History YMMV / Skins

24th Sep '17 5:19:17 PM nombretomado
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* ComeForTheXStayForTheY: ''Skins'' was initially advertised as just a sex-and-drugs free-for-all, but most fans would say what really made them obsessed with the series was the amazing writing and acting, relatable characters and sophisticated portrayals of teen relationships, much more than the racy subject matter. (And the marketing has caught up as of Generation 3.) The US version is a subversion, though; because it failed in the acting and writing that the original did so well on, even those who just wanted wild party scenes could not stay interested, so it was really more Come For The X ''Leave'' For The Y.
11th Aug '17 9:16:21 AM Elyana
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** Josh also gets this in some corners, in spite (or perhaps [[EvilIsSexy because]]) of his dark streak.
4th Aug '17 10:11:53 PM Windrays
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* NightmareFuel: [[spoiler:Chris's death by hemorrhage is both terrifying and also very realistically portrayed, between the blood from his mouth and nose, the memory loss, the vomiting, convulsions, and, most scarily, the speed in which it happens.]]
** [[spoiler:Freddie's death. A grown man, jealous of his teenage patient's relationship with her boyfriend, brutally beats said boyfriend, also a teenager, to death with a bat.]]
2nd Aug '17 1:11:55 AM rightyo
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* FirstInstallmentWins: Perhaps inevitably, the cancelled-after-one-season Skins US remake was doomed from the start, what with an already incredibly vocal {{Hatedom}} from both the UK version's homegrown and burgeoning international cult audience (in a time when many of the original episodes around the world were just a short download/you-tube search away), the awkward mingling of new storylines with near-replica episodes of the original (which resulted in some severe RelationshipWritingFumble s and character inconsistencies) plus the extreme backlash from the US MoralGuardians that went so far as to deem it borderline Child Porn (which perhaps was what led to several advertisers abandoning the show).

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* FirstInstallmentWins: Perhaps inevitably, The UK version remains widely adored as a ground-breaking teenage drama and always keeps adding to it's massive cult following while the cancelled-after-one-season Skins US remake was doomed from is now largely forgotten, the start, what latter of which struggled with an already incredibly vocal {{Hatedom}} from both the UK version's homegrown and burgeoning international cult audience (in a time when many fans of the original episodes around the world were just a short download/you-tube search away), the awkward mingling of new storylines with near-replica episodes of the original (which resulted in some severe RelationshipWritingFumble s show to major MoralGuardian controversy over it's racier scenes and character inconsistencies) subject matter, plus the extreme backlash from the US MoralGuardians that went so far as to deem it borderline Child Porn (which perhaps was what led to several advertisers abandoning the show).generally unenthused stateside reviews and lukewarm fan support.



** Series 3 initially [[BrokenBase (and for a number, still has)]] divided fans very sharply, for those who were upset at the complete re-casting of the show's cast to the show's more frequent use of broad CringeComedy and rather silly over-the-top sublots (the one with gangsters imediatelly comes to mind) that felt like a rather extreme MoodWhiplash to it's more grounded moments, plus some were [[SpotlightStealingSquad put off by Cook boorishly grabbing most of the attention even in episodes that were supposed to focus on other characters]]. And some just thought the much more gussied-up, conventionally beautiful cast and prominent focus of the nice-guy/bad-boy/mysterious-beauty love triangle (Freddie/Effy/Cook) was making it too akin to an American style high school soap.

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** Series 3 initially [[BrokenBase (and for a number, still has)]] divided fans very sharply, for those who were upset at the complete re-casting of the show's cast to the show's more frequent use of broad broad, at times sophomoric CringeComedy and rather silly over-the-top sublots (the one with gangsters imediatelly immediately comes to mind) that felt like a rather extreme MoodWhiplash to it's more grounded moments, plus some were [[SpotlightStealingSquad put off by Cook boorishly grabbing most of the attention even in episodes that were supposed to focus on other characters]]. And some just thought the much more gussied-up, conventionally beautiful cast and prominent focus of the nice-guy/bad-boy/mysterious-beauty love triangle (Freddie/Effy/Cook) was making it too akin to an American style high school soap.



