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* CompleteMonster: [[ManipulativeBastard Simon Krieger]] is the [[CorruptCorporateExecutive sociopathic head of the research and development at Roxxon]]. Placed in charge of the Nuform Project, Krieger has Rick Mason develop Nuform, only for it to make civilians horribly sick, with Krieger choosing to distribute it anyways, ignoring the risks out of pure greed. When Rick Mason tries to stop the project, Krieger kills him, resulting in Rick's sister, Phin, becoming the Tinkerer. When Phin steals the Nuform, Krieger has his enforcer, Rhino, capture both Miles and Phin, [[ILied going back on his deal with Prowler to let Miles go]], and has them both tortured for information, with Krieger implying that he plans on dissecting Miles for his powers. Knowing that Phin plans to destroy Roxxon Plaza, Krieger has the Nuform reactor sabotaged so it will destroy all of Harlem instead of just Roxxon Plaza while Krieger hides in his bunker to survive the blast, planning on painting himself as an victim of a terrorist attack, before [[InTheirOwnImage remaking Harlem in his own image]]. A cruel and corrupt businessman with [[LackOfEmpathy no regard towards human life]], Krieger will murder anyone just for the sake of money.

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* CompleteMonster: [[ManipulativeBastard Simon Krieger]] is the [[CorruptCorporateExecutive sociopathic head of the research and development at Roxxon]]. Placed in charge of the Nuform Project, Krieger has Rick Mason develop Nuform, only for it to make civilians horribly sick, with Krieger choosing to distribute it anyways, ignoring the risks out of pure greed. When Rick Mason tries to stop the project, Krieger kills him, resulting in Rick's sister, Phin, becoming the Tinkerer. When Phin steals the Nuform, Krieger has his enforcer, Rhino, capture both Miles [[Characters/MarvelComicsMilesMorales Miles]] and Phin, [[ILied going back on his deal with Prowler to let Miles go]], and has them both tortured for information, with Krieger implying that he plans on dissecting Miles for his powers. Knowing that Phin plans to destroy Roxxon Plaza, Krieger has the Nuform reactor sabotaged so it will destroy all of Harlem instead of just Roxxon Plaza while Krieger hides in his bunker to survive the blast, planning on painting himself as an victim of a terrorist attack, before [[InTheirOwnImage remaking Harlem in his own image]]. A cruel and corrupt businessman with [[LackOfEmpathy no regard towards human life]], Krieger will murder anyone just for the sake of money.
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* EpilepticTrees: Despite no confirmation as such from Insomniac or Sony, there's no small amount of fans that believe that the game was originally intended to be a DLC expansion for the original game that was later repurposed as a launch title for the [=PlayStation=] 5, mainly based on its smaller scale and its number of reused assets (especially since there's a glitch that allows you to play as Peter).

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** Many reviewers have noted that the basic plot structure of the main campaign directly parallels that of the 2018 game, but at a much faster pace and with much less nuance. There is the tech-savvy sympathetic supervillian that Spider-Man has a close bond with (Otto/Phin), the corporate magnate with a dark secret (Norman/Krieger), the friend Spider-Man fell out of contact with who turns out to be SecretlyDying (Harry/Rick), a public health hazard at the center of the plot (the Devil's Breath virus/Nuform) and the premise of a new superpowered gang trying to fill the EvilPowerVacuum (Inner Demons/The Underground).

