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* EsotericHappyEnding: [[spoiler: Everyone dies in the most cruel and tragic way, including children, after which the explosion of Ideon destroys a huge chunk of the galaxy. And then... the child of Karala and Bess becomes a real messiah and leads the souls of the dead supporters of her mother and father a the newly reborn planet. Yes, this is also MindScrew as it sounds.]]

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* EsotericHappyEnding: [[spoiler: Everyone dies in the most cruel and tragic way, including children, after which the explosion of Ideon destroys a huge chunk of the galaxy. And then... the child of Karala and Bess becomes a real messiah Messiah and leads the souls of the dead supporters of her mother and father a the newly reborn planet. Yes, this is also MindScrew as it sounds.planet.]]



** Harulu as this. She killed Lotta and later shot her pregnant sister, Karala in out of spite. And her father even approves it!

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** Harulu as this. She killed Lotta and later shot her pregnant sister, Karala in out of spite. And her father even approves it!it.



* TropeCodifier: For the philosophical SpaceOpera with esoteric GainaxEnding and war DownerEnding. For the latter, this is probably one of the most vivid and memorable examples in anime, taking into account the eastern tragedy and sadness.

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* TropeCodifier: For the philosophical SpaceOpera with esoteric GainaxEnding and war DownerEnding. For the latter, this is probably one of the most vivid and memorable examples in anime, taking into account the eastern tragedy and sadness.downer ending.



* WTHCostumingDepartment: Reviewers on the Internet have pointed out how Buff Clan generals' uniforms resemble [[HilariousInHindsight stereotypical Elvis impersonators' outfits.]]
** They're more than likely meant to invoke the look of alien warlords from the days of Flash Gordon and other 30s serials.

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* WTHCostumingDepartment: Reviewers on the Internet have pointed out how Buff Clan generals' uniforms resemble [[HilariousInHindsight stereotypical Elvis impersonators' outfits.]]
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]] They're more than likely meant to invoke the look of alien warlords from the days of Flash Gordon and other 30s serials.

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* FauxSymbolism: [[spoiler:Cosmo and Kasha name Karala's child Messiah.]]



** As Ideon and Anime/{{Macross}} essentially have the same idea, but told it in a tragic and correspondingly optimistic way, it can be quite fun to watch the first brutally scoff at the idea of ​​PowerOfLove victory over xenophobia and the war between two different peoples.

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** As Ideon and Anime/{{Macross}} essentially have the same idea, but told it in a tragic and correspondingly optimistic way, it can be quite fun to watch the first brutally scoff at the idea of ​​PowerOfLove ThePowerOfLove victory over xenophobia and the war between two different peoples.



* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotSymbolic: [[spoiler:Cosmo and Kasha name Karala's child Messiah.]]
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* WhatAnIdiot: Karala's reckless actions in the first episode cause so much grief for the human main characters and kick-starts the plot.

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* HilariousInHindsight: Mechas called the Dogg Mack and [[VideoGame/ZeroWing 'Take off every Zigg Mack']].

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* HilariousInHindsight: HilariousInHindsight:
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Mechas called the Dogg Mack and [[VideoGame/ZeroWing 'Take off every Zigg Mack']].Mack']].
** As Ideon and Anime/{{Macross}} essentially have the same idea, but told it in a tragic and correspondingly optimistic way, it can be quite fun to watch the first brutally scoff at the idea of ​​PowerOfLove victory over xenophobia and the war between two different peoples.



* HilariousInHindsight: So, as Ideon and Anime/{{Macross}} essentially have the same idea, but told it in a tragic and correspondingly optimistic way, it can be quite fun to watch the first brutally scoff at the idea of ​​PowerOfLove victory over xenophobia and the war between two different peoples.
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* ItWasHisSled: One of the most well known parts of the series is its KillEmAll ending.

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* ItWasHisSled: One of the most well known parts of the series is its KillEmAll ending.EverybodyDiesEnding.



