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** Bonnie/[[spoiler: Vesta]] from "Rock and a Hard Place" went on to play [[Creator/LindyBooth Cassandra Cillian]] in the cult series ''Series/TheLibrarians" one year after the episode aired.

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** Bonnie/[[spoiler: Vesta]] from "Rock and a Hard Place" went on to play [[Creator/LindyBooth Cassandra Cillian]] in the cult series ''Series/TheLibrarians" ''Series/TheLibrarians2014" one year after the episode aired.
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** Bonnie/[[spoiler: Vesta]] from "Rock and a Hard Place" went on to star in the cult series ''Series/TheLibrarians" one year after the episode aired.

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** Bonnie/[[spoiler: Vesta]] from "Rock and a Hard Place" went on to star play [[Creator/LindyBooth Cassandra Cillian]] in the cult series ''Series/TheLibrarians" one year after the episode aired.
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** Bonnie/[[spoiler: Vesta]] from "Rock and a Hard Place" went on to star in the cult series ''Series/TheLibrarians" one year after the episode aired.
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* MemeticMolester: Meg, Azazel, Alastair, Lucifer, and Crowley tend to be seen as sexually harassing/abusing other characters (with a focus on the Winchesters), or just as sexual and creepy in general. {{Justified}} in the cases of Lucifer and Alastair, who have actually both been implied to be rapists in-universe.

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* MemeticMolester: Meg, Azazel, Alastair, Lucifer, and Crowley tend to be seen as sexually harassing/abusing other characters (with a focus on the Winchesters), or just as sexual and creepy in general. {{Justified}} {{Justified|Trope}} in the cases of Lucifer and Alastair, who have actually both been implied to be rapists in-universe.
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** The combination of nervous vulnerability and cute ramblings that Ava Wilson displays in her first episode is just adorable, although [[spoiler:by her second and final appearance, she is in full CorruptTheCutie mode.]]
** A lot of the adoration and protective feelings Sarah Blake elicits from the fanbase in her two episodes has to do with her lovely smile, quiet but firm determination to help people, and the way she can combine concern and witty optimism in the same scene.
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* TheChrisCarterEffect: Many fans agree the show was hit with this during Seasons 6-7. Since Creator/EricKripke stepped down as showrunner after Season 5, fans in general have become increasingly less happy with the course the show is taking, feeling that new showrunner Sera Gamble has abolished most of the important plot threads and popular secondary characters that were a large part of the show's success and is now relying purely on a series of one-shot guest stars to maintain viewers. Judging by the ratings, it didn't really work out well. However, general consensus seems to be that since Sera Gamble's departure and Jeremy Carver's debut, the show — while still not as good as the earliest seasons — has managed to get back on track, having completely abandoned the boring Leviathan mythology, and returning to the Angel and Demon mythology.
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* EvilIsSexy: ''All'' the female demons (though [[CreepyChild Lilith]] only counts when she possesses a grown woman), or at least when possessing people. Dean states that [[spoiler:Ruby]]'s true form is shockingly ugly. There's also [[ClassyCatBurglar Bela]] and [[MotherOfAThousandYoung Eve]]. The Winchesters and Castiel count as well when they're possessed or JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope.

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** Fans liked Metatron well enough... until it was revealed that [[spoiler:he was manipulating [[EnsembleDarkhorse Castiel]] for his own ends and he cast all the angels out of Heaven after killing Naomi for the sake of (misplaced) [[DisproportionateRetribution vengeance]].]] In the space of ''one episode'', he went from loved to hated. Don't be surprised if fans now say he's worse that [[{{Satan}} Lucifer]]. This got even worse in Season 9, where the writers can't seem to decide whether they want him to be [[spoiler:a smart and dangerous MagnificentBastard or an IneffectualSympatheticVillain who just wants people to like him,]] resulting in him constantly switching between the two rather contradictory personalities. Sometimes, within the span of a single episode. Also not helping is his tendency for his schemes to rely more on giving other characters the IdiotBall than actually doing something clever himself.

