older than her.
** This seems to be reversed in Japan, where Yuri x Estelle is the most popular pairing by far and Yuri x Judith is almost nonexistent.
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* InternetBackdraft - Mainly over Yuri's alledged hypocrisy, Estelle's usefulness, and the vast number of {{PS3}} extras and whether or not the 360 version was stripped down. Expect lots of FanDumb on all sides.

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* InternetBackdraft - Mainly over Yuri's alledged alleged hypocrisy, Estelle's usefulness, and the vast number of {{PS3}} extras and whether or not the 360 version was stripped down. Expect lots of FanDumb on all sides.



* {{Moe}} - Estelle and, to an extent, Rita

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* {{Moe}} - Estelle and, to an extent, RitaRita.



--> '''[[ThatGuyWithTheGlasses Lee from Still Gaming]]:''' "I was so dumb (Concerning the ''Tales of'' series in general) that, by looking at the cover... I thought Yuri was a ''chick''. After all, {{Yuri}} means... [[LesYay Uh]]... ''nevermind''."

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--> '''[[ThatGuyWithTheGlasses Lee from Still Gaming]]:''' "I was so dumb (Concerning the ''Tales of'' series in general) that, by looking at the cover... I thought Yuri was a ''chick''. After all, {{Yuri}} means... [[LesYay Uh]]... ''nevermind''.''never mind''."
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** This seems to be reversed in Japan, where Yuri x Estelle is the most popular pairing by far and Yuri x Judith is almost nonexistent.
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** Not that Yuri x Estelle ''doesn't'' have many fans, of course...

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* {{Discontinuity}} - Many fans claim this towards ''The First Strike'' movie due to its debateably odd approaches to characterization and its [[DidNotDoTheResearch many inconsistencies with the game]]. One of many examples regards Rita being knowledgeable about Aer Krenes, when in the game, she never knew what one was until the visit to Keiv Moc.

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* CrazyAwesome -
* {{Discontinuity}} - Many fans claim this towards ''The First Strike'' movie due to its debateably arguably odd approaches to characterization and its [[DidNotDoTheResearch many inconsistencies with the game]]. One of many examples regards Rita being knowledgeable about Aer Krenes, when in the game, she never knew what one was until the visit to Keiv Moc.



** Still, secondary characters did recieve a lot of love.

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** Still, the game's secondary characters did recieve do receive a lot of love. love...
*** Flynn is generally overshadowed by Yuri due to the latter's {{Badass}}ery, but there are people who believe Flynn's ways are better.
*** Raven generally annoys the party, but is [[UnpopularPopularCharacter one of the most popular characters in the fandom]].
*** Yeager doesn't get much screen time, but has been voted the most popular villain in the game on the official forums.



* FanPreferredCouple: Yuri x Judith is ''much'' more popular than Yuri x Estelle, probably because they're both {{Blood Knight}}s with a fair bit of flirting and snark between them. The large amounts of HoYay in-game have also led to [[PortmanteauCoupleName Ristelle]] and Yuri x Flynn. Rita x Raven is also fairly popular, which has just as many fans reaching for the BrainBleach given that she's underage and he's [[spoiler:technically kinda sorta ''zombified'']], and even if he wasn't, he's still way older than her.

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* FanPreferredCouple: Yuri x Judith is ''much'' more popular than Yuri x Estelle, probably because they're both {{Blood Knight}}s with a fair bit of flirting and snark between them. The large amounts of HoYay in-game have also led to [[PortmanteauCoupleName Ristelle]] and Yuri x Flynn. Rita x Raven is also fairly popular, which has just as many fans reaching for the BrainBleach given that she's underage and he's [[spoiler:technically kinda sorta ''zombified'']], and even if he wasn't, he's still way older than her. her.
** Not that Yuri x Estelle ''doesn't'' have many fans, of course...



* WhatAnIdiot - Judith's actions immediately following [[spoiler:Belius' death.]] Not so much what she did, but how she responded to the party's reactions.

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** Duke has gotten this reaction a few times as well.
* WhatAnIdiot - Judith's actions immediately following [[spoiler:Belius' death.]] Not so much what she did, since she had a ''very'' good reason to do so, but how she responded to the party's reactions.reactions. [[spoiler:However, the party understands and forgives her when they find her again.]]
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** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEAPHbivtl8&feature=related And then]] [[BigBadassWolf Repede]] does it even faster.
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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome - Fury Sparks.

