History YMMV / Supernatural

12th Jan '17 5:44:27 PM MagBas
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** The {{Anvilicious}}ly {{Adorkable}} Charlie Bradbury. A sweet, funny character doubling as a wonderful bit of positive representation for gays, geeks, and girls alike who is treated as a hero in her own right instead of the usual treatment of being a sidekick to the brothers, a loser, or an evil bitch, and so needs to stay alive and appear in more episodes? ''Or'' an offensive portrayal of aforementioned groups and an unbearable CanonSue and SelfInsert for Robbie Thompson who usurps any episode she appears in, got way too close to the brothers in way too little time, and should've stayed dead in "Slumber Party"? The opinion you'll get depends on what site you're on.

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** The {{Anvilicious}}ly {{Adorkable}} Charlie Bradbury. A sweet, funny character doubling as a wonderful bit of positive representation for gays, geeks, and girls alike who is treated as a hero in her own right instead of the usual treatment of being a sidekick to the brothers, a loser, or an evil bitch, and so needs to stay alive and appear in more episodes? ''Or'' an offensive portrayal of aforementioned groups and an unbearable CanonSue and SelfInsert for Robbie Thompson who usurps any episode she appears in, got way too close to the brothers in way too little time, and should've stayed dead in "Slumber Party"? The opinion you'll get depends on what site you're on.



* VillainSue: Bela consistently catches the Winchesters flat-footed, to the point of making many viewers wonder if she has some kind of permanent spell about her that reduces the Winchesters' IQ points.
18th Dec '16 2:15:44 PM TitoMosquito
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** "I killed Hitler."
7th Dec '16 12:55:38 AM YankeeJohn
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** Likewise, others may recognize Duane Tanner from season 2's "Croatoan" as either [[Series/{{Homeland}} Mike Faber]] or [[Series/TheBlacklist Donald Ressler]].
25th Nov '16 8:49:07 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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** Sarah Palin becoming president is considered a sign of the Apocalypse.

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** Sarah Palin UsefulNotes/SarahPalin becoming president is considered a sign of the Apocalypse.
6th Nov '16 4:17:15 PM allfictions
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** Lucifer gets this from quite a few fans, especially after the "[[spoiler:Hallucifer]]" episodes that portrayed him as much funnier than he was initially; fans tend to forget that what was portrayed there [[spoiler:was not his actual personality]]. His "humor", [[TheWoobie woobie]] and [[TheUnfavorite unfavorite]] roles that compare him to Sam, and the idea that God and heaven are all jerks are all played up in these interpretations of him, while ignoring or downplaying the terrible things he did.

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** Lucifer gets this from quite a few fans, especially after the "[[spoiler:Hallucifer]]" episodes that portrayed him as much funnier than he was initially; fans tend to forget that what was portrayed there [[spoiler:was not his actual personality]]. His "humor", [[TheWoobie woobie]] and [[TheUnfavorite unfavorite]] roles that compare him to Sam, and the idea that God and heaven Heaven are all jerks are all played up in these interpretations of him, while ignoring or downplaying the terrible things he did.



** Dean's nightmare in "Dream a Little Dream of Me" has him confronting a version of himself who has died after his deal has expired, has gone to hell, and become a demon, with the demon Dean screaming "You're going to die! ''This'' is what you're going to become!" [[spoiler: Although he doesn't become a demon following his death at the end of season three, he does become one at the end of season nine.]]
** Lucifer's whole season 5 attempt to bring about the apocalypse came from a deep disgust at humanity, and resentment that God threw him down into hell for it. [[spoiler:In "Don't Call Me Shurley", it turns out that Chuck has actually come around to agreeing with his favorite son about the [[HumansAreBastards toxicity of human nature]] since then, which explains why he was willing to let Lucifer burn it all down and why he's willing to let Amara wipe everything out now. It also explains why Chuck refuses to see Lucifer as the bad guy.]]