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** Fans liked Metatron well enough... until it was revealed that [[spoiler:he was manipulating [[EnsembleDarkhorse Castiel]] for his own ends and he cast all the angels out of Heaven after killing Naomi for the sake of (misplaced) [[DisproportionateRetribution vengeance]].]] In the space of ''one episode'', he went from loved to hated. Don't be surprised if fans now say he's worse that than [[{{Satan}} Lucifer]]. This got even worse in Season 9, where the writers can't seem to decide whether they want him to be [[spoiler:a smart and dangerous MagnificentBastard or an IneffectualSympatheticVillain who just wants people to like him,]] resulting in him constantly switching between the two rather contradictory personalities. Sometimes, within the span of a single episode. Also not helping is his tendency for his schemes to rely more on giving other characters the IdiotBall than actually doing something clever himself.



*** Meanwhile, Wincest shippers do not take kindly to Castiel, who they believe is the one who contributed to the show's SeasonalRot by [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks causing the show to abandon its "two brothers]] WalkingTheEarth" [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks format]], because he [[DieForOurShip competes with Sam for Dean's affection]] [[FirstGuyWins when Sam came first]].

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*** Meanwhile, Wincest shippers do not take kindly to Castiel, who they believe is the one who contributed to the show's SeasonalRot by [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks causing the show to abandon its "two brothers]] WalkingTheEarth" [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks format]], because he [[DieForOurShip competes with Sam Sam]] for Dean's affection]] affection [[FirstGuyWins when Sam came first]].



** Chuck help any fans in the early days who shipped the brothers with any female. It wasn't pretty. This, however, has faded over time. Since the show basically gave up trying to pair either brother with a female, at least until Eileen, any fans that do ship the brothers or Castiel in het pairings are basically left alone and/or treated as a curiosity.

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** Chuck help any fans in the early days who shipped the brothers with any female. It wasn't pretty. This, however, has faded over time. Since the show basically gave up trying to pair either brother with a female, at least until the fairly well-liked Eileen, any fans that do ship the brothers or Castiel in het pairings are basically left alone and/or treated as a curiosity.
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** Becky Rosen was disliked by a majority of fans due to serving as one big TakeThat towards [[LoonyFan overenthusiastic fangirls]] of the show, with most finding her annoying and grating rather than funny. However, it wasn't until the infamous [[Recap/SupernaturalS07E08SeasonSevenTimeForAWedding "Season Seven, Time For A Wedding"]] that made fans genuinely loathe her, in which she forces Sam to marry her via a LovePotion, with most of it being [[DoubleStandardAbuseFemaleOnMale played for laughs]], and she basically gets off [[KarmaHoudini scot-free]] in the end. It's safe to say that she became one of the most hated characters in the series after that.

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** Becky Rosen was disliked by a majority of fans due to serving as one big TakeThat towards [[LoonyFan overenthusiastic fangirls]] of the show, with most finding her annoying and grating rather than funny. However, it wasn't until the infamous [[Recap/SupernaturalS07E08SeasonSevenTimeForAWedding "Season Seven, Time For A Wedding"]] that made fans genuinely loathe her, in which she forces Sam to marry her via a LovePotion, with most of it being [[DoubleStandardAbuseFemaleOnMale [[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale played for laughs]], and she basically gets off [[KarmaHoudini scot-free]] in the end. It's safe to say that she became one of the most hated characters in the series after that.
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** Meg Masters, particularly in Season 1. She rivals her father, the aforementioned Azazel, in being a [[ManipulativeBitch manipulative]] [[SmugSnake snake]], yet her charisma, [[DarkActionGirl badassery]], and endless [[DeadpanSnarker snark]] make her quite entertaining to watch.

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* LoveToHate: ''Zachariah''. He's a {{Jerkass}} of the highest order and a massive SmugSnake, although he tends to be seen as one of the show's best antagonists due to [[HateSink how punchable he is]].