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** Many reviewers have noted that the basic plot structure of the main campaign directly parallels that of the 2018 game, but at a much faster pace and with much less nuance. There is the tech-savvy sympathetic supervillian that Spider-Man has a close bond with (Otto/Phin), the corporate magnate with a dark secret (Norman/Krieger), the friend Spider-Man fell out of contact with who turns out to be SecretlyDying (Harry/Rick), a public health hazard at the center of the plot (the Devil's Breath virus/Nuform) and virus/Nuform), the premise of a new superpowered gang trying to fill the EvilPowerVacuum (Inner Demons/The Underground).Underground) and the story even ends with [[spoiler: a loved one sacrificing themself to save the rest of the city.]]
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: The Tinkerer AKA [[spoiler:Phin Mason]] is quite a hotly debated character. A lot of fans dislike her and think that the narrative is [[UnintentionallyUnsympathetic trying to milk way too much sympathy out of her]] due to her [[NeverMyFault absolute refusal to take responsibility for her plans going awry]] and instead blame Miles for them, up to the point where her stubbornness nearly ended up costing the lives of several innocent people and just made [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Krieger]] look better in the public eye, making her come across as extremely idiotic. However, others are willing to cut her a bit more slack since she was grieving over the loss of her brother, wasn't in her right state of mind as a result, and still [[AntiVillain had good intentions at heart]], even if she went about it the wrong way. And then there are those who think she's just [[ItsTheSameNowItSucks too similar to Doc Ock and Mister Negative from the previous game]].

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: The Tinkerer AKA [[spoiler:Phin Mason]] is quite a hotly debated character. A lot of fans dislike her and think that the narrative is [[UnintentionallyUnsympathetic trying to milk way too much sympathy out of her]] due to her [[NeverMyFault absolute refusal to take responsibility for her plans going awry]] and instead blame Miles for them, up to the point where her stubbornness nearly ended up costing the lives of several innocent people and could have just made [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Krieger]] look better in the public eye, making her come across as extremely idiotic. However, others are willing to cut her a bit more slack since she was grieving over the loss of her brother, wasn't in her right state of mind as a result, and still [[AntiVillain had good intentions at heart]], even if she went about it the wrong way. And then Furthermore even the game acknowledges that Miles knowingly messed up in handling her delicate emotional state so it’s not unreasonable that she’s unwilling to listen to him after he lied and manipulated her. Then there are those who think she's just [[ItsTheSameNowItSucks too similar to Doc Ock and Mister Negative from the previous game]].
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* ShockingMoments: After the breakout success of ''Marvel's Spider-Man'', a follow-up was inevitable. Few suspected, however, that said follow-up would arrive in time to be a launch title for the UsefulNotes/PlayStation5.



* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: [[spoiler:Miles' relationship and tension with Phin could have been the source of an interesting new rivalry or partnership. Instead, the Tinkerer is killed off at the end of the game in a display of RedemptionEqualsDeath.]]
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Trope misuse - this isn’t meant to just be used as “why didn’t this cool fanfiction happen?”
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Not this trope, in any way. Read the trope, it has a pretty strong definition.


* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: If you wear the Bodega Suit near the end of the game, Miles falls on his back with the sound of a loud meow, and his backpack disappears for the rest of the level, heavily implying Spider-Man the cat died by breaking Miles' fall. Yet, at the very end of the level, Miles has the backpack again, with the cat in it, making it an awkward UnexplainedRecovery. That, or after landing on the cat it ran away and returned later.
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* UnnecessaryMakeover: Just as was the case in the [=PS5=] remaster of ''VideoGame/SpiderManPS4'', Peter's redesigned face (done by Ben Jordan) has been critically panned by fans of the original [=PS4=] game, with many finding Jorden's younger, Creator/TomHolland-esque face to not fit the older and experienced Peter Parker like John Bubniak did. That said, it is agreed upon generally that the new face looks better in this game than it does in the remaster, due to the improved face-mapping and it being better mapped around Jorden's face, thus not looking as off as it often did in the [=PS5=] remaster of the first game.

