History YMMV / SkipBeat

20th Jun '16 7:01:29 AM MoonByte
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** During the party arc, Moko immediately goes to look for her present for Kyoko, in response to Ren's gift [[spoiler:upon learning it was her birthday.]] All of her expressions, thoughts and mannerisms wouldn't be out of place on a [[ClingyJealousGirl jealous girlfriend.]]

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** During the party arc, Moko immediately goes to look for her present for Kyoko, in response to Ren's gift [[spoiler:upon learning it was her birthday.]] All of her expressions, thoughts and mannerisms wouldn't be out of place on a [[ClingyJealousGirl jealous girlfriend.]] The fact that she would usually not show affection pubicly, yet grins in triumph at Ren when Kyouko is speechless about Moko's gift is just the cherry on top.
20th Jun '16 7:00:01 AM MoonByte
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** Kyoko was incredibly... ''devoted'' to Ruriko.

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** Kyoko was incredibly... ''devoted'' to Ruriko. Kyouko even mentions at one point that she was almost able to feel ''love'' again during her time with Ruriko.



* ShipsThatPassInTheNight: Kanae and Yashiro is surprisingly popular, likely because fans like the idea of the two main leads' best friends hooking up. All this, despite the fact that the two characters have never interacted in the manga.

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* ShipsThatPassInTheNight: Kanae and Yashiro is surprisingly popular, likely because fans like the idea of the two main leads' best friends hooking up. All this, despite the fact that the two characters have never interacted in the manga.
10th Sep '14 11:13:43 AM Erivale
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* ShipsThatPassInTheNight: Kanae and Yashiro is surprisingly popular, likely because fans like the idea of the two main leads' best friends hooking up. All this, despite the fact that the two characters have never interacted in the manga.
13th Aug '14 11:42:22 AM MagBas
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* UnfortunateImplications:
** Rife, though actually less so than in most Shoujo romantic comics. The above under ultimate job security applies.
** An incident with Reino the psychic and Corn the rock. The powers are real--he gets some information he shouldn't have. He also states that the pain 'Corn' put into the eponymous stone before giving it to little Kyoko is "not the kind of feeling an ordinary child from an ordinary house could have" and makes her accumulated suffering over ten years of being used, abused, and unloved by everyone in her world look minor. Given that Corn was ''not'' a fairy prince but a Hollywood Brat with two doting parents, looks, talent, health, and everything money could buy, UnfortunateImplication set in.
** The degree to which Kyoko is becoming the B-plot of her own life in favor of Ren now that he's coming close to being acknowledged as her LoveInterest.
** Reino's psychic perception of "Corn's" suffering as hugely worse than Kyoko's, when [[spoiler: it was a ten-year-old boy having trouble establishing an independent identity when his doting father was so famous]], while she made it to sixteen emotionally abused from every side and almost totally isolated. Could just be that she's much better at coping while he wallows, though.
** Everything relating to race, from the perspective of an American audience, because the Japanese have ''very different'' ideas about ethnicity and race-mixing.
19th May '14 9:43:23 PM ChaoticNovelist
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* ArcFatigue: So, so much.

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* RealWomenNeverWearDresses: The first time they meet, Kanae scorns Kyouko for being "housewifey" only because she sees her sewing a doll (Kanae's unaware that the doll is a voodoo doll which Kyouko intends to use for BlackMagic); and for a while she dismisses Kyouko because she didn't believe that a woman who can do every stereotypical housework could be a competent actress. But turns out that [[spoiler: Kanae's also housewifey, in this case by necessity - and really good at it. Seeing Kyoko pissed her off because [[YouAreWhatYouHate she was reminded of herself.]] Though her version of "housewifing" is more of a extreme sport though.]]

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* RealWomenNeverWearDresses: The first time they meet, Kanae scorns Kyouko for being "housewifey" "[[HouseWife housewifey]]" only because she sees her sewing a doll (Kanae's unaware that the doll is a voodoo doll which Kyouko intends to use for BlackMagic); and for a while she dismisses Kyouko because she didn't believe that a woman who can do every stereotypical housework could be a competent actress. But It turns out that [[spoiler: Kanae's also housewifey, in this case by necessity - and really good at it. Seeing Kyoko pissed her off because [[YouAreWhatYouHate she was reminded of herself.]] Though her version of "housewifing" is more of a extreme sport though.sport.]]



