History YMMV / StarTrekVoyager

14th Jan '18 4:36:14 AM OlfinBedwere
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* VindicatedByHistory: Much like ''Film/StarTrekVTheFinalFrontier'', it's not widely beloved by a long shot, but it's reputation ''has'' improved from being seen as an embarrassment to the franchise, to being seen as perhaps sub-par but not the bottom of the barrel, with ''Series/StarTrekEnterprise'' still being generally seen as a weaker series, and ''Series/StarTrekDiscovery'' being ''way'' more divisive.
14th Jan '18 4:33:05 AM OlfinBedwere
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* PopularityPolynomial: The show's reputation has been up and down like a roller-coaster over the years. It launched to great hype and was heralded as the true successor to TNG, but by around the early second season started being seen as an inferior rehash of that show. Seven of Nine's introduction and a slight ReTool in the fourth season got things back on track for a bit, but following the franchise as a whole falling into a DorkAge in the early-mid [=2000s=], the show became something of a whipping boy for ''Star Trek'' fandom. The show's reputation started picking up a little in the [=2010s=], however, with some coming to appreciate its light-hearted and episodic nature in light of the DarkerAndEdgier and ContinuityLockout-prone sci-fi shows that became popular after ''Voyager'' ended, and then it ''really'' started seeing a positive re-evaluation after the launch of ''Series/StarTrekDiscovery'', to the point where its current reputation may well be the best it's been at any point since the show launched.



*** Jennifer Lien (Kes), in light of [[CreatorBreakdown later events]], has become this to anyone familiar with mental illness and/or drug addictions. And of course because she's a minor celebrity, her embarrassment was reposted all over the Internet. Luckily, some "Star Trek" fan groups on Website/{{Facebook}} [[PetTheDog instated a new rule that anyone posting links to the news articles about the incident would be banned from the group.]]

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*** Jennifer Lien (Kes), in light of [[CreatorBreakdown later events]], has become this to anyone familiar with mental illness and/or drug addictions. And of course because she's a minor celebrity, her embarrassment was reposted all over the Internet. Luckily, some "Star Trek" fan groups on Website/{{Facebook}} [[PetTheDog instated a new rule that anyone posting links to the news articles about the that or any other incident she was involved in would be banned from the group.]]
29th Dec '17 7:17:22 PM Premonition45
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*** Jennifer Lien (Kes), in light of recent events, has become this to anyone familiar with mental illness and/or drug addictions. And of course because she's a minor celebrity, her embarrassment was reposted all over the Internet. Luckily, some "Star Trek" fan groups on Website/{{Facebook}} [[PetTheDog instated a new rule that anyone posting links to the news articles about the incident would be banned from the group.]]

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*** Jennifer Lien (Kes), in light of recent events, [[CreatorBreakdown later events]], has become this to anyone familiar with mental illness and/or drug addictions. And of course because she's a minor celebrity, her embarrassment was reposted all over the Internet. Luckily, some "Star Trek" fan groups on Website/{{Facebook}} [[PetTheDog instated a new rule that anyone posting links to the news articles about the incident would be banned from the group.]]
26th Dec '17 2:15:34 PM Premonition45
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** In "Hope and Fear", the "USS ''Dauntless''"'s registry is NX-01-A. On ''Series/StarTrekEnterprise'', the ''Enterprise'''s registry is NX-01, so, in hindsight, [[SpottingTheThread this should've been a telltale sign that something was amiss]].
16th Dec '17 1:58:53 PM Statzkeen
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** In "The Thaw", the crew are in the middle of a difficult debate on the nature of fear, trying to find a way to deal with a MonsterClown that has taken over a LotusEaterMachine and is capable of physically scaring the inhabitants to death. Neelix suggests telling jokes to overcome the MonsterClown, under the reasoning that laughter overcomes fear. The rest of the crew just stare at him with a collective look of irritated disgust as he splutters out mid-sentence, realising how badly his idea is going over with everyone. Unfortunately for the audience, not only doesn't this happen ''every'' time Neelix's opens his mouth, but it's actually one of his ''[[DamnedByFaintPraise better]]'' ideas and at least has some degree of logic to it.