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* UnnecessaryMakeover: Just as was the case in the [=PS5=] remaster of ''VideoGame/SpiderManPS4'', ''[[VideoGame/SpiderManPS4 Marvel's Spider-Man Remastered]]'', Peter's redesigned face (done by Ben Jordan) has been critically panned by fans of the original [=PS4=] game, with many finding Jorden's Jordan's younger, Creator/TomHolland-esque face to not fit the older and experienced Peter Parker like John Bubniak did. That said, it is agreed upon generally that the new face looks better in this game than it does in the remaster, due to the improved face-mapping and it being better mapped around Jorden's Jordan's face, thus not looking as off as it often did in the [=PS5=] remaster of the first game.remaster.
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* MagnificentBastard: Aaron Davis, Miles' affable uncle, is the retired mercenary, Prowler. Quickly finding out that Miles is the new [[Characters/SpiderManInsomniacHeroes Spider-Man]], Aaron begins to worry about his nephew's well-being, and returns to his criminal activities for the sake of trying to protect Miles. When Miles reveals that his friend Phin is the leader of the Underground, Aaron convinces Miles to infiltrate the group by lying to Phin that he wants to help her cause. Afterwards, when Miles tells Aaron that Phin found out Miles' identity, Aaron suggests that Miles meets up and has an open talk with Phin after she finds out Miles' identity, truthfully using this as an opportunity to inform Krieger where he can capture Tinkerer on the condition that they don't harm Spider-Man. Later, Aaron tranquilizes and imprisons Miles as he's heading to Roxxon Plaza, making sure he stays out of danger even at the cost of other innocent lives. Despite his selfish nature, Aaron did everything in his power to protect his family until Miles made him see the error of his way, and publicly reveals all of Krieger's crimes at the cost of turning himself in.

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* MagnificentBastard: Aaron Davis, Miles' affable uncle, is the retired mercenary, Prowler. Quickly finding out that Miles is the new [[Characters/SpiderManInsomniacHeroes Spider-Man]], Aaron begins to worry about his nephew's well-being, and returns to his criminal activities for the sake of trying to protect Miles. When Miles reveals that his friend Phin is the leader of the Underground, Aaron convinces Miles to infiltrate the group by lying to Phin that he wants to help her cause. Afterwards, when Miles tells Aaron that Phin found out Miles' identity, Aaron suggests that Miles meets up and has an open talk with Phin after she finds out Miles' identity, truthfully using this as an opportunity to [[spoiler:to inform Krieger where he can capture Tinkerer on the condition that they don't harm Spider-Man.Spider-Man]]. Later, Aaron tranquilizes and imprisons Miles as he's heading to Roxxon Plaza, making sure he stays out of danger even at the cost of other innocent lives. Despite his selfish nature, Aaron did everything in his power to protect his family until Miles made him see the error of his way, and publicly [[spoiler:publicly reveals all of Krieger's crimes at the cost of turning himself in.in]].
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* MagnificentBastard: Aaron Davis, Miles' affable uncle, is the retired mercenary, Prowler. Quickly finding out that Miles is the new [[Characters/SpiderManInsomiacHeroes Spider-Man]], Aaron begins to worry about his nephew's well-being, and returns to his criminal activities for the sake of trying to protect Miles. When Miles reveals that his friend Phin is the leader of the Underground, Aaron convinces Miles to infiltrate the group by lying to Phin that he wants to help her cause. Afterwards, when Miles tells Aaron that Phin found out Miles' identity, Aaron suggests that Miles meets up and has an open talk with Phin after she finds out Miles' identity, truthfully using this as an opportunity to inform Krieger where he can capture Tinkerer on the condition that they don't harm Spider-Man. Later, Aaron tranquilizes and imprisons Miles as he's heading to Roxxon Plaza, making sure he stays out of danger even at the cost of other innocent lives. Despite his selfish nature, Aaron did everything in his power to protect his family until Miles made him see the error of his way, and publicly reveals all of Krieger's crimes at the cost of turning himself in.