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** Azazel, the original BigBad. He's [[TheChessmaster responsible for a majority of events in the series]] and practically ruined Sam and Dean's lives, however he's well-loved by fans for his [[MagnificentBastard scheming nature]], [[FauxAffablyEvil dark charisma]], and being the Winchester brothers' [[ItsPersonal most personal enemy]]. Some were actually disappointed that he [[spoiler: didn't live past Season 2.]]
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He's a {{Jerkass}} of the highest order and a massive SmugSnake, although he tends to be seen as one of the show's best antagonists due to [[HateSink how punchable he is]].



** Becky Rosen was disliked by a majority of fans due to only serving as one big TakeThat towards [[LoonyFan overenthusiastic fangirls]] of the show, with most finding her annoying and grating rather than funny. However, it wasn't until the infamous [[Recap/SupernaturalS07E08SeasonSevenTimeForAWedding "Season Seven, Time For A Wedding"]] that fans genuinely loathed her, in which she forces Sam to marry her via a LovePotion, with most of it being [[DoubleStandardAbuseFemaleOnMale played for laughs]], and basically gets off [[KarmaHoudini scot-free]] at the end. It's safe to say that she became one of the most hated characters in the series after that.

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** Becky Rosen was disliked by a majority of fans due to only serving as one big TakeThat towards [[LoonyFan overenthusiastic fangirls]] of the show, with most finding her annoying and grating rather than funny. However, it wasn't until the infamous [[Recap/SupernaturalS07E08SeasonSevenTimeForAWedding "Season Seven, Time For A Wedding"]] that made fans genuinely loathed loathe her, in which she forces Sam to marry her via a LovePotion, with most of it being [[DoubleStandardAbuseFemaleOnMale played for laughs]], and she basically gets off [[KarmaHoudini scot-free]] at in the end. It's safe to say that she became one of the most hated characters in the series after that.
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** Billie is this [[spoiler:in regards to Death]], as she not only replaces a beloved character that "nobody" wanted replaced, but she's also quite petty in regards to her attitude towards the Winchesters. While it's clear that the writers were attempting to make her as distinct as possible in regards to her predecessor, the fact remains that not only was he an EnsembleDarkhorse, but Billie simply can't compare to him in regards to sheer presence. To add insult to injury in the eyes of the fans, not only is she (obviously) ''much'' less impressive [[spoiler:than Death]], but [[CharacterShilling everyone around her acts like she isn't.]]

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** Billie is this [[spoiler:in regards to Death]], as she not only replaces a beloved character that "nobody" ''nobody'' wanted replaced, but she's also quite petty in regards to her attitude towards the Winchesters. While it's clear that the writers were attempting to make her as distinct as possible in regards to her predecessor, the fact remains that not only was he an EnsembleDarkhorse, but Billie simply can't compare to him in regards to sheer presence. To add insult to injury in the eyes of the fans, not only is she (obviously) ''much'' less impressive [[spoiler:than Death]], but [[CharacterShilling everyone around her acts like she isn't.]]
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** Billie is this [[spoiler:in regards to Death]], as she not only replaces a beloved character that 'nobody' wanted replaced, but she's also quite petty in regards to her attitude towards the Winchesters. While it's clear that the writers were attempting to make her as distinct as possible in regards to her predecessor, the fact remains that not only was he an EnsembleDarkhorse, but Billie simply can't compare to him in regards to sheer presence. To add insult to injury in the eyes of the fans, not only is she (obviously) ''much'' less impressive [[spoiler:than Death]], but [[CharacterShilling everyone around her acts like she isn't.]]

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** Billie is this [[spoiler:in regards to Death]], as she not only replaces a beloved character that 'nobody' "nobody" wanted replaced, but she's also quite petty in regards to her attitude towards the Winchesters. While it's clear that the writers were attempting to make her as distinct as possible in regards to her predecessor, the fact remains that not only was he an EnsembleDarkhorse, but Billie simply can't compare to him in regards to sheer presence. To add insult to injury in the eyes of the fans, not only is she (obviously) ''much'' less impressive [[spoiler:than Death]], but [[CharacterShilling everyone around her acts like she isn't.]]

