History YMMV / SuicideSilence

* CondemnedByHistory: Despite being scoffed at by metal purists, they managed to become hugely successful during the deathcore boom of the late 2000s, and even the death of Mitch Lucker seemed to be nothing but a speed bump after his replacement by Eddie Hermida. However, this good luck would come to a screeching halt with the release of their self-titled fifth album, which saw them make a GenreShift to NuMetal. Professional critics were ambivalent about the album, but fans were outraged by what they saw as the band selling out. To make matters worse, Eddie Hermida was accused of sexual harassment. While he managed to escape legal consequences, the damage was done. While the band would return to their classic sound with ''Become The Hunter'' and ''Remember... You Must Die'', both albums have been poor sellers [[CriticalDissonance despite a positive reception from critics]]. Today, the band stands as another cautionary tale of what happens when you piss off your fans.

* CondemnedByHistory: Despite being scoffed at by metal purists, they managed to become hugely successful during the deathcore boom of the late 2000s, and even the death of Mitch Lucker seemed to be nothing but a speed bump after his replacement by Eddie Hermida. However, this good luck would come to a screeching halt with the release of their self-titled fifth album, which saw them make a GenreShift to nu metal. Professional critics were ambivalent about the album, but fans were outraged by what they saw as the band selling out. To make matters worse, Eddie Hermida was accused of sexual harassment. While he managed to escape legal consequences, the damage was done. While the band would return to their classic sound with ''Become The Hunter'' and ''Remember...You Must Die'', both albums have been poor sellers [[CriticalDissonance despite a positive reception from critics]]. Today, the band stands as another cautionary tale of what happens when you piss off your fans.

* CondemnedByHistory: Suicide Silence had an instant breakthrough and have had successful record after record, but they ultimately blew it with their self-titled which was blatant NuMetal. Suicide Silence tried to return to their roots with ''Become the Hunter'', however it was too little too late. ''Become the Hunter'' missed the Billboard 200 and ultimately serves as an example of to never alienate your fanbase.
* CriticalDissonance: Their first two albums were well-received, however due to their EmoTeen image, the band was quickly derided by pretty much every serious DeathMetal fan out there. By the time Mitch Lucker died, however, they gained considerable rep from many DM fans.

** People are already saying this about new vocalist Eddie Hermida, never mind the self-titled album which is straight-up nu metal a la Korn.

* DeadArtistsAreBetter: Mitch's wife herself was willing to admit he had a serious drinking problem and died in a reckless and stupid way. This trope, and the wider knowledge of what a generally nice person Mitch was have definitely protected his image though.
* FaceOfTheBand: Mitch Lucker, before his death of course.

* HarsherInHindsight: That Christmas where Lucker donated to a Variety Boys & Girls Club? That was his last one.
* SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments: Above, however, is probably one of the sweetest things anyone could have done.

* WinBackTheCrowd: After a ''very'' long DorkAge that had rendered the band OvershadowedByControversy, most people had written them off as a has-been legacy act. ''Remember... You Must Die'' wound up giving them a second lease on life; while the singles had people cautiously optimistic, the album was almost unanimously viewed as their best since the Mitch era.

** The chorus of the single off their self-titled, "Doris", brought us "Tee-hee!'"[[note]] the actual lyrics are "to be..." but the falsetto Eddie Hermida sings the lyrics in sounds like giggling.[[/note]]

* DeaderThanDisco: Suicide Silence had an instant breakthrough and have had successful record after record, but they ultimately blew it with their self-titled which was blatant NuMetal. Suicide Silence tried to return to their roots with ''Become the Hunter'', however it was too little too late. ''Become the Hunter'' missed the Billboard 200 and ultimately serves as an example of to never alienate your fanbase. "Tee-hee!"

* OvershadowedByControversy: There are multiple reasons why the modern iteration of the band is generally treated like a laughingstock: the disastrous reception of their self-titled and their [[DearNegativeReader abysmal handling]] of the situation did a lot to hurt their reputation, but the public outing of Eddie for attempting to groom an unstable and obsessed young female fan did just as much, if not more (especially when they had to rerecord a song for ''VideoGame/DevilMayCry5'' with a different vocalist just so their contribution wouldn't be cut), as did some embarrassing live performances (namely an off-key cover of [[Music/{{Nirvana}} "Smells Like Teen Spirit"]], as well as an attempt by Eddie to get a South American festival crowd chant going for [[AudienceParticipationSong "No Pity for a Coward"]] and barely getting one); it is telling that most fan comments on their social media pages are hostile and mocking and their overall current reception borders on DeaderThanDisco. This was even further cemented when ''Rare Ass Shit'' was announced; instead of rejoicing at the ability to legitimately obtain the self-titled EP (which had been [[KeepCirculatingTheTapes impossible to obtain]] without torrenting it or paying massive amounts of money online for rare used copies for over a decade), most fans responded with some variation of "you really must be hurting for money" or "just break up already".

* HarsherInHindsight[=/=]TearJerker: That Christmas where Lucker donated to a Variety Boys & Girls Club? That was his last one.
** Also, the song, "'''Y'''ou '''O'''nly '''L'''ive '''O'''nce".

* TheScrappy: For a while, they were one, [[CriticalDissonance not even so much for their music]], but rather their obnoxious fanbase and image, but [[DeadArtistsAreBetter Mitch's death was the catalyst for quite a bit of reassessment.]]