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* MagnificentBastard: Aaron Davis, Miles' affable uncle, is the retired mercenary, Prowler. Quickly finding out that Miles is the new [[Characters/SpiderManInsomiacHeroes [[Characters/SpiderManInsomniacHeroes Spider-Man]], Aaron begins to worry about his nephew's well-being, and returns to his criminal activities for the sake of trying to protect Miles. When Miles reveals that his friend Phin is the leader of the Underground, Aaron convinces Miles to infiltrate the group by lying to Phin that he wants to help her cause. Afterwards, when Miles tells Aaron that Phin found out Miles' identity, Aaron suggests that Miles meets up and has an open talk with Phin after she finds out Miles' identity, truthfully using this as an opportunity to inform Krieger where he can capture Tinkerer on the condition that they don't harm Spider-Man. Later, Aaron tranquilizes and imprisons Miles as he's heading to Roxxon Plaza, making sure he stays out of danger even at the cost of other innocent lives. Despite his selfish nature, Aaron did everything in his power to protect his family until Miles made him see the error of his way, and publicly reveals all of Krieger's crimes at the cost of turning himself in.
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** Deaf street artist Hailey Cooper won over a lot of fans thanks to her sweet nature, adorable interactions with Miles/Spider-Man, and helpfulness at the end of her sidequest. More than a few people are open to the idea of her and Miles becoming an item in the future because of this.

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** Deaf street artist Hailey Cooper won over a lot of fans thanks to her sweet nature, adorable interactions with Miles/Spider-Man, and helpfulness at the end of her sidequest. More than a few people are open to the idea of her and Miles becoming an item in the future because of this. [[spoiler: In [[VideoGame/MarvelsSpiderMan2 the next game]], they would get their wish.]]
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*** [[Creator/PhilLordAndChrisMiller Phil Lord]] [[https://twitter.com/philiplord/status/1332532386567864322?s=21 "We gotta put this]] in [[WesternAnimation/SpiderManAcrossTheSpiderVerse Spider-verse 2"]][[note]][[LyingCreator Unforunately]], Friendly Neighborhood Patio heater does not appear in the film.[[/note]]

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*** [[Creator/PhilLordAndChrisMiller Phil Lord]] [[https://twitter.com/philiplord/status/1332532386567864322?s=21 "We gotta put this]] in [[WesternAnimation/SpiderManAcrossTheSpiderVerse Spider-verse 2"]][[note]][[LyingCreator Unforunately]], Friendly Neighborhood 2"]][[note]][[TrollingCreator Despite this]], friendly neighborhood Patio heater does not appear in the film.[[/note]]
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*** [[Creator/PhilLordAndChrisMiller Phil Lord]] [[https://twitter.com/philiplord/status/1332532386567864322?s=21 "We gotta put this in Spider-verse 2"]]

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*** [[Creator/PhilLordAndChrisMiller Phil Lord]] [[https://twitter.com/philiplord/status/1332532386567864322?s=21 "We gotta put this this]] in [[WesternAnimation/SpiderManAcrossTheSpiderVerse Spider-verse 2"]]2"]][[note]][[LyingCreator Unforunately]], Friendly Neighborhood Patio heater does not appear in the film.[[/note]]
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* TheUntwist: One series of sidequests concerns a group of thugs who are looking to de-value property around Harlem so their boss can buy up the area and take control of it and the local organized crime. Miles doesn't find out who until the end of the questline, but over its course he learns that they're well-funded and very loyal to their boss, who is in prison and they communicate with him via an internet connection. Even that vague description should be enough to figure out the obvious suspect, which is exactly who it turns out to be -- [[spoiler:the Kingpin]].
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* MagnificentBastard: Aaron Davis, Miles' affable uncle, is the retired mercenary, Prowler. Quickly finding out that Miles is the new [[Characters/SpiderManPS4Heroes Spider-Man]], Aaron begins to worry about his nephew's well-being, and returns to his criminal activities for the sake of trying to protect Miles. When Miles reveals that his friend Phin is the leader of the Underground, Aaron convinces Miles to infiltrate the group by lying to Phin that he wants to help her cause. Afterwards, when Miles tells Aaron that Phin found out Miles' identity, Aaron suggests that Miles meets up and has an open talk with Phin after she finds out Miles' identity, truthfully using this as an opportunity to inform Krieger where he can capture Tinkerer on the condition that they don't harm Spider-Man. Later, Aaron tranquilizes and imprisons Miles as he's heading to Roxxon Plaza, making sure he stays out of danger even at the cost of other innocent lives. Despite his selfish nature, Aaron did everything in his power to protect his family until Miles made him see the error of his way, and publicly reveals all of Krieger's crimes at the cost of turning himself in.