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* OnlyTheCreatorDoesItRight: Many fans blamed the Seasons 6 and 7 showrunner Sera Gamble for the show's less-than-stellar state after Eric Kripke, the creator and original showrunner, stepped down (though Kripke still had some input on the show). After Season 7, Gamble also stepped down and was replaced by Jeremy Carver. Whether or not he was doing better than her was a bit of an issue amongst the fandom, but both were generally seen as being inferior to Kripke. Now that the series has ended, the number of fans who consider the first [[https://youtu.be/oxYdpUjoFWM five seasons canon]], "Swan Song" the real ending and everything after to be glorified fanfiction is growing.

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Many fans blamed the Seasons 6 and 7 showrunner Sera Gamble for the show's less-than-stellar state after Eric Kripke, the creator and original showrunner, stepped down (though Kripke still had some input on the show). After Season 7, Gamble also stepped down and was replaced by Jeremy Carver. Whether or not he was doing better than her was a bit of an issue amongst the fandom, but both were generally seen as being inferior to Kripke. Now that the series has ended, the number of fans who consider the first [[https://youtu.be/oxYdpUjoFWM five seasons canon]], "Swan Song" the real ending and everything after to be glorified fanfiction is growing.growing.
** A lesser example, but some fans think the way Lucifer was written in Eric Kripke's run is better than how he was written in Jeremy Carver's run. In Kripke's run, Lucifer is a FauxAffablyEvil KnightTemplar but with a few HiddenDepths and genuine (if not extremely twisted) care for his brothers, making him somewhat of a complex villain. In Carver's run, any semblance of a redeeming quality in Lucifer is long gone, with him becoming an openly hostile, LaughablyEvil CardCarryingVillain. The two versions of him are so different that it can sometimes be hard to remember that they're supposed to be the [[SameCharacterButDifferent same character]]. While the Carver version is found by some to be a [[LoveToHate delightfully entertaining villain]], most found the Kripke version to have deeper characterization, making him more interesting.



** Billie is this [[spoiler:in regards to Death]], as she not only replaces a beloved character that ''nobody'' wanted replaced, but she's also quite petty in regards to her attitude towards the Winchesters. While it's clear that the writers were attempting to make her as distinct as possible in regards to her predecessor, the fact remains that not only was he an EnsembleDarkhorse, but Billie simply can't compare to him in regards to sheer presence. To add insult to injury in the eyes of the fans, not only is she (obviously) ''much'' less impressive [[spoiler:than Death]], but [[CharacterShilling everyone around her acts like she isn't.]]

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** Billie is this [[spoiler:in regards to Death]], as she not only replaces a beloved character that ''nobody'' 'nobody' wanted replaced, but she's also quite petty in regards to her attitude towards the Winchesters. While it's clear that the writers were attempting to make her as distinct as possible in regards to her predecessor, the fact remains that not only was he an EnsembleDarkhorse, but Billie simply can't compare to him in regards to sheer presence. To add insult to injury in the eyes of the fans, not only is she (obviously) ''much'' less impressive [[spoiler:than Death]], but [[CharacterShilling everyone around her acts like she isn't.]]



* TheyChangedItNowItSuks: Some people think the way Lucifer was written in Eric Kripke's run is better than how he was written in Jeremy Carver's run. In Kripke's run, Lucifer is a FauxAffablyEvil KnightTemplar but with a few HiddenDepths and genuine (if not extremely twisted) care for his brothers, making him somewhat of a complex villain. In Carver's run, any semblance of a redeeming quality in Lucifer is long gone, with him becoming an openly hostile, LaughablyEvil CardCarryingVillain. The two versions of him are so different that it can sometimes be hard to remember that they're supposed to be the [[SameCharacterButDifferent same character]]. While the Carver version is found by some to be a [[LoveToHate delightfully entertaining villain]], most found the Kripke version to have deeper characterization, making him more interesting.
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* OvershadowedByControversy: Season 15, while the final season of the series, tends to be more well-known for the infamous scene where [[LoveConfession Castiel declares his love for Dean]], effectively rendering [[FanPreferredCouple Destiel]] canon, only for him be killed in a [[{{Narm}} hilariously anticlimactic fashion]] almost immediately after, making for one of the fastest BuryYourGays moments ''ever'' and pissing off both shippers and non shippers alike. Even those who didn't watch the show [[ItWasHisSled became aware of it]] due to how much it trended on social media, up to the point where it's widely considered an example of how PanderingToTheBase can go horribly wrong.