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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome - [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5btglEfiOs8&fmt=18 Fury Sparks.Sparks]].
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* [[spoiler: {{Roaring Rampage Of Revenge}}]]: [[spoiler: The Enduring Shrine of Zaude, and the boss fight with Alexei, could be seen as this for Estelle.]]

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* FamilyUnfriendlyAesop - It is arguable whether or not Yuri's actions are for the greater good.

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* FamilyUnfriendlyAesop - It is arguable whether or not Yuri's actions are for the greater good. [[TheyPlottedAPerfectlyGoodWaste Then again, raising that debate was the whole point of the game]].
* FanPreferredCouple: Yuri x Judith is ''much'' more popular than Yuri x Estelle, probably because they're both {{Blood Knight}}s with a fair bit of flirting and snark between them. The large amounts of HoYay in-game have also led to [[PortmanteauCoupleName Ristelle]] and Yuri x Flynn. Rita x Raven is also fairly popular, which has just as many fans reaching for the BrainBleach given that she's underage and he's [[spoiler:technically kinda sorta ''zombified'']], and even if he wasn't, he's still way older than her.


* CharacterAlignment - A big theme of this game is the {{Deconstruction}} of this trope. The game goes out of its way to point out that people [[HiddenDepths are far more complicated]] than a simple label/alignment, and that the concept of Good and Evil is entirely subjective. (Hell, even the ChaoticEvil BloodKnight Zagi gets some CharacterDevelopment.)

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* {{Discontinuity}} - Many fans claim this towards ''The First Strike'' movie due to its [[DidNotDoTheResearch many inconsistencies with the game]]. One of many examples regards Rita being knowledgeable about Aer Krenes, when in the game, she never knew what one was until the visit to Keiv Moc.

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* {{Discontinuity}} - Many fans claim this towards ''The First Strike'' movie due to its debateably odd approaches to characterization and its [[DidNotDoTheResearch many inconsistencies with the game]]. One of many examples regards Rita being knowledgeable about Aer Krenes, when in the game, she never knew what one was until the visit to Keiv Moc.



** Rita, Meteor Storm/Tidal Wave, over limit, a few skills, and you have yourself the infinite combo and tons of Grade. Spend it in [[NewGamePlus the Grade shop]] on your next playthrough and bam, you're on the easy road to level 200.

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** Blah blah blah. '''''TIDAL WAVE!''''' Take Rita, Meteor Storm/Tidal Wave, over limit, a few skills, and you have yourself the infinite combo and tons of Grade. Spend it in [[NewGamePlus the Grade shop]] on your next playthrough and bam, you're on the easy road to level 200.



** Combining Estelle's "Eternal Support" skill with her "Force Field" arte. Each use of Force Field has a chance of making her invincible. ''For the entire battle.'' Sadly removed in the {{PS3}} version, though it was a fairly cheap tactic to abuse.



** Flynn has a skill that allows him to turn his TP into HP. This allows him to survive pretty much anything, allowing him to go through some of the more difficult challenges of the game without being in OVL 4.



* GoodBadBugs: The Xbox360 version had a skill called Eternal Support, which gives the stat boosting spells Estelle casts the chance to remain permanently until the the end of the fight (or until you get killed), instead of only lasting for a few minutes. One of her spells, Force Field, gives all characters in the area of effect invulnerability. Due to an oversight, Force Field works just fine with Eternal Support, meaning it's possible to make characters unkillable for the duration of the fight. You could simply set everyone to Auto Fight once you got it to work, and go make a sandwich or something - you'd win eventually. This oversight was fixed in the PS3 remake.



** A few have mistaken Witcher (aka "Apple Head" from Yuri) as a girl.
* WhatAnIdiot - Judith's actions immediatly following [[spoiler:Belius's death.]] Not so much what she did, but how she responded to the party's reactions.

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** A few have mistaken Witcher (aka "Apple Head" from Yuri) Head") as a girl.
* WhatAnIdiot - Judith's actions immediatly immediately following [[spoiler:Belius's [[spoiler:Belius' death.]] Not so much what she did, but how she responded to the party's reactions.

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