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** Dean's nightmare in "Dream a Little Dream of Me" has him confronting a version of himself who has died after his deal has expired, has gone to hell, Hell, and become a demon, with the demon Dean screaming "You're going to die! ''This'' is what you're going to become!" [[spoiler: Although he doesn't become a demon following his death at the end of season three, he does become one at the end of season nine.]]
** Lucifer's whole season 5 attempt to bring about the apocalypse came from a deep disgust at humanity, and resentment that God threw him down into hell Hell for it. [[spoiler:In "Don't Call Me Shurley", it turns out that Chuck has actually come around to agreeing with his favorite son about the [[HumansAreBastards toxicity of human nature]] since then, which explains why he was willing to let Lucifer burn it all down and why he's willing to let Amara wipe everything out now. It also explains why Chuck refuses to see Lucifer as the bad guy.]]



* OlderThanTheyThink: To most Christian viewers, and other Westerners, Lucifer's origin story probably sounds unique. It's actually taken directly from Islam. The idea of Satan refusing to honor humanity in turn can be traced to the apocryphal Life of Adam and Eve written circa First Century A.D./C.E. This is actually common with many religious traditions influencing one another. Great Flood Myths, for example, long predate Christianity, Islam and Judaism. So too did the idea of man being made from clay long ago exist in the beliefs of the Ancient Sumerians, Native Americans and Ancient Greeks but now exists in Genesis and the Qur'an.
* OneSceneWonder: Samhain gets summoned and sent back to hell to never be seen again within the same episode, but he leaves a hell of an impression.

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* OlderThanTheyThink: To most Christian viewers, and other Westerners, Lucifer's origin story probably sounds unique. It's actually taken directly from Islam. UsefulNotes/Islam. The idea of Satan refusing to honor humanity in turn can be traced to the apocryphal Life of Adam and Eve written circa First 1st Century A.D./C.E. This is actually common with many religious traditions influencing one another. Great Flood Myths, for example, long predate Christianity, Islam and Judaism. So too did the idea of man being made from clay long ago exist in the beliefs of the Ancient Sumerians, Native Americans and Ancient Greeks but now exists in Genesis and the Qur'an.
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* OneSceneWonder: Samhain gets summoned and sent back to hell Hell to never be seen again within the same episode, but he leaves a hell of an impression.



*** Naomi, after being hyped all season as a villain who heads heaven's Secret Service and had history with Crowley, does a brief HeelFaceTurn and is [[spoiler:promptly killed off]] as her role as Castiel's manipulator and the focus of the heaven portions of the arc are both hijacked by [[spoiler:Metatron.]]

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*** Naomi, after being hyped all season as a villain who heads heaven's Heaven's Secret Service and had history with Crowley, does a brief HeelFaceTurn and is [[spoiler:promptly killed off]] as her role as Castiel's manipulator and the focus of the heaven Heaven portions of the arc are both hijacked by [[spoiler:Metatron.]]



** Anna from Seasons 4-5, a kind, pretty angel who helped Sam and Dean (even got into bed with Dean) and was meant to be their angel ally, until Castiel proved to be more popular. [[spoiler:She was taken to heaven and tortured both physically and mentally until she was forced to believe that the only way to avert the apocalypse was to kill Sam and Dean before they were born. Unlike others who Sam and Dean have fought to bring back to their side they show absolutely no hesitation about trying to stop her or talk her out of it and even allow her to die painfully. Note that when Castiel became god in season 6/7 he did much worse and was forgiven very easily.]]

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** Anna from Seasons 4-5, a kind, pretty angel who helped Sam and Dean (even got into bed with Dean) and was meant to be their angel ally, until Castiel proved to be more popular. [[spoiler:She was taken to heaven Heaven and tortured both physically and mentally until she was forced to believe that the only way to avert the apocalypse was to kill Sam and Dean before they were born. Unlike others who Sam and Dean have fought to bring back to their side they show absolutely no hesitation about trying to stop her or talk her out of it and even allow her to die painfully. Note that when Castiel became god in season 6/7 he did much worse and was forgiven very easily.]]



** The reveal that [[spoiler:closing the gates of heaven]] in Season 9, also means that now none of the dead can [[spoiler:go to heaven]], and are [[spoiler:trapped in the veil destined to become ghosts]], is certainly an interesting story idea with a lot of far reaching consequences and provided some much needed emphasis as to why [[spoiler:heaven's gates had to be reopened]]. With the added concern that its only a matter of time before all these spirits turn hostile, and its now impossible to stop them. The subject gets attention for one episode and then writers seem to forget it ever happened with none of the consequences explored or even a single line that it had been resolved.