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* MyRealDaddy: Not all, but some people think the way Lucifer was written in Eric Kripke's run is better than how he was written in Jeremy Carver's run. In Kripke's run, Lucifer is a FauxAffablyEvil KnightTemplar but with a few HiddenDepths and genuine (if not extremely twisted) care for his brothers, making him somewhat of a complex villain. In Carver's run, any semblance of a redeeming quality in Lucifer is long gone, with him becoming an openly hostile, LaughablyEvil CardCarryingVillain. The two versions of him are so different that it can sometimes be hard to remember that they're supposed to be the [[SameCharacterButDifferent same character]]. While the Carver version is found by some to be a [[LoveToHate delightfully entertaining villain]], most found the Kripke version to have deeper characterization, making him more interesting.


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* TheyChangedItNowItSuks: Some people think the way Lucifer was written in Eric Kripke's run is better than how he was written in Jeremy Carver's run. In Kripke's run, Lucifer is a FauxAffablyEvil KnightTemplar but with a few HiddenDepths and genuine (if not extremely twisted) care for his brothers, making him somewhat of a complex villain. In Carver's run, any semblance of a redeeming quality in Lucifer is long gone, with him becoming an openly hostile, LaughablyEvil CardCarryingVillain. The two versions of him are so different that it can sometimes be hard to remember that they're supposed to be the [[SameCharacterButDifferent same character]]. While the Carver version is found by some to be a [[LoveToHate delightfully entertaining villain]], most found the Kripke version to have deeper characterization, making him more interesting.
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* MyRealDaddy: Not all, but some people think the way Lucifer was written in Eric Kripke's run is better than how he was written in Jeremy Carver's run. In Kripke's run, Lucifer is a FauxAffablyEvil KnightTemplar but with a few HiddenDepths and genuine (if not extremely twisted) care for his brothers, making him somewhat of a complex villain. In Carver's run, any semblance of a redeeming quality in Lucifer is long gone, with him becoming an openly hostile, LaughablyEvil CardCarryingVillain. The two versions of him are so different that it can sometimes be hard to remember that they're supposed to be the [[SameCharacterButDifferent same character]]. While the Carver version is found by some to be a [[LoveToHate delightfully entertaining villain]], most found the Kripke version to have deeper characterization, making him more interesting.
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* OvershadowedByControversy: Among non-viewers at least, the show tends to be more well-known for its ''notoriously'' aggressive fanbase full of YaoiFangirls who love to pair the two main characters and [[IncestYayShipping brothers]] together, which extends to [[ActorShipping shipping their actors in real life]]. Infamously, several fans actually began stalking the actors and sending threatening messages to their families due to having [[InsaneTrollLogic convinced themselves]] they were ''genuinely'' dating and that there was an actual homophobic conspiracy by the studio to hide their relationship, including [[TheBeard fake wives and children]]. It's gotten to the point that ''Supernatural'' has become ''the'' TropeCodifier for the YokoOhNo "tinhat" brand of ActorShipping, despite ''Film/TheLordOfTheRings'' fandom having technically been the first. The show being accused of [[PanderingToTheBase pandering to these fans]] by killing off women who get too close to the two really hasn't helped matters, since it absolutely ''reeks'' of the long-discarded StuffedInTheFridge trope.
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* OvershadowedByControversy: Among non-viewers at least, the show tends to be more well-known for its ''notoriously'' aggressive fanbase full of YaoiFangirls who love to pair the two main characters and [[IncestYayShipping brothers]] together, which extends to [[ActorShipping shipping their actors in real life]]. Infamously, several fans actually began stalking the actors and sending threatening messages to their families due to having [[InsaneTrollLogic convinced themselves]] they were ''genuinely'' dating and that there was an actual homophobic conspiracy by the studio to hide their relationship, including [[TheBeard fake wives and children]]. It's gotten to the point that ''Supernatural'' has become ''the'' TropeCodifier for the YokoOhNo brand of ActorShipping. The show being accused of [[PanderingToTheBase pandering to these fans]] by killing off women who get too close to the two really hasn't helped matters, since it absolutely ''reeks'' of the long-discarded StuffedInTheFridge trope.