* TooCoolToLive: Mitch Lucker. Everyone who has met him has said that Mitch is a great, warm, welcoming guy and a great father who made a bad life decision that ultimately led to a fatal mistake.

* CriticalDissonance: Their first two albums were well-received, however due to their EmoTeen image, the band easily became SnarkBait for pretty much every serious DeathMetal fan out there. By the time Mitch Lucker died, however, they gained considerable rep from many DM fans.

** Debates range as to whether or not Eddie is on par with Lucker, minus all the [[OvershadowedByControversy drama surrounding him]].

* OvershadowedByControversy: There are multiple reasons why the modern iteration of the band is generally treated like a laughingstock: the disastrous reception of their self-titled and their [[DearNegativeReader abysmal handling]] of the situation did a lot to hurt their reputation, but the public outing of Eddie for attempting to groom an unstable and obsessed young female fan did just as much, if not more (especially when they had to rerecord a song for a video game with a different vocalist just so their contribution wouldn't be cut), as did some embarrassing live performances (namely an off-key cover of [[Music/{{Nirvana}} "Smells Like Teen Spirit"]], as well as an attempt by Eddie to get a South American festival crowd chant going for [[AudienceParticipationSong "No Pity for a Coward"]] and barely getting one); it is telling that most fan comments on their social media pages are hostile and mocking and their overall current reception borders on DeaderThanDisco. This was even further cemented when ''Rare Ass Shit'' was announced; instead of rejoicing at the ability to legitimately obtain the self-titled EP (which had been [[KeepCirculatingTheTapes impossible to obtain]] without torrenting it or paying massive amounts of money online for rare used copies for over a decade), most fans responded with some variation of "you really must be hurting for money" or "just break up already".

** Debates range on whether or not Eddie is in par with Lucker, minus all the [[OvershadowedByControversy drama surrounding him]].

* DeadArtistsAreBetter: Mitch's wife herself was willing to admit he had a serious drinking problem and died in a reckless and stupid way. This trope, and the wider knowledge of what a generally nice person Mitch was have definitely protected his image though

** The chorus of the single off their self-titled, Doris, brought us "Tee-hee!'"[[note]] the actual lyrics are "to be..." but the falsetto Eddie Hermida sings the lyrics in sounds like giggling.[[/note]]
* MisBlamed: Eddie was the prime scapegoat for the self-titled, but in reality, he was one of the less responsible parties. The fact of the matter is that Lucker was just as much of a Korn fan as Garza and Lopez (who were always the nu metal guys in the band, and who were the driving force behind the self-titled's creation) and had been taking vocal lessons before his death to expand into cleans, and had in fact written out Jonathan Davis' guest vocal parts on "Witness the Addiction". Furthermore, their music from ''No Time to Bleed'' onward had had extremely prominent nu metal elements. Lastly, Garza confirmed in an interview that the self-titled was originally slated to be the followup to ''The Black Crown'', and the only reason that ''You Can't Stop Me'' even happened was because Lucker's death threw a gigantic monkey wrench into everything and they needed a safe album while they figured everything out.

* InternetBackdraft / BrokenBase: Inevitable when a band decides to continue after loses a loved vocalist, but going on with new vocalist Eddie Hermida has NOT set well with a lot of fans. Hell, even continuing the band under the Suicide Silence name pissed off a lot of fans. The fact that Eddie has [[http://loudwire.com/all-shall-perish-eddie-hermida-exits-band-focus-on-suicide-silence/ apparently]] decided to quit All Shall Perish has only fed the fire more.

* OvershadowedByControversy: There are multiple reasons why the modern iteration of the band is generally treated like a laughingstock: the disastrous reception of their self-titled and their [[DearNegativeReader abysmal handling]] of the situation did a lot to hurt their reputation, but the public outing of Eddie for attempting to groom an unstable and obsessed young female fan did just as much, if not more (especially when they had to rerecord a song for a video game with a different vocalist just so their contribution wouldn't be cut), as did some embarrassing live performances (namely an off-key cover of [[Music/{{Nirvana}} "Smells Like Teen Spirit"]], as well as an attempt by Eddie to get a South American festival crowd chant going for [[AudienceParticipationSong "No Pity for a Coward"]] and barely getting one); it is telling that most fan comments on their social media pages are hostile and mocking and their overall current reception borders on DeaderThanDisco.

* OvershadowedByControversy: There are multiple reasons why the modern iteration of the band is generally treated like a laughingstock: the disastrous reception of their self-titled and their [[DearNegativeReader abysmal handling]] of the situation did a lot to hurt their reputation, but the public outing of Eddie for attempting to groom an unstable and obsessed young female fan did just as much, if not more (especially when they had to rerecord a song for a video game with a different vocalist just so their contribution wouldn't be cut), as did some embarrassing live performances (namely an off-key cover of [[Music/{{Nirvana}} "Smells Like Teen Spirit"]], as well as an attempt by Eddie to get a South American festival crowd chant going for [[AudienceParticipationSong "No Pity for a Coward"]] and barely getting one) cemented them as has-been jokes in the eyes of many, and it is telling that most fan comments on their social media pages are hostile and mocking and their overall current reception borders on DeaderThanDisco.

* HeartwarmingMoments: Above, however, is probably one of the sweetest things anyone could have done.