** '''Ideon destroyed the universe!''', due to the KillEmAll ending. [[NeverLiveItDown Which is odd, because it only destroyed the solar system it was in/that part of the galaxy it was in.]] However, that does not sound nearly as dramatic.

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** '''Ideon destroyed the universe!''', due to the KillEmAll ending.EverybodyDiesEnding. [[NeverLiveItDown Which is odd, because it only destroyed the solar system it was in/that part of the galaxy it was in.]] However, that does not sound nearly as dramatic.



* SoOkayItsAverage: The movie is really the main reason this show stays on the map, as it was where most of the over-the-top violence and the KillEmAll ending actually played out. The actual show isn't terrible, but the episodes are StrictlyFormula and rather cliché-ridden (and the glacial pacing makes the show unsuitable for binging more than 5-6 episodes at a time), and [[OffModel the animation budget]] wasn't exactly huge.

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* SoOkayItsAverage: The movie is really the main reason this show stays on the map, as it was where most of the over-the-top violence and the KillEmAll ending EverybodyDiesEnding actually played out. The actual show isn't terrible, but the episodes are StrictlyFormula and rather cliché-ridden (and the glacial pacing makes the show unsuitable for binging more than 5-6 episodes at a time), and [[OffModel the animation budget]] wasn't exactly huge.
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** "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_cGHNoKSKc Overwhelming Power]]". When you heard it, you know that [[spoiler: anyone who opposed Ideon is just good as dead.]]

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** "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_cGHNoKSKc com/watch?v=4w64jlqc-JU Overwhelming Power]]". When you heard it, you know that [[spoiler: anyone who opposed Ideon is just good as dead.]]
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* SoOkayItsAverage: The movie is really the main reason this show stays on the map, as it was where most of the over-the-top violence and the KillEmAll ending actually played out. The actual show isn't terrible, but the episodes are StrictlyFormula and rather cliché-ridden, and [[OffModel the animation budget]] wasn't exactly huge.

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* SoOkayItsAverage: The movie is really the main reason this show stays on the map, as it was where most of the over-the-top violence and the KillEmAll ending actually played out. The actual show isn't terrible, but the episodes are StrictlyFormula and rather cliché-ridden, cliché-ridden (and the glacial pacing makes the show unsuitable for binging more than 5-6 episodes at a time), and [[OffModel the animation budget]] wasn't exactly huge.
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* CommonKnowledge: [[spoiler:Perhaps the most well known fact about the show was that the Ideon blew up the universe and then recreated it near the end of the series. Except that is just an exaggeration, While the Ideon did indeed explode, it only took out a solar system with the blast before it faded not long afterwards. The fact that the scars from the shows previous battles are clearly shown after the fact just makes this clearer]].
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* FanNickname:
** "The Gun" for the Ideon Gun in ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsAlpha'' due to [[GameBreaker how horribly broken]] [[https://youtu.be/Bwmtze7EZ_E it is]].
** "Afro Amuro" for Cosmo whose character design and personality is similar to Amuro of ''Anime/MobileSuitGundam''.
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Harulu actually knows that Karala's pregnant which is why she went to the Solo Ship in the first place.


** Harulu as this. She killed Lotta and later shot her sister, Karala in out of spite. And she doesn't realize that her sister was pregnant.

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** Harulu as this. She killed Lotta and later shot her pregnant sister, Karala in out of spite. And she doesn't realize that her sister was pregnant.father even approves it!
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** The ending song, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRsNrGqPl2g "Cosmos ni Kimi to"]], is a great ballad that reflects on the tone and experiences the characters faced throughout the series.
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the gundam thing is only from a non-canon manga, don't treat it as fact


* EsotericHappyEnding: [[spoiler: Everyone dies in the most cruel and tragic way, including children, after which the explosion of Ideon destroys a huge chunk of the galaxy. And then... the child of Karala and Bess becomes a real messiah and leads the souls of the dead supporters of her mother and father to the newly reborn Earth, where they will be reborn in the new world as Gundam characters. Yes, this is also MindScrew as it sounds.]]