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* OvershadowedByControversy: Among non-viewers at least, the show tends to be more well-known for its ''notoriously'' aggressive fanbase full of YaoiFangirls who love to pair the two main characters and [[IncestYayShipping brothers]] together, which extends to [[ActorShipping shipping their actors in real life]]. Infamously, several fans actually began stalking the actors and sending threatening messages to their families due to having [[InsaneTrollLogic convinced themselves]] they were ''genuinely'' dating and that there was an actual homophobic conspiracy by the studio to hide their relationship, including [[TheBeard fake wives and children]]. It's gotten to the point that ''Supernatural'' has become ''the'' TropeCodifier for the YokoOhNo "tinhat" brand of ActorShipping.ActorShipping, despite ''Film/TheLordOfTheRings'' fandom having technically been the first. The show being accused of [[PanderingToTheBase pandering to these fans]] by killing off women who get too close to the two really hasn't helped matters, since it absolutely ''reeks'' of the long-discarded StuffedInTheFridge trope.
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* OvershadowedByControversy: Among non-viewers at least, the show tends to be more well-known for its ''notoriously'' aggressive fanbase full of YaoiFangirls who love to pair the two main characters and [[IncestYayShipping brothers]] together, which extends to [[ActorShipping shipping their actors in real life]]. Infamously, several fans actually began stalking the actors and sending threatening messages to their families due to having [[InsaneTrollLogic convinced themselves]] they were ''genuinely'' dating and that there was an actual homophobic conspiracy by the studio to hide their relationship, including [[TheBeard fake wives and children]]. The show being accused of [[PanderingToTheBase pandering to these fans]] by killing off women who get too close to the two really hasn't helped matters, since it absolutely ''reeks'' of the long-discarded StuffedInTheFridge trope.

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* OvershadowedByControversy: Among non-viewers at least, the show tends to be more well-known for its ''notoriously'' aggressive fanbase full of YaoiFangirls who love to pair the two main characters and [[IncestYayShipping brothers]] together, which extends to [[ActorShipping shipping their actors in real life]]. Infamously, several fans actually began stalking the actors and sending threatening messages to their families due to having [[InsaneTrollLogic convinced themselves]] they were ''genuinely'' dating and that there was an actual homophobic conspiracy by the studio to hide their relationship, including [[TheBeard fake wives and children]]. It's gotten to the point that ''Supernatural'' has become ''the'' TropeCodifier for the YokoOhNo brand of ActorShipping. The show being accused of [[PanderingToTheBase pandering to these fans]] by killing off women who get too close to the two really hasn't helped matters, since it absolutely ''reeks'' of the long-discarded StuffedInTheFridge trope.
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* OvershadowedByControversy: Among non-viewers at least, the show tends to be more well-known for its ''notoriously'' aggressive fanbase full of YaoiFangirls who love to pair the two main characters and [[IncestYayShipping brothers]] together, which extends to [[ActorShipping shipping their actors in real life]]. Infamously, several fans actually began stalking the actors and sending threatening messages to their families due to having [[InsaneTrollLogic convinced themselves]] they were ''genuinely'' dating and that there was an actual homophobic conspiracy by the studio to hide their relationship, including [[TheBeard fake wives and children]]. The show being accused of attempting to [[PanderingToTheBase pander to these fans]] hasn't helped matters either.