* UnfortunateImplications: Rife, though actually less so than in most Shoujo romantic comics. The above under ultimate job security applies.
** As does a incident with Reino the psychic and Corn the rock. The powers are real--he gets some information he shouldn't have. He also states that the pain 'Corn' put into the eponymous stone before giving it to little Kyoko is "not the kind of feeling an ordinary child from an ordinary house could have" and makes her accumulated suffering over ten years of being used, abused, and unloved by everyone in her world look minor. Given that Corn was ''not'' a fairy prince but a Hollywood Brat with two doting parents, looks, talent, health, and everything money could buy, UnfortunateImplication set in.
*** Especially because it sounds so much like Erica's intentionally absurd speech way back during the Kyurara auditions, about how "poor people couldn't possibly understand emotions and portray them like '''rich''' people!" (Her manservants chime in that that is 'very logical, Miss Erica.)
**** Eh, it might just mean Ren is a wuss and Kyoko is tough, and Reino is picking up the {{Wangst}} difference and misinterpreting it. A stretch, though.
*** It should also be noted that, judging by what he "saw," it also contained Ren's emotions as an adolescent, where he is viewed [[spoiler: attacking people on the street as some of them run away, hands covered in blood]] so it's possible he was also referring to that.
*** Also this ''is'' [[AttemptedRape Reino]] [[{{Jerkass}} we're talking]] [[ObviouslyEvil about]] anything he says should be taken with several grains of salt.
*** Events later in his history seem to indicate that - for all his parents' support - young Kuon was ostracized from his peers (not to mention bullied and abused) due to his parents' fame. It is implied that if Rick hadn't given Kuon something to live for, Reino's prediction would have come to pass. Kyoko at least had Sho for a touchstone (unreliable as he may have become).
*** There is a possible explanation for the osmosis of events post Kuon's leaving Kyoto: Ren had had quite a bit of contact with "Corn"-the-stone before Reino got near it (even kissing the thing). He might have managed to transfer a little of his later, more bloody backstory along with. It is clutching at staws a bit, but he does start lightening up towards Kyoko (and his old self -- ish) ''after'' the couple of Corn incidents.
** Also the degree to which Kyoko is becoming the B-plot of her own life in favor of Ren now that he's coming close to being acknowledged as her LoveInterest.
** Also Reino's psychic perception of "Corn's" suffering as hugely worse than Kyoko's, when [[spoiler: it was a ten-year-old boy having trouble establishing an independent identity when his doting father was so famous]], while she made it to sixteen emotionally abused from every side and almost totally isolated. Could just be that she's much better at coping while he wallows, though.
** Also everything relating to race, from the perspective of an American audience, because the Japanese have ''very different'' ideas about ethnicity and race-mixing.

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* UnfortunateImplications: UnfortunateImplications:
**
Rife, though actually less so than in most Shoujo romantic comics. The above under ultimate job security applies.
** As does a An incident with Reino the psychic and Corn the rock. The powers are real--he gets some information he shouldn't have. He also states that the pain 'Corn' put into the eponymous stone before giving it to little Kyoko is "not the kind of feeling an ordinary child from an ordinary house could have" and makes her accumulated suffering over ten years of being used, abused, and unloved by everyone in her world look minor. Given that Corn was ''not'' a fairy prince but a Hollywood Brat with two doting parents, looks, talent, health, and everything money could buy, UnfortunateImplication set in.
*** Especially because it sounds so much like Erica's intentionally absurd speech way back during the Kyurara auditions, about how "poor people couldn't possibly understand emotions and portray them like '''rich''' people!" (Her manservants chime in that that is 'very logical, Miss Erica.)
**** Eh, it might just mean Ren is a wuss and Kyoko is tough, and Reino is picking up the {{Wangst}} difference and misinterpreting it. A stretch, though.
*** It should also be noted that, judging by what he "saw," it also contained Ren's emotions as an adolescent, where he is viewed [[spoiler: attacking people on the street as some of them run away, hands covered in blood]] so it's possible he was also referring to that.
*** Also this ''is'' [[AttemptedRape Reino]] [[{{Jerkass}} we're talking]] [[ObviouslyEvil about]] anything he says should be taken with several grains of salt.
*** Events later in his history seem to indicate that - for all his parents' support - young Kuon was ostracized from his peers (not to mention bullied and abused) due to his parents' fame. It is implied that if Rick hadn't given Kuon something to live for, Reino's prediction would have come to pass. Kyoko at least had Sho for a touchstone (unreliable as he may have become).
*** There is a possible explanation for the osmosis of events post Kuon's leaving Kyoto: Ren had had quite a bit of contact with "Corn"-the-stone before Reino got near it (even kissing the thing). He might have managed to transfer a little of his later, more bloody backstory along with. It is clutching at staws a bit, but he does start lightening up towards Kyoko (and his old self -- ish) ''after'' the couple of Corn incidents.
** Also the
**The degree to which Kyoko is becoming the B-plot of her own life in favor of Ren now that he's coming close to being acknowledged as her LoveInterest.
** Also Reino's **Reino's psychic perception of "Corn's" suffering as hugely worse than Kyoko's, when [[spoiler: it was a ten-year-old boy having trouble establishing an independent identity when his doting father was so famous]], while she made it to sixteen emotionally abused from every side and almost totally isolated. Could just be that she's much better at coping while he wallows, though.
** Also everything Everything relating to race, from the perspective of an American audience, because the Japanese have ''very different'' ideas about ethnicity and race-mixing.
8th Mar '14 10:28:55 AM KuroKokoro
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* ArcFatique: So, so much.