* TakeThatScrappy: Season 3, episode 8 got a major one where Effy and Katie meet alone in the woods and Katie, who was still clearly steaming about the apparent (off-camera) advances made by Effy towards Freddie starts out trying to excarbate Effy's already bad shroom trip by lying about bug's all over her arms, then proceeding to verbally taunt her which leads to some aggressive but hardly overpowering physical slapping... and for defense Effy [[spoiler: [[DisproportionateRetribution bashes her head in with a rock]]... and ends up leaving her in the woods only belatedly trying to call an ambulance with no indication if she's even still alive (which brings up the major WhatHappenedToTheMouse question in why the rest of the group was so non-chalant that their friend has all of a sudden gone missing and all end up leaving the campsite anyway). It became rather apparent how low the fandom's opinion was of Katie that many instantly rose to defend Effy over her with some even saying that the near-manslaughter was completely justified as self-defense.]]

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* TakeThatScrappy: Season 3, episode 8 got a major one where Effy and Katie meet alone in the woods and Katie, who was still clearly steaming about the apparent (off-camera) advances made by Effy towards Freddie starts out trying to excarbate Effy's already bad shroom trip by lying about bug's all over her arms, then proceeding to verbally taunt her which leads to some aggressive but hardly overpowering physical slapping... and for defense Effy [[spoiler: [[DisproportionateRetribution bashes her head in with a rock]]... and ends up leaving her in the woods only belatedly trying to call an ambulance with no indication if she's even still alive (which brings up the major in-universe WhatHappenedToTheMouse question in as to why the rest of the group was so non-chalant that their friend has all of a sudden gone missing and all end up leaving the campsite anyway). It became rather apparent how low the fandom's opinion was of Katie that many instantly rose to defend Effy over her with some even saying that the near-manslaughter (though Katie survived) was completely justified as self-defense.]]



* TrappedByMountainLions: Some think Sketch's whole storyline in Season 2 was this, since it had little to do with the overall story arc of the season and she often seemed to just disappear in and out of most episodes (mostly as Anwar's FriendsWithBenefits) with often fleeting relevance.
** JJ's romancing of single mom Lara had some accusations of this, mainly again in how little it had to do with the rest of the group's overall arc of the season and the fact that she seemed to disappear completely from the show after the episode, with only JJ breifly babysitting her child in the series finale providing the only indication that she even still existed at all.

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* TrappedByMountainLions: Some think Sketch's whole storyline in Season 2 Sketch as a character was this, this in season 2, since it her story had so little to do with the overall story arc of the season and she often seemed to just disappear (and was it's own brand of BizzaroEpisode). She mostly disappeared in and out of most episodes (mostly the season as Anwar's FriendsWithBenefits) the AbhorrentAdmirer and StalkerWithACrush to [[IncompatibleOrientation the openly gay Maxxie]] and a sort of FriendsWithBenefits with often fleeting relevance.
his best friend Anwar when she couldn't get her way, but she had so little to do with the character devolopment of either nor did her brief terrorizing of Michelle play much into the rest of the season at all, questioning why this was necessary to get such a prominent place in the S2 cast and her own entire episode (even over other main characters) when her story seem so disjointed from all the other drama that was going on.
** JJ's romancing of single mom Lara had some accusations of this, mainly again in how little it had to do with the rest of the group's overall arc of the season and the fact that she seemed to disappear completely from the show after the episode, afterwards, with only JJ breifly babysitting her child in the series finale providing the only indication that she even still existed at all.
29th Jul '17 5:44:15 PM rightyo
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** Freddie/Katie's out-of-nowhere relationship in season 3 def reeked of this, as there was no explanation of how they got together or even what they saw in each other as well as the [[PutOnABus un-explained abscence of her JerkJock boyfriend Danny]]. While there were indications Freddie was trying to get over Effy's [[spoiler: betrayal of the previous episode]] and it became rather blatant that Katie was a [[spoiler: RomanticFalseLead]], with Katie it wasn't clear if she was simply going after one of the most desirable men in their year or if she was totally aware of his feelings for Effy and was intentionally doing it to rile her and assert her place at the top of their social group.