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* EsotericHappyEnding: [[spoiler: Everyone dies in the most cruel and tragic way, including children, after which the explosion of Ideon destroys a huge chunk of the galaxy. And then... the child of Karala and Bess becomes a real messiah and leads the souls of the dead supporters of her mother and father to a the newly reborn Earth, where they will be reborn in the new world as Gundam characters.planet. Yes, this is also MindScrew as it sounds.]]
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* {{Narm}}: This series has the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m14DbwRVX5 characters punching and slapping each other]] which predates the ridiculous slapstick in ''Anime/MobileSuitZetaGundam''. But the scene that takes the crown is [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lI1VrkhVXjo Karala and Sheryl slapping the hell out of each other]].

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* {{Narm}}: This series has the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m14DbwRVX5 [[https://youtu.be/m14DbwRVX5E characters punching and slapping each other]] which predates the ridiculous slapstick in ''Anime/MobileSuitZetaGundam''. But the scene that takes the crown is [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lI1VrkhVXjo Karala and Sheryl slapping the hell out of each other]].

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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment:
** Piper Lou drinking milk from the cow's udder in episode 2. Yes, he's hungry but that scene can make one viewer scratch their head.
** The blue frog scenes. While it didn't add anything to the story other than showing what Lou was doing, it does break the ice on some serious scenes.



* NightmareFuel: A lot of the deaths in the show (as you can see [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiFPvqnzK9g in this video]]) and especially the movie Be Invoked, are pretty gruesome, but what takes the cake is [[spoiler: the death of [[HeartwarmingOrphan Ashura]], who [[OffWithHisHead gets her head cleanly blown off.]] ''And she's a kid of a mere 5 years.'']]


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* {{Narm}}: This series has the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m14DbwRVX5 characters punching and slapping each other]] which predates the ridiculous slapstick in ''Anime/MobileSuitZetaGundam''. But the scene that takes the crown is [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lI1VrkhVXjo Karala and Sheryl slapping the hell out of each other]].

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%%** No love for the opening and ending?


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** The opening song, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OI0hVw6UotU "Fukkatsu no Ideon"]], is very catchy and empowering for a series where tragedy and war struck. Then, there's the lyrics that give away the ending.
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* WhatAnIdiot: Karala's reckless actions in the first episode causes so much grief for the human main characters and kick-starts the plot.

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* WhatAnIdiot: Karala's reckless actions in the first episode causes cause so much grief for the human main characters and kick-starts the plot.
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* WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids: Turning a children's show with robots into an extremely tragic-depressing version of Romeo and Juliet with one of the most famous DownerEnding in the history of anime, was obviously not a good idea. But it worked and made this anime a legend, yes.

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* WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids: Turning a children's show with robots into an extremely tragic-depressing version of Romeo and Juliet with one of the most famous DownerEnding {{Downer Ending}}s in the history of anime, was obviously not a good idea. But it worked and made this anime a legend, yes.
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** No love for the opening and ending?

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** %%** No love for the opening and ending?



** Frequently, Doba's manly-tears-closeup near the end of ''Be Invoked'' is a standard [[ImageBoards imageboard]] reply to something awe-inspiring.

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** Frequently, Doba's manly-tears-closeup near the end of ''Be Invoked'' is a standard [[ImageBoards imageboard]] {{ImageBoard|s}} reply to something awe-inspiring.

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* AllThereIsToKnowAboutTheCryingGame: Aside from the KillEmAll ending, the show is incredibly obscure, so for most people that's literally all they know about it.



* ItWasHisSled: One of the most well known parts of the series is its ending.

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* ItWasHisSled: One of the most well known parts of the series is its KillEmAll ending.
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* EsotericHappyEnding: [[spoiler: Everyone dies in the most cruel and tragic way, including women and children, after which the explosion of Ideon destroys a huge chunk of the galaxy. And then... the child of Karala and Bess becomes a real messiah and leads the souls of the dead supporters of her mother and father to the newly reborn Earth, where they will be reborn in the new world as Gundam characters. Yes, this is also MindScrew as it sounds.]]