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** The reveal that [[spoiler:closing the gates of heaven]] Heaven]] in Season 9, also means that now none of the dead can [[spoiler:go to heaven]], Heaven]], and are [[spoiler:trapped in the veil Veil destined to become ghosts]], is certainly an interesting story idea with a lot of far reaching consequences and provided some much needed emphasis as to why [[spoiler:heaven's [[spoiler:Heaven's gates had to be reopened]]. With the added concern that its only a matter of time before all these spirits turn hostile, and its now impossible to stop them. The subject gets attention for one episode and then writers seem to forget it ever happened with none of the consequences explored or even a single line that it had been resolved.
4th Nov '16 7:18:05 PM ApeAccount
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* OutOfCharacterMoment: Lucifer got one in "We Happy Few" [[spoiler: when he locked himself in Sam's room and said "If Dad has something to say to me I'll hear it from him! Until then I'll be in my room!" like a rebelling teenager. The show had often made use of father/son metaphor for his relationship with God and his rebellion but had always portrayed it as being on a much more massive scale, so he could at once be a rebelling son to God and still a master manipulator and evil monster to humanity. This was the first time it had portrayed him just as the son without any hint of the monster.]]
27th Oct '16 1:23:53 PM Silverblade2
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** In one episode, the brothers finds a picture of their father holding a bat. The actor would later join ''Series/TheWalkingDead'' as Negan who enjoys killing people with a bat.
10th Oct '16 3:38:19 AM JeaniWeiner
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* WhatAnIdiot: Minor character Garth, a hunter we only hear on the phone with Bobby asking him for advice on a vampire case in season 6. Bobby tells him to call the FBI to handle it, but Garth calls Bobby's fake FBI number instead. We finally meet Garth in a Season 7 episode and it seems he really is that stupid in person, although even Garth thought the victim of the week was an idiot for selling her soul. As of Season 8, Garth seems to have [[TookALevelInBadass ground a few dozen levels]], stepping into Bobby's shoes and edging away from this and into BunnyEarsLawyer territory.

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Minor character Garth, a hunter we only hear on the phone with Bobby asking him for advice on a vampire case in season 6. Bobby tells him to call the FBI to handle it, but Garth calls Bobby's fake FBI number instead. We finally meet Garth in a Season 7 episode and it seems he really is that stupid in person, although even Garth thought the victim of the week was an idiot for selling her soul. As of Season 8, Garth seems to have [[TookALevelInBadass ground a few dozen levels]], stepping into Bobby's shoes and edging away from this and into BunnyEarsLawyer territory.territory.
** Several of the children from 'Everybody Loves A Clown'- they appear old enough that they SHOULD know better than to let a complete stranger into their home, even if it looks like a friendly clown.
9th Oct '16 9:50:48 PM ApeAccount
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* OlderThanTheyThink: To most Christian viewers, and other Westerners, Lucifer's origin story probably sounds unique. It's actually taken directly from Islam. The idea of Satan refusing to honor humanity in turn can be traced to the apocryphal Life of Adam and Eve written circa First Century A.D./C.E.

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* OlderThanTheyThink: To most Christian viewers, and other Westerners, Lucifer's origin story probably sounds unique. It's actually taken directly from Islam. The idea of Satan refusing to honor humanity in turn can be traced to the apocryphal Life of Adam and Eve written circa First Century A.D./C.E. This is actually common with many religious traditions influencing one another. Great Flood Myths, for example, long predate Christianity, Islam and Judaism. So too did the idea of man being made from clay long ago exist in the beliefs of the Ancient Sumerians, Native Americans and Ancient Greeks but now exists in Genesis and the Qur'an.
9th Oct '16 9:22:11 PM ApeAccount
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*** What made it even worse was that reassembling Abaddon was an idiot plot in itself. There was no reason that they needed to cure Abaddon rather than another demon. Yet instead of going out and capturing any generic low level demon to use (the type that they know how to kill and do often) they just decided to reassemble one of the most powerful demons they'd even encountered...why? They already knew they had no way to kill her and that she was extremely dangerous to have around. Yet Sam suggested summoning a demon, Dean suggested putting Abaddon back together, and for one of the few times in the series the characters don't even fight for a second over the decision and just go with Dean's idea immediately.
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