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* MagnificentBastard: Aaron Davis, Miles' affable uncle, is the retired mercenary, Prowler. Quickly finding out that Miles is the new [[Characters/SpiderManPS4Heroes [[Characters/SpiderManInsomiacHeroes Spider-Man]], Aaron begins to worry about his nephew's well-being, and returns to his criminal activities for the sake of trying to protect Miles. When Miles reveals that his friend Phin is the leader of the Underground, Aaron convinces Miles to infiltrate the group by lying to Phin that he wants to help her cause. Afterwards, when Miles tells Aaron that Phin found out Miles' identity, Aaron suggests that Miles meets up and has an open talk with Phin after she finds out Miles' identity, truthfully using this as an opportunity to inform Krieger where he can capture Tinkerer on the condition that they don't harm Spider-Man. Later, Aaron tranquilizes and imprisons Miles as he's heading to Roxxon Plaza, making sure he stays out of danger even at the cost of other innocent lives. Despite his selfish nature, Aaron did everything in his power to protect his family until Miles made him see the error of his way, and publicly reveals all of Krieger's crimes at the cost of turning himself in.
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* IKnewIt:
** Since a good chunk of the first ''Spider-Man'' game was setting up Miles's rise to heroism, many guessed he would be playable in the next installment.
** Pretty much everyone assumed that the devs would put Miles' ''[[WesternAnimation/SpiderManIntoTheSpiderVerse Into the Spider-Verse]]'' suit into the game due to the film's popularity and the fact that Peter's was in the first game as a part of its DLC. No one saw them putting in a suit mod that would animate Miles on 2's like in that movie, though.
** People also guessed that the Prowler would show up.
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** [[spoiler:More like unexpected reference, but the nod to Dazzler took many by surprise, especially since the first game [[ExiledFromContinuity seemed to go out of its way to avoid mentioning anything to do with the X-Men]] (in contrast to the litany of references to other Marvel heroes).]]

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** [[spoiler:More like unexpected reference, but the nod to Dazzler and Lila Cheney took many by surprise, especially since the first game [[ExiledFromContinuity seemed to go out of its way to avoid mentioning anything to do with the X-Men]] (in contrast to the litany of references to other Marvel heroes).heroes). Lila in particular is a rather obscure mutant.]]
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** The crux of the story is a group of youths of color trying to take down a [[CorruptCorporateExecutive billionaire industrialist]] whose lack of morals have endangered the city, with Miles and New York caught in the middle. It is ''impossible'' to not read into this, especially as The Underground are designed with a similar aesthetic to Antifa protesters (albeit with cyberpunk-esque tech) and the billionaire is shown using a private militarised police force who have no qualms about roughing up innocents.

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** The crux of the story is a group of youths of color trying to take down a [[CorruptCorporateExecutive billionaire industrialist]] whose lack of morals have endangered the city, with Miles and New York caught in the middle. It is ''impossible'' to not read into this, especially as The Underground are designed with a similar aesthetic to Antifa protesters (albeit with cyberpunk-esque tech) tech and motivations and methods that are the diametric opposite) and the billionaire is shown using a private militarised police force who have no qualms about roughing up innocents.

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* ThatOneSidequest: Getting the highest rank on Traversal 3.0 is likely the hardest challenge or mission in both this game and the predecessor, far eclipsing the final battles on the highest difficulty. The first question is how to get it ''even in theory'', as you need to get a lot of information on which specific traversal technique for every segment has the miniscule but critical edge in speed. Once you've figured every step out, good luck executing it.