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* EsotericHappyEnding: [[spoiler: Everyone dies in the most cruel and tragic way, including women and children, after which the explosion of Ideon destroys a huge chunk of the galaxy. And then... the child of Karala and Bess becomes a real messiah and leads the souls of the dead supporters of her mother and father to the newly reborn Earth, where they will be reborn in the new world as Gundam characters. Yes, this is also MindScrew as it sounds.]]
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* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: The TV series has a lot of problems mentioned in SoOkayItsAverage. TheMovie, ''Be Invoked'', is considered some of Tomino's finest work.
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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: At the time, DownerEnding and MindScrew were so shocking and depressing in this show that ratings began to fall sharply, and the studio reduced the number of episodes. Now his despair is more likely to be treated as MemeticMutation and NarmCharm because of his nature of the "strange old mecha show".

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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: At the time, DownerEnding and MindScrew were so shocking and depressing in this show that ratings began to fall sharply, and the studio reduced the number of episodes. Now his its despair is more likely to be treated as MemeticMutation and NarmCharm because of his the nature of the "strange old mecha show".

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%%* JerkassWoobie: Oh dear. Harulu, Doba, and Sheryl.



* MoralEventHorizon: This series had this moment:

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* MoralEventHorizon: This series had this moment:these moments:



* JerkassWoobie: Oh dear. Harulu, Doba, and Sheryl.
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* MoralEventHorizon: This series had this moment:
** Gije crossed it by ordering sub-light missiles if they aren't hand over the Ideon to them. This action was, later slapped by Karala and [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone this leads him regret of his horrible decision.]] Thankfully, this sequence was completely averted in the movie version.
** Harulu as this. She killed Lotta and later shot her sister, Karala in out of spite. And she doesn't realize that her sister was pregnant.
** The Terran aren't any better when they want the Ide for their own interests.
** The Commodore crossed it by ordering his Ajian soldiers to shot the civvies and including Lin, Sheryl's younger sister.


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*JerkassWoobie: Oh dear. Harulu, Doba, and Sheryl.

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* MemeticMutation: '''Ideon destroyed the universe!'''
** [[NeverLiveItDown Which is kinda odd because it only destroyed the solar system it was in/that part of the galaxy it was in.]]
** [[TakeAThirdOption Okay, let's just say it destroyed humanity.]]
** Hey, look at the monitor to your left. [[FourthWallPsych *Stares at troper*]]

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'''Ideon destroyed the universe!'''
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universe!''', due to the KillEmAll ending. [[NeverLiveItDown Which is kinda odd odd, because it only destroyed the solar system it was in/that part of the galaxy it was in.]]
** [[TakeAThirdOption Okay, let's just say it destroyed humanity.]]
** Hey, look at the monitor to your left. [[FourthWallPsych *Stares at troper*]]
]] However, that does not sound nearly as dramatic.
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* AllThereIsToKnowAboutTheCryingGame: Aside from the KillEmAll ending, the show is incredibly obscure, so for most people that's literally all they know about it.
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* EarWorm: "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIcYvE231q8 Fukkatsu no Ideon]]," the ([[SoundtrackDissonance rather peppy]]) opening.
-->"SP-PACE RUN-A-WAY IDEON! I-DE-O-NNNNNN!!"
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* MisaimedMarketing: A number of Ideon toys, [[WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids marketed for children]], was produced by Popy before Tomino created the anime series. After the show didn't turn out as Popy expected, Tomino [[https://nekketsunikki.com/2019/07/07/tomino-yoshiyuki-japan-expo-2019-july-6/ warned that this is the lesson for every toy company and that "companies shouldn't make toys before the anime"]].
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* [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Nice Job Breaking The Universe Heroes]]: Well duh.
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** The titular mecha itself is also crowned as "The King Of [[Anime/MobileSuitGundam GMs]]".

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