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* TrappedByMountainLions: Some think Sketch's whole storyline in Season 2 was this, since it had little to do with the overall story arc of the season and she often seemed to just disappear in and out of most episodes (mostly as Anwar's FriendsWithBenefits) with often fleeting relevance.
** JJ's romancing of single mom Lara had some accusations of this, mainly again in how little it had to do with the rest of the group's overall arc of the season and the fact that she seemed to disappear completely from the show after the episode, with only JJ breifly babysitting her child in the series finale providing the only indication that she even still existed at all.
28th Jul '17 6:31:22 PM rightyo
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* FirstInstallmentWins: Perhaps inevitably, the cancelled-after-one-season Skins US remake was doomed from the start, what with an already incredibly vocal {{Hatedom}} from both the UK version's homegrown and burgeoning international cult audience (in a time when many of the original episodes around the world were just a short download/you-tube search away), the awkward mingling of new storylines with near-replica episodes of the original (which resulted in some severe RelationshipWritingFumble s and character inconsistenticies) plus the extreme backlash from the US MoralGuardians that went so far as to deem it borderline Child Porn (which perhaps was what led to several advertisers abandoning the show).

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* FirstInstallmentWins: Perhaps inevitably, the cancelled-after-one-season Skins US remake was doomed from the start, what with an already incredibly vocal {{Hatedom}} from both the UK version's homegrown and burgeoning international cult audience (in a time when many of the original episodes around the world were just a short download/you-tube search away), the awkward mingling of new storylines with near-replica episodes of the original (which resulted in some severe RelationshipWritingFumble s and character inconsistenticies) inconsistencies) plus the extreme backlash from the US MoralGuardians that went so far as to deem it borderline Child Porn (which perhaps was what led to several advertisers abandoning the show).



** Series 3 initially [[BrokenBase (and for a number, still has)]] divided fans very sharply, for those who were upset at the complete re-casting of the show's cast to the show's more frequent use of broad CringeComedy and over-the-top story threads (the gangster sub-plot imediatelly comes to mind) that felt like a rather extreme MoodWhiplash to it's more grounded moments, plus some were [[SpotlightStealingSquad put off by Cook boorishly grabbing most of the attention even in episodes that were supposed to focus on other characters. And some just thought the much more gussied-up, conventionally beautiful cast and prominent focus of the nice-guy/bad-boy/mysterious-beauty love triangle (Freddie/Effy/Cook) was making it too akin to an American style high school soap.

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** Series 3 initially [[BrokenBase (and for a number, still has)]] divided fans very sharply, for those who were upset at the complete re-casting of the show's cast to the show's more frequent use of broad CringeComedy and rather silly over-the-top story threads sublots (the gangster sub-plot one with gangsters imediatelly comes to mind) that felt like a rather extreme MoodWhiplash to it's more grounded moments, plus some were [[SpotlightStealingSquad put off by Cook boorishly grabbing most of the attention even in episodes that were supposed to focus on other characters.characters]]. And some just thought the much more gussied-up, conventionally beautiful cast and prominent focus of the nice-guy/bad-boy/mysterious-beauty love triangle (Freddie/Effy/Cook) was making it too akin to an American style high school soap.


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* TakeThatScrappy: Season 3, episode 8 got a major one where Effy and Katie meet alone in the woods and Katie, who was still clearly steaming about the apparent (off-camera) advances made by Effy towards Freddie starts out trying to excarbate Effy's already bad shroom trip by lying about bug's all over her arms, then proceeding to verbally taunt her which leads to some aggressive but hardly overpowering physical slapping... and for defense Effy [[spoiler: [[DisproportionateRetribution bashes her head in with a rock]]... and ends up leaving her in the woods only belatedly trying to call an ambulance with no indication if she's even still alive (which brings up the major WhatHappenedToTheMouse question in why the rest of the group was so non-chalant that their friend has all of a sudden gone missing and all end up leaving the campsite anyway). It became rather apparent how low the fandom's opinion was of Katie that many instantly rose to defend Effy over her with some even saying that the near-manslaughter was completely justified as self-defense.]]
27th Jul '17 9:14:42 PM rightyo
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* FirstInstallmentWins: Perhaps inevitably, the cancelled-after-one-season Skins US remake was doomed from the start, what with an already incredibly vocal {{Hatedom}} from both the UK version's homegrown and burgeoning international cult audience (in a time when many of the original episodes around the world were just a short download/you-tube search away), the awkward mingling of new storylines with near-replica episodes of the original (which resulted in some severe RelationshipWritingFumble s and character inconsistenticies) plus the extreme backlash from the US MoralGuardians that went so far as to deem it borderline Child Porn (which perhaps was what led to several advertisers abandoning the show).
** For some of the fandom who thinks the First Generation was always the "true Skins generation" and found the second/third group of characters to be somewhat inferior.