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** Jo [[DieForOurShip received tons of hate]] when the show was in its prime, particularly [[DieForOurShip among fans who shipped Dean with Sam]], with many finding her dull and uninteresting DamselInDistress and a poor LoveInterest for Dean. As a result, she was written out of the show shortly after the second season. However, her return in season 5 in which she received [[spoiler: [[TearJerker an incredibly emotional death scene]] and [[DefiantToTheEnd epic final stand]]]] won [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap some people over]]. This only increased with time, as fans new to the series repeatedly stated their confusion as to why Jo received so much hate early on, causing old fans of to look back at her character and actually agree that she wasn't as bad as they made her out to be. Nowadays, a lot of her previous hate has been chalked up to "Wincest" shippers who just weren't happy that their ship wouldn't happen.

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** Jo [[DieForOurShip received tons of hate]] when the show was in its prime, particularly [[DieForOurShip [[IncestYayShipping among fans who shipped Dean with Sam]], with many finding her dull and uninteresting DamselInDistress and a poor LoveInterest for Dean. As a result, she was written out of the show shortly after the second season. However, her return in season 5 in which she received [[spoiler: [[TearJerker an incredibly emotional death scene]] and [[DefiantToTheEnd epic final stand]]]] won [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap some people over]]. This only increased with time, as fans new to the series repeatedly stated their confusion as to why Jo received so much hate early on, causing old fans of to look back at her character and actually agree that she wasn't as bad as they made her out to be. Nowadays, a lot of her previous hate has been chalked up to "Wincest" shippers who just weren't happy that their ship wouldn't happen.
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** Jo [[TheScrappy received tons of hate]] when the show was in its prime, particularly [[DieForOurShip among fans who]] [[IncestYayShipping shipped Dean with Sam]], with many finding her dull and uninteresting DamselInDistress and a poor LoveInterest for Dean. As a result, she was written out of the show shortly after the second season. However, her return in season 5 in which she received [[spoiler: [[TearJerker an incredibly emotional death scene]] and [[DefiantToTheEnd epic final stand]]]] [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap won some people over]]. This only increased with time, as fans new to the series repeatedly stated their confusion as to why Jo received so much hate early on, causing old fans of to look back at her character and actually agree that she wasn't as bad as they made her out to be. Nowadays, a lot of her previous hate has been chalked up to "Wincest" shippers who just weren't happy that their ship wouldn't happen.

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** Jo [[TheScrappy [[DieForOurShip received tons of hate]] when the show was in its prime, particularly [[DieForOurShip among fans who]] [[IncestYayShipping who shipped Dean with Sam]], with many finding her dull and uninteresting DamselInDistress and a poor LoveInterest for Dean. As a result, she was written out of the show shortly after the second season. However, her return in season 5 in which she received [[spoiler: [[TearJerker an incredibly emotional death scene]] and [[DefiantToTheEnd epic final stand]]]] won [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap won some people over]]. This only increased with time, as fans new to the series repeatedly stated their confusion as to why Jo received so much hate early on, causing old fans of to look back at her character and actually agree that she wasn't as bad as they made her out to be. Nowadays, a lot of her previous hate has been chalked up to "Wincest" shippers who just weren't happy that their ship wouldn't happen.
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** Jo [[TheScrappy received tons of hate]] when the show was in its prime, particularly [[DieForOurShip among fans who]] [[IncestYayShipping shipped Dean with Sam]], with many finding her dull and uninteresting DamselInDistress and a poor LoveInterest for Dean. As a result, she was written out of the show shortly after the second season. However, her return in season 5 in which she received [[spoiler: [[TearJerker an incredibly emotional death scene]] and [[DefiantToTheEnd epic final stand]]]] [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap won some people over]]. This only increased with time, as fans new to the series stated their confusion as to why Jo received so much hate early on, causing old fans of the show to look back at her character and actually agree with new fans that she wasn't as bad as they made her out to be.