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8th Mar '14 10:28:42 AM KuroKokoro
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* ArcFatique: So, so much.
24th Dec '13 3:43:02 PM Ecclytennysmithylove
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*** There is a possible explanation for the osmosis of events post Kuon's leaving Kyoto: Ren had had quite a bit of contact with "Corn"-the-stone before Reino got near it (even kissing the thing). He might have managed to transfer a little of his later, more bloody backstory along with. It is clutching at staws a bit, but he does start lightening up towards Kyoko (and his old self -- ish) ''after'' the couple of Corn incidents.

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*** There is a possible explanation for the osmosis of events post Kuon's leaving Kyoto: Ren had had quite a bit of contact with "Corn"-the-stone before Reino got near it (even kissing the thing). He might have managed to transfer a little of his later, more bloody backstory along with. It is clutching at staws a bit, but he does start lightening up towards Kyoko (and his old self -- ish) ''after'' the couple of Corn incidents.incidents.
** Also the degree to which Kyoko is becoming the B-plot of her own life in favor of Ren now that he's coming close to being acknowledged as her LoveInterest.
** Also Reino's psychic perception of "Corn's" suffering as hugely worse than Kyoko's, when [[spoiler: it was a ten-year-old boy having trouble establishing an independent identity when his doting father was so famous]], while she made it to sixteen emotionally abused from every side and almost totally isolated. Could just be that she's much better at coping while he wallows, though.
** Also everything relating to race, from the perspective of an American audience, because the Japanese have ''very different'' ideas about ethnicity and race-mixing.
15th Aug '13 4:56:00 PM AKITN
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** In Sho's PV, Kyoko has to act out an angel who has a lot of this with another angel. She perfoms a brilliant act that actually enraptures the other angel's actor, who dislikes her. How did she find the inspiration for this? By inserting Moko into the other angel's role in her mind.
** During the party arc, Moko immediately goes to look for her present for Kyoko, in response to Ren's gift [[spoiler:upon learning it was her birthday.]] All of her expressions, thoughts and mannerisms wouldn't be out of place on a [[ClingyJealousGirl jealous girlfriend.]]
12th Jul '13 6:37:03 PM TooBadForU
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* FridgeLogic: When Kyoko worries that Ren will cut all ties with her in Karuizawa, it seems a little too far-fetched. Until you realize that that's how she's used to being treated by those she cares about. Her mother abandoned her when she was a little girl, Fuwa Sho dropped her without a second thought after she spent years devoted to him, even Corn left without giving her a way to keep in touch (although in his case it was because he was ten years old and had to go home).

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* FridgeLogic: FridgeBrilliance: When Kyoko worries that Ren will cut all ties with her in Karuizawa, it seems a little too far-fetched. Until you realize that that's how she's used to being treated by those she cares about. Her mother abandoned her when she was a little girl, Fuwa Sho dropped her without a second thought after she spent years devoted to him, even Corn left without giving her a way to keep in touch (although in his case it was because he was ten years old and had to go home).
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