** While Effy is undeniably stunning, we were supposed to be under the impression that Pandora is just the Plain-Jane sidekick, despite being played by the lovely Lisa Blackwell. She's given funny haircuts, less makeup and little-girl clothes that are supposed to indicate an unattractive HollywoodNerd type.

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** While Effy is undeniably stunning, we were supposed to be under the impression that Pandora is just the While, indeed, most human beings would look like a Plain-Jane sidekick, sidekick standing next to Effy, it becomes more than a bit extreme to see men's dismissive-to-nearly-disgusted reaction to Pandora, despite being played by the lovely quite attractive Lisa Blackwell. She's Blackwell- she largely seems to be given funny haircuts, less makeup and little-girl clothes that are supposed to indicate an unattractive HollywoodNerd type.



** Series 3 divided fans sharply, for those who were upset at the complete re-casting to those disliking some sharp turns into broad humor and farcial plot-lines that mixed uneasily with the more serious, angsty plot lines.

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** Series 3 initially [[BrokenBase (and for a number, still has)]] divided fans very sharply, for those who were upset at the complete re-casting of the show's cast to those disliking some sharp turns into the show's more frequent use of broad humor CringeComedy and farcial plot-lines over-the-top story threads (the gangster sub-plot imediatelly comes to mind) that mixed uneasily with the felt like a rather extreme MoodWhiplash to it's more serious, angsty plot lines. grounded moments, plus some were [[SpotlightStealingSquad put off by Cook boorishly grabbing most of the attention even in episodes that were supposed to focus on other characters. And some just thought the much more gussied-up, conventionally beautiful cast and prominent focus of the nice-guy/bad-boy/mysterious-beauty love triangle (Freddie/Effy/Cook) was making it too akin to an American style high school soap.


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** Chris and Jal were also near-universally adored by the fanbase when they became an OfficialCouple in S2, though never quite equaled the more vocal response of passionate Sid/Cassie shippers.
10th Jun '17 11:17:39 AM nombretomado
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** YMMV, but Jal's S1 episode seems to be a lot more enjoyable for classical music fans and/or former band geeks than for those who aren't into music. Classical fans will also recognize the two pieces she performs in the episode - the opening solo from Gershwin's ''Rhapsody in Blue'' and [[Creator/WolfgangAmadeusMozart Mozart's]] Clarinet Concerto - as two staples of the clarinet repertoire. In fact, they're popular requirements as an orchestral excerpt and a concerto (respectively) for university auditions, which Jal will be up for in a year. ShownTheirWork, indeed.

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** YMMV, but Jal's S1 episode seems to be a lot more enjoyable for classical music fans and/or former band geeks than for those who aren't into music. Classical fans will also recognize the two pieces she performs in the episode - the opening solo from Gershwin's ''Rhapsody in Blue'' and [[Creator/WolfgangAmadeusMozart [[Music/WolfgangAmadeusMozart Mozart's]] Clarinet Concerto - as two staples of the clarinet repertoire. In fact, they're popular requirements as an orchestral excerpt and a concerto (respectively) for university auditions, which Jal will be up for in a year. ShownTheirWork, indeed.
26th May '17 1:08:21 AM Erda
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** DanielKaluuya after various roles in other works, but especially his StarMakingRole in ''GetOut''.

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** DanielKaluuya Creator/DanielKaluuya after various roles in other works, but especially his ''BlackMirror'' episode or his StarMakingRole in ''GetOut''.
26th May '17 1:07:30 AM Erda
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** DanielKaluuya after various roles in other works, but especially his StarMakingRole in ''GetOut''.
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