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** In "The Thaw", the crew are in the middle of a difficult debate on the nature of fear, trying to find a way to deal with a MonsterClown that has taken over a LotusEaterMachine and is capable of physically scaring the inhabitants to death. Neelix suggests telling jokes to overcome the MonsterClown, under the reasoning that laughter overcomes fear. The rest of the crew just stare at him with a collective look of irritated disgust as he splutters out mid-sentence, realising how badly his idea is going over with everyone. Unfortunately for the audience, not only doesn't this happen ''every'' time Neelix's opens his mouth, but it's actually one of his ''[[DamnedByFaintPraise better]]'' ideas and at least has some degree of logic to it. A very similar solution (laughter cancelling out hatred) worked in the TOS episode ''Day of the Dove''.
13th Dec '17 9:13:12 AM lorgskyegon
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*** To be fair, it was the Vulcan game ''kal-toh'' and the Collective has assimilated numerous Vulcans who assuredly knew how to play. Seven also solved an alien puzzle game in seconds that had stumped the ''entire crew'' in "Think Tank".
15th Nov '17 7:48:21 PM omega05
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*** Chakotay is revealed in "Shattered" to have a hidden supply of cider in one of the cargo bays for the last seven years. No wonder he comes across as being wooden, spouts nonsensical mysticism at the strangest times, has questionable command abilities, and for the life of him ''can't'' land a shuttle without crashing it into something! It's entirely plausible that he's been secretly drunk for the entire trip. Although to be fair, if you were in Voyager's position--trapped on the opposite side of the galaxy, forced to work with the people who you were fighting against, assuming your people back home are being wiped out by the Cardassians, decades from resupply, knowing you'd never see home again, the imminent threat of cyborg zombies hanging over your head and with a very questionable person in charge--would you honestly be able to handle it without either going nuts or getting drunk?
*** Where did he get the cider? All of his personal effects would have been on the Maquis ship when they were brought to the Delta Quadrant, and no one would take the trouble to beam out things-that-weren't-people-whose-lives-needed-saving in the middle of a battle before the ship was destroyed.

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*** Chakotay is revealed in "Shattered" to have a hidden supply of Delta Quadrant cider from the Antarians in one of the cargo bays for the last seven years. No wonder he comes across as being wooden, spouts nonsensical mysticism at the strangest times, has questionable command abilities, and for the life of him ''can't'' land a shuttle without crashing it into something! It's entirely plausible that he's been secretly drunk for the entire trip. Although to be fair, if you were in Voyager's position--trapped on the opposite side of the galaxy, forced to work with the people who you were fighting against, assuming your people back home are being wiped out by the Cardassians, decades from resupply, knowing you'd never see home again, the imminent threat of cyborg zombies hanging over your head and with a very questionable person in charge--would you honestly be able to handle it without either going nuts or getting drunk?
*** Where did he get the cider? All of his personal effects would have been on the Maquis ship when they were brought to the Delta Quadrant, and no one would take the trouble to beam out things-that-weren't-people-whose-lives-needed-saving in the middle of a battle before the ship was destroyed.
drunk?
6th Nov '17 9:19:04 PM Premonition45
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* ValuesResonance: The episode "Critical Care", in which the Doctor is forced to try to ethically navigate an alien [[CrapsackWorld crapsack hospital]] where treatment is given based on the wealth of the patient, not medical need, would be an on-the-nose commentary about US healthcare if it aired ''today''.
3rd Nov '17 10:26:04 AM OlfinBedwere
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* ContestedSequel: Just scan this page. ''TAS'', ''TNG'' and ''[=DS9=]'' don't take anywhere near this much flak; the only TV show entry that does is ''Enterprise''.

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* ContestedSequel: Just scan this page. ''TAS'', ''TNG'' and ''[=DS9=]'' don't take never took anywhere near as much flak, outside of the first year or so after they were transmitted. Opinions on this much flak; series finally seem to be settling down a little after the only TV the launch of the even more divisive ''Series/StarTrekDiscovery'', though there's still some debate over whether this was an under-appreciated series that can now be considered VindicatedByHistory, or a largely SoOkayItsAverage show entry that does is ''Enterprise''.was usually watchable, but ultimately hurt by the producers and network not being willing to take any real risks.
25th Oct '17 8:16:05 PM wyattte
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