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** Jo [[TheScrappy received tons of hate]] when the show was in its prime, particularly [[DieForOurShip among fans who]] [[IncestYayShipping shipped Dean with Sam]], with many finding her dull and uninteresting DamselInDistress and a poor LoveInterest for Dean. As a result, she was written out of the show shortly after the second season. However, her return in season 5 in which she received [[spoiler: [[TearJerker an incredibly emotional death scene]] and [[DefiantToTheEnd epic final stand]]]] [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap won some people over]]. This only increased with time, as fans new to the series repeatedly stated their confusion as to why Jo received so much hate early on, causing old fans of the show to look back at her character and actually agree with new fans that she wasn't as bad as they made her out to be. Nowadays, a lot of her previous hate has been chalked up to "Wincest" shippers who just weren't happy that their ship wouldn't happen.
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** Jo [[TheScrappy received tons of hate]] when the show was in its prime, particularly [[DieForOurShip among fans who]] [[IncestYayShipping shipped Dean with Sam]], with many finding her dull and uninteresting DamselInDistress and a poor LoveInterest for Dean. As a result, she was written out of the show shortly after the second season. However, her return in season 5 in which she received [[spoiler: [[TearJerker an incredibly emotional death scene]] and [[DefiantToTheEnd epic final stand]]]] [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap won some people over]]. This only increased with time, as fans new to the series stated their confusion as to why Jo received so much hate early on, causing old fans of the show to look back at her character and actually agree with new fans that she wasn't as bad as they made her out to be.
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** Becky Rosen was disliked by a majority of fans due to only serving as one big TakeThat towards [[LoonyFan overenthusiastic fangirls]] of the show, with most finding her annoying and grating rather than funny. However, it wasn't until the infamous [[Recap/SupernaturalS07E08SeasonSevenTimeForAWedding "Season Seven, Time For A Wedding"]] that fans genuinely loathed her, in which she forces Sam to marry her via a LovePotion, with most of it being [[DoubleStandardAbuseFemaleOnMale played for laughs]], and basically gets off [[KarmaHoudini scot-free]] at the end. Safe to say, she became one of the most hated characters in the series after that.

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** Becky Rosen was disliked by a majority of fans due to only serving as one big TakeThat towards [[LoonyFan overenthusiastic fangirls]] of the show, with most finding her annoying and grating rather than funny. However, it wasn't until the infamous [[Recap/SupernaturalS07E08SeasonSevenTimeForAWedding "Season Seven, Time For A Wedding"]] that fans genuinely loathed her, in which she forces Sam to marry her via a LovePotion, with most of it being [[DoubleStandardAbuseFemaleOnMale played for laughs]], and basically gets off [[KarmaHoudini scot-free]] at the end. Safe It's safe to say, say that she became one of the most hated characters in the series after that.
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** Becky Rosen was disliked by a majority of fans due to only serving as one big TakeThat towards [[LoonyFan overenthusiastic fangirls]] of the show, with most finding her annoying and grating rather than funny. However, it wasn't until the infamous [[Recap/{{Supernatural}}S07E08SeasonSevenTimeForAWedding "Season Seven, Time For A Wedding"]] that fans genuinely loathed her, in which she forces Sam to marry her via a LovePotion, with most of it being [[DoubleStandardAbuseFemaleOnMale played for laughs]], and basically gets off [[KarmaHoudini scot-free]] at the end. Safe to say, she became one of the most hated characters in the series after that.

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** Becky Rosen was disliked by a majority of fans due to only serving as one big TakeThat towards [[LoonyFan overenthusiastic fangirls]] of the show, with most finding her annoying and grating rather than funny. However, it wasn't until the infamous [[Recap/{{Supernatural}}S07E08SeasonSevenTimeForAWedding [[Recap/SupernaturalS07E08SeasonSevenTimeForAWedding "Season Seven, Time For A Wedding"]] that fans genuinely loathed her, in which she forces Sam to marry her via a LovePotion, with most of it being [[DoubleStandardAbuseFemaleOnMale played for laughs]], and basically gets off [[KarmaHoudini scot-free]] at the end. Safe to say, she became one of the most hated characters in the series after that.

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