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Getting the highest rank on Traversal 3.0 is likely the hardest challenge or mission in both this game and the predecessor, far eclipsing the final battles on the highest difficulty. The first question is how to get it ''even in theory'', as you need to get a lot of information on which specific traversal technique for every segment has the miniscule but critical edge in speed. Once you've figured every step out, good luck executing it.it.
** Crime In Progress diversions of stopping the Underground from stealing a FEAST food truck can be annoying due to them being one of the few crimes that have an auto-failure condition: if an Underground member manages to force the truck's door open, the mission is an instant failure. Since there's not a lot of time to stop them once they start forcing the door, this can be annoying if Miles gets surrounded by enemies thanks to the game's auto-lock mechanic that makes it difficult to focus on specific foes or escape from ones he's currently fighting.

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* MemeticMutation: "The exaggerated swagger of a black teen."[[note]]A quote from [=GameSpot's=] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1sEskbVjm8&t=178s review]] of the game referring to Miles' trick animations when he's web swinging, which caught on due to its sheer weirdness; defenders tried to emphasize that the review was done ''by'' a black staffer, Jordan Ramée, but this only provoked further confusion as to how ''awkward'' the wording was.[[/note]]

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exaggerated swagger of a black teen."[[note]]A quote from [=GameSpot's=] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1sEskbVjm8&t=178s review]] of the game referring to Miles' trick animations when he's web swinging, which caught on due to its sheer weirdness; defenders tried to emphasize that the review was done ''by'' a black staffer, Jordan Ramée, but this only provoked further confusion as to how ''awkward'' the wording was.[[/note]][[/note]]
**Uncle Aaron's trash-ass beat[[note]]One sidequest has you assembling an old, unfinished song of Aaron's made up of various samples from across the city, such as a subway horn or ambience from Central Park. The [[https://youtu.be/0Qk9ww67ojY resulting song]] has been the subject of quite a fair bit of mockery, with fans saying such things as "No wonder his brother Jefferson became estranged when his music sounds like ''this.''"[[/note]]
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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: If you wear the Bodega Suit near the end of the game, Miles falls on his back with the sound of a loud meow, and his backpack disappears for the rest of the level, heavily implying Spider-Man the cat died by breaking Miles' fall. Yet, at the very end of the level, Miles has the backpack again, with the cat in it, making it an awkward UnexplainedRecovery.

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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: If you wear the Bodega Suit near the end of the game, Miles falls on his back with the sound of a loud meow, and his backpack disappears for the rest of the level, heavily implying Spider-Man the cat died by breaking Miles' fall. Yet, at the very end of the level, Miles has the backpack again, with the cat in it, making it an awkward UnexplainedRecovery. That, or after landing on the cat it ran away and returned later.
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* UnnecessaryMakeover: Just as was the case in the [=PS5=] remaster of VideoGame/SpiderManPS4, Peter's redesigned face (done by Ben Jordan) has been critically panned by fans of the original [=PS4=] game, with many finding Jorden's younger, Creator/TomHolland-esque face to not fit the older and experienced Peter Parker like John Bubniak did. That said, it is agreed upon generally that the new face looks better in this game than it does in the remaster, due to the improved face-mapping and it being better mapped around Jorden's face, thus not looking as off as it often did in the [=PS5=] remaster of the first game.

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* UnnecessaryMakeover: Just as was the case in the [=PS5=] remaster of VideoGame/SpiderManPS4, ''VideoGame/SpiderManPS4'', Peter's redesigned face (done by Ben Jordan) has been critically panned by fans of the original [=PS4=] game, with many finding Jorden's younger, Creator/TomHolland-esque face to not fit the older and experienced Peter Parker like John Bubniak did. That said, it is agreed upon generally that the new face looks better in this game than it does in the remaster, due to the improved face-mapping and it being better mapped around Jorden's face, thus not looking as off as it often did in the [=PS5=] remaster of the first game.

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